Why should Florida and Michigan avoid any penalty for violating rules that 48 other states abided by?

Obama's as bad as Bush if not worse.

Clinton is damn right to stay put, and be the lady in waiting because I cannot see anyway Obama will win the general with this.  I seriously can't.

Still, this does not come as a suprise because he has a  tendency to avoid controversy and he also avoids the Obama press people who follow him around

thanks to the Kool Aid he is getting away with all that like no other

Has anyone ever asked him WHY he campaigned in Florida (that he held a press conference which he shrugged off in manner of cute candidate) since he signed the pledge?

Bet not and Obama relies on the bias media to help him in the Fl and Mi matter. Just like they didn't touch Wright for over a year.

btw. when he changed the subject to the voter's concern re gas, health etc. he was repeating the talking point for the day. I heard exactly the same thing from a couple Obama-supporting pundits on TV last night. Can't remember who it was anymore except they were two of the regular Obama fans and they made a big deal out of it and, of course, ridiculed Hillary for bothering everybody with that annoying MI and Florida subject. They had a good laugh about it all.

How often have we heard from the pundits on TV and  in paper that it was just a beauty contest? Olbermann couldn't stop ridiculing Hillary for holding a victory speech after Florida.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24774154

If one side is seen as willing to budge from its position to go "meet them more than halfway"(as Axelrod puts it), the RBC is more likely to lean towards their proposal than towards the other's "no compromises--give us everything we want" position.  

Puerto Rico really now the wild card.  How many votes she can net there determines the strength of the pop vote arguemnt.

>270,000 = Hillary wins pop vote by any metric.
>220,000 = Hillary wins pop vote if you ignore MI but include IA,NV,ME estimates and WA primary
>180,000 = Hilary wins pop vote if you give MI's uncommited to Obama and count all four caucus estimates
>130,000 = Hillary wins pop vote if you give MI's uncommitted to Obama, count IA,NV,ME estimates and WA primary.
Below 130,000, Hillary begins to either require ignoring the caucus estimates, or not assigning uncommited MI votes to Obama.

This FL & MI mess is a great opportunity to tackle all three of the above problems.  If we re-vote by mail in MI & FL, we automatically bring both states back into compliance with DNC rules on timing of elections.  This undermines any future Republican attempts to disrupt the Dem nomination process by moving up the primary dates.  It also establishes a new direction to defeat election fraud in America.  Finally, it would creates a route for Hillary to establish that she really is more electable without giving Obamabots the chance to say she manipulated the party.  She'll actually have the votes in hand from those states in a direct head to head contest with just the two of them on the ballot.

 and pay for the cost of a mail-in election that utilizes equipment we already have based on Oregon's successful 100% mail-in process that undermines electronic fraud by establishing an audit trail even in states that used HAVA to undermine that concept.  We've already got the infrastructure and policies in place, based on Oregon's successful 100% mail-in model.  We've got the voter rolls in both MI and FL, and enough money to accomplish it before the convention since it's much cheaper to do a mail-in than try to repeat the vote through the two states' election process.

"But of course the rules can not require this for to take their names off the Florida ballot they have to drop out of the race entirely under Florida law. So much for that "rule." More . . ."

It's a reasonable compromise, and like I've been saying all along, it should have been the penalty from the beginning, instead of leaving things in limbo this whole time. It would have far better for everyone to know from the beginning that the delegates would get cut in half in comparison to spending 5 months worrying about whether or not the votes would count.

Screw it, that is too much work.  While we are at it, lets just throw out all of the caucus states.  

Sound good?

Or how about this, lets just go back to the opinion polls from Fall of last year and go off of those.  All of the voting has obviously been scewed because of what Barack Hussein Obama did to those poor folks in Michigan and Florida.

THE RULES AT THE TIME SAID MI AND FL DO NOT COUNT.  Hillary agreed to the rules and said so several times...before she started losing.