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Videotape Shows Police Beating Suspects in Philadelphia

Capturing brutal police misconduct on tape isn't always enough to convince a jury to convict the officers of a crime. It isn't surprising that juries often give cops a pass when they abuse arrestees, despite seemingly obvious visual evidence of their guilt. Sometimes the district attorney doesn't prosecute with vigor; sometimes the jury returns a verdict of "he had it coming." Juries bring democracy into the courtroom by reflecting the sense of the community, even when that sense is offensive to those who don't share the community's biases. That's how democracy works -- or doesn't, depending on your point of view.

In Philadelphia:

Fifteen Philadelphia police officers will be taken off the street as authorities investigate a video showing three suspects being kicked and beaten by city police.

Philadelphia officers have been "on edge" since one of their own was killed two days ago, according to Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey. A bit of the video is shown in this newscast. More information here.

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    Unbelievable (none / 0) (#1)
    by MaryGM on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:13:02 AM EST
    This is a truly sad development.  I live in Philly and Mayor Nutter has been doing some really smart, innovative things with the police department, insisting that everyone with a desk job spend some time on the streets as well.  This is going to cast a dark cloud over his efforts.

    The tape made the national news tonight.  Utterly horrific.  Mob mentality at its worst.

    why is it (none / 0) (#2)
    by Nasarius on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:10:16 AM EST
    That the people we entrust with power are so rarely held accountable when they abuse their power? It's true from your local cop all the way up to the President of the United States.

    We have this system eager to viciously prosecute poor people for drug offenses, but when police officers commit violent crimes...nothing. Are judges and police too closely connected, like journalists and Washington? Is it just that most people are inclined to trust the police? I feel like we need some kind of separate, watching-the-watchers apparatus.

    Or maybe we should simply take the suggestion of Jello Biafra, and have the power to vote for cops like we vote for judges.

    Ya gotta know your rights nasarius..... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:28:50 AM EST
    This is a public service announcement
    With guitar
    Know your rights

    Number 1
    You have the right not to be killed
    Murder is a crime!
    Unless it was done by a
    Policeman or aristocrat

    - The Clash


    Know your rights


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    Guns (none / 0) (#3)
    by bernarda on Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:00:17 AM EST
    The police say that the suspects were involved in a shooting, but they didn't find a gun. So they can say that the fourth guy who is missing had it. We will have to wait until they find that guy.

    In any case, nothing justifies the police acting as judge and jury. I have sometimes been under stress at my job, but if I took a punch at some wanker at work, I would be fired.

    desk duty? (none / 0) (#5)
    by wendymae on Thu May 08, 2008 at 07:24:56 AM EST
    these criminals should be suspended without pay.  

    long ago i had a boyfriend who opined that cops and criminals were cut from the same cloth, they just played on different teams (how's that for an early morning mixed metaphor?).  this video goes a long way to prove that.  

    that they were "on edge" is given as an explanation for their behavior.  gimme a frickin' break.  these guys if they are indicted at all will get off with a trial before a judge just like sean bell's murderers.  the whole thing makes me want to vomit.

    and as for nutter's initiatives?  no thank you please!  stop and frisk will always be unconstitutional (funny that many progressives will give up civil rights for young black men pretty easily, even if they love barack!) and what is the point of going after people holding nickle bags of weed with the crime we have in philly?  it's a page right out of giuliani's playbook - it sucked for nyc and it sucks for philly.

    Cops are trained to subdue 'perps'. (none / 0) (#6)
    by tokin librul on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:23:03 AM EST
    You have to take the 'fight' out of 'em. That usually means beating the crap out of 'em.

    You will notice, however, that the term already implies a decision about the involvement of persons in alleged wrong-doing? "Perp" = perpetrator. The term is far from the far more neutral 'suspect,' which follows from the presumption if innocence. "Perp" contains the presumption of guilt. And if you're guilty, the cops feel they have carte blanche...

    Why is it (none / 0) (#7)
    by Nadai on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:30:05 AM EST
    that "on edge" never works as an excuse for criminals?  Somehow, I hold the cops to a higher standard.

    "on edge" is a crock. (none / 0) (#9)
    by AX10 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:12:22 AM EST
    The police except the risks when they take the job. There is no excuse for this criminal behavior.  But like all other government workers, they are never held accountable

    The police (none / 0) (#11)
    by Patrick on Thu May 08, 2008 at 02:35:06 PM EST
    accept the risk, yes, but there are also protections that come with it, and should.  

    From what I saw on the video their actions are impossible to explain away.  They were wrong, but I see a whole bunch of people condemning police as an institution, instead of realizing that in every profession there is a small percentage that abuse their position.  

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    Sweeping it under the rug (none / 0) (#12)
    by jondee on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:15:11 AM EST
    time and time again when it's blatant is where the condemnation of the institution comes from; even if it is a reckless overgeneralization.

    I give you the recent corruption case involving the Toronto detectives unit as a prime example.

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    Wow. (none / 0) (#10)
    by lilburro on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:54:17 AM EST
    This type of activity in Philly has probably been underreported.  But I'm sad that the place I called home has now succumbed to this violence.  What is going on in Philly?