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    Bebe is going for the reigns again (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:38:21 AM EST
    if he get them, look out.

    Aug. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Iran is on a path toward a ``major breakthrough'' in its nuclear program that is ``unacceptable,'' Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz told a Washington audience today.

    Shorter Shaul.... (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:45:36 AM EST
    "Silly Iranians...nukes are for Israelis!"

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    I still think this (5.00 / 0) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:47:14 AM EST
    could effect our own elections.

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    If we're still falling for.... (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:56:57 AM EST
    wag the dog and manufactured war we deserve all the crappy leadership we get.

    Apparently an idea was being tossed around the White House that we dress up some Navy SEALS like Iranians and shoot at them to start the next bloody war.  Link

    Figures...Cheney's idea.

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    RWA was this week... (5.00 / 0) (#3)
    by kredwyn on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:42:51 AM EST
    For those who didn't attend, paperback writer set up a "Left Behind and Loving It" series of writing oriented blog posts. She's also got a group of other LBLI folks who've kicked in with other writing oriented posts that vary from character to description to ummm...well...scenes of...hmmm...

    I've really enjoyed the whole thing...and some of the techniques seem pretty useful...

    War on Drugs.... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:43:16 AM EST
    or is it a war on dogs?

    It's so hard to tell with the bullets flying all over the place.

    Oh...and they've deputized turtles:)

    saw a very funny of that turtle (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:46:34 AM EST
    this morning with a doobie in his mouth.
    at least hes not a post turtle.

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    felt threatened by a dog running away from them? (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jjsmoof on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:56:38 AM EST
    sheesh.  good thing the hampster wasn't running in his wheel or he would've gotten too.

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    I honestly dont want to think to much (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:58:22 AM EST
    about what I would do if some moronic swat goons broke into my  house and killed my dog.

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    Definitely don't Captain.... (none / 0) (#75)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:05:37 PM EST
    because what justice demands will surely lead to you being in a cage or a casket yourself.

    And nobody at Talkleft wants that:)

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    Good thing... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:58:22 AM EST
    the mayor didn't run, he mighta got a few in the back himself.

    All over a box with some party supplies inside.  Madness, madness, madness.

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    taze (none / 0) (#30)
    by jjsmoof on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:14:29 AM EST
    no he might 'accidently' fall off a bridge and get tasered 19 times 'for his own safety'.

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    Oh man (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by sj on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:19:19 AM EST
    That just made me heartsick.  I can't believe standards have dropped so low that a SWAT team would hold a member whose first choice is to shoot the dog.  Any dog, but especially a Lab.  The one breed where (I think) sweetness of temperment is a dominant characteristic.

    That just makes me sick.  

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    I have thought for awhile now that (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:47:29 AM EST
    Hillary's strategy was to not make too many waves and wait for obama to implode.  Looks like it might happen and she will save the democratic party, much to the chagrin of dean, brazile, pelosi, and reid, et al.  For the sake of America, I truly hope it comes to pass.

    too late (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:51:51 AM EST
    honestly.  I think its to late for that.

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    Howdy/Palomino...I don't think I have ever (none / 0) (#28)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:13:23 AM EST
    disagreed with you, but this time I am...we shall wait and see :)

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    I sincerely hope you are right (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:17:57 AM EST
    and we are wrong.

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    Agreed. Too late. (none / 0) (#29)
    by davnee on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:13:56 AM EST
    It will take something catastrophic at this point.  Pity.  This country deserves better than Obama and McCain.  Then again, maybe we don't.

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    Gallup tracking poll a tie now (5.00 / 0) (#49)
    by Cream City on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:19:05 PM EST
    after heading down for days now.  Watch for a second poll to put McCain ahead and see how many here will say it's just another outlier, as they did for the first one.

    But superdelegates will require a bolt of lightning and the heavens opening and a plague of locusts laying waste the earth.  And there will be gnashing of teeth and rending of garments -- but there will not be a focus on the issues, which is what is needed.

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    I just don't think poll dips will do it (3.00 / 0) (#55)
    by davnee on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:26:16 PM EST
    You'd need an absolute crash in polling, clearly brought on by some kind of serious gaffe or revelation that would be seen universally as unrecoverable to get the SD's to defect en masse.  These are people largely without sense or courage, so I just don't see it happening.  Although, if he's down in the polls you might get some more significant dissent at the convention.  But at the end of the day the die is pretty much cast imo.

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    Here is my frustration (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Jjc2008 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:47:29 AM EST
    The ONLY way I see the democrats easily taking the WH this fall is if both Clinton and Obama are on the same ticket.  The dems UNITY, if it ever existed, is gone.  Half the voters are passionate for Obama, half are passionate about Hillary and there seems to be a passionate divide amongst them.

    I started out the primary as unsure of whether I would support Edwards or Clinton.  While I agreed with neither on the Iraq war, I certainly understood their thinking when the vote was taken.  In my mind, their vote made neither the war mongers some tried to frame around Hillary.  On all other topics I agreed pretty much with all the dems.  Kucinich was best on health care but living in a divided state, I know there is no way in h*ll that one can force single payer on the other half....they must be cajoled and persuaded.  THIS is democracy, NOT a dictatorship.

    But when the media and then the candidates started  using misogyny and/or sexism against Senator Clinton, I got angry.  Every button was pushed for me, a woman of Hillary's age who has been talked down to, insulted, overlooked by the men in charge.  

    Too many young people, and sadly too many young women are simply ignorant when it comes to sexism and misogyny.  They seem to think if it does not affect them it must not exist. Older women like me were both hurt and shocked by their attitude.

    Anyway, it is all moot now.  The damage is done. If Hillary manages to come back at the convention because of Obama's mistakes, the Obama supporters will go off the wall angry. Hillary's supporters have not yet gotten past our anger and resentment.
    I thought I would get over it.  But I haven't and honestly, the MSM and some of  the blogging community continue to feed the fires of my resentment.  

    In the end, I only see one sure fire win: Obama/Clinton  or Clinton/Obama.  

    Edwards (none / 0) (#18)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:57:06 AM EST
    I wont repeat the tabloid claims but it looks like it might be a good thing it was not Edwards.
    although if he had won he might have been to busy for the other (alleged) stuff.

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    Gore/Anybody (none / 0) (#33)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:32:53 AM EST
    If we want to start a thread about desirable and highly improbable tickets, I think we ought to rank them in from most probable to least probable.

    My rankings:
    1. Obama/Hillary
    2. Hillary/Obama
    .
    .
    .
    .
    n) Gore/Anybody

    It's good to dream.  Reality is such a bummer sometimes.

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    The Washington Times... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Dawn Davenport on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:04:11 PM EST
    ...reports that Sarah Palin's stock is rising as potential veep, partly for this reason.

    The McCain campaign isn't stupid--just look at their remarks about Obama's using race-baiting against the Clintons--and it would be a brilliant move on their part to choose Palin, troopergate warts and all.

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    regarding the topic of last thread (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by ghost2 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:52:06 AM EST
    Clinton said electing Obama is like rolling the dice.  He was right.

    Bill Clinton said, a McCain-Hillary matchup will be about the country and the issues.  I think he implied that a McCain-Obama matchup will be full of distractions, will be personality driven.... etc.

    Right again.


    as hard as the GOP and the MSM (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:55:13 AM EST
    would have tried to smear Hillary the voters have heard it all before.  they know Hillary well.  and now they are getting to know Obama well.

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    By the way, (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by ghost2 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:58:09 AM EST
    I think Cindy McCain should come out with her daughters and just say, "my family looks like America", we shall not be smeared.  

    Not to mention they have two sons in military service.  

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    I'm positive (none / 0) (#34)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:35:12 AM EST
    we'll see that later, probably post convention when things get serious.  

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    At the convention, on the stage (5.00 / 4) (#41)
    by Cream City on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:53:39 AM EST
    where America always gets to see the candidate's family.  But the McCain boys won't be flown home, at least not both of them.  Maybe one will be on leave.  The other, or both, on video with a message to his dad that he loves him, and so do the women and men in the military who are protecting us all, etc.

    Watch for it.  And then, watching the Obama rally that will be about him -- it just won't tug at the heartstrings the same way, now, will it?

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    More on the anthrax saga.... (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:50:03 AM EST
    Do not miss this post (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:22:35 PM EST
    Steve....WOW.....thanks (none / 0) (#68)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:47:47 PM EST
    who will save us from the media?

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    The remote control and the mouse.... (5.00 / 0) (#71)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:54:55 PM EST
    can save us...turn the motherf*ckers off and stop listening.

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    Is it normal for authorities to notify a murder- (none / 0) (#106)
    by jawbone on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 06:34:22 PM EST
    terra suspect's lawyer well in advance that the guy is about to be arrested on several extremely serious charges?

    Is that usual and customer in law enforcement?

    It strikes me as somehow being, well, negligent.

    And, pills? Okaaaaaaay....

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    Why? (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:55:26 AM EST
    That's my reaction.  If Obama wants the best person for the job of POTUS, then Hillary Clinton ought to top the list.

    If the job description is "Help Obama win the election and then play fetch and carry." I suggest he nominate a dog.

    Ladies and gentleman, (5.00 / 0) (#53)
    by NJDem on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:23:41 PM EST
    we have a tie

    Last week everyone said the verdict on the overseas tour would bare out by the end of the week.  Much has happened this week, but I think this poll is some food for thought...

    Also the unintended consequence (5.00 / 0) (#57)
    by ruffian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:30:54 PM EST
    of McCain being the first to use the pictures of adoring crowds in an ad - against Obama. I'm sure the Obama campaign was planning to use those later.  I'm wondering if the well has been tainted now.

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    OK, I'll play (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by samanthasmom on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:30:43 PM EST
    Truth in advertising - I don't want Hillary to be chosen as VP

    Ready and competent to step in as POTUS should something happen to Obama should always be the most important litmus test for VP.

    But that aside - If Obama would choose Kathleen Sebelius to be his VP if she were Kevin Sebelius instead, then by all means he should pick her. If he's choosing her because she's a woman, then I would like him to be clear why she is a better choice than Hillary. When those reasons are made known, then the Clinton supporters could decide if she is a good choice or just a woman who isn't Hillary.
    As far as the men on his list go, Obama's credibility on women's reproductive rights has been damaged by statements he has made during the campaign so I think his running mate needs to solidly and unequivocally pro-choice. That would help clear up any misunderstanding that some women have about Obama's position. To choose someone like Kaine reinforces that Obama is wishy-washy.


    Never wanted Hillary in second place (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:37:47 PM EST
    behind someone who is so obviously inferior in experience and judgment.

    Don't care one bit who he puts on the ticket with him, if he actually gets the nomination at the convention, that is.

    Obama is not ready to be president of anything, so how will a VP choice change that?


    If he is defensible, why not tell the truth? (5.00 / 0) (#82)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:36:50 PM EST
    The comment was referring to race, not time in Washington.

    So, is the Obama campaign strategy going to continue on as: Deny everything until the story dies down, but people have set their opinions in stone, and THEN (but only then) admit the accusations and first impressions were actually the truth.

    This has been going on so long I am convinced the polls are as rigged as the primary was and the real numbers are Obama behind by double digits.

    Just remember, MOST of the SD's are the elected officials who are making major decisions for us.


    Hm (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by chrisvee on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:50:38 PM EST
    We haven't made it to the convention yet but the race may be tied even after Obama's triumphant European tour and a less than stellar performance thus far by the McCain campaign.  And we still have the worst of the campaign ahead of us. The tactics that won the primary are turning out to be tactics that are endangering the general.

    Red alert, everyone. It's going to be a bumpy ride.  Honestly, it's imperative to have Hillary on the ticket. This thing needs to be turned around now.

    oh, so glad there is still room here (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:14:20 PM EST
    check out the One

    the new McCain ad.  but make sure you dont have a mouthfull of anything that you dont want on your keyboard.

    Day-ummmm!!!! Brutal snark, but nothing which has (5.00 / 0) (#97)
    by jawbone on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:33:55 PM EST
    not been said during the primaries.

    I think they were inspired by that British piece?

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    Ohnotheydi'int! (none / 0) (#107)
    by LatinoVoter on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:46:39 PM EST
    That was one massive take down. They should have added the clips of Michelle saying that our souls are broken. And asked "He can heal souls but can he run the country?"

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    Obama's Big Oil excess profits tax--and rebates of (5.00 / 0) (#96)
    by jawbone on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:30:20 PM EST
    %500 for single taxpayers, $1000 for couples filing jointly.

    Gee, less than one month's oil bill--and, iirc, oil is primarily used in rural areas and the Northeast part of the country.

    Now I know natural gas is going up, but heating oil tends to follow diesel fuel costs. Diesel has been running ahead of gasoline for quite awhile. If the industry decides to make a bit more diesel, that price may come down a tad, but then heating oil usually rises commensurately.

    Cold rooms coming, gang.

    (Welcome aboard the excess profits tax, Senator.)

     

    5 hundo.... (5.00 / 0) (#99)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:50:37 PM EST
    won't even pay for one fill-up of heating oil...not even close...exactly right.

    I don't see a government-based solution...it's gonna have to be people based.  Set the thermostat lower. Look at alternative heat sources.  Form a community-based buying group and negotiate for better prices.

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    Does anyone know whether Obama was adopted by (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by jawbone on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:39:20 PM EST
    his mother's second husband?

    I've been curious about his relationship with his stepfather, and Soetero seems to have been disappeared from the narrative. Altho, I gather, Obama wrote some things about him in his first book.

    Just curious.

    I don't think I've ever known a candidate who's background is so mysterious. I have never found a date for his mother's second marriage--sometime in 1965-66 is the closest I've seen. Nor a date for the divorce. Either divorce.

    I don't think there's anything negative, but I don't see why it's so hush-hush.

    saw this guy on fox last night (5.00 / 0) (#100)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:54:42 PM EST
    saying some pretty incredible things that he says are factual.  he is the right winger who has the Obama Nation book coming out.  actually it is the same guy who did the swiftboat book.
    now, like I said, FOX, so take from it what you will but he was making some pretty stunning claims about his real father in particular.
    I will not repeat them here but Im sure they are a google away and Im sure they will be explored fully over the next 90 days.


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    If obama was adopted and received a (1.00 / 0) (#101)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 04:19:47 PM EST
    new birth certificate, or he has had dual citizenship, obama will not be eligible to be president.

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    oooh Sher, you never fail to come through (none / 0) (#104)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 05:47:20 PM EST
    Check the facts before you downrate...

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    It seem this hasn't been posted yet (4.00 / 1) (#73)
    by NJDem on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:04:40 PM EST
    "Obama Aide Concedes 'Dollar Bill' Remark Referred to His Race"

    link

    ...as if we hadn't had enough of this topic today :)


    Founding Fathers: K Street Insiders! (5.00 / 0) (#83)
    by Joan in VA on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:45:23 PM EST
    revelation on Huffpo didn't work? Pity.

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    More bad news on the job front (none / 0) (#2)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:39:58 AM EST
    Although gas is down to $3.90

    How is that cheap again?

    I am always highly suspicious whenever gas prices drop mid-summer.  Last time that happened was 2006 when they spiked again in late November...

    jobs (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Jlvngstn on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:01:25 AM EST
    will continue to worsen through the end of this year and we will be over 6% easily.  We still have the credit crisis which is separate from the housing crisis that has not flushed out yet.  Our deficit is too high to apply Keynesian principles for a recovery and with higher unemployment and less spending, there will be gov't layoffs as well.  We are in a sour pickle that is moving toward a prolonged recession. Without the 90 billion band aid from the gov't we could call this a recession officially.  they could do 3 more rebates and it won't solve the problems of the economy.  Job creation is the only way to address the ongoing credit/housing crisis and we are cutting jobs at too high a pace.  Job creation programs allow people to work o.t. and simply work which help them pay down their debt which eases the credit crisis.  Without job creation, credit crisis will become much worse and recession will be a long one.  The sickness of the economy is being overshadowed by the steadiness of the market which is stabilized by companies announcing restructures (layoffs) to cut costs and maintain shareholder value.  Look for the market to stumble heavily in Sept and Oct right before the election (more in Oct) and fear the October Monday doomsday scenario.  Had we not gone to war the government ala keynesian philosophy could be investing reserves into infrastructure thus creating millions of jobs and killing the credit crisis in its tracks.  As it stands, we blew that cash and have very limited options to help the american people.  The war was bad on a lot of fronts but the damage it has done to the US financially is bloody awful.  Obama has been overseas building credibility for the debates to come and has some great quotes from foreign dignitaries that he will use in the debates.  He has lost ground because of his being overseas but will regain that and more because he is now safe from foreign policy criticism.  He needs to present a solid economic recovery/job creation program within the next 6 weeks (after all the rebate checks are spent and people are still in debt looking for the right answer which is job creation).  Hillary could help him immensely with that.

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    More people might choose to live.... (5.00 / 0) (#80)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:28:13 PM EST
    like this guy, with hard and harder times on the horizon.

    I give him mad props for living on his own terms...figures he has to break the law to do it, this is America after all.

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    Sometimes I have thought the government (none / 0) (#87)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:06:52 PM EST
    is sometimes part and parcel of why people turn to criminal behavior.  Not condoning it, but it is a thought.

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    I give you Ayn Rand.... (5.00 / 0) (#89)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:15:53 PM EST
    There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

    Alotta truth in that...

    The only criminal behavior here is the prohibtion, by threat of violence and/or extortion, of pitching a tent in an unoccupied open space and catching some z's.  

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    kdog....thanks for sharing. (none / 0) (#91)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:37:01 PM EST
    Thank you.... (5.00 / 0) (#93)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:51:23 PM EST
    I look for reasons to post that quote...a personal fav.

    And I dug back into Atlas Shrugged yesterday, the source of that slice of wisdom, after putting it down for awhile to read other things...it's a long arse novel, after another 300 pages yesterday I'm still ony half-way there:)

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    kdog....glad to help (none / 0) (#94)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 03:12:16 PM EST
    Tyranny alert.... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:52:40 AM EST
    can someone explain why this poor slob can't sell his milk and cheese to willing customers?

    Link

    He let his permit expire (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:41:58 AM EST
    deliberately.

    Zero sympathy here.  All he had to do was to follow the rules, which he had been doing.  

    There is a real risk of Listeria contamination in raw milk and raw milk products.  Not a big issue for most people, but potentially huge for pregnant women.

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    Don't we the people... (none / 0) (#48)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:15:27 PM EST
    bear some responsibility for our own lives?

    Aren't we quite capable of weighing the risk/reward ratio of a particular food stuff?

    I'm fine with the government making suggestions and posting warnings...but the ultimate decision whether to buy and sell raw cheese should reside with every free American individual.

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    Part of his problem is that (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by eric on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:47:39 AM EST
    he believes that "the Constitution clearly spells out we have the right [to] do private business."

    Not so much.  That ended in 1937.  And despite what happened to this poor guy, food regulations tend to be good things.  A little common sense is needed, however.

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    There's hardcore libertarians (none / 0) (#40)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:52:06 AM EST
    who would love to do away with the FDA.  They scare me.

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    Indeed (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by eric on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:58:11 AM EST
    And if you follow this guy's logic, there would be nothing stopping him from selling liquor or cigarettes or guns or whatever without a permit and to whomever he wants.

    If this guy wants a better argument, I would suggest that he argues that his religion prohibits him from buying the permit.  At least then he is triggering an actual right that exists under the constitution.  Not a winning argument, but at least it isn't absurd.

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    If the law forbids.... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:11:23 PM EST
    this guy from selling cheese without a permission slip, the law is the absurdity in my book.

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    A hot dog vendor (5.00 / 2) (#59)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:32:00 PM EST
    with a push cart on a sidewalk has to have a permit.

    What I love about hard line libertarians is that they figure that the market will solve everything.  Well, the market never brought the dead back to life or restored the injured to health.  Not to mention that suing someone only works if they actually have assets.  

    I've worked in health care.  It makes me a firm believer in prevention.  It's cheaper, more efficient and better for everybody.  

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    I don't believe the hot-dog vendor.... (5.00 / 0) (#65)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:40:55 PM EST
    should need a permission slip to make a living either.  Do you know how shady the permit bueracracy is...full of favors and bribes and who ya know?  Just like the rest of our supposed "free" market.

    I guess it all depends on what you value more...liberty or safety.  That's a no-brainer for me...always err on the side of individual liberty.

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    You mean the same FDA... (none / 0) (#44)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:05:34 PM EST
    that classifies marijuana as a highly addictive drug with no legitimate medical uses?

    You can have 'em friend...I'll take my chances in a big, bad, dangerous, free society.  No FDA is better than a corrupted, partisan, full of sh*t FDA.

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    Never did understand (none / 0) (#60)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:34:41 PM EST
    the hang up about pot.  If it was so important to people, the Netherlands would the most densely populated country in the world!

    I prefer the legal drugs.

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    Why are some legal and weed isn't? (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Joan in VA on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:05:21 PM EST
    Because Big Pharma makes alot of money selling them and they pass some of that on to pols. The gov't. makes money from cigs and alcohol-hence legal drugs. There is no reason for weed to be illegal and it's surprising that the gov't. isn't selling it and taxing it. They could use the revenue. Guess they just can't back down now. Just say no!

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    Another example of the rigged market... (none / 0) (#76)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:08:34 PM EST
    Washingtom bueracrats acting as no better than your run of the mill mafia protection racket for Big Pharma.

    Squeezing out the competition through government muscle as opposed to gangster muscle...what the hell is the difference?

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    It's important to me.... (none / 0) (#67)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:43:14 PM EST
    why should I have to move to Amsterdam for a particular brand of freedom...I thought I was born in the land of the free.

    If you enjoyed pot, you'd understand how aggravating it is to be denied your basic human rights by threat of extortion or violence.

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    Basic human rights? (none / 0) (#108)
    by Fabian on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 05:50:41 AM EST
    Well....I've got a long list of basic human rights that come before legal recreational drugs.  Now if you proved that cannabis cured cancer or clinical depression, I might change my mind.  

    Geez, the smart thing to do would be to gene splice ability to produce cannibinoids into something  common like dandelions or bluegrass.  Then you have an unrestricted and unrestrictable supply.  Easy enough.  (Okay, it would take millions of dollars - but it's for a good cause, no?)

    People are always thinking inside the box.  Silly people.  

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    Strange (none / 0) (#15)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:56:15 AM EST
    Yesterday I saw at the grocery store that you can't use  manufacturer's coupons for milk either.  It seemed like a MA thing, but I wonder why.  We are far from the days of glass bottles being delivered...

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    Come to Ohio! (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:49:08 AM EST
    Hartzler Dairy delivers milk in glass bottles to stores throughout the state.  Pasteurized, cream top milk!  The deposit on the glass bottles is killer though - you'll remember to bring them back because it's way more than $0.25 a bottle.

    They make a great chocolate milk.  No corn syrup and minimal additives.  Thick and rich without that slimy feel from the thickeners, emulsifiers and stabilizers.  It's the only chocolate milk I can drink.  Then there's the holiday egg nog.  I like it and I don't even like egg nog!

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    You just made me hungry (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:53:41 PM EST
    Now I really want some egg nog.  I love egg nog, in small doses.

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    Border Policy (none / 0) (#19)
    by squeaky on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:58:00 AM EST
    This is not so new but the rules have been clarified. I posted this last night and got a bit of snark back, about pocket lint and Charlton Heston.

    Anyway it does seem, after reading the article again, that apart from all writing including "pocket trash", DNA samples can be retained from a hairbrush, let's say, without any warrant or even suspicion of wrongdoing.

    Ben Masel recently commented that his bag was lost on a flight, and when it was returned the only thing missing was his hairbrush and that was a domestic flight.

    Federal agents may take a traveler's laptop computer or other electronic device to an off-site location for an unspecified period of time without any suspicion of wrongdoing, as part of border search policies the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed.

    nothing new, we heard all about this before.

    but this is news to me:

    The policies cover "any device capable of storing information in digital or analog form," including hard drives, flash drives, cellphones, iPods, pagers, beepers, and video and audio tapes. They also cover "all papers and other written documentation," including books, pamphlets and "written materials commonly referred to as 'pocket trash' or 'pocket litter.' "

    Reasonable measures must be taken to protect business information and attorney-client privileged material, the policies say, but there is no specific mention of the handling of personal data such as medical and financial records.

    When a review is completed and no probable cause exists to keep the information, any copies of the data must be destroyed. Copies sent to non-federal entities must be returned to DHS. But the documents specify that there is no limitation on authorities keeping written notes or reports about the materials.

    WaPo

    Another way of datamining, not so different from the warrantless wiretaps scandal, imo.

    Manny Ramirez (none / 0) (#24)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:04:27 AM EST
    Officially no longer with the red sox.

    I am torn, but I think this is probably for the best.

    Now Manny can be Manny in L.A.

    Don't fret too much. Jason Bay is a really good (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptainAmerica08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:08:17 AM EST
    player, and he may be even better on a team that can actually play.

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    Not fretting (none / 0) (#27)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:12:47 AM EST
    I trust Theo completely.  It's just that you get attached to players, even ones like Manny who drive you nuts.  Maybe especially ones like Manny who drive you nuts.

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    I think the Sox.... (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:08:44 PM EST
    got raped on that one.

    They couldn't even swing Bay for Manny straight up while paying Manny's salary...they had to throw another player in.  

    I see Big Poppy's production dropping without Manny protecting him in the line-up.

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    Figure of speech.... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:25:46 PM EST
    no offense intended.

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    Well (none / 0) (#61)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:35:52 PM EST
    we'll see.  I think the sox will be just fine.  They survived without Ortiz for half the season already.  Plus Jason Bay has more HR and RBIs than Manny this season.  I was surprised we gave up Hansen and Moss, but like I said, I have faith that Theo knows what he's doing.  Manny's personality was a liability, and it was gonna affect the trade.  I wish him well in LA though, I hope he's happy there.  Just glad it wasn't NY...

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    Hey are the Dodgers like some Red Sox (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptainAmerica08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:40:12 PM EST
    wasteland of former Sox legends or something? Nomar, D Lowe, and now Manny?

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    You wouldn't have minded... (none / 0) (#69)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:50:24 PM EST
    the Mets would ya?

    I would have loved to have had Manny in Orange and Blue, the guy flat out hits.

    We shall see if it pans out...just beat the Yanks!

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    The Mets (none / 0) (#72)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:58:19 PM EST
    Are ok.  Used to hate them, but after winning the world series twice it's a lot easier to cut them slack for the 86 series (yes people here held a grudge about that right up until 2004).  Now it's almost like we're on the same side, against the Yanks.

    You may have noticed that Pedro always got cheered in Fenway with the Mets, but Johnny Damon will be forever booed.

    I could definitely have seen Manny with the Mets, he's from Brooklyn, loves NY, and Yankees fans hate him.


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    1986..... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:12:24 PM EST
    we're stilling living off that glory 20+ years later.

    ESPN has been running some cool articles about great years in sports...check out 1986...what a postseason, perhaps the best ever.

    2004 made the cut too.

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    Funny thing is (none / 0) (#78)
    by CST on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:21:51 PM EST
    I don't even remember 1986, I just turned 2 for that series...

    But I do remember hating the mets for years because of what happened in 1986.

    2004 was incredible, especially after what happened in 2003.

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    LOL.... (none / 0) (#81)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:33:25 PM EST
    I was 9 and remember every member of the family, including myself, giving up with 2 strikes and 2 outs and nobody on in game 6, already wallowing in our sorrows...except for my dear sister sitting on a folding chair 6 inches from the tv chanting "you can do it, you can do it" over and over.

    And I'll be damned, they did it...and my sister lets none of us forget who was the one who never gave up.

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    Why, oh why, must Manny now be (none / 0) (#79)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:22:06 PM EST
    in the NL West?  Aren't the Pads enough in the cellar already?

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    Maybe the Dodgers.... (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:55:29 PM EST
    will join the D-Backs as the only division members over 500...NL West is pretty sad this year:)

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    Tell me about it. Will be fun to (none / 0) (#90)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:33:54 PM EST
    see Manny play though.

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    Rasmussen has some poll info I don't like. (none / 0) (#26)
    by tigercourse on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 11:10:12 AM EST
    At this point in 2004 John Kerry was ahead of Bush by 5 points. Today, Obama is ahead of McCain by 1. The main variable is that in 04, the convention had already happened, so Obama might have plenty of room to grow.

    Still, I don't like to see our nominee doing worse then a guy who lost.

    Gallup tracking poll a tie now (5.00 / 0) (#50)
    by Cream City on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:20:24 PM EST
    as noted above, sorry for duplication -- but it fits better here.  The trend has been down, down, down for Obama.  The brilliant campaign had better do something at least smart, but fast.

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    Only picking Hillary would get me enthusiastic (none / 0) (#62)
    by ruffian on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:36:22 PM EST
    about helping Obama win.

    Picking Wes Clark = almost as good.

    Any other qualified, progressive man = lukewarm support.

    Kathleen Sibelius = insulted, very sulky on election day, considering options, but probably will vote for Obama.

    Claire McCaskill or Chuck Hagel: I'll treat it like another Tuesday in November, or vote for Nader.

    I think your (none / 0) (#103)
    by Jjc2008 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 05:14:05 PM EST
    words reflect my feelings exactly.  Thank you for saving me some typing.

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    My bet (none / 0) (#66)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 12:42:43 PM EST
    is that Hillary said no.

    If Hillary was willing, it would be the stupidest thing on earth for him to reject her.

    She said no.

    Agree (none / 0) (#102)
    by nell on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 04:45:49 PM EST
    If she wanted VP, I don't think Bill would have been MIA, save for the 27 word statement he released...yes, it is about Hillary because she was the candidate, but I think Bill would have been out front offering his enthusiastic support if Hillary wanted to be part of the ticket, he would have to do this. I think his silence speaks volumes about the unity charade.

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    Comfy bums in a time of war?? (none / 0) (#84)
    by professorWagstaff on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:55:23 PM EST
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/07/the_air_forces_use_of.html

    I thought that America was materialistic but geez. The Chair Force has really done it this time. Why would they take funds from the War on Terror and put it towards big screen T.V.'s and your how your ass fits in a chair? The fact that the U.S. military is considering these High Class air pods is so scurvy and unnecessary, while totally defacing the sacrifices our young American's have made for this holy war, I am surprised there isn't more hubub about this. I don't see it on CCN or Fox news. Only on NPR and the Washington Post so far... Happy Friday.
    -Prof.Wagstaff  

    Food for thought....things that make you (none / 0) (#88)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:10:35 PM EST
    go hmmmmmm??  A Double Agent...ohhhhh noooooo

    link

    Hilarious House Comedy (none / 0) (#105)
    by squeaky on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 06:02:19 PM EST
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House and turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are still on the floor talking gas prices.

    Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment motion passed at 11:23 a.m. and are busy bashing Pelosi and her fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess.

    waaaah poor babies....