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Hillary: Simply the Best, It's Not Over

Tina Turner Above, Lenny Kravitz below

Hillary asked for you thoughts as to what she should do? Let's hear them, I'll send them to her campaign.

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    We go to Denver!!!! (5.00 / 12) (#1)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:22 PM EST
    yohooooooooo!!!

    Way to go.. GO HILLARY!!!

    She wants 18million people to be heard.. (5.00 / 11) (#4)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:26 PM EST
    Thankyou Hillary

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    I think she was sending a message... (5.00 / 3) (#88)
    by p lukasiak on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:12:36 PM EST
    she also talked about "counting every vote".  

    So she's not saying "I want Universal Health Care" or "make me vice president"..... she's saying "Don't EVER try to put me in my place.  YOU are going to recognize the will of the voters of Florida and Michigan, and until you do, this party will NOT be united.

    As others have noted, Saturday gave Clinton the perfect opening to continue her campaign ON PRINCIPLE.  

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    Yes it did. (none / 0) (#131)
    by alexei on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:30:03 AM EST
    And that was my message to her - fight that ruling.   We cannot allow the Michigan vote stealing to stand as a precedent.  Both states must also have all their delegates count per the election results.  No delegates to Obama from Michigan, reinstate the four delegates to Clinton and have the Uncommitted slate where Clinton and Obama can work to get their support.

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    They took her moment away and she promptly (5.00 / 18) (#2)
    by Teresa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:46 PM EST
    took it back. Good for her. Whatever you decide Hillary, that you for tonight.

    Boy is she good!! I don't know why obama (5.00 / 13) (#30)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:24:58 PM EST
    and his camp don't give up trying to one-up her; it is impossible.  While they are busy thinking they are smart, she is busy BEING smart.

    What I would like to see from Hillary is for her to stay in a holding pattern.  Let the GOP rough obama up, because you know they will; and continue on to the convention where we can only hope sanity prevails and the SD's do what is right for America and the party which has been seriously let down by the likes of Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Brazile, etc.

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    AND (5.00 / 7) (#51)
    by dell on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:36:27 PM EST
    ...she should start interviewing Vice Presidential prospects.

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    Yes! (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by tek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:37:21 PM EST
    Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy & Daschle (5.00 / 7) (#89)
    by angie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:13:04 PM EST
    not a one of them could "deliver" their home states to Obama -- yep, Hillary won NV, CA, MA & SD. Next stop Denver and then the White House.

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    Didn't even think about that, (5.00 / 2) (#100)
    by zfran on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:56 PM EST
    what a great observation!!!

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    Gotta (none / 0) (#112)
    by tek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:06:17 PM EST
    love it.  

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    Like the crowd said tonight... (5.00 / 8) (#3)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:18 PM EST
    ...and I and many others have written to the campaign tonight:

    "Denver"

    Please, PLEASE... (5.00 / 7) (#5)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:23 PM EST
    ...write and tell the campaign you support them and want them to continue tonight (and donate if you can).

    Now is a crucial time.

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    Already done, thanks for the reminder! (5.00 / 5) (#86)
    by fem voter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:09:35 PM EST
    I agree with the others that say "Den-ver! Den-ver!" and that she should be looking into who'd she want as her VP.

    She's the best!

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    Just Did Both (none / 0) (#135)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:06:56 AM EST
    Support to carry on the fight and $upport to carry on the fight.

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    Done & I sent $ too (5.00 / 5) (#93)
    by angie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:04 PM EST
    NO ONE tells me to sit down and shut up.

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    Classy speech (5.00 / 9) (#6)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:24 PM EST
    Reminds me of this from another great Democrat:

    For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.


    I wouldn't use that quote... (none / 0) (#17)
    by jtaylorr on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:20:02 PM EST
    Apparently the dream did die, because Ted went on to give Carter almost no support during the general.

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    plus he has been AWFUL during this race (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by nulee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:29 PM EST
    vis a vis Clinton

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    He sure has (5.00 / 6) (#96)
    by fem voter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:24 PM EST
    But kudos to Robert Kennedy, Jr!

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:35:27 PM EST
    There are those who will always expect the worst from Hillary.  I can't do anything about them.

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    A great Democrat who conceded but (none / 0) (#129)
    by andrys on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:00:21 AM EST
    not until the convention.  Kennedy went to that convention 750 delegates behind a sitting Democratic president he challenged.  And conceded there.  And not before.

    There's the rub.  They've treated Hillary as non-valid ever since before the string of victories that started in Ohio because they knew she was going to win those.  NO ONE guessed she would win subsequent ones by landslides, once Obama had been declared the nominee by King Russert.

    And the media continue to cheapshot her as showing "deranged narcissism" in her speech tonight (Jeffrey Toobin on CNN and reported for the record by Huffpo).

    They never did see her as a valid candidate to be respected as one - with every day a commenter or surrogate saying 'WHY is SHE still running?' back in early March.  That has caused no small disgust here and they will have to fix that.  I see few signs of it right now.  In watching his supporters on cable news I see only poor losers, who even missed that she had congratulated in the opening of her speech.  They complained she hadn't because apparently the missed the beginning.

      They keep talking of how he might be degraded to accept her in VP slot, but they talk about him as if he were some child who would not be capable of changing that dynamic and LEADING his followers to 'understand' what might be needed to actually BE in the White House.

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    I think she wants him to pick up her (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Esme on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:33 PM EST
    UHP plan. That's definitely what it sounded like to me.

    I mean UHC. Oops. (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Esme on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:12:40 PM EST
    For Hillary (5.00 / 2) (#114)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:09:36 PM EST
    My suggestions:
      Get some well-deserved rest & keep 'em guessing & anxious for your support
      Insist that Obama assist in repairing discord within the party by making unqualified public statements to the effect that:
        (i)  White supporters of your campaign are not racist because they voted for you over him -- to counter the incendiary, factually incorrect and unsubstantiated garbage mouthed by the likes of Richard Cohen this a.m. on MSNBC and others; no matter what you do, there will be no Fall victory unless Obama counters these hateful theories that only remind voters of his "bitter" comments.
        (ii)  Bill Clinton was both an excellent President and an irreplaceable asset to you on the campaign trail, to wit the fact that you won tough primaries in states such as PA, TX, KY, WVA and So. DAK where Bill campaigned tirelessly; & the Vanity Fair piece was hateful and inappropriate.
        (iii)  Obama, if President, will work for truly universal healthcare; and
        (iv)  To eliminate in the future the type of problems we had with FL & MI, Obama will insist that the DNC set up a commission made up of Hillary supporters and long-time party regulars that will (a) eliminate caucuses and (b) deal with calendar problems, and grant as unambiguous safe harbor to states that violate the primary calendar because of dates set by Republican-controlled state legislatures.  All the verbiage in the delegate selection rules about "good faith" actions by the state party to change the primary dates so set are wishful thinking, as is the requirement in those rules that such good faith actions be established by the state party by clear & convincing evidence.  The DNC should not continue to allow the Republicans to provoke discord among its members.  
      Then, suspend your campaign to keep the door open....
    Just my wish list....

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    The days of sighs and screams are done. (none / 0) (#143)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:55:35 AM EST
    Last night she wielded us 18 million like a club. She displayed us real Democrats - our strength. She learned from Obama in this campaign how to utilize the power of the people. And how we use our power for the Common Good.

    Her speech revealed a new approach: We 18 million want UHC and her clean energy policy etc, etc, etc. We are the pragmatic fine print policy side of the Party.

    But, more importantly:
    Our side of the Democratic Party has now proved that we simply can't be pushed around any more by the media. Call us low info racists, even call our candidate an assassin:

    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING STOPS US.

    Remember when Americans were deterred from voting by such measly criticisms as sighs, earthtones and screams...?

    Those days are done.

    We have shown the fascist ruling class running this country that nothing can deter us.

    As Majority Leader, unlike Harry Reid, she has 18 million lobbyists nationwide in the rolodex to fight for every vote till we change this nation.

    Stick together 18 million!

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    Tina Turner, definitely (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by DaveOinSF on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:12:36 PM EST
    Not so sure about Lenny Kravitz

    I liked the Tom Petty, too (none / 0) (#10)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:14:38 PM EST
    "I Won't Back Down," which followed Turner's "Simply the Best."

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    done that one too many times (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:49 PM EST
    I'll keep looking for a better one.

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    I like Lenny Kravitz (none / 0) (#18)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:10 PM EST
    I was actually thinking of the songs she used after her speech, my mind just drifted and I lost sight of the videos you posted, Jeralyn.

    Just ignore me.

    ;)

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    Doobie Brothers (none / 0) (#42)
    by standingup on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:31:27 PM EST
    and "Takin' It to The Streets"  

    Okay, maybe not ;-)

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    river deep mountain high by Tina Turner (none / 0) (#145)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:05 AM EST
    overcoming obstacles...

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    Fantastic Speech, Carvel comments (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by DandyTIger on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:30 PM EST
    were great on CNN. He basically said, look, she was never going to end this tonight. Everyone knew this. If she ended it cold, then her 18M voters would not go for Obama. She has to bring them along. She has to move this thing slowly and carefully. Quite brilliant, and I agree with Carvel on that.

    Like many of us here, we can't just stop this good ship Hillary on a dime. We have to slowly change corse and turn, if we can at all. Very astute.

    So, no chance for her then? (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Davidson on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:03 PM EST
    From his comments it seems as if he concludes there's no chance for her, even if Obama continues to implode over the summer.

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    there's always a chance (5.00 / 0) (#72)
    by DandyTIger on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:46:17 PM EST
    regardless of what state the campaign is put in, the candidates are still there, and the votes aren't official until August. No matter what anyone says. So if something happens over the summer, all delegates (and not just SD's) can vote any way they want.

    Let's see what Hillary says in the next few days.

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    Clausewitz (5.00 / 2) (#85)
    by Salo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:07:03 PM EST
    No result is final.

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    Things can change. (none / 0) (#110)
    by halstoon on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:01:51 PM EST
    As in when it went from Clinton being the assumptive nominee to Obama being the presumptive nominee.

    If it's Obama/Slimtonone, it has to be Clinton/Nochance.

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    You (none / 0) (#158)
    by kenoshaMarge on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:54:40 AM EST
    really just can't help being offensive, can you?

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    Carville is a pro (5.00 / 1) (#124)
    by PamFl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:33:41 PM EST
    His good old boy personality has led people to underestimate him in the past. He isn't conceding anything. Keeping the commentary neutral, vague, and party centered is strategic.
    He was the one who originally came up with the three themes (for Bill Clinton) we heard over the last year:

    Change vs more of the same
    It's the economy stupid
    Don't forget health care

    BTW-he is married to Mary Matalin, a republican pundit and 1992 re-election campaign advisor to Bush, Sr.

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    Stand Your Ground! (5.00 / 7) (#13)
    by No Blood for Hubris on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:16:56 PM EST
    We won't back down!

    She knows her voters (5.00 / 11) (#14)
    by standingup on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:18:52 PM EST
    better than anyone and I think it is great to see her stand up for them.  Carville made some great points on CNN and also had a good laugh at the hysteria of the other correspondents who couldn't believe that she did not concede tonight.  Carville essentially said that she never said she was conceding tonight, tonight was not the right time for her or her supporters, she will take the time to see that the party is brought together so that her voters are excited when November rolls around.  

    I don't think I have ever heard supposed journalists like Gloria Borger and Suzanne Malveaux, make such an open display of contempt.  They fail in the standard of journalistic ethics and integrity.

    The media are a collective joke (5.00 / 6) (#26)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:23:17 PM EST
    ...at least those members of the CNN & MSNBC news divisions not named Lou Dobbs and a few others.

    They're covering this thing like it's a Homecoming contest and not for the Presidency. It has really been insulting, IMO.

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    I want her on the ticket (5.00 / 4) (#15)
    by waldenpond on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:19:31 PM EST
    Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton... I nearly always hold my nose to vote, but not this time.  I think Clinton has a lot to contribute.  No one is limited by a job title nor a job description and I think Clinton can do great things for this country.

    me too (none / 0) (#50)
    by Lil on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:35:45 PM EST
    Sent her both a message and money, (5.00 / 9) (#16)
    by Rhouse on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:19:51 PM EST
    I really want her to go to Denver, if for no other reason than our voices need to be heard, to our concerns need to be addressed.

    Yes, (5.00 / 3) (#66)
    by A little night musing on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:44:01 PM EST
    All the way to Denver! (as I just finished writing on her website)

    I still hold onto hope she'll be the nominee, but if not, going all the way still seems to me to be the only thing that will force Obama to have to deal with all of us and our concerns and to take them seriously.

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    night musing - that was my song today... (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by mogal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:15:12 PM EST
    All the Way

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    Take it to DENVER! (5.00 / 5) (#19)
    by vicsan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:20 PM EST
    Don't let them steal this from you!

    Dream Ticket only.... (5.00 / 6) (#20)
    by Aqua Blue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:33 PM EST
    Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton.   No other ticket is appropriate or acceptable.  

    Dream Ticket or nothing...for my vote.
    Thank you, Hillary.   You have broken another glass ceiling.  

    Don't back down.

    Get on the ticket, that's what I want (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:44 PM EST
    that's what we need.

    She should stay in and fight, fight, fight! (5.00 / 9) (#22)
    by nulee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:57 PM EST
    We will see that she gets to the WH!

    The only way I will vote for Obama (5.00 / 6) (#23)
    by otherlisa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:58 PM EST
    at this point, is if Hillary is on the ticket.

    If he is the nominee, and he doesn't make that offer in all sincerity, then I'm not voting for him.

    Hillary played this exactly right tonight. She should just hang in there, take her time, wait to make her decision and go to Denver.

    I'm not sure... (5.00 / 17) (#24)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:22:08 PM EST
    ... but one thing is I know she won't let other people push her out.

    Much to my shame, I gave up prior to Ohio and Texas, only to be pulled back in when she won.

    If there's one thing that Democrats do way too much of, it's concede. We concede on everything--budgets, war funding, judicial nominees, etc. We're so afraid of what other people might think or do.

    Now we have a candidate who refuses to concede, who went on four months after everyone told her to quit, and won enough primaries and votes to push her over the top in the popular vote. And of course, being Democrats, everyone wants her to give up.

    Hillary Clinton has earned the right to do whatever she wants. I know she won't let the party be hurt, so I trust her decision. She's shown more resolve and spine these few months than the whole party has shown for years.

    Both the MSM and the Dem elites (5.00 / 14) (#25)
    by Serene1 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:22:45 PM EST
    have been using this crutch of 'good for the party hence Hillary should bow out' talk to bash Hillary, discredit her win, her supporters, bash Bill etc. They were very sure she couldn't retaliate because they were after all doing it for a very noble intention "the Party".

    God! how I loathe these hypocrites!

    on to denver! (5.00 / 12) (#27)
    by londonamerican on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:23:35 PM EST
    this election is too important, and we have too good a candidate, to throw it away. hillary was amazing tonight - i've never heard her give a better speech. she was precise, cool, beautiful, relaxed - and determined to do the right thing for the american people.

    this race can't be decided by some news desk: the delegates must cast their votes and then we will have a a nominee, unless one or the other of the candidates concedes.  

    this is the very first time in my life that i have been proud to back a candidate. i am proud that my candidate is a fighter for what she believes in and that she is tough as nails. she has grown incredibly throughout this campaign and it has been wonderful to see and be a part of it. she should not accept anything else than leading the ticket to victory in the fall.

    i hope she can continue to make us proud to be democrats after years of cowardly leadership.

    please stay in the race - we need to win in november!

    Denver all the way, baby! n/t (5.00 / 7) (#28)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:23:39 PM EST


    Bravo Hillary! (5.00 / 9) (#29)
    by Esme on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:23:51 PM EST
    You've done all of us so proud! Whatever you decide to do, I'm in it with you till the end!

    What she should do - (5.00 / 9) (#31)
    by liminal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:25:22 PM EST
    -if the SDs don't wise up overnight (which looks deeply unlikely) and nominate her for president is:

    1. Ensure that the debacle that is the RBC decision regarding Michigan particularly is overturned.  It was a bad precedent, and it sets a terrible example for the party.

    2. Demand that the party include a truly universal health care plan in the platform and not Obama's watered down soft shoe of a nod in that direction (and make sure Obama fires Jim Cooper!  How about that!)

    3. And I want her on the ticket, for real, no matter what. Once I thought that he could win the presidency without her, but that she couldn't win without him.  Now I think it's the other way round.  


    I want her where she has the most power: (none / 0) (#147)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:09:35 AM EST
    because if she has that, she will get us the change we need.

    So I want her to now find out:
    Is there any chance of Supers seeing the wisdom of the Clinton-Obama ticket?
    If not would Majority Leader wield more power than VP?

    I am now open to her finding out where she gets the most power to do what we want.

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    Stay - (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Redshoes on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:25:49 PM EST
    Another good anthem for the road ahead.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFnA-lbDsJ8


    She should suspend the campaign, but not concede (5.00 / 11) (#33)
    by dk on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:26:18 PM EST
    she beat him in the popular vote, so it seems rational that she keep herself open as an option for the superdelegates in case things really go south for Obama between now and August.  Frankly, I think that is a gift she could give to the party.

    Take it to Denver- (5.00 / 4) (#34)
    by BarnBabe on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:27:18 PM EST
    And if offered VP as a gesture, take it. I didn't think so before, but BTD is right at this point. The only way to win. Because without Hillary, there is no Obama in November. I don't want her to go away. Denver Denver Denver.

    She's not going anywhere, VP or not. (5.00 / 5) (#43)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:31:46 PM EST
    I would rather have her abilities in the Senate than sucked down the rabbit hole of an Obama campaign.  And if he doesn't win, she'd just sweep 2012 right out of McCain's hand.

    She can do him just as much good campaigning for him as on the ticket, imho.

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    I was thinking for when he quits (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by BarnBabe on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:10:47 PM EST
    when he finds out how much work it is and what mean people are going to call you if you are not perfect. Hillary already knows those names. Ha.

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    exactly (none / 0) (#159)
    by kenoshaMarge on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:00:47 PM EST
    Stay in the Senate where she can do more. VP, unless one with power ala Cheney is a dead end street.

    And you know and I know and we all know that there is no way in he11 that Obamacrats will ever give her any power. To eliminate her and Bill has been the point of this entire primary.

    Senator Clinton as VP does not get my vote. It's a pander to Clinton supporters so that we support the party. And this party is not worth supporting IMHO. Rewarding bad behavior is not the way to change it.

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    Hillary on the ticket! (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Miss Led on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:19 PM EST
    One way or another.

    Love the vids, BTW.

    Can CNN (5.00 / 7) (#37)
    by Mrwirez on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:25 PM EST
    get any more Obamabots on the stage? Even the repugnicans say Hillary is defiant. What is so defiant? That super delgates pushed him through the gate BEFORE she won again in South Dakota? South Dakota will be RED in November anyway, and so will Montana. I hate Anderson "Vanderbilt" Cooper, the little weasel. David Gergen, Donna Brazile, [ jug head]-Jamal, Roland Martin....PLEASE... So much for the Clinton News Network... yuck. Now I am considering changing from Independent to Repu... no I can't.

    Everywhere Obama beat Hillary is McCain country. Except, IL, WA, OR. That is IT

    We are the real Democrats (none / 0) (#148)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:12:26 AM EST
    and we are stronger than the hype and shame contingent. We keep on voting even when we are called names. We will take back the Party.

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    All the Way! (5.00 / 7) (#39)
    by Cheryl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:35 PM EST
    Take it to Denver!
    It ain't over 'til it's over!
    (And that will be when you win!)

    This was my song today... (none / 0) (#103)
    by mogal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:24:24 PM EST
    All the Way,  makes me feel very hopeful for the future of our country. Wasn't she great?

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    Denver, baby (5.00 / 9) (#41)
    by kmblue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:56 PM EST
    Keep fighting for us!

    I did both, though with smaller funds. (5.00 / 4) (#44)
    by andrys on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:32:00 PM EST
    Unifier Obama (and I congratulated personal friends who are Obama supporters on the milestone) will need to change the mindsets of the main dolts like Olbermann whose comment immediately after her speech was that she must have chosen the location to prevent supporter cell phones from receiving the momentous information 54 minutes before that Obama had won (the required number of commitments for) the nomination (and also the nomination if they hold to their commitments through 2 months).

      Olbermann's snarkiness was exactly what Obama says he's not about.  We'll see.  I changed the channel to get some focused news instead of Olbermann's personal rage.

      Obama did well when talking about Clinton right now but I would be happier if, when his supporters boo'd Clinton's name, a few times, he had stopped and said, "No, I don't want any of that." but he didn't.  Let's hope he lives up to leading his supporters in not disrespecting her just because she challenged him and will continue to.

      She started her speech with congratulations to Obama for his 'win' ... but that wasn't enough for people at CNN, who felt it awful she would take stock when commitments are not the same as actual votes in August and when she has received more primary votes than anyone else in history, including our presumptive nominee.

      Let's hope people can respect both candidates, and that includes the media and supporters on both sides, no matter how we might vote.  Much work is needed, as has been said.

      I thought Hillary's speech was really excellent and VERY well delivered.

    Hillary, This Is What I Want (5.00 / 14) (#45)
    by Athena on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:32:07 PM EST
    Hillary, do not quit or bow out.

    You have just won more votes than any Presidential nominee in American history.

    Claim your historic accomplishment and go proudly to Denver with your head held high.

    Please allow us to celebrate Women's Equality Day on August 26 this year when the first female Presidential contender with overwhelming support enters Denver as a contender.

    WE are not going anywhere.  See you in Denver.

    Another voice for Denver (5.00 / 5) (#46)
    by annabelly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:32:55 PM EST
    Because I will never vote for Obama unless she is on the ticket too. I've voted straight Democratic in every election for twenty years, but not his time, not unless she's on the ticket. That means Dems will lose my vote not only for Obama, but for every down-ticket race in my state.

    go on the Denver and convince the SD's that (5.00 / 8) (#47)
    by athyrio on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:34:46 PM EST
    you must be the choice for our president in '08...being a VP is a bad idea because you can do more when you are a senator and fight for UHC...

    I want her to: (5.00 / 15) (#48)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:35:13 PM EST
    1. stay in as long as she can or wants to
    2. negotiate for everything she holds dear
    3. speak out against the media bias and the sexism


    And I'll add win in Nov! ;) N/T (5.00 / 5) (#54)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:37:29 PM EST
    I just want to add (5.00 / 5) (#52)
    by annabelly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:37:17 PM EST
    That I will not be cowed by any specter of Roe v Wade, or any other Democratic boogey man. My vote is mine to do with as I please, and I will not support anyone who provoked and profited from Clinton Derangement Syndrome, unless they correct that mistake and give her the respect she is due by making her the VP candidate.

    Sen. Majority Leader (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Jackson Hunter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:37:44 PM EST
    While I wouldn't mind if she was on the ticket, her better position would be as Sen. Majority Leader, as Obama will lose.  Wes Clark, who has a ton of Foreign Policy experience, would be a better choice and obviously quite close to Hilary in political beliefs.  (I never got a chance to agree with you on the other thread BTD, you are spot on.)

    But, BUT, she must be named Majority Leader before the election, because if I remember right, Reid wasn't going to try to hold that position again next year.  I know that means several jumps in seniority, she has proven herself as the most popular Democrat on the planet, so she has a pretty strong argument.

    Can Reid resign as ML in July, lets say, and the Dem. caucus (man I hate that word now-:)) can then vote her in as ML?  I don't see why not.  It probably goes against tradition, but so what.  Then she can go to Denver and unite the party and we'll have a female Speaker, a female Majority Leader, and an African American President.

    THAT would be a true legacy for this party, IMHO of course.

    Jackson

    Harry Reid (none / 0) (#65)
    by tek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:43:47 PM EST
    already said she can't be Senate Majority Leader.

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    So... (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Jackson Hunter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:45:10 PM EST
    I don't care.  If he wants unity, he'll just have to shut up and accept reality.  I'm sure that sounds familiar to all of us, eh?  LOL

    Jackson

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    got a link? (none / 0) (#150)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:18:51 AM EST
    if so then DENVER DENVER DENVER

    (because only as president can she get done what needs to be done)
    I just don't believe that Obama would select her as vp, or if forced to, would give her any power. But if he did and would, that would be ok with me, and it improves his chance at getting the WH.

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    Hillary's Speech (5.00 / 5) (#56)
    by samurai9 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:39:51 PM EST
    They are all criticizing her for her speech, they are saying it is defiant and by asking her supporters to go to her website and send her an email, she is basically thinking Denver.  Why should she give up?  The stupid Democratic Party gave the nomination to Obama even though she got more popular votes! I want her to go to Denver and would like to see the remaining undecided superdelegates get a spine and support her!

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by tek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:40:45 PM EST
    she should take it to the convention and then if they refuse to do the right thing, go out on her own or campaign for McCain.  I do not want to see in the VP slot and I don't think she want that.  She was talking about being the President, not vice.

    she'd never do that (none / 0) (#151)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:21:57 AM EST
    she is the only Democrat in this race.

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    VP (5.00 / 4) (#58)
    by Lora on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:40:54 PM EST
    It's the only way Obama can win.

    The division is so deep that neither can win (5.00 / 5) (#68)
    by Joelarama on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:44:43 PM EST
    it without the other.

    I'd prefer Hillary at the top of the ticket.

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    Mile-high city! (5.00 / 7) (#59)
    by Raven15 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:41:08 PM EST
    Hillary supporters, please donate.

    If anyone can handle the balancing act of party unity and staying in the game, it's Hillary.

    If every one of us 18 million (none / 0) (#152)
    by dotcommodity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:23:20 AM EST
    gave her a buck, wouldn't she'd be clear of Axelrods attempt to buy her off?

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    Have a bit of a rest (5.00 / 7) (#60)
    by Molly Pitcher on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:41:52 PM EST
    and then, give 'em H*ll, Hillary!  Go it, girl!

    ANd on reflection (5.00 / 6) (#62)
    by tek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:42:22 PM EST
    after what the DNC did to her on the 31st, I can't imagine she would be treated respectfully in an Obama administration.  If these men would fight so hard to keep her out of the White House now, why would they put her in VP knowing that the next logical step would be the WH?  

    They might (none / 0) (#137)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:23:01 AM EST
    want to make her VP to get rid of her. I hope she doesn't fall for that.  

    It's still ridiculous that this woman of immense ability and intelligence would play second fiddle to someone so inferior.

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    Take it to the convention, Hillary. (5.00 / 6) (#63)
    by Joelarama on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:42:39 PM EST
    The only exit strategy that's worth perusing is a place on the ballot.

    I'd rather have her as the nominee, but VP nominee is good because there will not be Democrat in the White House come November if Hillary is not on the ticket.

    Always Remember (5.00 / 12) (#64)
    by CDN Ctzn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:43:06 PM EST
    Hillary was and still is the peoples choice! No amount of spin can change that!

    she's showed me to have grace (5.00 / 9) (#67)
    by thereyougo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:44:14 PM EST
    under tremendous pressure, her way, with calm and resolve, its how she's had successes for herself and husband.

    I never really paid attention to her, always thought she was nice, but our daughters should learn her way to success in a man's world.

    She won't quit,and I applaud and admire her.

    When she becomes the nominee in August, I will work to elect her, her army will grow.

    She will rise from the ashes like the Pheonix!!

    Wow, that was my ending line (5.00 / 9) (#69)
    by Andy08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:44:52 PM EST
    in my message to Hillary tonight (before I saw this post! )

    HILLARY, YOU ARE SIMPLY THE BEST !!

    People, WRITE .  She asked you to write to her:

      http://www.hillaryclinton.com/home/?splash=1


    She owes it to the country (5.00 / 8) (#71)
    by sancho on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:45:39 PM EST
    to continue through Denver. More people want to vote for her (and did vote for her) than any of the remaining candidates.

    She doesn't actually owe it to the country (5.00 / 2) (#121)
    by JavaCityPal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:17:37 PM EST
    but, if she decides to continue to convention, we owe it to her to give her 100% of our support. No more giving in to scenarios that say we bought the hype and false reporting of the media and the Obama campaign.

    He does not have this nomination sewn up. No one does, and no one can until convention.


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    What would Churchill have done? (5.00 / 3) (#73)
    by befuddled on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:48:46 PM EST
    She reminds me of him in determination. He would be saying never give up, never, never, never, and what do you mean, no cigars at the hotel?

    I trust that she knows more than we and has a better chance than Obama thinks.


    Denver Denver Denver! (5.00 / 10) (#74)
    by NWHiker on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:49:12 PM EST
    Take it Denver, Hillary!

    She's 100 times better than he is, she's probably the best Dem I can remember.(OK, fine, I'm 44, so I don't remember many but still!)

    My 7 year old son, on hearing that the DNC did on Saturday on NPR (as in not parent bias) said "Isn't that cheating?" He understands that they cheated to give him the nomination.

    Onwards! I'll make a donation and a comment later tonight when things aren't quite as slow.

    Denver!

    Wow. (none / 0) (#141)
    by BrandingIron on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:19:15 AM EST

    When a SEVEN year old can recognize cheating, you know it's pretty bad.

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    I wrote her asking her to stay (5.00 / 9) (#76)
    by cawaltz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:51:43 PM EST
    You can share the sentiment again though if you like Jeralyn. Tomorrow is payday and I'll give her some money. She's has earned my support.

    Went to her website and contributed all I could (5.00 / 7) (#78)
    by ap in avl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:53:18 PM EST
    after her speech.  I also asked her to please take this fight to Denver.  I told her that our country needs her now more than ever.  


    Fight Hillary (5.00 / 8) (#80)
    by Andy08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:58:27 PM EST
    fight it; you are the indisputable choice of "we the people".

    I am no-one to tell you what to do; but I ask you not to subordinate to an unqualified candidate.

    Keep your options open; there is no-one like you and you already have 18 million of us with you ALL THE WAY !!!

    Thank you Hillary !!  Thank you Madame President !!!

    Who else got an ActBlue appeal? (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by ap in avl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:59:01 PM EST
    As soon as I left Hillary's site with my comments and contribution I received not only a thank you from her but an email from ActBlue telling me that Obama had won the nomination and asking me to set up a website-based appeal for donors to his GE campaign.  

    I signed up and appealed for Hillary instead, substituting her name for his.  Don't know if this will get deleted here or not but this is my message if anyone is interested:

    http://www.actblue.com/page/amyparrishforhrc/recipient/101999

    I don't really want to cause any problems here.  Maybe I'm just reacting to the audacity of the assumption.

    Hey girl! Looks like you are close to me (5.00 / 3) (#107)
    by Boo Radly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:39:37 PM EST
    I live in Haywood - I went to that site - left them a message, told them Hillary Clinton supporters would not be donating to the "other" candidate. They are very aggressive aren't they?I am sure you have it under control.

    I hope you did not sign up with them under the impression Hillary would get the money. And I hope that is not your name in the link you left.
    I would remove it from this site if it is.

    Jeralyn thanks for the opportunately to send Hillary a message - I already did a little earlier and it was personal and for both she and Bill and, of course, the wonderful beautiful Chelsea too. I also donated. May I suggest you send the thread about her win in SD - it was so exHILerating!! You and Waldenpond had your work cut out for you and I appreciate it.  

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    Yeah Boo, that's really me and (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by ap in avl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:11:51 PM EST
    unlike Donna Brazile, I have declared :-)

    Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to put my name out there but I honestly am proud to attach my name to my support of Hillary.

    When I signed up I sent them an email saying that until

    1. Obama is officially nominated in August or
    2. Hillary concedes

    I would be happy to try to raise money to fund Hillary's Presidential campaign.

    I have since deleted my website there but just wanted them to get the point that they jumped the gun tonight.  I'll be happy to reconsider when the time is right.  Tonight just wasn't the night as far as I am concerned.

    BTW, my brother and his family live in Clyde.  I was out there today and love it there!!!

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    I got an email from Act Blue, (none / 0) (#126)
    by SunnyLC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:51:37 PM EST
    with that "artistic rendition" of him...

    I promptly unsubscribed from their crap...

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    Hillary Wins!! (5.00 / 9) (#82)
    by DandyTIger on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:02:02 PM EST
    Hillary wins the popular vote. She wins most all of the battleground states. And it seems clear she is the only candidate that can win in November. The race is really statistically tied between her and Obama, so it's up to the super delegates. It looks like their opinion right now is that they'll vote for Obama in August. But they haven't voted yet. And a lot can happen between now and then.

    I recommend Hillary stay in the race in some capacity. If that means not technically conceding or not bowing out or not suspending, then that's what she should do. I don't know what the precedent is for that sort of thing, but whatever that is should be the mechanism used. And do this in a way that isn't divisive or challenging to the party or eventual nominee if possible. And while in this pseudo suspended state (which both are in anyway since there are no more primaries), I'd recommend spending the time campaigning against McCain and fixing the ills of the Democratic party.

    Take it to Denver! (5.00 / 11) (#83)
    by jen on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:02:26 PM EST
    Just donated again via Wes Clark's link.
     

    Take it to Denver (5.00 / 11) (#84)
    by Nadai on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:06:11 PM EST
    I hope she takes it to Denver and fights it on the floor.  Her delegates deserve the chance to vote for the first woman contender for the Democratic nomination.  Plus I want all the superdelegates on the record as either Clinton or Obama supporters.

    Denver, Denver, Denver. (5.00 / 9) (#94)
    by eleanora on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:07 PM EST
    and then to the White House, Senator Clinton. Thank you for standing up for us, fighting for us, and for leading us in the fight for what we really believe in. I'm so very proud of you and all that you've accomplished. Hang in there and keep fighting, we're with you!

    Number one: go on vacation (5.00 / 7) (#95)
    by ineedalife on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:19 PM EST
    Let Obama stew for a couple weeks.

    Number 2: Absolutely do not pre-turn down the VP. Force Obama to actually make a move. It is good training for him.

    Number 3: Go to Denver. Argue for the platform and reforms such as no more caucuses. Spoil Precious' roll call if he won't give in.

    Deep Thought: (5.00 / 8) (#97)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:42 PM EST
    It's not narcissism when they actually do need you.

    Run to win SenC: a little niece aims 2B Prez now (5.00 / 7) (#98)
    by Ellie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:22 PM EST
    In a Brazilian years I wouldn't have predicted this much of a swing from a micro-encyclopedia on pop teens.

    My sister called earlier to update (I got turned off by the TV misogyny so I turned IT off) and if Sen. Clinton's run got my little cutie pie niece even considering a career in politics, now she's all fired up to go there and "get rid of the sexists."

    She's eight, therefore already beyond the intellectual and maturity level of the presumptive opposition that awaits.

    Frank Sinatra,"I Did it My Way" (5.00 / 2) (#99)
    by JavaCityPal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:31 PM EST
    If it hasn't already been suggested.


    I love Frank Sinatra (none / 0) (#108)
    by angie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:40:37 PM EST
    but somehow I think Sid Vicious' version is more apropos in this situation. :-)

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    Denver. (5.00 / 5) (#101)
    by LibOne on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:19:03 PM EST
    Don't take V.P.  

    Inspiration - Jeralyn pls post to campaign, thanks (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by mkb662 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:25:33 PM EST
    Dear Sen. Clinton:
    You are the most inspirational figure of our lifetime.  Your supporters will support you no matter what you choose.  However, while your reputation will continue to soar, I fear that the future of our party will be doomed without you on the ticket.  18 million people voted for you.  Should the DNC and the caucus rules rob you of your right to president, your supporters, like myself, want to see you as VP.  Please fight for that!  Only then will we win in Nov.  Only then will we have any chance to obtain universal health care.  You can only be 1 out of 100 in the senate.  However, as VP, your platform will be greater.  Yes, it is not the ideal position.  If you see a way to become president, I urge you to do whatever necessary.  However, should the party establishment want to nominate Obama, you have every right to be VP.  We and you have worked to hard to be denied.  Thank you so much for everything you have done for our nation.  Never give up.  Never lose hope.  We, through you, shall overcome.  Manu
    Thanks for forwarding to the campaign, jeralyn.

    Meet me in Denver (5.00 / 3) (#105)
    by pukemoana on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:30:29 PM EST
    your supporters love you for being a fighter, so do it, fight for what you believe in.

    We'll fight along with you... on to Denver! (5.00 / 3) (#106)
    by criticalthinker on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:35:18 PM EST
    Please don't accept the VP. You'll get no credit helping Obama to learn on the job nor making good decision for him; AND you'll be blamed for all the expected "changes" that do not materialize.

    I doubt I'll vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket. Clinton/Obama, YES!

    All the way to Denver (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by democrat1 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:04:16 PM EST
    We never want a racist scum bag like Obama as POTUS.
    There is no way he can become President after sitting silently in the pews as Pastor Wright spews venom, as father Pfleger utters anti white antisemitic rantings and helps corrupt slum lord Rezko.  We want  you to fight and if necessary as an independent. We are behind you and I am sure you will be the next POTUS.

    All the way to denver and then to White House. GO

    Thank You Senator Clinton! (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by Liberty4 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:12:07 PM EST
    You are grace under pressure, and a inspiration in more ways than you can imagine. I'd like to see you run as an Independent, or start another Party. I believe the time is ripe for a change from the two-party system. 18 million people voted for you in the Primary... let's bring their votes and voices to a new Party. Like the phoenix rises from the ashes... Rise, Hillary, Rise.

    I said (none / 0) (#134)
    by Jane in CA on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:55:33 AM EST
    pretty much the same thing in my message. And if my contribution goes toward helping her pay down her debt, well, it's the least I can do for her considering everything how she is the first candidate I can remember who has fought as hard as she has for me and my vote this election.

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    He is looking more and more like a loser. (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by jpete on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:14:45 PM EST
    Don't abandon your country now, Hillary.  The illusion is  wearing thin.

    Denver! As I said on her website (5.00 / 2) (#123)
    by MojaveWolf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:24:37 PM EST
    The comment I left there is too long to post here, I think, but in case it gets lost in the shuffle there-- I truly believe she is the best candidate on the issues and the best leader--I went from thinking she was one of many good-but-not-great candidates at the beginning of the cycle to thinking I've never seen anyone who is as good at debate, has such a great command of issues, and most of all I've been completely wowed by her courage and strength and poise under unprecedented fire.  Not even her husband could have withstood this primary season and still come out on top in the popular vote (which should be more important anyway), and the other candidates who have been smeared like this have all been dead in the water within a few weeks (Dean 2004 and McCain 2000 are all I could think of that are comparable, and look what happened to them).  

    I mentioned my outrage over the way the media and the DNC in their separate ways tried to force the Obama nomination on us, and the Dem leadership failure to stand up for her, and the vote stealing in Michigan and the debacle in Florida.  Also, smearing the Clintons as racists was unforgivable, and that doomed any chance of Obama ever getting my vote, period.  For that reason and because  I believe it would be a nightmare for her, I urged her not to accept the vice presidency if she concedes or is beaten at the convention.

    I hope she continues to push her ideas on health care, solar power/green jobs, and getting the mercenaries out of Iraq, and I can't believe I forgot to mention the idea of women's reproductive freedom, which she has been a champion of while Obama honestly scares me as much as McCain on this (plus I think an otherwise socially liberal anti-choice Obama nomination would get through, whereas I'm hoping a larger democratic majority in congress would have enough spine to stop an anti-choice McCain nomination).

    And I reminded her of what happened the last 8 years after Gore decided to be a good loser and exit gracefully in 2000.  

    In sum, the Presidency or bust!

    We need a strong Party (5.00 / 3) (#125)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:39:03 PM EST
    not a movement of one person.  The only way you make a party strong is by creating a real long term alliance for the Party.  Unity does not mean one side capitulates.  This is a political fight and I want at least a 16 year Democratic dominance so that our Democratic Agenda gets established.  Look at the idiocy of the Bush/Rove strategy.  They destroyed their party and left them with nothing.  We need to build this party that will last for a long time.  Enough of the strong arming from the Obama wing.  This has to be the "new politics" and that is an alliance, not a person.  An alliance designed to win and dominate.  Anything else will not be a populist sea of change.  We build on the Clinton years into the future.  No second bests, no capitulation, real, collaboration of two wings.  Basically, the SDs, do not represent the people, they represent their political interests and cannot be trusted as legitimate brokers.  

    My message to Hillary: (5.00 / 3) (#127)
    by SunnyLC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:55:46 PM EST
    Denver. Don't ENABLE this empty suite or the party any longer!  I trained a young guy once and he got the promotion...this sort of thing sticks in my craw and is exactly what is happening now.  The treatment of women by the party and seemingly embraced by Obama is disgusting.
    Sorry, no vote for Obama...And I don't want Hillary as VP. It would be intolerable.

    She keeps winning primaries (5.00 / 3) (#130)
    by nellre on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:03:34 AM EST
    Even though the MSM and Obama's campaign keeps trying to shout over it.

    What that means to me is that we the people have decided we want her to take it to the convention.
    It's more than a nomination here. She'd be fighting for our party's identity. She'd be fighting for a free and objective press. She'd be fighting for the future of America. We really need her!

    And she can beat McCain! What's with those SDs?

    she should tell sen. obama (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by cpinva on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:31:26 AM EST
    and his campaign that it was a lovely party and, um, the convention isn't until august. surely they remember the convention, when the actual nominee is selected, don't they? self-coronations rarely succeed, just ask many a usurper to the british throne. lol

    take a little time to recover, then get back in it. lobby the super delegates with facts, not fantasy. watch obama continue to implode. there's still plenty of time, between now and august, for more nasty surprises to come tumbling out of his closet.

    In your heart (5.00 / 2) (#133)
    by Amiss on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:49:38 AM EST
    I trust your judgement and I would love for you to use it once again to do whatever you feel is right for YOU and YOUR future. As a dedicated supporter, I feel first of all, you need a rest. Take some time and do not rush the decision.

    Remember your supporters love and admire you for who you are and the inspiration you have given so many during this difficult campaign.

    Dear Senator Clinton... (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by OrangeFur on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 02:28:30 AM EST
    Dear Senator Clinton,

    Keep going.

    I have never been as proud of a candidate and a statesperson as I am of you. You have taught me, and tens of millions of Americans, the value of commitment, dedication, and perseverance.

    So many times they tried to count you out. Before New Hampshire. Before Super Tuesday. Before Ohio and Texas. Over and over again. At times they convinced me, and I lost faith. But you never wavered. You convinced me to believe again. And here you are--here we are--the unambiguous winners of the popular vote, the largest coalition ever assembled in primary history.

    Keep going, Senator. Your voters need you. America needs you. Our country faces daunting challenges--in many ways, worse problems than those that you and Bill faced in 1993. You are by far the best prepared and most qualified to see us through. Please keep going. Until the delegates vote at the convention, this race is not over.

    I am so honored to have voted for you, to have contributed to your campaign, to have made phone calls for you. Thank you for everything you've done. I'm with you all the way.

    Sincerely yours,
    [OrangeFur]

    Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic party (1.57 / 7) (#77)
    by William Ockham on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:52:32 PM EST
    If Hillary Clinton wants to have the voice in the Democratic party that she has earned, she will have to concede and endorse Obama. Platform fights are fine (and I hope she wins on universal health care), but the nomination fight is over.

    Funny (5.00 / 10) (#91)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:14:58 PM EST
    Seems to me like she already has a pretty big voice in the Democratic Party.

    Having the support of millions of voters will do that for you.

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    At most she might suspend because (4.00 / 1) (#139)
    by andrys on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:36:15 AM EST
    it is only fair that she let the delegates who represent the almost 18,000,000 votes cast for her specifically have the opportunity to cast a vote for her on the convention floor, where the actual voting takes place, as yet another 'historic' candidate.

      You'd want the same if it were turned around.

      Also, remember, anything could happen as far as news from the past that could still change the situation before August 25 and it would be smarter not to alienate the Clinton supporters that Obama will definitely need or hurt a situation that might be reversed, per a statement from Bob Beckel, the Democratic strategist made on FoxNews yesterday, about a rumor that is unusual in that it leads him to be wary.

      Even if he is worrying about nothing, it's obvious that he thinks something could happen.

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    two choices (1.00 / 6) (#40)
    by diogenes on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:42 PM EST
    1.  Drop out of the race now and spend the next two months working hard to increase Obama's standing, thus showing the ability to be a team player come convention time (when VP is picked) or come inauguration day (when the cabinet is picked).
    2.  Spend the next two months telling anyone who will listen that Obama is unelectable (due to Wright, white working class voters, etc), trying to further weaken him instead of trying to fix these relative weaknesses in the Obama campaign, so that the supers in August might somehow think that he can't win as of August and somehow award her the nomination.


    Delay (1.00 / 6) (#87)
    by Natal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:10:44 PM EST
    The longer Hillary delays endorsement the greater the division in the party. And lessen chances for being the VP.

    Jeralyn, have you used this video yet? (none / 0) (#102)
    by ap in avl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:24:20 PM EST
    Sorry if you have this but if not it's perfect for a later post perhaps:

    Superwoman by Alicia Keys

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DJ8xgCF_l8

    i loooove this one! (none / 0) (#115)
    by pukemoana on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:09:52 PM EST
    I think she should keep going... (none / 0) (#120)
    by kredwyn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:17:33 PM EST


    Denver All The Way!!!! (none / 0) (#122)
    by nycstray on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:23:44 PM EST
    I will settle for nothing less. Period. End of story.

    I will donate money, time, design skills, WHATEVER you need. There is only ONE person who belongs on the top of the Dem ticket. My Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    That should be SUIT, not suite! (none / 0) (#128)
    by SunnyLC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:57:26 PM EST


    NO HILLARY NO UNITY (none / 0) (#136)
    by PhxNickD on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:13:05 AM EST
    As much as I have wishes for what Hillary should do, I think this women is so amazingly intelligent she will know what the right thing to do is. I have to believe that. While this primary was historic, the negative aspect of it was as historic as the positive.  Nominating the first black presidential candidate who is anti-American, has a wife who has never been proud of her country and has been given credit with bringing in a whole new generation of participants -- although no thought has been given to the vile and vulgarity of these young participants and who have threatened riots on many occasions if their candidate is not crowned -- has alienated the bearers of a party to get what he thought was his right in this process.  

    I venture to say, the bearers of this party who feel they have been left behind by the democratic party along with every single American who IS proud of this county will be a powerful enough block to give the election to John McCain.

    No Dream Ticket (none / 0) (#140)
    by laurie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:08:19 AM EST
    It isn't a dream-it's a nightmare for Hillary and Bill.
     Take over Pelosi's job, see how things go, take things easy, if Obama can't make it (for well known reasons) step in in August. If he can make it, leave things be and concentrate on getting things done in the Senate.


    An Independent Hillary (none / 0) (#142)
    by EmSeaEm on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:47:18 AM EST
    I would support and vote for Hillary as an independent candidate for President. I will vote for her regardless, even if I have to write-in her name on my ballot. In my state, the worst possible outcome of my vote would be that our electors will go to the Republician, again. (There's less than zero chance that Obama Dem's can win Idaho)

    Who knows what might happen before the Convention? (none / 0) (#153)
    by McKinless on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:45:18 AM EST
    I hope she hangs loose. Some of the supers may have second thoughts because of events between now and then. Continue to "be available."

    What she should do..... (none / 0) (#154)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:22:43 AM EST
    If she really wants to make a difference in people's lives, she should get the hell outta govt.  

    Start a low-cost non-profit health insurance company, or open non-profit health clinics in depressed areas.  Start a clothing line and open manufacturing facilities that provide fair wages and benefits to American workers.  The possibilities are endless with the Clinton name and their access to capital...if she is sincere about making a difference.

    That's not what she wants to do (none / 0) (#155)
    by DancingOpossum on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:49:59 AM EST
    She wants to be in politics. She should be, she is good at it. She's earned it. The people want her. I'm sure you would love to see her shut away somewhere where she can't cause any more "trouble," but that isn't going to happen. BO will go down in flames in Nov. and she will be ready to take on McCain, and win, after his first term.

    I'd just like to see (none / 0) (#156)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:11:31 AM EST
    some indication from the Clintonistas that they're aware of anything that's occured over the last eight years that's in need of redress other than an overly dragged out prelude to the ascension of Hillary.

    From the content of 99% of the posts it's getting more difficult not to come to the conclusion that comlacency and Im-alright-Jack are the prevailing substitutes for what used to be quaintly refered to as social-historical consciousness, and that aside from that, we're also experiencing an influx
    of McCain shills and superficial types who only care about jumping on the first-woman-president bandwagon.

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    Prove me wrong (none / 0) (#157)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:24:37 AM EST
    Please.

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    Actually.... (none / 0) (#160)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:01:27 PM EST
    I'm looking for a candidate that will "cause trouble" for the war and prison machines....but Hillary/Obama/McCain are part of the war and prison machine.

    It was just a suggestion, by all means Hillary should do what makes her happy, but if she really wants to make a difference in Joe and Jane Doe's life she could do a lot more outside of our broken government with her powerful name and access to funds.

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