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Posted on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:41:08 PM EST
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Look, it's Biden. Ok. It just is. I know, Obama has not said so, but it is Biden.

I can't take it anymore -

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain
Oh no no no no no

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    I'd really like to be satiated (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:46:57 PM EST
    speaking only for myself

    Fay will be overhead tonight (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:49:20 PM EST
    Maybe I'll at least get my fill of rain.

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    Good thing BTD was never pg. (4.75 / 4) (#4)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:50:07 PM EST


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    I was three weeks overdue (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:55:27 PM EST
    and just about having a dukeout with my OB who said that no 24 yr old woman knew the exact day she conceived.....like we are all out of control sexbots.  After my daughter was born and her tests indicated she was indeed three weeks overdue he looked a little ashen splaining that to me, the drugs and the after delivery enorphins were so good I decided to not beat the ever livin daylights out of him.

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    I knew you had a male OB! (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:58:44 PM EST
    My second child was born w/o benefit of Lamaze classes and/or medication (for me).  But the doctor didn't tell me ahead of time--no drugs.  I was mightily pissed when I talked to him several hours later.  He sd., do you see anyone else who has just given birth walking around here?  

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    You were up walking around! HA! (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:05:46 PM EST
    With my son, second child, I had no drugs and knew I wasn't getting any having him in a military hospital.  They were going through this NO DRUGS thing then.  I was fine but he wasn't fine, they had a heck of a time trying to get me to stay put laying down while they attempted to figure out what was going on with him, what a mess and nobody there had any experience dealing with such infants........see, they should have given out the drugs!  They should have started with my husband :)  He was really unhappy and vocal about it!

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    No. 1 was military hospital. (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:07:44 PM EST
    Not enough staff, due to Vietnam War.  So, I was the helping hand for my roommate who had an excruciating headache and seemed to be a bit of a pansy.  

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    It's almost wine:30 (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:15:12 PM EST
    No matter how bad it gets I'm having some Folie A Deux 'Menage a Trois'.  Had some at a wedding a few months back and it was so good I ordered a case but it was hard to find.  Must a few folks out there drinking it all gone.

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    I'm going to try to stay awake for a (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:17:27 PM EST
    modern dance concert, after a really long series of flights yesterday.

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    Good luck girl (none / 0) (#93)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:52:10 PM EST
    I'd probably be pretty wiped out.  I do have some of that Lance Armstrong endorsed FRS energy stuff.  It helps sometimes

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    It's all the "pause"s and intermissions (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:55:41 PM EST
    between various pieces of choreography that may do me in.  

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    Ha! We;ve had the same pregnancies (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:19:47 PM EST
    although my first was a month overdue (I have a health condition that means I can't be dilated).  

    At least a month overdue by the doc's clock and calendar. I wasn't as sure as you, but I had a much better guess because I used the old wives' tale of counting from the first kick.  (And could he kick.)

    But our male OBs and hospitals and nurses must have all taken training at the same place yours did.

    The second time around, they took orders from me.  I decided when I would show up, leaving as little time as possible for them to do things to me that would count as torture in humane countries.  I told them that they would administer medications, as I already had the lovely experiences extolled by people without anatomies to get pregnant, etc.

    And the main aim worked.  They could hardly wait to discharge me, so I could get back home to a far better ambience.  And a bathtub.

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    Woah guys. (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by lilburro on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:25:20 PM EST
    Woah.

    This is going to make the non-moms go running screaming out of the room! ;D  

    (I say this as a woman)

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    Actually, I think it is (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by lilburro on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:26:36 PM EST
    significant and probably not what Obama intended that this drama has us talking about the pain of pregnancy.

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    I was 12 days overdue when my (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:31:22 PM EST
    first was born, but our dog had given birth to 10 - yes, 10 - puppies 3 days before I (finally) delivered (word to the wise: if you have your male dog neutered when your female is in heat, don't be fooled into thinking he can't get her pregnant...there are still enough swimmers in the pipeline to make puppies).

    We have a picture of me sitting next to the whelping box, hugely pregnant, wistfully looking at the dog, who'd had the good fortune of going first.

    On the other hand, I only had one baby, so I had that goin' for me!

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    I'm satiated on Obamadrama already (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by Cream City on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:14:09 PM EST
    and was some months ago.  This seems like one of those bad sequels that only makes you think less of the stars who were so much better in the first one.

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    I, for one of an unknown number, (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:30:15 PM EST
    am now shutting everything off. I am opting out of Obama's "any minute now" game.

    I'll tune back in when I'm positive the convention is over. He's made his pick, he's not telling, and it won't make my applause needle move so much as a fraction of an inch.


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    third man is on turner classic (none / 0) (#102)
    by hellothere on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:33:57 PM EST
    movies, so i'm settle down for the night.

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    My theme song today (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by jpete on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:50:17 PM EST
    about being in a relationship one doesn't want.

    "We're heading for a trainwreck
    I knew it from the start...."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmc5A2g_74c

    A Yaminion, Are We? (none / 0) (#53)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:14:42 PM EST
    That season was only the second season of Idol that I actually followed all the way through, and I was rooting for Elliott. He had a good album.

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    I hope the Biden thing is a joke... (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by frankly0 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:50:32 PM EST
    Look, if you look at Obama's comments yesterday about how he tries "to surround [him]self with people who are about getting the job done, and who are not about ego, self-aggrandisement, getting their names in the press", how could he possibly choose Biden?

    It would become an immediate joke that he said this. I don't see the Obama team being that dumb. They have to say something at least plausible about the person they selected.

    This would bite them in the behind the moment they text the message.

    It does seem (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:56:14 PM EST
    a remarkably strange thing to say if you've got Biden in mind.  He has some admirable qualities, but humility and ego-less-ness aren't among them.


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    I just wanna know (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:59:23 PM EST
    What Would Jesus Do?

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    Excellent! (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:09:16 PM EST


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    Not to mention the (none / 0) (#30)
    by frankly0 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:00:20 PM EST
    part about not getting you name in the press.

    Of all the tea leaves we've had to read, this comment does strike me as narrowing the field considerably, given that we're talking about politicians.

    Bayh I could see -- or possibly Kaine, so far as I know. Not a lot of others.

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    I'd agree if we weren't talking about Obama (none / 0) (#59)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:17:36 PM EST
    here.  His capacity for self-delusion and insisting that up is actually down is pretty awesome.  It's also entirely possible that he hasn't been paying attention for long enough to have gotten Biden's number.

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    Well, Biden may be the first veep (none / 0) (#33)
    by magisterludi on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:02:10 PM EST
    with hair plugs. That counts for something, right?


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    Now there's a factoid I didn't know. (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:03:20 PM EST


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    It's a better solution (none / 0) (#45)
    by magisterludi on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:12:13 PM EST
    than a combover.

    There are some really bad combovers in Congress.

    Biden got his plugs back in the early nineties, IIRC. There was a mild story about it.

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    great teeth too! i noticed how white (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by hellothere on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:37:43 PM EST
    they were when he kept smiling at anita hill while the knife went in. sorry but i hold grudges about how she was treated.

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    Same here. I will never forget that nightmare :-( (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by bridget on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:50:07 PM EST


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    Why all the attention to Biden's hair? (none / 0) (#55)
    by Vico on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:15:37 PM EST
    Good gravy, look at Bayh's. Those of you who do not remember Hoosier comedian Herb Shriner may remember Alfalfa from Our Gang. The stupidest haircut on the Hill.

    And Kaine -- looks like he's in training to replace Elsa Lanchester in The Bride of Frankenstein.

    Next to those birds, Biden's hair is tame.

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    I know! We should be talking about his (none / 0) (#57)
    by MarkL on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:16:27 PM EST
    houses!

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    Just making idle chatter (none / 0) (#68)
    by magisterludi on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:23:24 PM EST
    whilst we cool our heels waiting for the big disappoint- er-announcement.

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    And his teeth are so white it will (none / 0) (#86)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:33:13 PM EST
    make it posible to cut down on lighting in the WH and save the taxpayers some $$.

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    Well (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:06:11 PM EST
    you are dealing with the Obama team who thought the Hawaii vacation was a good idea. The same team that put a target on his back w/r/t the house issue.

    These people are NOT good strategists. Come to think of it, those statements make it much more likely that IT is Biden because that's how clueless they are.

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    Maybe the Obama campaign hasn't (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:51:45 PM EST
    figured out to swat down the inevitable blowback from Biden's articulate and clean comment.

    BTD (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by BarnBabe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:53:07 PM EST
    Do you have your diary all ready to do a cut and paste if it is Biden? Or a "Insert name" one? Or, is this going to be a off the top of your head diary?

    After listening to Carville (5.00 / 5) (#20)
    by Jjc2008 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:56:29 PM EST
    on CNN I am now trying to accept that not only will it not be Hillary, but that he never even had her on the list.....
    8{

    That seems silly and petty...and hard to believe (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Salt on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:01:15 PM EST
    even in this Primary

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    Best clip of today was (5.00 / 6) (#43)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:11:08 PM EST
    A journalist asking Hillary, "do you still want the job?" And Hillary's brilliant, quick answer, "I never said I did, I said I would do whatever was asked of me to make sure we got BO elected."

    Fortunately, more than half of democrats can still see the difference between the two.

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    My Biggest Wish Right Now (5.00 / 6) (#62)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:20:26 PM EST
    After that Politico story today, is for Hillary to pack her bags after her speech on Tuesday night and head off on a vacation to Hawaii or some other exotic place.

    I'd add in the one-finger salute to all those DNC fat-cats -- if I were her -- but Hillary is a bigger and better person, so that shall remain a part of my wish.

    Enough shilling for Obama. She's done more than is expected of her, especially after her accomplishments and at her stature.

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    Besides, she needs to rest up for 2012 ;) (none / 0) (#97)
    by lmv on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:22:01 PM EST
    Like most people, I suspect this late Friday/early Saturday announcement thing is an attempt to minimize Hillary Disapointment Syndrome.  

    I can't believe how badly played this veep thing has been.  Text messages?  Announcing it against the Olympics on a slow news day?  

    Hmmm ... I guess there's the bizarre possibility that he's asking Hillary at the 11th hour and 59th minute.  

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    What happens (none / 0) (#100)
    by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:54:19 PM EST
    If the delegates get enough numbers together - that refuse to vote Obama - that they can force a HIllary as VP thing?

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    that was a political answer telling (none / 0) (#104)
    by hellothere on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:39:27 PM EST
    the reporter, "heck no i don't want the job."

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    If this is true, the optics are really bad. (5.00 / 4) (#44)
    by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:11:20 PM EST
    The Obama campaign should have at least short-listed and vetted her, especially since Obama is the one who said she'd be on anybody's short-list. Boy, that comment is going to get a lot of re-play in the media if the VP pick isn't Hillary (and it looks like it won't be). Tonight on CNN, Wolf Blitzer already repeated it during his conversation with Carville. My prediction is that there will be plenty more PUMA-types soon once this gets more airplay.

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    It occurred to me (none / 0) (#24)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:58:37 PM EST
    that the "text messaging" strategy of announcement all but tells us that she isn't the pick, never was even close.  The text messaging is to target the youth.  Imagine their disappointment when the pick is Hillary.

    Hillary should definitely be taken off anything even closely resembling the radar screen.

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    Not only that, it gives the Obama (none / 0) (#35)
    by Jjc2008 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:04:04 PM EST
    campaign the numbers of all these folks...when they need more money...

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    I doubt (none / 0) (#76)
    by Lil on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:27:53 PM EST
    that most of them even know anybody else that is a contender.

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    I hope... (none / 0) (#46)
    by lansing quaker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:12:31 PM EST
    It's put up on YouTube.  I love seeing Carville; no real justification why.  And those of us with Cable always miss out. :-\

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#67)
    by lilburro on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:23:10 PM EST
    They really, really must be morons.  When I saw that in waiting, CNN decided to fill up the time by talking about how Hillary wasn't even vetted...

    And now Wolf Blitzer - "How has he been able to keep this a secret?  If he wins, will Obama run a secretive life?"

    Just keep the good press going!  The convention is just guaranteed to be filled with good vibrations, isn't it.

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    I'll be happy if it's Bayh. Finally, I'll (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by MarkL on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:13:22 PM EST
    get a prediction right.

    I predict.....Not_Hillary! (none / 0) (#90)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:40:14 PM EST
    Also - dull, white, older man.

    Anyone else want to make a prediction?

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    Well, this delay and the non-vetting has sure (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:30:52 PM EST
    brought out the Hillary-hate again on certain blogs. What a unified convention we will have! They don't understand why it should bother her supporters to find out she was never even considered.

    Can you imagine if Hillary won and they didn't even consider Obama. I'm with Lambert at this point and fully expect a stab in the back with Sebelius since that would hurt the most.

    Betting Movement (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by CoralGables on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:31:56 PM EST
    Evan Bayh is moving upwards quickly at intrade and the Chinese gymnasts are moving quickly towards 14.

    Has the IOC made any announcement about (none / 0) (#88)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:37:05 PM EST
    their new investigation on their ages?

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    16 going on 14? (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by CoralGables on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:41:56 PM EST
    Yes but I doubt they will ever be able to show they are anything but 16. Unless you can get a family member to say passports were fudged, I suspect they will remain 16 on paper.

    Or should we change a little bit of the soundtrack from the Sound of Music...I am sixteen going on fourteen.

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    I can't believe how breathless they (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:41:30 PM EST
    are at CNN (I have XM in the car and tuned in on the way home - no cable or satellite at the homestead).  Jor those who were watching, was Wolf dancing around like he might wet his pants, because that's how he sounded.

    And I loved the reasons that were given for why they have dragged this out so long...they want to control the media, shorten the time for the media to dig up negative stuff on the VP (as if the media have not already done that research and have the pipeline primed).  Candy Crowley: "this is the drumroll."  Yeah, okay.

    What no one asked was, will the choice live up to all this hype?  I'm thinking...not.

    Amd the Carville interview - he sounded pretty disgusted with the whole thing.

    Maybe Obama wants to say that (none / 0) (#2)
    by steviez314 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:47:19 PM EST
    it took him longer to decide on his VP pick than it took Bush and McCain to decide that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

    Because nuance takes longer..... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:51:31 PM EST
    ...and with that I say so long and head out for my long commute.

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    Saddam wasn't even in town that day (none / 0) (#22)
    by Edger on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:57:47 PM EST
    <looks around, glances at ceiling, whistles, backs away slowly>

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    Jeralyn's back (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:50:59 PM EST
    And I am outta here.

    Chicken! (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:59:47 PM EST


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    thanks for a fun day (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:00:59 PM EST


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    Breaking diary on DK says a TV station has (none / 0) (#10)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:52:40 PM EST
    seen Obama/Bayh bumper stickers being produced.

    I heard earlier (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by ccpup on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:56:06 PM EST
    that Kerry had four different stickers with four different names printed up before he made his choice public.

    An Obama/Bayh sticker may be the golden needle in the messy, boring haystack.  Or it may not be anything.

    We'll know soon enough.  And collectively yawn, I'm sure.

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    Bayh is exactly (none / 0) (#14)
    by frankly0 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:53:37 PM EST
    whom I'd expect given the comment from Obama "I try to surround myself with people who are about getting the job done, and who are not about ego, self-aggrandisement, getting their names in the press."

    Nothing could fit the man better.

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    Yes, if I was Bayh (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Edger on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:59:45 PM EST
    I'd hide in shadows or seedy bars or under rocks too...

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    There go those "McCain supported Bush tax (none / 0) (#16)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:55:19 PM EST
    cut" ads.

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    And the judgment on the war. (none / 0) (#70)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:24:30 PM EST
    Does anyone else think that Evan Bayh is like the most boring person Obama could possibly pick?

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    Breaking RUMOR is more like it. (none / 0) (#15)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:55:11 PM EST
    Let's see if they rec it up or not.

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    Yeah, and that bumper sticker is ugly. It (none / 0) (#21)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:57:00 PM EST
    doesn't look like what they would choose.

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    How is rec-ing it up any indication (none / 0) (#74)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:25:50 PM EST
    of the story's validity? lol

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    Not validity, gullibility. (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:30:29 PM EST
    And that community...well, it's not as discerning as it once was.  I expect some fanaticism and obsession with a presidential election, but they, um, exceeded my expectations.

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    Not discerning. :) (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:39:58 PM EST
    You're being much more polite than I would be.

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    Website? (none / 0) (#38)
    by Cairo Faulkner on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:06:20 PM EST
    What's this about? Forwards to the Obama website?

    www.obamabayh.com

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    Gloryosky! (none / 0) (#42)
    by Landulph on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:09:49 PM EST
    I believe you may have cracked it!

    It forwards to "Page Not Found," but the URL is http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_evan.php

    I think it's Bayh! Good work on this! Did you just type the URL in at random, or what?

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    Check the other ones. (none / 0) (#48)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:12:42 PM EST
    And see what happens.  Might just have bought up the domain names.

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    Very Well Done (none / 0) (#50)
    by BDB on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:13:40 PM EST
    Obamabiden.com, btw, came up empty for me.

    As for Bayh, he doesn't suck as much as Hagel or Kaine.  He was, however, one of the principal drafters of the AUMF.  But, hey, now that Hillary's out of the picture, it's time to get over it.

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    Nope (none / 0) (#52)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:14:35 PM EST
    http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_joe.php

    also exists.

    I didn't go looking for meet_hillary.php, or meet_chet.php, or meet_tim.php, but I'd be willing to bet all or some exist.


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    Meet Joe Black?! (none / 0) (#56)
    by MarkL on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:15:54 PM EST


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    Doesn't mean anything. (none / 0) (#60)
    by lansing quaker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:19:11 PM EST
    That'll come up for any .php file that doesn't exist.

    You could change it to dazzler.php or marthastewart.php or americaislame.php and you'd get a not found page.

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    These are all pages on the Obama site (none / 0) (#66)
    by JavaCityPal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:22:00 PM EST
    Just saying the "code" wasn't cracked.


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    No, no, no. (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by lansing quaker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:24:44 PM EST
    .php is a dynamic web script, and is designed so that ANY incorrect url will keep you on the site itself (barackobama.com), rather than a "404 Not Found" page.

    These files don't exist.  It's not like .htm files where you need a physical file for every link.

    All "not founds" keep you there.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#77)
    by Cairo Faulkner on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:29:22 PM EST
    You're right about that. However, I didn't find it by going to www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_evan.php, I was actually forwarded there by obamabayh.com, as Landuplh above was too. However, as I say, that's now going to some other site, so it looks like a false alarm.

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    Hmm... (none / 0) (#63)
    by Cairo Faulkner on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:20:28 PM EST
    Hmm you're right about that; Chet also exists. However, obamabiden.com is not registered, nor is obamakaine.com, obamaedwards.com, or obamaclinton.com - though I'm sure that surprises none of us.

    In answer as to how I found it, I simply typed in 'obamabayh.com' expecting some sort of pro-Bayh site or something, and was surprised to find myself on the real Obama website!

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    Oh my. (none / 0) (#69)
    by Cairo Faulkner on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:23:53 PM EST
    No sooner had I typed that reply, obamabayh.com no longer forwards to the official Obama website. How very strange. Perhaps it was a false alarm.

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    there is this tidbit (none / 0) (#64)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:21:28 PM EST
    at HuffPo from a merchandise email:

     Obama-Biden campaign items will be posted on Thursday, Aug. 21, 2008.

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    Actually... (none / 0) (#78)
    by DET103 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:29:32 PM EST
    ...meet hillary is the only one you can enter that does not give an error message, odd.

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    Needs a boost in IN polls (none / 0) (#98)
    by lmv on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:31:18 PM EST
    The polls show McCain has a slight lead in IN.

    I think IN maybe an ego thing for Obama, since it's a neighboring state.  His campaign has been determined to win it, citing the shared media market with Chicago.

    Picking your veep on that is over-the-top, as far as I'm concerned.  This should be a calm, reasoned, rational decision, not based on polls or electoral college maps.

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    ahh ramones.. (none / 0) (#11)
    by jedimom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:53:04 PM EST
    what a perfect song choice BTD, I think you are right and it is Joe. I was so hoping for Hillary in my heart.

    Rove was glowing on Faux with Cavuto earlier ruminating on how Hillary supporters feel about her not even being vetted.

    He said it was clear Obama had no intention of even considering Hillary when he hired Patti Solis-Doyle.

    They are wasting no time on working the party divide. He even said it was like 'salt in the wound'. Good grief.

    Rove has been reading, I would guess ;) (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:30:27 PM EST


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    Rove is also right :-) (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by RalphB on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:56:06 PM EST
    as he so often proves in the end.  Just because he is evil doesn't mean he's not the smartest guy in the room.

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    That's a hysterical concept (none / 0) (#13)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:53:25 PM EST
    for the music video.

    My least favorite video concept is Watch The Band Play and Sing with lots of fast cuts.  It's just plain irritating.

    Except it's usually (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:58:02 PM EST
    watch the band pretend to play and sing while they prance around doing stuff and being in places they couldn't possibly play and sing in.


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    Too true! LOL (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:59:51 PM EST
    Give me some kind of narrative, no matter how absurd or mundane.

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    I guess I am the only one who just simply can't (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by bridget on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:12:33 PM EST
    care less what obama is up to ... in the Veep department. And I haven't cared for weeks now. Months actually. Besides, No matter who it is in the end it will not make the world a better place. It just wont. So if I find out on the second to last day of the convention thats early enough for me.

    There. That's my narrative ;-)  

    While I'm back watching my Oly tape ....

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    Text message takes 4-6 HOURS (none / 0) (#72)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:25:19 PM EST
    according to John King on CNN just now, to get out to all the people who signed up.  He says that means they will almost certainly start sending out the message in the middle of the night so the vast majority will get it on their phones when they get up.

    R U kidding? (none / 0) (#99)
    by lmv on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:41:58 PM EST
    Way to generate buzz!  Text the kids at the best possible time to find them otherwise occupied.  (Sorry, when I was in BO's demographic, I wouldn't have been near the phone in the wee hours of Saturday morning.)  Do they seriously think the first thing these kids are going to do hungover or dressing sheepishly or what-evah is run to check who Barack's veep is?  

    Good thing I'm not on the list.  The first thing I do when I wake up is go back to sleep.  

    I know I'm not supposed to say it but ... I'm so over Obama I don't care who he picks.  Cheney could find a way to nominate himself again and I wouldn't bat an eye.  

    I've barely checked the headlines today because I was trying to avoid this story only to find out there was no story!

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    so some young supporter will (none / 0) (#105)
    by hellothere on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:44:39 PM EST
    get their text message after the event for announcing the veep is over? sounds right!

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    I do not think that is possible (none / 0) (#107)
    by SueBonnetSue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:13:37 PM EST


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    Hope the warm-up acts at Invesco Field ... (none / 0) (#85)
    by RonK Seattle on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:32:31 PM EST
    ... are better than this.

    I also thought today that perhaps (none / 0) (#96)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:58:31 PM EST
    the Obama campaign was waiting until MSNBC's olympic coverage signed off (like at 6PM central) and Tweety emerged with his show. Maybe they had an agreement with "His" network to wait and announce after their political stuff was back on the air? Can't wait for Tweety's new re-tingle to begin!

    I know most of you don't like him but catch (none / 0) (#101)
    by Christy1947 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:37:55 PM EST
    the Keith rerun at 10.  the intersection of the McCain house story and the stakeouts of everyone you ever heard of and several you haven't has produced a media frenzy that will make anyone smile,  and a lot of us howl and hoot happily, and at least Keith is willing to laugh at himself and all the others. Turn it on and laugh with him. It's a genuine riot, how well it's been played, even before the house, but watching the MSM jump sixty two hurdles and look so amazingly goofy, and then blend in all the staked out houses with the McCain house story is a moment to savor no matter what you think of the candidates. A moment to chill and just wail with free laughter. We can fight again tomorrow.  

    No one is watching the news on Saturday morning (none / 0) (#108)
    by SueBonnetSue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:16:31 PM EST
    They aren't checking email or text messages either.  

    Is that the point?  To minimize the coverage and buzz?  WHY?!  

    Of course it's Biden. (none / 0) (#109)
    by Jake Left on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:50:54 PM EST
    What is the least bold, most cautious move to make?.

    What selection would be most like the kind of choices that have cost us the last two elections?

    What candidate could we have that would most let the campaign avoid discussing the only successful Democrat in the last two decades?

    Biden

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