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Wednesday Night Open Thread

It's busy around here. My Flip Mino video recorder arrived today and I'm setting it up. The e-mails related to the convention are multiplying hourly, now well in excess of 100 a day, bringing my overall e-mail count to more than 300 daily.

The logistics are a bit overwhelming. Denver is just not a walking town and while everyone keeps talking about Downtown, not everything is in what we think of as downtown, including the Pepsi Center, Invesco, and a lot of venues where events are being held. So figuring out how to travel light with equipment is a challenge. [More...]

I'm trying to figure out what laptop to use for the convention. I really don't feel like bringing my newest and best one, or my Macbook, so I may go with my tiniest Sony that only weighs 3 pounds. But I haven't used it in so long that I need to update all the programs, load new ones and remove all my work and personal files in case it gets separated from me.

Any thoughts on what you'd like to see me cover during the convention would be helpful.

Okay, dinnertime now. While I'm otherwise occupied, here's an open thread for you, all topics welcome.

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    cover anything not televised mostly (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by DandyTIger on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:51:53 PM EST
    I think since we can watch some things on TV. Especially any hallway or other out of TV sight activities. And just the feel of everything. And of course any dirt or gossip. :-) But also even some things televised, how it really feels on the floor and how things come across. And of course everything Hillary :-)

    Everything Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:03:50 PM EST
    Yes, I second that. Especially those celebration parties and marches in honor of her candidacy.

    I don't trust CNN or any other network to cover those adequately.

    Oh, and all the star sightings. I hear Denver will be Ground Zero for not only the biggest names in American politics, but also the brightest music, movie and media stars.

    You never know who you'll bump into at a street corner, or in a diner restroom (lol) ...

    Sorry, I'm being very shameless and starry-eyed with my requests, aren't I?

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    ...or in a detention cell...maybe Martin (none / 0) (#52)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:38:05 PM EST
    Sheen :)

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    Subway tales... (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by jedimom on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:18:31 PM EST
    hey I actually DID bump into Martin Sheen on the subway in NYC once, mom made me ask for his autograph, I was like 13 and didnt know him, my mom kept saying Apocolypse Now, which of course I wasnt allowed to watch too young, LOL

    he was incredibly nice and when the pen was out of ink waited for me to get another one and he asked my name, LOL, as a kid you remember things like that, a very gracious man

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    Jedimom.....how cool is that? I have met (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:34:31 PM EST
    many celebrities and have had good experiences 98% of the time....the strangest one, Kevin Spacey.  The absolute nicest and most fun, Drew Carey.  We were side by side in our cars talking to each other.

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    Oh, come on! (5.00 / 2) (#129)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:54:38 PM EST
    Tell! How was Kevin Spacey strange?

    One of these days when things get slow, we ought to have a "brush with greatness" thread about those brief encounters with famous people.  I could tell about the time Leonard Bernstein picked me up hitchhiking!


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    I've had three (5.00 / 1) (#152)
    by dissenter on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:34:04 AM EST
    A friend of mine was tasked with picking up Ashley Judd at the airport. She couldn't find her so she called me in a panic (she wasn't sure what she looked like lol). So, I go to DIA and I recognize her but just barely. She was rude, travels with a dog (that later pissed all over the Brown Palace) but mostly she looks totally different without all her make up. She looks very un movie star like in real life. Score one for the average woman. I laughed all the way home.

    Another encounter was on the street in DC. It was a sunday and I had to work so I went to the office. I took my dog cuz the building is a little scary on the weekend. Anyway, I walk out the door and can't cross the street because Mikhail Gorbachev's motorcade is coming through. Suddenly the vehicles stop and the man gets out of the car. I'm looking around like what is going on but me and my dog are the only ones on the street so I'm really confused. Anyway, the leader of the Soviet Union walks over to me and pets my dog:) He asks me her name and unbelievably the only thing I know how to say in Russian is "my dog's name is rebel". I learned that from a Russian tennis player lol. The translator was astounded, Gorbachev started laughing, shook my hand and drove off to the embassy.

    The third encounter was when I was walking down the street reading the newspaper. I wasn't paying attention and suddenly I ran smack into someone - almost knocking us both down. It turned out to be Vaclav Havel. He laughed at me too:

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    I'd pay to hear that story! (none / 0) (#132)
    by shoephone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:58:46 PM EST
    He made such a big deal of trying to be (none / 0) (#145)
    by PssttCmere08 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:59:08 AM EST
    inconspicuous, that he was waaaaay conspicuous...eyes darting everywhere, kept pulling his hat down lower and lower.  I went up to him and just told him how much I enjoyed his work, he said thanks and turned away...

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    Yes, pls tell about K. Spacey.. (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by sociallybanned on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:34:49 AM EST
    I've met Tyra Banks at Downtown Disney and IMO, she was rude.  I met ShaQ and he was exceptionally nice.  I would see Joey Fantone every Friday at my daughter's gymnastics.  His daughter I think was a level 2 or 3.  Never said a word to him and while some of the other moms were gaulking over him, I thought he wasn't good looking.  

    I would love to meet Edward Norton!  

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    I don't think Banks is beautiful. (none / 0) (#143)
    by MarkL on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:36:29 AM EST
    I have never met Shaq, but have met (none / 0) (#146)
    by PssttCmere08 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:00:42 AM EST
    Dennis Rodman, and he was quite fun and nice.

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    Dennis: (none / 0) (#148)
    by sociallybanned on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:20:57 AM EST
    I bet he was fun!  I would love to meet Mario Lopez... I got a thing for latin men.  

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    I leave for vacation (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:52:30 PM EST
    Friday morning and in my infinite wisdom I haven't even come close to contemplating packing. I haven't done laundry in forever and I'm not even sure where my bikini is. The last major vacation I took I was still packing on my way out the door. Obvious, I RULE at planning ahead of time.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for books, audiobooks, movies, shows, music? It's a 6 hour plane ride and I have various media devices at my disposal, but I can't decide on anything right now.

    May I recommend (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:31:33 PM EST
    Armisted Maupin's "Michael Tolliver Lives"? It came out last year but just became available in paperback this summer.

    Easy and fun read.  Maupin is famous for his "Tales of the City" series and Michael Tolliver was one of the principal characters.

    I read this book when I flew to Portland last month.  I missed my connecting flight in DENVER (props to JM) and sat in the airport for 3 hours.  Great companion.  

    I also bought the Scott McClellan tell-all book.  It's good too as long as you can stomach the first few chapters of Bush-worship.  Then he gets to the nitty-gritty.

    My summer reading list was short this year.  Too much work and totally addicted to TL.  I hope I am NOT the only one who sometimes reads ALL 200+ comments on compelling threads!

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    Easy and fun read (none / 0) (#98)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:48:27 PM EST
    is exactly what I need. Thanks for the rec, I'm going to check it out tomorrow. If not for the plane, for the beach. I'm going to Hawaii and I'm not sure what I'm going to do with myself. I'm not much of a beach girl. I like cities and winter wonderlands (I do snow sports).

    I spent 12 hours in the Denver airport during some crazy winter storm layover. It's a nice airport ;)


    totally addicted to TL.  

    Me too!


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    Do you know you can (5.00 / 0) (#75)
    by Xanthe on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:17:25 PM EST
    now load books on tape from your public library website.  Why not get a really good political book - fiction or not?  Or a good mystery.  My favorite mystery writer is Donna Leon and her excellent Venetian detective, Comissario Brunetti.  What is it about women writers and their male detectives - I've fallen in love with most all of them.

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    Thanks! (none / 0) (#94)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:45:40 PM EST
    I didn't know that! I was thinking about a political book, but I don't want to have to strike up a conversation with the person next to me about politics. But an ebook would be great.

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    If you like political fiction - (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Xanthe on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:23:25 PM EST
    read The Last Hurrah by Frank O'Connor - a masterpiece about a Boston politician - Spencer Tracy played title role in the movie.

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    So many ebooks now, it's wonderful (none / 0) (#166)
    by Cream City on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 09:43:41 AM EST
    as a suggestion.  Don't forget oldies.  I'm fond of rereading classics from history.  I cannot read often enough the autobiography of Black Hawk, a fairly brief read but fascinating and so sad in what it tells us of what was here and what was lost.  If you don't know the story of the Black Hawk Massacre on the banks of the Mississippi in our Midwestern Trail of Tears, as hundreds of women and children were attempting to cross to safety, read it from their leader's perspective.

    Btw, a fascinating historical tidbit:  Three future presidents were in the federal troops and local militia that massacred Black Hawk's people.  Zachary Taylor, Abraham Lincoln -- and Jefferson Davis.

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    You mean someone's (none / 0) (#133)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:59:36 PM EST
    still writing about male detectives?  I'm a longstanding feminist, but I'm so tired of plucky heroine detectives I could scream!

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    f you want to really scream (none / 0) (#139)
    by Fabian on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:18:20 AM EST
    there's the fanfic series that Charlaine Harris writes.

    Her main character is constantly sought out for various reasons (including romantic ones) by powerful and often sexy men.  It's....weird.

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    Read Donna Leon - (none / 0) (#162)
    by Xanthe on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:10:37 AM EST
    set in Venice where she lives.  But her books are not published there.  She is an American.

    The Brits write about strong, complicated men -  

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    You won't finish the whole thing on the plane (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by shoephone on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:17:15 AM EST
    but one of my all-time favorite books (and a fairly short read) is Graham Greene's Travels With My Aunt.

    Talk about yer iconoclastic female characters...

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    Really, really good earphones (none / 0) (#9)
    by Cream City on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:14:08 PM EST
    were my spouse's gift to me last year, before we took off for our annual Mexico trek in winter.  But I tend to arrive so frazzled from the awful experience of flying these days that it takes a day to recover -- or more, if the stress or teeny tiny seats now gets to my (bad) back.  Or the college drunks or the screaming babies or the engine whine that just sends me up the wall. . . .  

    I put on the headphones, I plugged the Ipod into them, I pulled out my pocket-size Sukoku.  Three hours later, when my spouse said we were there, I was stunned.  It seemed like only minutes.  And I was up for making the most of the first day, as soon as I could get sand between my toes.

    Looks like a trip to Europe may be next year.  I will put more music on the Ipod and pick up more pocket Sudoku.  And as ever, head to the local bookstore for the rack of used paperbacks at a buck apiece to just leave behind for other guests at our favorite spot.  Mysteries, lots of mind-candy mysteries.

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    Headphones! (none / 0) (#92)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43:27 PM EST
    I forgot that my dog ate my earbuds, so thanks for the reminder to buy new ones! Imagine getting on the plane and WHOOPS. Silly dog.

    I love Sudoku! I have Brain Age 1 & 2 for my Nintendo DS and they have Sudoku on them, I never play it on there, but I might on the plane. I'm hoping that the batteries on my electronics hold out. My ipod especially, I give it 3-4 hours.

    Take me to Europe!

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    I can't even imagine (none / 0) (#131)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:56:54 PM EST
    the agony of flying coach these days if you're one of those big guys over 6 feet.  I'm 5-7 and not overweight, and I feel like a sardine.

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    BTD (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:15:33 PM EST
    and Jeralyn, I just regained admiration for both of you by going to MYDD. Someone put up a diary with the new electoral college that had Obama losing and there were posters there who still think Obama is going win in a landslide. Or people making excuses. No one seems to really realize how much trouble he is in. It's interesting that I was probably as bad and as clueless 4 years ago. Having no candidate can be a great thing sometimes. You can see everything so clearly.

    The starry-eyed syndrome (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by Fabian on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:35:27 PM EST
    has been around since January.

    The only difference between then and now is that November was long, long way away in January.

    Now?

    No Hillary.
    Convention upon us.
    A little over two months to go.
    Obama trending down.
    Undecideds trending up - and undecideds go with known quantities, not unknown quantities.  Obama needs to define himself and his policies.  Strong positions.  Crystal clear policies.  Yadd yada.

    But still, for some Obama will triumph because McCain is evil!  Only in fiction does good triumph over evil because evil is stupid.  In real life, evil is plenty smart.

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    Yeah (5.00 / 4) (#16)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:39:06 PM EST
    that whole "McCain is evil" thingy just doesn't seem to do it. I would have crawled over cut glass in 2004 to vote for Kerry and against Bush. This year, not so much. I just can't get too excited about a candidate who is willing to literally compromise everything away. I really felt like Kerry didn't get a fair shake in 2004 (I'm not excusing some of his mistakes, tho).

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    this is what I think (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by coigue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:18:00 PM EST
    I look back on elections that Dems have lost. I think there is usually a peak of popularity then a fall. We just peak too soon. Kerry did and so did Dukakis. As for other elections? I haven't done the research.

    Anyway, I think this election will be won or lost in October. As I said before, with Hil as VP it would be a sure thing. Biden is also charismatic with the right voters.

    But it will be close.

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    I don't like McCain.... (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:43:24 PM EST
    ...but the upside for McCain of Bush being the WORST PRESIDENT EVER is that its hard not to believe that anything else would be an improvement.

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    more like a continuation (none / 0) (#42)
    by coigue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:18:35 PM EST
    of Bush policies at a slower rate of degeneration.

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    what about Mark Warner for VP? (none / 0) (#38)
    by Josey on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:11:11 PM EST
    I like Mark Warner.... (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:21:06 PM EST
    ...but he doesn't seem to be in the mix.

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    Mark Warner said no to the VP (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by SueBonnetSue on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:49:29 PM EST
    Mark knows he will win his Senate race.  The Senate is a better job than VP.  Mark wants to run for the President.  He couldn't run for VP and risk losing.  A secure Senate seat is much better.  

    Mark would have been a much better choice than little Timmy.  Mark is much more popular in Virginia.  

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    I'll be driving. (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Ben Masel on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:41:19 PM EST
    Curious as to whether there'll be some sort of de facto roadblocks on I-80, as they've been using license plate recognition cameras to nab weed mules in Nebraska.

    I'll be packing a huge "STOP GOVERNMENT SPYING" banner.

    (Paging Senator Feingold: Since you're not speaking at the Convention, perhaps you've got time to hold the other end for a shift?)

    I'll be posting on the State of free speech, both in Denver and St. Paul, likely as diaries.

    More gymnastics fun (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:45:58 PM EST
    I can't imagine ANY guy (none / 0) (#30)
    by Fabian on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:52:12 PM EST
    wanting to get on the balance beam!  Let alone perform on it.  Lots of points for effort and execution.

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    Thanks. (none / 0) (#51)
    by tree on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:37:39 PM EST
    Here's Paul on the uneven bars and in the floor exercise. Great athlete and showman. This reminded me of Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo.

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    Anglachel (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by RalphB on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:48:55 PM EST
    with her usual brilliance dissects Howard Dean calling the GOP the "white" party.  I didn't know he had done it before so it may be more than a simple faux pas.

    Beneath Comtempt

    I voted for Dean in 2004 (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by BrianJ on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:06:08 PM EST
    And I deeply regret that vote now.  Dean has demonstrated that he is utterly incapable of running the DNC or anything but his mouth, whatever his record was in Vermont.  Between his blatant Clinton hatred and favoritism on Obama's behalf, his repeated baiting of white people and Southerners (among other so-called acceptable targets), his grandiose plans that have lacked follow-through, his fundraising flops, and his general inability to comprehend the world around him, Dean will bear more blame than anyone but Obama for the latter's defeat in November.

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    This would be why he began pushing (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:15:18 PM EST
    Dean will bear more blame than anyone but Obama for the latter's defeat in November.

    the idea that it is Hillary's responsibility to get her supporters behind Obama as part of his "we need to get the primary ended now and start our campaign against McCain" commentary mid-primary.

    He just wanted to set the stage for who to blame other than himself.


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    I defended Dean to a few (5.00 / 2) (#109)
    by Jjc2008 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:16:22 PM EST
    of my friends back in 2006.  Now I have to eat crow and admit they were right......he was and is a jerk and a pathetically insecure little man.

    And I am livid that kos never disclosed working for him.

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    Wonder how forthright Kos has been this (5.00 / 0) (#112)
    by MarkL on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:20:22 PM EST
    year.

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    Doesn't matter. (none / 0) (#126)
    by Fabian on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:47:01 PM EST
    No one would really be surprised if he was "unduly influenced".  It would give the wingnuts a helluva talking point though...  ;-)

    I supposed that what really got me was after Hillary suspended, the front pagers apparently were requested to write post mortems on the Clinton campaign - but not on the Obama campaign.  I think Hunter broke free of the "What Hillary Did Wrong" narrative unlike some others.  Those pieces were a kind of kick'er while she's down to me.  I wouldn't have minded if they had been even handed (one can hope) pieces on both the Obama and Clinton campaigns and what it all meant for the GE.  That would have been an excellent topic.  

    Sigh.  So much potential, so much waste.  Unless Obama can turn this around, that will be the narrative of 2008.  

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    You've got to be kidding (2.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Ennis on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:12:39 AM EST
    Dean is the best Chairman we've had in a long while.

    He's brought in plenty of money, started the 50-state strategy, broke the choke-hold of the DLC, and increased party registration.

    I can't think of a thing he's done wrong.

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    So you say he's a big money maker?! (5.00 / 0) (#136)
    by MarkL on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:14:19 AM EST
    That's not what I have read. Isn't he the worst performing DNC chair in some time?

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    Well sure, if you believe everything you (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by Valhalla on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:54:33 AM EST
    read in campaign pamphlets.

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    If you could please (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by MichaelGale on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:49:15 PM EST
    cover Hillary of course and any of the protests. I am a 60's 70's protest person and I still think they have a place for citizen frustration.

    An interview with Hillary would be nice :-). Particularly the nomination speech and crowd reaction.  I am not sure television will cover it much.

    Send some photos/video of other bloggers too.

    Thanks

    Yes, an interview with Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by shoephone on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:29:29 PM EST
    would be fantastic. I would also like to see/hear an interview with one or two Regular Joe or Jane state delegates, instead of the superdelegate politicians who will already be fawned over by the MSM blathering heads.

    (Although, if you had to succumb to one pol interview I'd be interested to hear what Henry Waxman has to say.)

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    It is Wednesday innit? (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by cawaltz on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:35:04 PM EST
    I know I've been in a cold medicine induced haze for the last days but please tell me that I have the day of the week right. Pretty please.

    Ha! Maybe the cold medicine makes (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by tree on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:41:21 PM EST
    you more observant! You're the first to notice and comment on it, but yes, it is Wednesday.

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    Maybe Jeralyn's in denial. (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by tree on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:43:52 PM EST
    If it was really Monday night instead of Wednesday, she'd have two more days to get ready for the convention.

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    I corrected it for her (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:50:06 PM EST
    Thanks, I can't believe I did that (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:39:57 PM EST
    Glad you all caught it.

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    You're okay (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by Lahdee on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:54:40 PM EST
    The Monday Night Open Thread got stopped at the border. When they checked the database it was revealed the tread had crossed way to often. That resulted in it being held incommunicado for two days. Released this evening it's looking to clear the record. We hear it's thinking about asking the ACLU to look into the circumstances.

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    I may not understand why it is an (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Anne on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25:17 PM EST
    Olympic event, but this championship beach volleyball match is pretty exciting - being played in the pouring rain.

    Yeah.......... (none / 0) (#82)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:28:06 PM EST
    Misty May is really impressing me.

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    And what really amazes me, is that (5.00 / 2) (#84)
    by Anne on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:32:00 PM EST
    for all their jumping and stretching and leaping and whatnot, I have yet to see any of them adjust their bathing suits - those things seem glued in place.

    Silly thing to notice, but I'm sure if that were me, I'd have an Olympic-sized wedgie by now...

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    Those suits must be made from (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Joan in VA on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:48:15 PM EST
    some top-secret Spandex not available to the rest of us.

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    I read recently they are glued in place (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:57:19 PM EST
    and, the beauty pageant contestants also glue their swimsuits for the very same reason.

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    Java....I learned that from Suzanne (5.00 / 2) (#118)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:29:11 PM EST
    Sugarbaker on Designing Women.... :)

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    Who says tv sitcoms aren't (5.00 / 1) (#124)
    by zfran on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:43:29 PM EST
    informative. Thanks Psst!

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    I want to know what kind of beach sand. (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by BarnBabe on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:33:13 PM EST
    It is the non sticking sign. If I fell in the sand and was as wet as they are from the rain, I would have sand all over me. Legs, face, arms. Not them. Why is that?

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    Drat! Earlier, Tiki said it was cancelled. (none / 0) (#90)
    by Joan in VA on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:40:38 PM EST
    I wasn't even watching-thanks for that comment.

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    It's pretty excitng. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:44:09 PM EST
    All I saw was the last 2 points. (none / 0) (#100)
    by Joan in VA on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:52:36 PM EST
    But, at least, I saw them win. It's fun to see their excitement.

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    Oh dear, they just gave a shout out to...... (none / 0) (#102)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:55:31 PM EST
    ...Mr. President for his inspiration, and I'm sure they weren't talking about Obama.

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    Emil Jones of the Illinois Senate (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by Xanthe on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:45:41 PM EST
    and a mentor to Sen. Obama is retiring and wishes to install his son in his seat.  I'm sure it will happen - look at Dan Lipinski.  I have no idea if his son is in anyway qualified - who cares anyway - it doesn't matter to those that will make it happen.

    Todd Stroger's son was installed in the county board presidency seat.  and Todd Stroger himself was in a coma when he ran for the presidency of the Cook County Board - when he passed, many people hoped that Sen. Obama would throw his weight to one of the reformers running but no - he endorsed Todd Stroger, Jr.  And he has performed as expected.  

    And (none / 0) (#101)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:53:13 PM EST
    Lupinski is the pits! He's pro life and against stem cell research and yet he's in a totally solid blue collar Democratic district. He also never replies to my e-mails! He did have a primary challenger but it went nowhere.

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    I'm in his district - (5.00 / 0) (#105)
    by Xanthe on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:02:35 PM EST
    and there are many progressives here - but alas not enough. His father is well thought of and many of the older voters vote name.  The way it goes. The first primary put a phony on the ballot to split the votes - and there was another this primary.  Can't remember the names.  If you google you can read about it.  He did have  decent challengers who didn't do as well as some of us expected - DK was hot on the last one.  Again - can't remember his name

    I call the office all the time.  At the local office, they sigh when they hear my voice.  But of late, I am dispirited as to the calls and myriad emails I receive to email or call reps - just a phase I hope.  His Washington DC people are better and more knowledgeable than the local office.    

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    I'd most like you to (5.00 / 0) (#125)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:44:34 PM EST
    talk to Hillary delegates and get your clear perspective on how they're thinking.

    The MSM is just so utterly unable to figure out what's going on in the minds of the Hillary voters who won't support Obama that I don't trust them in the slightest to convey what the Hillary delegates are thinking, either.

    There are a bunch of us here on the Intertubes with a pretty consistent set of views on the whole debacle, but I haven't really got a clue about her convention delegates.

    IOW, I'm really curious about the dissenters from the coronation.

    Is that BEFORE (5.00 / 0) (#128)
    by seeker on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:53:12 PM EST
    McCain collects his $80 million or so in public funds.  If it is before, and I assume it is, Obama will need to collect another $80 million or so just to stay even.  And he has only three more months (including August, nearly over, and October, when it will be a bit late) to collect it.

    Also, we can assume that the RNC will continue to collect money, as I think they can even while McCain can't,  (Correct me if I'm wrong.)  If true, O and the DNC will have to keep up with them.

    Finally McCain will have independent groups which O has mostly shut down.

    His grand strategy is looking worse and worse.

    I thought his strategy was to coast to (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by MarkL on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:56:30 PM EST
    victory. Am I missing something?

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    Answer (2.00 / 0) (#140)
    by Ennis on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:20:00 AM EST
    Am I missing something?

    Pretty much everything if you think he's coasting.

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    Well, no, he's sinking fast, but that's (5.00 / 0) (#141)
    by MarkL on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:21:17 AM EST
    a separate question from what his STRATEGY is.
    By the way, the Jim Jones of Obama pollsters, Poblano, says that McCain is a favorite now.

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    Tropical Storm Fay howling outside (5.00 / 1) (#150)
    by ruffian on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:28:07 AM EST
    here on the eastern edge of Orlando. 2:15 and I can't sleep, listening to the wind and rain. It's not bad enough to be dangerous where i am, or so I keep telling myself, but that sound just makes me nervous. Plus I have friends in town staying with me so I can't get up and make noise.

    I hated hearing about Stephanie Tubbs Jones when I checked in here earlier.  So sad - she was a favorite of mine. Longer night for her family than for me.

    And it is looking like Bayh for VP, if there is major Obama event in Indiana on Saturday. I can live with that, but I don't feel like it helps Obama much, if at all.  It takes a Clinton.

    FL inland (none / 0) (#153)
    by sociallybanned on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:41:39 AM EST
    I use to live a few miles from Orlando (just last year) and while we experience a few Hurricanes in the panhandle our first few years in Fl and then in Central, they aren't bad at all.  We get horrbile winds as bad as the Hurricanes.  My experience and knowledge of Hurricanes is that if you live near coastal waters and "if" there is a storm surge at the time, then the damage will be worse.  The worst we'd experience was Hurricane Dennis when we lived in the Panhandle. The high tide when Dennis came in totally collaspe HWY 98.  One thing for sure, if the Hurricane is in the gulf, then don't go swimming.  It stirs the bottom of the ocean floor which is covered in toxic waste.  You come out glowing!  LOL  

    Be safe anyways!

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    Thx (none / 0) (#155)
    by ruffian on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:54:41 AM EST
    I've only lived here 3 years, so this is the worst I've experienced. The house isn't blowing apart, so I guess I will be fine.  Funny, blizzards in Colorado or Illinois didn't make me nearly this nervous. Being cozy indoors and watching snow pile up outside is nice. This is not that much fun.

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    Please film Dr. Saharra Bledsoe's speech. (5.00 / 2) (#158)
    by laurie on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 04:59:50 AM EST
    It will be the best of the week.
    She is from RiseHillary, and will be speaking in a park in Denver (Covenance?)in the evening.
    She will undoubtedly remember  Stephanie Tubbs.

    (Covenance?) Confluence Park (none / 0) (#167)
    by echinopsia on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 11:49:36 AM EST
    It's where Cherry Creek and the South Platte join. Near the site of the first settlement in Denver.

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    Cheesman Park, Aug 25, The Beautiful Protest and R (none / 0) (#168)
    by laurie on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:42:16 PM EST
    and Rise:
    .  The Rise
    speakers and entertainment will begin at 7 p.m. and end at 10  p.m., with the
    national “Rise” candle salute to Hillary, Democracy and Lady  Liberty to
    Kickoff in Cheesman Park at exactly 9:45 MDT.


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    There was a great article (none / 0) (#2)
    by samtaylor2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:45 PM EST
    On Barak Obama's Economic plans in the NY Times magazine.  

    The Flip Mino (none / 0) (#3)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:50:54 PM EST
    Looks really cool. I think I saw Oprah raving about it on one of her shows, and even used it to take video of herself and her audience as she was raving about it, and instantly uploaded that video to her Web site. Needless to say, everyone in the audience that day went home with one too.

    I really like that it attaches easily to your USB port for quick and simple uploading of video and sound files. It really couldn't get simpler like that. I've been wanting to buy one too for the longest time. I guess I need to have a blog and something worthwhile to shoot and upload first.

    Jeralyn, I trust you'll be sharing videos of what you see at the convention? That'll be really neat.

    The flip is cute (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:12:17 PM EST
    But really, you can get so much better video from a digital camera these days....You can get true high def video and are only limited by the numbers and sizes of the SD cards you have.  And SD memory is CHEAP

    In addition, you can get up to 10x optical zoom out of a point and shoot.  And likely you get better optics and better optical motion stability.

    If you need something tiny to take video, get a digital camera.  The huge benefit is you can also do still shots....

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    digital camera (none / 0) (#78)
    by addy on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:22:32 PM EST
    any recommendations? Our biggest problem with digital cameras has always been the slow lag time between point and shoot. I'd love a recommendation for one that is quick to shoot, good picture quality, small enough to slip in the pocket, and good zoom.

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    Generally, the 2 best brands are Canon and Nikon (none / 0) (#83)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:30:53 PM EST
    I'm a Nikon girl. Had a Canon back in the film days, but a total Nikon addict with digital. Lag times have improved considerably over the years. Also, sequential shooting is an option.

    I'd just go into a decent camera store and see if they have ones you can check the lag time on yourself. I've found some have gotten so small, I have problems holding steady. I actually returned a Nikon PS that had manual capabilities last year and went DSLR to get a more comfortable size. Some people are fine with the small ones. I'm not one of those people. But the Nikon smaller DSLRs fit in my hand perfectly. Which is essential with bad computer hands . . .

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    Rut roh (none / 0) (#88)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:37:03 PM EST
    I'm a Canon girl! Do we have to take this outside? ;)

    I have the Canon SD800 and It LOOOVEEEE it.  I cannot say enough good things about it. It has a wide angle lens and image stabilization. It's last years model though and I haven't kept up with the line to know what replaced it.


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    This is about the size (none / 0) (#96)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:48:10 PM EST
    of the Nikon I sent back. Price about the same also. Nikon was getting ready for new releases, so there had just been a price drop that made me throw in the towel and go DSLR. Something I had been wanting to do, but was going to wait a couple years, lol!~ I would have been a photography major in college back in the day if I could have afforded it. Gotta love digital!

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    Now you guys are pushing my budget..... (none / 0) (#107)
    by addy on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:04:01 PM EST
    But I don't mind. We're not as sophisticated as you guys as photographers, but wouldn't it be nice to have a camera that would give us the versatility to improve our skills? I will check out the brands you both suggested.

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    For some reason (none / 0) (#117)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:25:17 PM EST
    the SD800 is really pricey. I paid less than that a year ago. The newer models are less expensive. Just go Canon or Nikon and you can't go wrong. I tell everyone to go to the store and handle the two brands and see what feels good to you.

    Here's a Canon that's a little more affordable. B&H is paradise. I could move in there.

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    Olympus makes some (none / 0) (#127)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:50:55 PM EST
    nice cameras, too.  I got one about 3 years ago, cost about $400, with a 10x optical zoom, and the lag time is less than nothing.  It also has great balance and fit in the hands, something Nikon has really emphasized and perfected but seems only occasionally to show up by accident in other brands.  Don't know whether all Olympus cameras are like that, but mine feels like a Nikon in the handling.

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    For a digicam I like the (none / 0) (#115)
    by LatinoVoter on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:24:26 PM EST
    Sony Cybershot. It has a lot of different "modes" that make it easier to use (ex night time mode, portrait mode) and you can make some adjustment to it like AV and white balance. The video it captures is pretty good too. I have a Rebel but like the Sony Cybershot for snaps because it isn't very expensive and for sharing pics on-line it is pretty good.

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    There are so many brands and price ranges (none / 0) (#163)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:25:36 AM EST
    As people said, the Nikons are great and the Canons are great, although you can't get many Canon's in the lower price range.  My SIL even has a Kodak point and shoot that she paid $200 for that does 12 megapixel still and high definition video...and is about the size of a deck of cards.

    Costco.com has a whole assortment of cameras at different prices.  Look at the price range you want and Google for reviews on the model.

    I love buying things at Costco for the 90 day no-hastle return policy.  If I don't like the camera, I know I can try something else.

    (no affil with Costco.)

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    word (none / 0) (#86)
    by Little Fish on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33:08 PM EST
    I need removable media. My digital camera takes fab video and it's a year old, I can only imagine how good the newest models are.


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    It's fabulous!! (none / 0) (#7)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:09:03 PM EST
    I bought one for me, and gave both my kids one last Xmas. Between the three of us, most of my 10 month old grandson's stages have been captured on video.

    I keep mine in my purse, so it's always handy.

    Highly recommend it. My email program only allows me to attach video under 2 minutes in length, but that's not been a problem.


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    Small and Handy (none / 0) (#11)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:17:34 PM EST
    Yeah, with gadgets like these, you have a still picture/video of anything and everything you might see during your day.

    With the rise of citizen journalism, and Web sites like YouTube and CNN's iReport.com, you too can be 'Katie Couric,' 'Diane Sawyer' or 'Wolf Blitzer' and report breaking news with video reports.

    I was just over at TV Newser and reading about iReport, and how it's grown in the last two years.

    Now entering its third year, the watershed moment for iReport was in April 2007, when Virginia Tech grad student Jamal Albarghouti captured video of the campus shootings on his cell phone.



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    Me, Too...... (none / 0) (#13)
    by michitucky on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:28:33 PM EST
    I bought one for my husband for Christmas...And bought one for him to give me, also.  I use it almost every day...Perfect for us to email highlights of the kids events to family and friends!!!

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    Java....How much are they? (none / 0) (#54)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:40:44 PM EST
    Depends on where you buy, of course, but (none / 0) (#63)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:56:05 PM EST
    I paid $120 at Costco for my 30 minute, and $150 at Best Buy for the 60 minute recording capability for my kids. The newest one is $179 online at www.flip.com but Amazon may have it for less, and Costco online probably has it.

    I do recall the 30 min versions being on sale for under $100 early in the year.

    Affordable even at the highest price, though.


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    Thanks....and you can upload your (none / 0) (#66)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:03:33 PM EST
    videos quickly?  Sorry for the questions, but I really don't know.

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    Real quick. (5.00 / 0) (#71)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:10:16 PM EST
    I always save mine for email because that compresses them and makes them most versatile. In the edit mode, you can also make still photos out of any frame you like.

    I'm not kidding about how easy they are to operate. My 10 mo. old grandson has had a camera in his face so much since birth, he actually understands what those boxes are doing. As soon as I finish filming his latest tricks (he's almost walking), he takes the camera and watches an instant playback. He knows which buttons to push so he can watch himself!! It's why we're already calling him Mr. President. :)

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    Sounds cool....and I would hate to be (none / 0) (#106)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:02:42 PM EST
    upstaged by a 10-month-old...:)  

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    Flip Mino-there's Christmas covered! (none / 0) (#61)
    by addy on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:53:33 PM EST
    Why have I never heard of this? You've just covered Christmas for me! With the solar powered Camp shower I am ready. This will definantly be a first. Thanks!

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    Yup. Now covered sis and niece for x-mas (none / 0) (#79)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:23:45 PM EST
    on my list and perhaps mom also. Dad {rolls eyes} will be my annual problem. His birthday is on the 15th, so I try and get creative and do a teaser on the birthday and a bigger go along present for x-mas. He's just SO damn hard to shop for. Last year I combined my parents x-mas and bought them bulk grass fed beef. So for mom's late Nov birthday, indoor grill and Dad got new BBQ tools etc.

    Couple years ago I did the shuffle (free engraving!) for sis and niece and that was a huge hit. Got mom a speaker set for the new iPod my dad got her. Apparently, there was quite a struggle over who got to use my mom's computer first for DLs and set ups, lol!~

     

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    Hard to shop for... (none / 0) (#104)
    by addy on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:00:32 PM EST
    Yes, and the hardest to shop for always say "but I'm so easy to buy for! I have so many interests!"
    Which is the rub, because they know so much more about their interest than we do. Most appreciated gift I ever bought my husband was the chimney coal starter for the BBQ. Who knew $15 bucks would pay so much in dividends?

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    Obama's messages (none / 0) (#8)
    by Polkan on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:09:59 PM EST
    DailyKos says someone is sending fake messages about Obama's VP pick. Anyone got anything?

    They were talking about that on Howard (none / 0) (#53)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:38:56 PM EST
    Stern, but don't know much about it.

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    I heard this today too (none / 0) (#157)
    by Grace on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 02:13:24 AM EST
    On FOX.  They said the fake messages were being sent to journalists -- in the middle of the night trying to deprive them of sleep.  

    One said Kaine, another one said Clinton.  

    That's all I heard.

    It sounds so juvenile, it could only come from the Obama campaign.  

    John McCain's campaign is planning to send us all telegrams or letters via Pony Express.  ;-)

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    I have it (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:25:17 PM EST
    -- got it the day it came out and wrote about it a few times. Here's one.

    I like How Long the best.

    Oh really??? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Josey on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:40:53 PM EST
    The AP says -

    Biden is Democratic favorite for Obama's No. 2              

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: August 20, 2008
    Filed at 9:15 p.m. ET

    CHICAGO (AP) -- Sen. Joe Biden has emerged as the favorite among Democrats to be Barack Obama's running mate for his understanding of foreign policy in grave global times and his fighting spirit against the rival Republican ticket.

    http://tinyurl.com/4uxflz


    Geraldine Ferraro was pushing him for VP (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by Ben Masel on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:44:38 PM EST
    on O'Reilly's show today. Not, I suspect, the endorsement that's gonna help with Obama.

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    LOL (none / 0) (#35)
    by Josey on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:01:59 PM EST
    That's what they were saying on Tweety so... (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:46:56 PM EST
    ...Obama can send that email out now. The Media has made its choice. </snark>

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    I was reading on the Obama site (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:11:07 PM EST
    and it seems many of his fans like Biden. It's that . . . ready for it? . . . . experience thing! lol!~

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    Why am I not surprised? (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:26:40 PM EST
    Seriously though, I can't take it that seriously. If he is so popular how come he's run for president a million times and never even been close to getting the nomination? I think its just a case of with Biden, at least the you might not choke on the lemonade, but that's about it.

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    I think it's because the Obama (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Valhalla on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:02:58 PM EST
    supporters think Biden will bring in votes, not at all because the like him.  Does anyone remember any Biden worship in the netroots early on?

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    Biden's appeal to Obama supporters (2.00 / 0) (#138)
    by Ennis on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:17:48 AM EST
    is that he's an attack dog.  That's the only thing he needs to help with the campaign.

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    Honestly, if he won't pick Hillary (none / 0) (#69)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:08:40 PM EST
    I do hope he picks someone with experience. I practically panic when I think of how inexperienced he is. Biden doesn't offend me on a daily basis and doesn't make me grab for the remote. I'm sure he'll piss me off, but on other things he may not. Richardson would make me scream as would Kaine. Bayh, I'm kinda neutral on along with KS.

    I think some of his fan base is realising he needs some experience against McCain. Or heck, to run the country. But they still aren't looking at him realistically by their comments. Oy. Some were even tossing the mixed ticket around. {sigh}

    At least Biden will bring some humor to the ticket, lol!~

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    Gotta disagree (5.00 / 5) (#91)
    by Valhalla on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:40:48 PM EST
    I will never as long as I live forget his abominable performance chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee in the Anita Hill hearings.  He totally folded to the Republicans misogynistic, smeary memes and is as responsible as anyone, outside Bush Sr who nominated him, for Clarence Thomas being on the Supreme Court.

    I was appalled.  And he must have been getting some pretty negative feedback too, because after the first day he interspersed him comments with a variety of 'No one's done more for women than I have' whines.

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    Biden talks great here and there (5.00 / 2) (#134)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:03:36 AM EST
    but when push comes to shove, forget about it.  His performance in the Thomas hearings was classic Biden.

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    Olympics Gymnastics (none / 0) (#19)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:41:53 PM EST
    Anyone watching it right now?

    Besides watching all these star athletes, bulging muscles and all, in all their glory, I'm in awe at how agile and in control of their bodies they are.

    Shawn Johnson (USA) and Fabien H... (Germany) were just amazing!

    Also, a good reminder (as if Michael Phelps wasn't enough last week) to get my butt into the gym and pool more often. sigh.

    Nastia was lovely to watch... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:48:31 PM EST
    ...she put a little extra something something into that.

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    Rats, I thought they were finished :( (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:00:42 PM EST
    Shawn Johnson is an adorable mighty might. Great smile and open personality. Loved the way she was always right there to congratulate the other competitors and their coaches.

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    I think I'm addicted to the gymnastics (5.00 / 5) (#34)
    by Anne on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:00:44 PM EST
    coverage...I watched the coverage last night and was just blown away by the Americans' performances, and tickled to death for both Jonathan Horton and Shawn Johnson.

    I was also struck, again, by the sportsmanship exhibited; it's not always easy to be hyper-competitive AND happy for your teammates when they do better than you do, and for the others when they also do well.  These are lessons that will serve them well later in life and we could all take note for ourselves.

    I suppose this is a segue into what I see as the ability of Hillary Clinton to be gracious and sportsmanlike, and put country and party over herself.  I'm not sure there are many people who could have competed in the atmosphere she did, where so many were cheering her defeats and the media were almost uniformly participating to see who could be more cutting.  To have kept her head up, her spirits high and go out there, and day after day, at event after event, communicate to the voters that she was on their side - that this was about them and their futures - is a feat that just amazes me, and for which I give her my utmost respect.

    To then have reached the point at the end of the primaries, to accept defeat - even if her supporters would not - and to turn to the opponent who allowed disrespect and sexism and unfair charges of racism to propel him to victory and give him her unqualified and full-throated support, well - she is a better person than I, and I think America is going to be sorrier than it realizes not to have her leading this country to a better place.

    True champions are not always those who win the race; Hillary is, in my opinion, a true champion.

    [sorry!  got a little carried away there...]

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    On a true champion (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by christinep on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:27:05 PM EST
    What an honest and perceptive tribute, Ann. Hillary is a true champion. I hope that we will have years to observe her continued service to our country. She truly is a fighter and one dedicated public servant.

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    October Surprise? (none / 0) (#23)
    by rjarnold on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:46:36 PM EST
    I've seen a lot of speculation on some blogs that Obama's opposition as a state Senator to a certain bill called the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act" may end up being an October Surprise. (Even Somerby mentioned it today.) The bill which passed unanimously in the U.S. senate, would have protected any babies that are born, even if they are the result of a failed abortion. Alan Keyes said that Obama supported infanticide because he supported the bill, but Obama says there is more to it. Here's an article about it.  

    So the question is, will this have an impact on the election?

    Doesn't sound like an October surprise if.... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:49:50 PM EST
    ...people know about it now. But that doesn't mean the Republicans won't try to pound him with it.

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    Definitely Not An Oct. Surprise (5.00 / 0) (#32)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:58:24 PM EST
    His name fails me right now, but a former Republican congressman wrote a scathing (but fair) opinion piece in a Pennsylvania newspaper late last year, or very early this year, highlighting this very vote and support of Obama's.

    Of course, it went largely unnoticed, and all efforts by certain factions of the netroots proved to be fruitless. So it baffles me that it's getting all this traction now, when this information's been out there for more than 7-8 months.

    I suppose it's because the topic came up at Rick Warren's forum and its part of the ongoing debate about whether McCain will choose a running mate who supports abortion rights (Liebermann/Ridge)

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    Here It Is (none / 0) (#40)
    by JimWash08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:16:55 PM EST
    Philadelphia Inquirer / The Elephant in the Room
    Obama: A harsh ideologue hidden by a feel-good image

    By Rick Santorum (R) - Feb. 28, 2008

    The year after the Born Alive Infants Protection Act became federal law in 2002, identical language was considered in a committee of the Illinois Senate. It was defeated with the committee's chairman, Obama, leading the opposition.

    Let's be clear about what Obama did, once in 2003 and twice before that. He effectively voted for infanticide. He voted to allow doctors to deny medically appropriate treatment or, worse yet, actively kill a completely delivered living baby. Infanticide - I wonder if he'll add this to the list of changes in his next victory speech and if the crowd will roar: "Yes, we can."




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    Keyes has been out there (5.00 / 0) (#89)
    by nycstray on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:37:22 PM EST
    saying something similar. There's a YouTube video out with the nurse and I think Keyes is on it also. It may be from when they ran against each other.

    Obama has stretched the truth on enough issues that we could see some ugly attacks very soon. His attacks on McCain won't even register.

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    Isn't the GOP making abortion even (none / 0) (#48)
    by MarkL on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:34:48 PM EST
    more of an issue than usual, this year?

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    Probably, but it seems they are taking it from (5.00 / 0) (#64)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:01:21 PM EST
    a different angle.

    FOX really took Obama to pieces with his IL state senate vote on late term. The nurse who found the baby alive in with dirty linens, then held it until it died, was on and really challenged everything Obama is saying about what he did and how he voted. Not pretty.

    They are reporting this as an abortion topic then expanding it to include Obama's character.


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    And from what I understand, Obama is (5.00 / 0) (#73)
    by Anne on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:13:43 PM EST
    not being truthful about why he voted the way he did.  He's been saying that he voted against the bill because it didn't have the language in it that would make the distinction that the Act did not apply to the unborn - when, in fact, it had the exact same language as the US Senate bill, and Obama had been on the committee in the IL legislature that put the language in the IL bill.

    He has to know there is a record of all of this, and yet he continues to mislead the public.

    And then, there's the current kerfuffle with the Annenberg Challenge papers that are not being released - is it the U of Chicago? - for some trumped-up reason.

    Would that real vetting had taken place before now.

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    Yes, the report on Hannity & Colmes (5.00 / 0) (#77)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:22:31 PM EST
    tonight was very, very bad for him. More for his efforts to portray his role in the legislation and his vote different than it was.

    Had he been properly vetted, and still reached presumptive status, maybe he wouldn't be having such a hard time getting more HRC supporters.

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    Anne....don't forget the latest about his (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:23:49 PM EST
    infamous "it's above my pay grade remark".  It's coming back to haunt him...

    link

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    A reason why he can't pick Hillary (5.00 / 0) (#147)
    by Manuel on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:05:52 AM EST
    Who can blame them? Obama wants the difficult duty of taking on Iran and North Korea, but he can't even handle Rick Warren or the Clintons - the latter having commandeered Obama's own convention in Denver next week and forced their way into a pro-Hillary roll call. Having been routed by the Clintonistas, Obama wants a chance to lead against al-Qaeda? Please

    The Republicans are ready to attack him as weak if he does.  How can that attack be countered?  He has painted himself into a corner by not picking her from the start.  

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    Gosh, how do we suppose that happened (5.00 / 1) (#149)
    by JavaCityPal on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:24:12 AM EST
    Obama should have stood confident and declared something that sounded like, "it is being reported that the Clinton's have commandeered the convention and are forcing a roll call vote. This could not be further from the truth. The roll call vote is a necessary part of the process because neither of us have enough pledged delegates for the nomination. All delegates, pledged and Super, must cast their vote at the convention. For those of you who are just learning about the democratic process, the SD's do not vote until convention, and that has yet to happen."

    Now, that would have made him look strong, confident, and presidential. The Republicans would have nothing to criticize.


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    See, this is the kind of thing (none / 0) (#159)
    by Dr Molly on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:28:48 AM EST
    that has pushed me into Obama's corner and why I'll vote for him.

    Every time I lapse into apathy about the election, just send me a dose of Santorum or Limbaugh or Cheney or, yes, McCain.

    These jerks are much more effective at getting me on Obama's side than Obama himself is.

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    If it would get Limbaugh (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by Fabian on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 06:35:18 AM EST
    off the air, I'd vote for Obama.  Limbaugh spews misinformation 24/7.  It's not his political views I object to, but things like attacking the environment.

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    I know (none / 0) (#161)
    by Dr Molly on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 07:01:29 AM EST
    He's a dangerously effective propaganda machine. All I have to do to know that is listen to my father-in-law spew his hateful talking points.

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    Also, buy a really spiffy backpack (none / 0) (#31)
    by MichaelGale on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 08:52:57 PM EST
    I bought one when I went to Paris and love it. It's light weight and very stylish.

    Don't forget the mints, Advil and Kleenix.:-)

    Barack can't catch a break. (none / 0) (#36)
    by LatinoVoter on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:10:39 PM EST
    The design to the tickets to his convention speech look like he's wrapped up in an upside down American flag.

    Acceptance speech tickets causing controversy.

    Latino...you are correct, he does look (none / 0) (#58)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:49:17 PM EST
    like he is wrapped in the flag.  Someone had to okay that design, so if it is cause for concern, it's on him and his campaign.  And, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they designed it that way purposely...

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    Wrapped in the flag? (5.00 / 0) (#81)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:27:07 PM EST
    Maybe they were going for the Olympic style victory lap look.

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    It's kind of a creepy image (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:33:23 PM EST
    his head looks like that water person from The Abyss.

    The graphic illustrator they are using, and the approval process is out of touch.


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    lol....The Abyss....very appropo since (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by PssttCmere08 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:07:18 PM EST
    it looks like that is where the dem party is headed...

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    So, so true - (5.00 / 0) (#111)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:19:26 PM EST
    but his head shot really does look like that clip they used in the trailers where Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio amusingly pokes the water head.


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    Not quite (3.00 / 0) (#116)
    by BrianJ on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:25:17 PM EST
    It's where Obama is headed.  The Party will survive him, and even thrive without him.

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    Plenty of current party leaders (5.00 / 2) (#121)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 11:34:19 PM EST
    would need to be removed for the party to thrive again.


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    Lieberman (none / 0) (#44)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:21:19 PM EST
    Is speaking at Republican Convention. Hopefully this will be enough for Reid to take away his committee chair.

    You'd think, right? (none / 0) (#47)
    by Maria Garcia on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:27:13 PM EST
    Don't bet the farm on it! (5.00 / 2) (#50)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 09:37:19 PM EST
    Lieberman is an Independent (none / 0) (#67)
    by JavaCityPal on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:04:52 PM EST
    Seems he should be able to speak wherever he is invited.

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    True (5.00 / 3) (#99)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49:04 PM EST
    But then there's no reason for him to be given a committee chair by the Dem's. Particularly since he refused to hold any hearings on Katrina.

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    I saw talk of the Eagles (none / 0) (#70)
    by txpolitico67 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:09:09 PM EST
    earlier.  For those who may have XM Radio, the 70s channel plays the original American Top 40's with Casey Kasem on Wed nights.  Right now I am listening to the AT 40 from Aug 5, 1978.

    Man, talk about FABULOUS memories.  Casey Kasem's voice takes me WAY back...not to mention the fabulous music!!

    Take a tablet PC (none / 0) (#76)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:19:10 PM EST
    Go to Costco and get an HP TX2500z.  It's a tablet PC so you can type, or fold the monitor down and write.  Really fun.  You can also use either the pointer or your finger as a touchscreen mouse, which is really convenient on a laptop.

    I love mine. It has some quirks, but it's really a nice device.  The wave of the future.

    I hope you enjoy your adventure next week.

    I have one of these (none / 0) (#144)
    by Manuel on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 12:42:43 AM EST
    I am using it with my kids.  There is some cool free software availble.  We downloaded the Microsoft Ebook Reader and a lot of free classic books from the U of Virginia collection.  When the kids get tired of reading, they can have the text to speech take over and read to them.  I am looking for a good sketchpad software for kids.  Please chime in if you know of any.  

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    I've become a solitaire addict again (none / 0) (#165)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:31:39 AM EST
    The tactile feeling of playing on a tablet PC is nice.  I definitely need to download the Microsoft reader for tablets.  Thanks for the tip!

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    I like Vista (none / 0) (#164)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 08:28:34 AM EST
    and there are programs to remove the junkware.  If Vista is a problem Newegg.com still sells XP...

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    HuffPO annoys me (none / 0) (#151)
    by sociallybanned on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 01:32:46 AM EST
    Really Huffingtonpost is annoying.  I think I use to visit the site almost everyday and multiple times. Now, I rarely visit the site. Today was one of those rare days only because the moon was beautiful tonight, orange and dark. Their headline was on TL site on the 19th.  BIDEN!!  LOL, How Biden is no. 1 for the no. 2 spot.  Personally, if Obama is going to win, he needs someone equivalent o McCain.  What I mean by equivalent is his "character image", what the avg. Jane/Joe views McCain.  Wes Clark , IMO fits that.  I haven't been in touch to much with what's going on because I'm working these night hours.  The other way he could win, is with Hilary Clinton and yes, by a landslide.  I think it's sad we do not have a candidate who cares about the healthcare system.  In 10 years Medicare will be bankrupt.  By the time, Hilary gets into office, it will be too late to recover. SIGH!  

     

    You made me look (none / 0) (#156)
    by ruffian on Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 02:01:41 AM EST
    The pictures of the 'short list' are pretty funny.  They all look so inadequate.  We are really in trouble if it is not Clark or Clinton. It's sad that our nominee is not of sufficient stature to make his VP choice irrelevent.

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