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Rezko Guilty Verdict: The Relevance

Bump and Update: My long thoughts on the relevance of Rezko's conviction are below:

Earlier: Guilty on 16 of 24 counts.

Here's the blank verdict form (pdf)listing the counts.

The Rezko verdict will be announced in five minutes.

Guilty on one count, more counts still being read

Guilty on more than one count.No cameras in the courtroom.

My thoughts on the verdict below:

First, I don't like the guilty verdicts. I was hoping the jury would reject the testimony of star snitch and lowlife Stuart Levine, who in exchange for singing about Rezko, is going from a sentencing guideline range of life in prison to 67 months, assuming the Judge does what the prosecutor wants. Levine's plea agreement is here.

Second, as to Obama, this trial was not about him. There is not a shred of evidence to suggest any connection between him and the illegal activity charged in the case. The Government said so. Obama's name was barely mentioned at the trial.

Rezko's case is important in the context of government corruption in Illinois. This is a state that put more innocent people on death row than guilty people. The Republican Governor, George Ryan, emptied death row and imposed a moratorium. He was later indicted on corruption charges, tried and convicted, a case I followed continuously here at TalkLeft. He is now serving 6.5 years in federal prison.

As I've written several times, Obama was instrumental in getting state legislation passed to require mandatory taping of interrogations to reduce false confessions and confessions that are beaten out of people and in reforming the Illinois death penalty system. He is to be credited for that. Police brutality, torture and coverups by the cops in Chicago has been well-documented, including in the fine investigative reports in the Chicago Tribune by reporters like Maurice Possley, Steve Mills and Ken Armstrong. I have been highlighting these problems on TalkLeft since I began blogging in 2002.

What's significant about Rezko's trial are the allegations of corruption in the current Illinois governor's administration. The allegations aren't limited to Republicans or to Governor Ryan. We don't know if the current Democratic Governor will be indicted, or now that Rezko has been convicted, whether Rezko will cooperate with that probe. There are also other defendants and probable defendants in related investigations (all mentioned in my prior posts on Rezko's trial) that have yet to conclude their cases.

Not one of these corruption investigations has anything to do with Barack Obama. What they have in common is they show there is something rotten in Illinois politics and it has yet to be fully weeded out. Its systemic, it carries through from one administration to the next, business as usual.

So it is completely unfair to say that Obama should be under some kind of cloud or suspicion of illegal conduct for his association with Rezko.

But as I wrote here, it does call his judgment into question. He said as just 3 months ago when he sat down with the reporters at the Chicago Sun Times:

Is Rezko still a friend?

"Yes,'' Obama said, "with the caveat if it turns out the allegations are true, then he's not who I thought he was, and I'd be very disappointed with that.''

And it's that friendship, Obama said, that probably kept him from realizing it was a mistake to enter into a real estate deal with Rezko.

"Probably because I'd known him for a long time, and he'd acted in an aboveboard manner with me," he said. "And I considered him a friend. ... It's further evidence that I'm not perfect.''

On the question of Obama's judgment regarding Rezko, and why it isn't comparable to something like Norman Hsu, see here. As I wrote then,
Obama says voters who are concerned about his judgment should view his involvement with Rezko as "a mistake in not seeing the potential conflicts of interest."

Obama says despite his mistakes (engaging in personal real estate deals with someone under criminal investigation who was a contributor to his multiple campaigns for public office and involved in politics -- and his failure to spot the potential conflicts of interest) voters should "also "see somebody who is not engaged in any wrongdoing . . . and who they can trust."

I think that's a fair statement of what voters should ask themselves. For me, I see someone who is not engaged in any wrongdoing, but the trust issue gives me pause.

Now, having had months to follow Obama's campaign closely , I can say for me, as a voter, he's passed the trust test with respect to his character. He's honest and he has integrity.

But there's more than integrity at stake when we put trust in our future leaders. We also have to trust their ability to lead us and their experience and judgment are very much a part of that. Obama's failure to spot both the warning signs and clear indicators of conflicts of interest with Rezko do go to the issue of experience and judgment.

As Obama said, voters will have to decide that issue for themselves.

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    Chicago Tribune says (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Anne on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:50:20 PM EST
    guilty on at least one count - don't know which one.

    From the Salon.com article in (5.00 / 3) (#186)
    by nativenycer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:28:00 PM EST

    Obama, on the other hand, seems to have derived some material benefit from his friendship with Rezko. During his first year in the Senate, flush with the book advance for "The Audacity of Hope," Obama and his wife decided to trade up from a condo to a bigger, more secure home in Kenwood, a South Side neighborhood of turreted, balconied piles popular with University of Chicago econ professors looking to blow their Nobel Prize loot.

    They found a $1.65 million house with four fireplaces, a wine cellar and a black wrought-iron fence. The doctor who lived there also owned the vacant lot next door and, although the properties were listed separately, wanted to sell both at the same time.

    Despite their new income, the Obamas could not have afforded both parcels. The Obamas closed on their house in June 2005. On the same day, Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the vacant lot for $625,000.

    They later sold a portion of the lot to the Obamas, for $104,500, so the family could expand its yard. The Rezkos then paid $14,000 to build a fence along the property line.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/02/01/rezko/index.html

    [ Parent ]

    From the Chicago Sun Times (5.00 / 2) (#206)
    by nativenycer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:49:19 PM EST
    The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

    "Their buildings were falling apart,'' said a former city official. "They just didn't pay attention to the condition of these buildings.''

    Eleven of Rezko's buildings were in Obama's state Senate district....

    Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama's time with the firm.

    Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

    • Seventeen buildings -- many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat -- ended up in foreclosure.

    • Six buildings are currently boarded up.

    • Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

    • Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

    • At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article

    [ Parent ]
    From what I've read (none / 0) (#228)
    by Jeannie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:24:37 PM EST
    there is a good deal more to it than that. The large single lot was subdivided only for this sale, and Michelle was on the committee that approved this (it needed approval because it is a heritage house). So Obama and Rezko bought the properties on the same day - with Obama paying $300,000 less than the price on his part and Rezko paying full price. Now, the part Rezko bought for $650,000 was actually Obama's lawn and driveway.
    All this may be legal, but it is certainly fishy....

    [ Parent ]
    Guilty 16 counts (none / 0) (#48)
    by Leisa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:01:04 PM EST
    not guilty 8. Chicago Sun-times...

    [ Parent ]
    Jeralyn, any ideas as to what this means? (none / 0) (#106)
    by jawbone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:28:07 PM EST
    Read on RezkoWatch blog that he was found not guilty on the extortin charge, which sounds to me, a nonlawyer, like a biggie.

    But I really don't know--would appreciate your input and analysis.

    [ Parent ]

    Count 16 was predicted (5.00 / 1) (#121)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:32:58 PM EST
    to be the count that hung the jury. It was the extortion count, despite the name, not a biggie. Not compared to the multiple convictions on the other counts. See my explanation of the extortion count here.


    [ Parent ]
    David Shuster is not giving very good report on (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jawbone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:55:00 PM EST
    Rezko verdict--MessNBC protection of their fave Dem?

    Have the various counts been determined to all be guilty verdict?

    When Shuster subbed for Ed Schultz (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by Radiowalla on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:25:44 PM EST
    a few weeks ago, he airily dismissed the Rezko affair as being a big bunch of nothing.

    On the other hand, he said if Hillary were to be nominated that all kinds of new stuff, important stuff, was going to explode about...get ready for this...the Travel Office.

    Shuster is such a tool.

    [ Parent ]

    NPR and the BBC both looked at (5.00 / 1) (#131)
    by samtaylor2 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:38:54 PM EST
    And said there was nothing to it, outside of the relationship.  No criminal acts in other words.

    [ Parent ]
    Outside of the relationship? (5.00 / 3) (#145)
    by pie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:44:18 PM EST
    Well, okay.  Nothing to see here.  Move along.

    [ Parent ]
    As far as anyone knows. (none / 0) (#146)
    by vicsan on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:45:26 PM EST
    NOW is the time they will more than likely get the info they are after. I would think, but I'm no attorney...so I could be wrong.

    [ Parent ]
    How can he be (none / 0) (#148)
    by Grace on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:45:46 PM EST
    guilty if they aren't criminal acts?  There would be no charges if they weren't criminal acts.  By virtue of the fact he was arrested and went to court, these are criminal acts.  

    [ Parent ]
    So long as there was no conviction (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by Salo on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:54:06 PM EST
    journalists could say that there was no there there. A mortgage deal with this guy is a political headache for November. A twenty year long political ascoiation with his is also a headache.

    [ Parent ]
    Yeah. (5.00 / 1) (#162)
    by pie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:55:53 PM EST
    Just like Whitewater.

    Oy.

    [ Parent ]

    it 's a headache. (5.00 / 2) (#176)
    by Salo on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:12:41 PM EST
    That's all i'm saying.

    Somehow Starr turned a Whitewater headache into Monicagate and an impeachment trial--a political yellow fever.

    Do you now see?

    [ Parent ]

    THE TRAVEL OFFICE (none / 0) (#254)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:21:12 PM EST
    My God. Then I suppose we would have been treated to filegate, Vince Foster, etc., etc.

    I read an AP story a week or so back, may have been a Nedra Pickler special, that threw a bunch of this old pseudo-scandal crap in just for good measure along with the usual WWTSBQ.

    Of course all those youth voters were too young to remember any of this stuff. The press so often knows who the suckers are.

    All this for the sake of nominating someone clearly not ready for prime time.

    Absolute madness.

    [ Parent ]

    Obama response to Rezko verdict (5.00 / 3) (#241)
    by Josey on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:47:09 PM EST
    LOL - from Riverdaughter -

    UPDATE: In comments, Pat Johnson breaks the news on Obama's statement in response to the verdicts.

    I would like to apologize for my past associations, which also include my white grandmother, and pastor, and visiting pastor, and chief fund raiser, and wife, and anybody else in the future who may come out of the woodwork who will reflect badly on me and whom I will have to disavow.

    They do not reflect my values. They do not reflect my beliefs. They are not what my campaign is all about. I stress hope and change as the model of the message I am attempting to convey.

    I never knew what Rev. Wright said in his sermons. I was busy directing the cars in the parking lot when he said those things. Some Sundays I just slept in.

    Rev. Pfleger deceived me and I am sorry I ever contributed or passed legislation on his behalf in the amount of thousands of dollars. He told me he was only an amateur comic and impersonator and had I known he was going national I would have distanced myself long before. Sorry.

    Even though our association goes back some 17 years and we spoke daily during my various campaigns, I hardly knew Tony Rezko. Simply because we vacationed together we always had separate rooms.

    I always knew Michele to be soft and sweet and deferential to me. However, I can only say that this militant side of her is something I never noticed before. She will remain in Chicago when I take up residence in the WH.

    I hope that I have managed to clear up any misconceptions you may have had about me because of these people. As I have said often in my campaign, in that same speech you have heard repeated over and over and over, you can trust me. I am the Transcender after all.

    [ Parent ]

    Maybe Obama will take this opportunity (none / 0) (#258)
    by shannon on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:39:28 PM EST
    to give a major speech on "Corruption in Chicago". It will be one for the history books, children will get the day off from school to listen. Mayor Daley will change course in Chicago and demand that there be no more corruption. All will be forgiven for Obama's association with Rezko. End of story.

    [ Parent ]
    Excellent. (5.00 / 0) (#16)
    by vicsan on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:55:29 PM EST
    Perfect timing. My guess is GUILTY on all counts.

    A few days ago they were conflicted on (none / 0) (#43)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:00:09 PM EST
    one count, so I guess it would be hard to say if it is all, part...

    [ Parent ]
    Lynn Sweet said (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by americanincanada on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:56:25 PM EST
    Guilty of 5 so far

    fox (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by CHDmom on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:05 PM EST
    fox said so far guilty of 16 counts

    keep 'em coming....next I want to hear he will (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:01:32 PM EST
    get a fine and probation because he rolled over on some people.

    [ Parent ]
    Fox says guilty on 16 counts (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by badu on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:09 PM EST


    GUILTY 16 of 24 counts!!! (5.00 / 5) (#23)
    by vicsan on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:32 PM EST
    Ruh Roh!

    All I know is that (5.00 / 15) (#25)
    by madamab on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:57:38 PM EST
    Obama barely knew Rezko, so who cares?

    The Republicans will not dare to bring this up anyway. They always run fair and truth-based campaigns.

    /drinks more Kool-Aid

    Obama is screwed either way (4.50 / 8) (#73)
    by Exeter on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:07:14 PM EST
    If he does know Rezko well enough to buy a house with him, then it shows poor judgement in who he chooses to hang out with. If he does not Rezko very well... then wtf is he buying house with somebody he barely knows? BTW, I thought Obama has charactorized their relationship as "friends" in the past?

    [ Parent ]
    After this (5.00 / 3) (#129)
    by Grace on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:38:12 PM EST
    Rezko will be someone Obama barely knows.  

    Probably wouldn't recognize him if he ran into him on the street.  

    [ Parent ]

    Turn the page! (none / 0) (#135)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:40:05 PM EST
    Move on!

    [ Parent ]
    Like George didn't know Kenny Boy (5.00 / 5) (#159)
    by MontanaMaven on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:54:34 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Probably (none / 0) (#198)
    by Andy08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:41:24 PM EST
    wouldn't recognize him after being thrown under the bus.

    What about sentencing? When does that take place and what are the possibilities? I'm sure Jeralyn wrote about this before;  a link would be appreciated.

    [ Parent ]

    CNN guilty of 16 (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by bjorn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:58:00 PM EST


    guilty on 4 of first 5 says the Sun Times (5.00 / 0) (#29)
    by karen for Clinton on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:58:18 PM EST


    CNN just had a screen (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by badu on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:59:00 PM EST
    but unfortunately they have cafferty bashing hillary again, so I have to change the channel

    So now Tony can roll over for leniency (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by ineedalife on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:00:07 PM EST
    I know the immediate target is Blago. But Tony may have bigger chips to bargain with. Of course he may have Jan 21 circled on his calender with party hats drawn all around it. His appeal should keep him quiet that long.

    Plea bargains occur before trial, not after (none / 0) (#205)
    by seanwright on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:48:35 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Can't they negotiate on sentencing, (none / 0) (#256)
    by Valhalla on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:57:35 PM EST
    though?  Assuming he knows where some bodies are buried.  I think that's not unusual.

    [ Parent ]
    The Company One Keeps (5.00 / 6) (#45)
    by Redshoes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:00:17 PM EST
    Well no wonder the urgency to declare the nomination.  They were racing the jury -- this would have stepped on the that a bit.  

    trib's article (none / 0) (#78)
    by Redshoes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:08:23 PM EST
    Sad commentary (5.00 / 2) (#98)
    by Redshoes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:19:44 PM EST
    "The trial also provided ample fodder for cynics who see Illinois politicians as members of a cozy club motivated more by greed than altruism or ideology."

    [ Parent ]
    I think last year (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:42:03 PM EST
    the Trib ran a story that Illinois has more pols under indictment than any other state in the union, really embarassing and demonstrates how ingrained it is. Pretty pathetic for such a stronghold of demos.

    [ Parent ]
    Illinois, it's a sad "state" of affairs. (none / 0) (#182)
    by AX10 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:20:56 PM EST
    .

    [ Parent ]
    Best anniversary present, thanks. (5.00 / 3) (#51)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:01:19 PM EST


    No gloating, Stellaaa! (none / 0) (#59)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:02:51 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    Still, I am more (5.00 / 3) (#74)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:07:20 PM EST
    angry about the housing money he used to gamble.  URG.  But Obama did not know, I forget.  

    [ Parent ]
    Suspicious minds (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:03:39 PM EST
    "wondering" who the hold out juror was...I know, but it is Chicago.  

    I do hope the Clinton campaign, including (5.00 / 6) (#87)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:12:16 PM EST
    Bill Clinton, say "no comment" re this verdict.*

    Perfect answer. (5.00 / 2) (#110)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:29:50 PM EST
    Or "I'm not familiar with that topic.  You should ask someone who knows more about that than I do.".

    (aka None of my business.)

    [ Parent ]

    Didn't Rezko's "associates" (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:13:34 PM EST
    spring for his very high bail?

    Oh, yes they did!  $8.5 MIL worth!

    Anyone here have friends like that?  Anyone here need friends like that?

    Wasn't that Auchi? (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by vicsan on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:29:42 PM EST
    I can't remember. Auchi is the man who wired Mrs. Rezko the money to buy the lot on BO's property so he could afford his mansion......and they just happened to close those 2 real estate deals on the same day, but they don't know each other.
    ~~rolling eyes~~

    He was also the guy who wired Rezko Millions and the authorities then thought Rezko was going to flee and that's when they arrested him.


    [ Parent ]

    Article doesn't say. (none / 0) (#115)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:31:20 PM EST
    No names named.
    I just googled up the one article though.

    [ Parent ]
    Ha Ha..... (5.00 / 3) (#90)
    by apolitiko on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:13:42 PM EST
    ....it's kind of fun to watch Obama supporters spin this over in places like Mydd. Please tell me 16 guilty counts won't have some effect on Obama.

    It's plain bad news. (5.00 / 6) (#95)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:17:27 PM EST
    It couldn't be more poorly timed.

    Obama the Dem nominee!
    Obama's friend Rezko convicted of doing dirty business with politicians!

    Can you feel the g-forces?

    [ Parent ]

    Obama is going to (5.00 / 3) (#141)
    by Grace on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:42:21 PM EST
    run his campaign based on that "Good Judgment" he has.  Uh huh.  

    [ Parent ]
    Speaking of timing (5.00 / 2) (#165)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:58:49 PM EST
    I read on a previous TL thread today that Obama's campaign is accusing McCain of shady financials.

    That's the pattern, accuse the other side of your behavior and get the dogs off your scent.


    [ Parent ]

    They'll need Hillary more than ever (5.00 / 2) (#168)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:03:11 PM EST
    How else will they keep the media from spending time on the story?  Quick!  Talk about Clinton!

    Obama's "twenty years of service" seems to cut both ways.  Twenty years of doing what and with whom?

    [ Parent ]

    Will MessNBC even mention it? Anything on NPR? (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by jawbone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:31:42 PM EST
    Can anyone imagine the MCM fever pitch if this were some case tied to the Clintons? Or even a big Clinton donor?

    [ Parent ]
    Who needs the MSM (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:38:16 PM EST
    when you have 527s?

    [ Parent ]
    so why are you here if all the fun (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:50:26 PM EST
    is at mydd?

    [ Parent ]
    Ha. CNN "reports" Rezko guilty.. (5.00 / 3) (#93)
    by Shainzona on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:13:58 PM EST
    on some counts.

    Some?  How about 16 or 14 counts!

    Uh oh. (5.00 / 3) (#97)
    by pie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:19:06 PM EST
    A federal jury today convicted political fundraiser Antoin Rezko, a longtime backer of Sen. Barack Obama, of influence peddling in the high councils of Illinois state government.

    And so it begins...

    The big fish they are after is (5.00 / 2) (#101)
    by gabbyone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:23:24 PM EST
     Governor Blagojevich...and that is where Obama comes in.  There was a vote Obama made in the State Senate to move some money that could be the one that gets the presumed Presidential nominee.

    It's more than that. (4.40 / 5) (#111)
    by Boston Boomer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:29:58 PM EST
    Obama sponsored legislation to allow Blagovich to reduce the size of a health care board so that he could control it and get kickbacks.


    [ Parent ]
    rephrase your comment (5.00 / 3) (#126)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:36:36 PM EST
    that was not the purpose of Obama's legislation.

    Your first comment was false as well.

    Do not post false information here.

    [ Parent ]

    I'm sorry, Jerelyn. (5.00 / 1) (#170)
    by Boston Boomer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:05:26 PM EST
    I did think it was true.  It won't happen again.


    [ Parent ]
    Link? (none / 0) (#119)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:32:32 PM EST
    Please?

    [ Parent ]
    google is your friend (5.00 / 0) (#139)
    by karen for Clinton on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:41:39 PM EST
    You can also try the archives of any Chicago daily, they've been reporting about it for years.

    Or of course any Hillary board search.

    Sorry if you find me snarky, but I am weary from saying vet your candidate for a year.

    [ Parent ]

    If someone brings up the subject (none / 0) (#156)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:52:28 PM EST
    I expect them to provide the link.

    Especially with all the garbage floating around the internet.  One person's amazing piece of investigative journalism may be another's conspiracy theory.

    [ Parent ]

    I can't figure out how to post a link here. (none / 0) (#171)
    by Boston Boomer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:07:08 PM EST
    As I said, it won't happen again.  I'm not a regular offender.  Please excuse my excitement this time?


    [ Parent ]
    Hey, BB (5.00 / 1) (#173)
    by Davidson on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:10:07 PM EST
    Just highlight the words and then click on the icon that looks like a chain/link (third from right).  Paste the link in the box that shows up and press OK.

    [ Parent ]
    Note, too (none / 0) (#190)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:30:13 PM EST
    if your browser is set not to allow, a bar the width of your screen will appear, click on it and select "temporarily allow....", then click the LINK button above the comment box again to get the popup you need to paste your link into.

    [ Parent ]
    See that little chain in your comment section? (none / 0) (#185)
    by BarnBabe on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:25:20 PM EST
    Click on it and it will ask you for http address.Insert the address and click ok: Then between the >< insert the name you want to call it such as Yahoo. Then it will be linked.yahoo

    [ Parent ]
    This lady has written it all up (none / 0) (#136)
    by befuddled on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:40:17 PM EST
    in (to the non-legal mind)numbing detail:
    http://www.opednews.com/author/author58.html
    Scroll down to her articles, the part about the hospital I think is in Chapter IV or V. She repeats herself too.

    [ Parent ]
    Illinois Political (none / 0) (#255)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:41:25 PM EST
    gunk is bi-partisan.  Former Governor Ryan (R)is in the slammer and now his Democratic successor is exhibiting an odor.

    Is this what Obama means by unity?

    [ Parent ]

    the next DKos headline you will see is (5.00 / 7) (#114)
    by p lukasiak on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:30:36 PM EST
    REZKO EXONERATED ON EIGHT COUNTS!!!!

    LOL. You bet. (5.00 / 3) (#117)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:31:53 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    And the Top Rec Diary (5.00 / 4) (#149)
    by BDB on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:45:47 PM EST
    "How Hillary Clinton Framed Rezko"

    [ Parent ]
    LOL; yep (5.00 / 0) (#201)
    by Andy08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:43:11 PM EST
    he was "only" convicted on 2 out of 3 counts !!!  

    These guys are really so pathetic that'd be laughable if it were not related to the US Presidency...

    [ Parent ]

    My favorite headline of this type was (none / 0) (#216)
    by andrys on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:11:22 PM EST
    the one someone posted re what the headlines would be
    for West Virginia's primary

    "OBAMA COMES IN SECOND!
     Clinton places next to last"

    What's funny is that HuffPost did treat that 41-point win
    as a tiny font sub-heading without percentage points mentioned, underneath a huge-font headline about an Obama accomplishment of the moment.

    [ Parent ]

    Good News (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by seanwright on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:35:25 PM EST
    The trials over, nothing bad came out about Obama.  Time to move on.

    nothing bad except Obama's judgment (5.00 / 1) (#157)
    by Josey on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:53:49 PM EST
    Hmm...didn't Obama base his campaign on his "good judgment"?
    Oh wait - that only involved his opposition to the war before he was a senator and couldn't vote.
    But when he could vote, he was all for it.
    And when he could buy a lot from a friend under federal investigation,
    he was all for it.

    [ Parent ]
    Man.. (5.00 / 5) (#125)
    by JustJennifer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:36:32 PM EST
    Can you imagine if this case was about someone tied closely to the Clintons?  The MSM would be acting very differently right now.

    Exactlly... (5.00 / 1) (#237)
    by AmyinSC on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:41:51 PM EST
    And I hate to quibble, but if this is an indication of a systemic political problem in IL, then it DOES reflect somewhat on Obama.  He is a PRODUCT of the IL political system, and came out of that system.  And he IS connected to Rezko at LEAST as a close friend and associate, so it does reflect on his JUDGMENT at best.

    [ Parent ]
    LOL! (5.00 / 0) (#127)
    by vicsan on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:36:55 PM EST
    Why are you so sad?:) ROTFLMAO!

    I know EXACTLY how you feel! I'm ECSTATIC!

    The MSM will drop this like (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by kenosharick on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:41:10 PM EST
    a hot potato to concentrate on the veep contest and continue bashing Hillary. I wonder. If she were the veep, woud the MSM stop attacking her to help Obama?

    If you want (5.00 / 0) (#203)
    by Andy08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:45:51 PM EST
    good and serious coverage go to foreign press; Times Online or BBC.

    The MSM is not media in a journalistic sense any more; it's just a lousy reality show.

    [ Parent ]

    Let's not be so judgmental. (5.00 / 8) (#151)
    by OrangeFur on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:46:38 PM EST
    Let she or he who is without close friends who have been convicted of sixteen crimes in federal court throw the first stone.

    More info. (5.00 / 2) (#152)
    by Fabian on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:47:39 PM EST
    The jury convicted Rezko of wire and mail fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery. He was acquitted of attempted extortion.

    Chi Trib reports.

    Rezko Convicted (5.00 / 0) (#195)
    by roywalser on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:33:50 PM EST
    Anyone who has followed this story could see this coming for months. I'm sure Hillary could as well and this may be the reason she has hung on so long. Mr Obama is hip deep in the "board games" illegality and would likely be the big fish Fitzgerald would love to land. Look for Rezko to sing some not so pretty tunes for our "new politics" candidate.

    Once Obama had his hand in deeper pockets.... (5.00 / 0) (#199)
    by ineedalife on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:41:41 PM EST
    he returned Rezko's tainted money. I do think that is relevant. The American people should know that  the seed money for Obama's political career may have been looted from the Illinois pension funds. They may not care, but they should know.

    I do not cast any negatives on whether (5.00 / 0) (#202)
    by zfran on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:44:16 PM EST
    there is anything more to Obama and Resko, however, it was reported that during the trial (or at least during the first days of the trail,) Obama had a representative in the courtroom taking notes. Why??

    Good analysis, TL (5.00 / 1) (#209)
    by scribe on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:52:04 PM EST
    I think the same thing can be said about Chicago politics as being corrupt, as (a long time ago) a former US Attorney being interviewed about the pervasive, generational corruption in Newark, NJ was reported to have said:  "I have no explanation for why [it is so persistent, even in the face of our best efforts].  I think it's in the water."

    A former partner of mine went to law school in Chicago and one of his friends/classmates was also an up-and-coming pol.  You worked your ward.  If people would put out yard signs, they got first dibs on new trash cans of the municipally-required design.  Around election time, the guy had a pickup full of new trash cans....  It starts from there.

    You also note:

    Police brutality and torture by the cops in Chicago has been well-documented, including in the fine investigative reports in the Chicago Tribune by reporters like Maurice Possley and Ken Armstrong and others. I have been highlighting these problems on TalkLeft since I began blogging in 2002.

    IIRC, was not one of the original lead interrogators at GITMO a reservist, who in civilian life was a Chicago detective (and tangled up in tortured-defendants'-confession cases)?  

    Rezko's fundraiser for Obama's... (5.00 / 0) (#211)
    by citizen53 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:04:48 PM EST
    senate campaign, that seemed to skirt FEC rules, was  also a troublesome episode.  Not illegal, but an indicator that illusions can be deceiving.

    Open Secrets (none / 0) (#249)
    by suisser on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:07:10 PM EST
    Very interesting info on both fundraising and spending by the candidates LINK

    [ Parent ]
    DNC fundraiser (none / 0) (#261)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 03:02:54 PM EST
    - The night before Obama announced the revised faux-saintliness of DNC donation guidelines, as well as renovations to the usual back-door, he starred at a $28,500 per plate DNC fundraiser.

    If you want to see something spectacularly funny, take a look at the reported lobbying income of Sidley-Austin, the law & lobbying firm where Obama interned and met his wife.

    It spikes bigtime after Obama reached D.C.

    Nothing like hoping for change, eh?

    [ Parent ]

    Why America is Eventually Toast, Part I: (5.00 / 0) (#213)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:07:35 PM EST
    On the Chicago Tribune's current RSS feed, there's been nary a mention of either the Rezko trial or its just-announced verdict -- but the Tribune's lead post for the past two days links to the lurid wittness testimony in singer R. Kelly's molestation trial that was offered by his former girlfriend, which concerns his series of three-way sexual encounters with both her and an underage teenaged girl.

    It's so nice to see that mainstream American media has its priorities straight.

    dear Jeralyn (5.00 / 1) (#227)
    by dem08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:24:35 PM EST
    I HAVE had my comments here removed and I support Obama.

    But/and/however, despite MY comments being struck occasionally and my support for Obama, I love Talk Left.

    The poster who uses Seymour Glass is out of line when he criticizes you, Jeralyn, and when he criticizes Talk Left. You have built something great here. You do not need me to defend you, but I am because Talk Left is valuable and rare.

    I don't read Kos or too many pro-Obama blogs. I prefer political discussions that are not based on "winner takes all". Talk Left allows me to understand the passion of pro-Hillary people.

    I wish there were a similar pro-Obama site. Holy Moonbeams, I wish there were a similar pro-McCain site.

    We need more civility and less contempt.

    Seymour Glass (none / 0) (#242)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:47:43 PM EST
    has been removed from the site.

    [ Parent ]
    Chicago Tribune (5.00 / 1) (#246)
    by Andy08 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:51:37 PM EST
    has extensive coverage along with a very good time-line of the Rezko-Obama long relationship  --scroll down) and the MLS Property listings of this slumloard--as Hillary correctly called him in the SC debate

     LINK HERE

    The Tribune has a very interesting quote (note second paragraph Obama indeed throws Rezko under the bus; gosh it's summertime and with all that crowd must be suffocating under there)

    Rezko's guilty verdict on 16 of 24 corruption counts could have broad repercussions for Blagojevich, who made Rezko a central player in his kitchen cabinet. It could also prove a political liability for U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, who once counted Rezko as a friend and fundraiser, as the likely Democratic presidential nominee heads into the general election campaign against Republican John McCain.

    "I'm saddened by today's verdict," Obama said Wednesday. "This isn't the Tony Rezko I knew, but now he has been convicted by a jury on multiple charges that once again shine a spotlight on the need for reform. I encourage the General Assembly to take whatever steps are necessary to prevent these kinds of abuses in the future."

    As if he didn't know.... Please .... If you don't know about this; watch NBC Local Reporting on some of this  

    It is shameful what it was done to these poor people; no heating in Chicago's winter.   This was Obama's district.

    Sorry, but not much integrity here.

     

    RNC has just put out its first (5.00 / 1) (#257)
    by gabbyone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:59:00 PM EST
    Obama's honest and has integrity? (3.66 / 3) (#210)
    by Anne on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:57:56 PM EST
    I'm sorry, but I don't agree; a person of honesty and integrity would not have done the despicable things this man has done throughout the campaign.  I'm not going to bother to list them, because we all know what they were.

    Obama's told multiple versions of his relationship with Tony Rezko; it seems like someone who had nothing to hide would not have had to do that.  He's done the same thing with Ayers and Auchi and Wright; that's a pattern I'm not very comfortable with.

    Maybe all Obama is guilty of is being a user of the first order, someone who seeks out people who can serve as rungs on the ladder he needs to reach his ultimate goals.  All I can say is, I hope he likes the view, because his practice is to kick out those rungs once he's moved up - and a fall from atop that ladder is going to be a pretty hard one without any rungs to rest on on the way down.

    If Obama not having been convicted - or even accused - of any crimes is the standard for judging his honesty and integrity, all I can say is, that's a bar that's set a little too low for me, and I suspect, for millions of other Americans.  

    Sorry if this violates any of the rules, but I could not let these things go unchallenged.

    Agreed. (5.00 / 1) (#235)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:37:59 PM EST
    Where was this honor and integrity during Sen. Obama's South Carolina debate with Hillary Clinton, when he publicly and disingenuously minimized his relationship with Tony Rezko by claiming that as a law firm associate he had merely represented a church group that had partnered with Rezko, and that he only worked on the matter for five hours?

    And as of February 1 of this year, Sen. Obama donated to charity approximmately $157,835 in Rezko-linked contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign, and he's since called his family's convoluted real estate deal with Tony and Rita Rezko "boneheaded."

    But guess what, Jeralyn? He and his family still live in that faux-Georgian mansion in Hyde Park. And today, we're all watching him wield the political clout that Tony Rezko clearly helped him to attain.

    There is nothing honorable about Obama's relationship with Rezko, be it professional, personal or otherwise. And frankly, I fail to see the political integrity involved repeatedly disclosing just enough about the matter to get the critics off your back and yourself over the next electoral hill.

    Well that may be about to end. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the jury's verdict, Jeralyn, surely you can't help but agree that the verdict certainly invites closer media scrutiny of our now-presumed nominee, if and when that media chooses to do so.

    And at this point, all I can say here is that for the Democratic Party's sake, there better not be any more shoes waiting to drop.

    [ Parent ]

    Just one count? (none / 0) (#14)
    by masslib on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:55:05 PM EST
    Huh.

    Fox News is saying guilty (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Boston Boomer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:00:17 PM EST
    on 16 counts.


    [ Parent ]
    Guilty on 16 of 26 counts so far (none / 0) (#30)
    by swiss473 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:58:26 PM EST
    nm

    I can't get in to ChiTrib site--hammered? (none / 0) (#31)
    by jawbone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:58:41 PM EST


    SunTImes: Guilty on 16 (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by jawbone on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:01:07 PM EST
    guilty on 16 charges against him -- including mail and wire fraud -- and not guilty of eight charges.

    [ Parent ]
    Jeralyn (none / 0) (#33)
    by americanincanada on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:58:57 PM EST
    Is it possible for Rezko to mitigate his sentence by implicating Obama in something?

    Heck yeah, anything is possible (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by angie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:01:07 PM EST
    and the feds always like trading up for the bigger, sexier fish.

    [ Parent ]
    Oh, c'mon! For what? (5.00 / 2) (#191)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:30:36 PM EST
    Bad judgment?

    Well, okay -- really bad judgment about his 17-year personal and professional relationship with a now-convicted felon?

    All right, you got me -- really, really bad judgment about his failure to disclose to the public and Democratic voters in a timely manner the particular nature of his 17-year personal and professional relationship with a now-convicted felon?

    (Whew!) There! I think that about covers it.

    Now, what did you say?

    [ Parent ]

    have you missed the last 8 years? (none / 0) (#239)
    by Salo on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:46:05 PM EST
    The president is going to control quite a bit more that you either think or pretend to think.  he will not sign bills that ruin his 2012 chances.

    UHC demands of the signatory the sacrifice of re-election prospects.  It's what happened to labour when they passed the NHS into law.

    [ Parent ]

    This isn't about quid pro quo. (none / 0) (#243)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:48:56 PM EST
    It's about his repeated failure to be forthright about his relationship with the man until pressed against the wall by circumstances.

    In the meantime, holding your hands up to your ears and saying "La, la, la ..." isn't an option here. It's not helpful to your candidate in particular, or to our party in general.  

    [ Parent ]

    Will Rezko sing for his sentence? (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:59:12 PM EST


    He could always (5.00 / 0) (#41)
    by LoisInCo on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:00:04 PM EST
    hold out for a Pardon.
    Fish, plankton, sea greens and protein from the sea.
    [ Parent ]
    Or a commutation (5.00 / 0) (#60)
    by madamab on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:03:05 PM EST
    a la Scooter Libby?

    [ Parent ]
    I think he'd have to sit (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:07:52 PM EST
    in jail for 5 years before the pardon would come.

    I suspect he prefers to sing if he has anything to sing about.

    [ Parent ]

    Hola... (4.00 / 4) (#57)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 04:02:09 PM EST
    now, get him for the Housing Projects and I will be happy.  

    [ Parent ]
    Nah... (none / 0) (#248)
    by NWHiker on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:57:34 PM EST
    Don't get him for the housing projects, make him spend a winter in one.

    [ Parent ]