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Grrrrrrrr. Parent
My favorite moment of the night, when the tears just started to flow and flow, was when they showed Bill Clinton right before she started speaking and he mouthed, "I love you, I love you, I love you." He could not have looked more proud. Parent
Me, I smell fear, not just for the election, but for the viewers they'll NEVER get back. Parent
If Obama can't even get Democrats unified to vote for a Democrat, there's no reason to believe as President he could convince Republicans to support the agenda of the Democratic platform or foreign powers to support U.S. interests.
Obama got a convention bounce in Rasmussen today - he's tied with McCain. <sigh> Parent
Ah, the things that could have been. I suspect nothing will top this speech at the convention. Cannot wait for Bill Clinton now and especially loved Hillary mentioning Bill Clinton's years and cleaning up the Republican mess.
Obama and his flock have never mentioned that; maybe never will and that is a HUGE MISTAKE!! Bill Clinton deserves great credit and respect for the achievements of his presidency. Obama and his flock still pumping up Raegan. How very stupid. I think they believe they will stir up the Republicans to vote for Obama. Stupid!!!! It is the Democrats you still have to win over; it is the the Independants you still have to win over.
That is what I was thinking.
Nothing like walking into a punch. Parent
Now I have to carry some little greek columns around for when I talk politics. Parent
Sorry, I love Bill & Hill-they are smart, articulate, passionate, competent and truly committed to making things happen. UGGH, have to stop thinking about this.
I feel about BO like I did about Reagan-I never got why everyone thought he was such a great speaker-he always seemed to be fumbling for words unless he was completely scripted or in Reagan's case reading one of his Johnny Carson like jokes-facades without interiors. Parent
I am not going to support the notion that religion is a defense against being a homophobic bigot. I will not support a candidate that legitimizes homophobia as a viewspoint. Parent
Refused to have a picture of himself be taken with San Francisco Gavin Newsom, who had courageously performed gay marriages.
Opposes gay marriage on religious grounds.
Refused to do interviews with gay oriented media. Once he did, he responded to a question as to whether Obama admired any gay people by pointing to a professor of his in college. The reason behind Obama's admiration: the professor did not proselytize his gayness (unlike, the implication goes, other gays, who apparently do proselytize).
Strongly considered as a vice-presidential nominee, and gave the keynote address at the Democratic convention to, Tim Kaine, who opposes gay adoption and supports statewide anti-gay marriage equality amendments.
Sorry, if that is ok for you for to come from a Democratic presidential nominee in 2008, knock yourself out. Parent
This is the change I've been waiting for - a politician prepared to fight the good fight for the poor, the disadvantaged, for the causes that used to make America a beacon for "those huddled masses yearning to be free" from all over the world.
You had the chance. It was Hillary Clinton. You let her be shoved out of the race. You blew it. Parent
Please, today I'm back to way pissed. She's a good soldier-a better one than me, that's for sure. All her speech did was once again show why she is the superior leader, maybe not the superior cool, exciting candidate, but definitely the better, more serious, adult leader. Parent
I don't like Barack Obama, I don't like his tone, or his lack of substance. I don't like his VP, or most of his advisors. I don't like the way he ran his campaign. I don't like his supporters, who feel the need to lecture me, as if I'm an idiot. But, in spite of all that, I'm on board, and it has everything to do with the broad in Orange Pantsuit.
Since, I am now"on Board" I reserve the right to criticize, complain about his campaign, his supporters, his lack of experience, how much I despise his VP, his silly fake Presidential sseals, or anything else that I deem worthy of comment. That's the price of my vote. Get over it. Parent
Regardless, in case we don't take the WH, I am now the proud owner of the HRC12.com domain. Just in case....... Parent
In theology, intention counts. Sometimes in politics, too. But not in policy. Parent
I can't believe that much of the inside- Washington establishment of the Democratic party decided to put their personal interest in diminishing the political power of the Clintons -- and increasing their own control over the party -- over the best interest of the country. I can't believe that they chose THIS election to conduct intra-party warfare and used as their instrument a politician with great promise but so little experience and accomplishment that his nomination puts a Democratic win in November, even in these favorable-for-Democrats times, in jeopardy.
Those people that Clinton talked about last night and in whose interest she asked her supporters to cast their votes -- the single mother with cancer and no health insurance, the young Marine, the boy whose mother works for minimum wage -- were nowhere on the minds of ambitions losers like Kerry and Daschle and their associates, staffers, and big money men (whose support help Obama kick off his campaign with more money than any other primary candidate in history -- long before he had his online fundraising effort off the ground or had received even one penny from the "grassroots") when they encouraged Obama to challenge Clinton. They were nowhere on the mind of Dean, Brazile, Pelosi and the legacy-jealous Kennedys who put their support behind the effort to gain or re-gain power by destroying the Clinton legacy and fiddling with the levers of power to make the way easier for their chosen candidate. They were thinking about themselves and seeking to serve their own interest with a candidate who lacked the right qualifications for victory in November but possessed qualities that offered strategic advantages against Clinton in a Democratic primary -- qualities that more conventional inside-Washington candidates, like Biden and Dodd, did not. Their only thought beyond the primaries was the arrogant assumption that any Democratic was likely to win this time around, and the questionable assumption that affluent young, anti-war liberals and libertarian/Independent and moderate Republican voters will turn out for the Democrats in such historic and unprecedented numbers that they will make the votes of traditional working class Democratic constituencies unnecessary.
This is the thinking of people in a bubble. People so estranged from what is actually happening to the country and from the economic realities and experience of ordinary Americans that they genuinely believe the most important issues in this elections are the trivial and/or abstract issues of political "tone," bi-partisanship and generational "change." Things that affluent voters have the luxury of concerning themselves with -- and that are most important to economically protected inside-the-beltway players like themselves and the media pundits they chose to court over voter constituencies like working class Americans.
I agree that a Democratic victory in November is important -- especially for those constituencies Clinton most represented. Unfortunately, I don't believe that those Democrats who played on Obama's natural ambition and encouraged him to run before he had the record needed to make a winning argument for himself understood, or cared, about why it is so important. Or acted with that victory foremost in their minds. Parent
So, get over it. Those who are trying to right this wrong are the ones who are showing their desire to get the country back on track. Parent
I'm sitting here, still in awe of Hillary's speech and of the woman herself. Her speech was a work of brilliance. I'm waiting to see the transcript and go over it in detail. It was, first and foremost, a speech about politics. It had plenty of "human interest" and even humor in it. We most certainly got a look into the mind and heart of this woman. But what it was, from the first line to the last, was a full-force evocation of what it means to be a Democrat. In a season wehere we have been bombarded by bipartisan, everybody let's hug, don't say anything bad about the Republicans, don't be partisan be Obamacan, Unity Ponies for everyone balderdash, Hillary took the party by the scruff of its dithering neck and made it look at the reason we are a party in the first place.
Her speech was a work of brilliance. I'm waiting to see the transcript and go over it in detail. It was, first and foremost, a speech about politics. It had plenty of "human interest" and even humor in it. We most certainly got a look into the mind and heart of this woman. But what it was, from the first line to the last, was a full-force evocation of what it means to be a Democrat. In a season wehere we have been bombarded by bipartisan, everybody let's hug, don't say anything bad about the Republicans, don't be partisan be Obamacan, Unity Ponies for everyone balderdash, Hillary took the party by the scruff of its dithering neck and made it look at the reason we are a party in the first place.
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But does that turnip define what it's about to be a Democrat? That's what it takes to get my vote.
She's got more in common with McCain than many realize!
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All righty then. Parent
BTW Hillary's choice of pantsuit color was the subject of a segment on one of the morning shows today. They showed a number of suits of different colors and spoke about how the orange one was selected. Parent
Clinton will fight for it, but even though she's evidenctly expected to carry the party over the GE finish line, I've seen little to indicate reciprocation, in actual action. Parent
Michelle Obama certainly didn't mention gays. Will Barack?
From the information that's been available these past months, I'm not liking this person. And, given that, it concerns me that she clearly has a lot of power over her husband.
What bothers me more is that the Obama campaign decided to deal with this by bringing in image consultants to try to make her come off as Mrs. Happy Housewife. To me, that's just one more example of the sexism of Obama and his closest advisors. Parent
Sorry. I just don't like it. I'm not gonna like it.
If the situation was reversed I would probably, just what I would do, do nothing. I would be extremely sensitive to the possibility that Clinton making a better case for my candidate than my candidate can make for himself would be .... I would be aware of the over-simplified and immensely self-serving way it would appear.
And not to mention the whole way women are sometimes patted on the back when they take their secondary role.
Now. I know BTD's praise for Clinton's speech comes from a different perspective.
But I think Clinton explained why you should vote for Obama better than I ever could. Parent