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Oh Mercy! Percy! And Tebow! And the defense!

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    congrats BTD. Tebow came to life (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Teresa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 10:59:45 PM EST
    midway through the 3rd and Percy played like Percy. Great defensive stands. I hate Fox covering college football. I wish CBS had the coverage or even ESPN.

    Too many ACC whistles!

    Or ABC n/t (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by cal1942 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:11:10 PM EST
    Terribly officiated game (5.00 / 4) (#29)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:01:42 AM EST
    Fox is an embarrassment in every aspect of its broadcast and cable networks.

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    Wasn't it though . . . (none / 0) (#64)
    by Same As It Ever Was on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 08:16:15 AM EST
    some of the spots were horrible... and the review for clock issues were driving me crazy.

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    Glad you said that (none / 0) (#91)
    by cal1942 on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:30:54 PM EST
    I also thought that many of the spots were terrible.

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    No doubt... (none / 0) (#82)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 11:45:01 AM EST
    ...any network who hires Barry Switzer to do half-time "analysis" is very suspect in my view.  

    Congrats to your Gators--don't throw out your shoulder doing the gator chomp thing today!

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    What a gutsy performance by Harvin.... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Same As It Ever Was on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:00:01 PM EST
    We are the boys from old Florida
    F-L-O-R-I-D-A
    Where the girls are the fairest,
    The boys are the squarest
    Of any old state down our way

    We are all strong for old Florida
    Down where the old Gators play
    In all kinds of weather
    We'll all stick together
    for F-L-O-R-I-D-A

    We could use a (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:01:03 AM EST
    little music with those lyrics

    Go Gators

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    Lame song, o.k. band, but you must (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:40:46 AM EST
    be really happy w/the win.

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    Assuming Tebow returns for (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:35:15 AM EST
    his senior year, will Percy also?  How about if Tebow opts for NFL?  

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    If Tebow goes, (none / 0) (#63)
    by Same As It Ever Was on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 08:13:56 AM EST
    so do Harvin and Spikes for sure.

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    Boy that's nicer than the Bama fans sing (none / 0) (#4)
    by Teresa on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:01:33 PM EST
    after a game. This was my first year sitting surrounded by them and their song scared the crap out of me.

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    But you can dance to it (none / 0) (#32)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:35:16 AM EST
    You should try it from the other side of the field.  It's fun.

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    The South Carolina chant... (none / 0) (#77)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:46:38 AM EST
    ...always makes me giggle.  Especially at the bar when they start in with it--half the people shouting "Game!" and the other half "C*cks!"

    /is easily amused

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    Congratulations (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by cal1942 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:09:04 PM EST
    Florida faithful.

    Percy! And Tebow! And the defense!

    Perfect analysis BTD.

    Special bonus: the blue state beat the red state.


    Congrats! (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by nycstray on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:09:46 PM EST
    I watched the last few minutes. It was kinda fun for me, who's not a college football watcher*, since I could see the "right" team was winning.

    * I went to art school, the 9ers were my college football team, lol!~  ;) And yes, I got to go to a game on school sponsored trip. Shoulda seen the banner we made in the parking lot before going in. It involved throwing paint and using fingers/hands  ;)

    Great Game!!!! (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Amiss on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:24:15 PM EST
    So proud of our Gators!

    Very impressive (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Steve M on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:42:20 PM EST
    Former Red Wings coach Jacques Demers once said, "Great players come true."  Tebow and Harvin came true for the Gators tonight.  Their stars played like stars.

    The game was really won on defense though, particularly the goal-line stand in the first half and the interception to close the half.  If Oklahoma has a halftime lead, maybe it's a different game.

    Tebow is ridiculously overpromoted but he will still go down as one of the great winners in college football history, no matter how much the announcers try to ruin it by going on and on.  That speech after the Mississippi game requires no comment.

    Harvin and Tebow (5.00 / 3) (#33)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:38:52 AM EST
    The two best offensive skill players in college football.

    Believe it or not, Harvin was nowhere near full speed.  He got in footraces twice and lost badly both times. That would NEVER happen if he were healthy.

    He still had a nice burst, though.

    Tebow's passing was off as badly as I have ever seen him in the first half, and I watch him play every chance I get.  But he was pure gold in the fourth quarter, an unstoppable force.

    Harvin kept Florida in the game, then Tebow put the dagger in the heart there in the 4th.

    I heard Tebow will never make it as (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:47:57 AM EST
    a quarterback in the NFL because he throws left-handed.  Is that true.  And does it make that much difference?

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Steve M on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:18:29 AM EST
    Steve Young was a left-handed quarterback, so I dunno if that's really the dispositive factor.  Oh, and like Tebow, he ran a lot!

    Appalachian State also had a left-handed quarterback, you know.  (Couldn't resist.)

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    How did they do this year, BTW? (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:25:28 AM EST
    Heard the ESPN football guys opining on the top five NCAA teams for next year.  One guy sd.:  what about Michigan?  No response.

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    I believe (none / 0) (#51)
    by Steve M on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:00:14 AM EST
    that Michigan has a reasonable chance to finish in the top five next year, assuming of course we are talking about the Big Ten standings...

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    Ha. Actually, I'm getting some (none / 0) (#53)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:02:45 AM EST
    pleasure remembering how U of M wiped out the Gators in the Outback Bowl last January.  

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    BTW, at the retirement dinner tonight (none / 0) (#54)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:04:09 AM EST
    I asked my friend, who is from MI but didn't "go" to MI, about this year's team.  He specifically mentioned how disheartening the U of M/MSU game was.  

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    lol!~ first thing that hit my brain (none / 0) (#48)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:52:59 AM EST
    when reading left handed QB . . .  Steve Young. If I dig through my old work photos, I think I have a pic of him using his lefty skills  ;)

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    Here's the research: (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:14:54 AM EST
    Michael Vick (none / 0) (#58)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:22:41 AM EST
    I hope his south paw career R.I.P.

    thanks for the link :)

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    Boomer Esiason... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:19:58 AM EST
    And Kenny 'The Snake' Stabler were lefties, I don't think that is the issue...I think scouts are down on Tebow because he's not that tall and not your typical "pocket passer"...the same bias that has kept many a prolific NCAA superstar QB from getting a fair shake in the NFL in the modern era.

    Maybe its hubris, NFL coaches think they can teach pyshical specimens how to become football players...there is a list of NFL busts a mile long to prove that thinking wrong though.

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    Check out this article (none / 0) (#108)
    by otherlisa on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 07:03:36 PM EST
    on "The Quarterback Problem" by Gladwell. It's not his leftyness, it's the difference in offensive styles between pro and college games - apparently predicting the success of an NFL quarterback based on college performance is nearly impossible.

    I found this fascinating!

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    Definately a crap shoot. (none / 0) (#112)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:03:23 PM EST
    The GM's have a pretty specific list of the  physical features they're looking for, but can't account for injuries or "toughness".  They have an idea of the leadership/mental/emotional qualities they want, but can't measure the willingness to put the time and effort that it takes to learn and master a professional offensive play-book or how fast someone will mature.  

    And they've never been able to measure determination, desire and heart--just like they can't tell exactly what the sudden influx of millions of dollars or the fame that comes with being in the show will do to a person.

    It's usually the intangables that determine how successful someone will be in the NFL.

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    Wasn't (none / 0) (#89)
    by cal1942 on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:27:11 PM EST
    Ken Stabler (Oakland Raiders via Alabama) a southpaw?

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    The Defense (none / 0) (#79)
    by Pepe on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:58:08 AM EST
    is what won the game.

    Anyone who knows how to watch a football game knows that is was D that won the game. Had Florida's D not stepped up in the first half and Stopped OK then OK would have won the game.

    As I argued in many threads when talking about USC's D and how they deserved to be in that game - not one or both of the teams that played lasty night - it was D that would win the game last night. And it did.

    Speaking of USC, the final coaches poll placed USC #2 which is at least where they should have been in the first place. But I suppose it took the exposure of all the other teams, including Florida and Oklahoma, that they were not quite up to the standards that people thought they were to shake some sense into the coaches. Even the AP, who still got it wrong placed USC #3, placing Utah ahead of them which is a joke but what would one expect from a declining corp of sportswriters - if you can even call them that these days. More like shock jocks in print is what we have today.

    There is a lot being talked about today about how broken the BCS is. Last nights game proved it. Even though the D did win the game it was a very sloppily played game and not the caliber one would expect for a Championship game. Both teams were and are grossly overrated. There are even some threatened law suits from some quarters complaining that teams like Utah don't even have a chance to play for the championship because of the conference they are in. Good point. 10 Heisman Trophy winners all agreed the system needs fixing badly. But in the end sports politics and money will make sure not a thing is changed. The east coast bias will continue and we will have to live with the fact that we will never see a true National Champ. As I said a few days ago we will see a bowl game played but not a national championship game played. A day after the fact that still holds true.


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    I thought it was a heckuva game (none / 0) (#96)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:03:37 PM EST
    I'd love to see a playoff, though.  Teams like Texas, USC & Utah have legit beefs that they didn't get a chance to play for it on the field.

    Unfortunately we don't have that.  IMO, the two best teams played last night, but that's just an opinion.  It would be far better to settle it on the field than to rely on opinions.

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    Was Bradford hampered by his coaches? (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by cymro on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 03:23:21 AM EST
    To me, he looked best when he was operating in hurry-up mode, in the second quarter. Whenever he waited for the play to be called from the sideline, it gave the Florida defense (more) time to prepare, and the result was not nearly as effective.

    Several times, when a play was changed from the sideline, it looked as if Bradford then telegraphed the play by the way he was signaling to the backs or receivers, because the defense reacted and stopped the play for a loss.

    When he played in a true no-huddle style, there was no extra time for the Florida defense to prepare -- they were barely able to get back to the line for the next play. So I was puzzled why the coaches didn't get Bradford to run the offense like that more often in the second half.

    tebow is the most entertaining (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Jlvngstn on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:39:38 PM EST
    college football player since herschel walker.  what a fun game to watch....

    congrayulations (none / 0) (#3)
    by jes on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:00:48 PM EST
    :) you've done it again. If it can't be the buckeyes - go gators.

    Told ya (none / 0) (#5)
    by SOS on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:02:37 PM EST
    Time to pay up

    Great game (none / 0) (#6)
    by talesoftwokitties on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:05:23 PM EST
    Oklahoma blew some chances in the first half, but Florida just outplayed them in the second.  

    Nice (none / 0) (#7)
    by squeaky on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:06:34 PM EST
    Saw the game out of the corner of my eye at the local pub, and once I found out which color the gators were I rooted for them, although I missed quite a bit of the game.

    One thing that I did see that was amazing is that a sooner missed a pass and a gator ran by and just picked the ball off the ground not missing a step, as if the football was a toothpick. He must have really big hands.

    I got lucky (none / 0) (#12)
    by nycstray on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:13:03 PM EST
    the camera did a closeup on the players shortly after I switched it on, so I could identify the Gators, lol!~

    I originally switched over at halftime. OY! The band . . .

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    How Could You Tell (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:31:45 PM EST
    From a closeup? Can you identify individual players?

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    Team name on the helmet ;) (none / 0) (#24)
    by nycstray on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:54:13 PM EST
    I was rooting for OK as the underdog (none / 0) (#8)
    by magster on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:07:23 PM EST
    until that cheap horse-collar tackle that injured # 3 in the first half.  Congrats, Gators.

    That looked bad... (none / 0) (#68)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:22:36 AM EST
    but I seriously doubt it was intentional, and hence I wouldn't call it cheap...it ain't easy to control where you hand lands when chasing a guy from behind at full speed.  If he hesitates and doesn't make the tackle the guy might bust it all the way.

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    i was just reviewing the stats. (none / 0) (#14)
    by cpinva on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:28:49 PM EST
    UF was nearly equal in the offensive stats dept., not wholly relying on either rushing or passing to move the ball. makes it tough for a defense to key in on one or the other.

    i also noticed that tebow, the qb, was the leading rusher. assuming (and i am) that he's drafted in april, they'll beat that foolishness out of him in the NFL.

    he's going to have to learn to be more of a pocket type passer, if he expects to live more than a season.

    as well, UF's punting game was vastly superior to OU's receiving game. i expect their punter will be a late round draft pick also.

    all that said, utah should have been playing UF tonite, not OU. sorry OU fans.

    congrats BTD.

    Tebow (none / 0) (#18)
    by lobary on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:39:56 PM EST
    No future as an NFL quarterback. He's a less athletic Vince Young.

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    i seem to recall a guy, (none / 0) (#65)
    by cpinva on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:14:05 AM EST
    short guy, not real big, played for the vikings for a few years. that was said about him as well.

    i believe the guy's name was, um..........tarkinton. yeah, yeah, that was it, fran tarkinton.

    wasn't very good though, as i recall.

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    Different time... (none / 0) (#71)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:38:54 AM EST
    ...and a different game.  Back in Fran's day, there weren't any 6'8' 300+ linemen that he had to throw over.  Everyone was short by today's standards.  

    Heck, John Unitas--the greatest QB ever was only 6'1", which is considered small these days.  

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    Ryan Leaf was tall but he (none / 0) (#84)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 11:58:25 AM EST
    bombed fast.

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    Ryan Leaf bombed... (none / 0) (#86)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:13:08 PM EST
    ...not because of his physical stature, but because of his mental instability/immaturity and inability to deal with the harsh spotlight that is the life an NFL QB.  

    He's apparently more well adjusted now and doing well being a coach at a small time program out of the spotlight.

    Some people just aren't cut out for the big time--no matter how long their overbearing father programs them to be.  

    Not to mention that the NFL is a far, far cry from college football. Just look at the success rate of Heisman winners in the NFL.  

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    Wiki says Leaf is no longer (none / 0) (#90)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:28:53 PM EST
    at West TX A & M, after he asked a player for a pill.  

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    Well, that is too bad. (none / 0) (#93)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:35:18 PM EST
    I almost feel sorry for him, but he's gotten more chances to get his life on track than most people do.

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    I do feel some sympathy for him. (none / 0) (#94)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:45:54 PM EST
    I was at the Rose Bowl game where he seemed to have forever and a day to throw each pass.  Unreal, although his team lost and you-know-who won.  

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    You-know-who? (none / 0) (#95)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:53:35 PM EST
    Would that be the team that I hear doesn't care if they loose to a certain ag-school as long as they beat OSU?

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    The fate of coaches rests on OSU result. (none / 0) (#99)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:32:06 PM EST
    Which ought to make... (none / 0) (#100)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:36:08 PM EST
    ...next season most interesting, no?  

    Although, I don't think losing to MSU is going to help Coach Rich too very much either.

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    Coach Rich had better step it (none / 0) (#101)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:37:36 PM EST
    up quick.  The natives are restless.

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    Tebow (none / 0) (#97)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:12:01 PM EST
    is much, much, much, much more accurate as a passer than Young.

    Tebow's problem is his slow delivery, but with his deadly passing accuracy and ability to avoid the rush I've got good money that says he will do just fine in the NFL.  He has a great work ethic, so he will do what he has to do to tailor his game to the challenge.

    It will probably take him a year or two to adjust, though.

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    Riiiight. (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:30:28 PM EST
    Because in the NFL, the game is played at a much slower pace than in college.  And he won't be facing the best of the best week in and week out.

    Not to mention, there is a good chance he'll end up playing for a great team like the Lions.

    After all, with the Lord and Savior on his side, how can he lose?  

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    Well (none / 0) (#102)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:43:39 PM EST
    I've been watching football for 47 years now, and Tebow is one of the most accurate passers I've ever seen.  Weighing 250 and being built like a Mack truck won't hurt him any, either.

    I'll be very surprised if he doesn't succeed in the NFL.

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    Crazy kool aid talk (none / 0) (#105)
    by lobary on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 03:24:29 PM EST
    If Tim Tebow is one of the most accurate passers you've ever seen, where does Colt McCoy rank?

    After all, the Heisman runner-up only managed to break the NCAA completion percentage record by completing a staggering 77.6 percent of his pass attempts.

    And McCoy doesn't have Percy Harvin.

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    If we're talking just about passing (none / 0) (#106)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 03:36:41 PM EST
    I can see putting Tebow behind McCoy, Bradford AND Harrell (who may be the best of the three on a good day).

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    You're pretty close to spot-on... (none / 0) (#111)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 08:33:39 PM EST
    ...according to this non-scientific polling of America's Monday morning GM's.  They add Mark Sanchez to the mix with the "Big 3".

    Interesting how it does seem to reflect regional alliances in the vote distribution.  Although, who knew there are so many Texas fans in Vermont and North Dakota?

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    McCoy's pass efficiency rating (none / 0) (#109)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 07:06:07 PM EST
    is only a few points ahead of Tebow's, even though McCoy played in the Big No-D 12 and Tebow played in the SEC.

    If you take the more meaningful comparison as to how each QB compares to his peers, i.e., the other QBs who throw in the same league against the same Ds, there are half a dozen QBs in the Big 12 who are within statistical shouting distance of McCoy and only a couple in the SEC within earshot of Tebow.

    Although I don't really take my opinion of Tebow's passing from stats.  I have watched him a lot, and I trust my judgment on that.  He is very very good.

    He was at his worst in the first half last night.  The way he played in the second half is much more representative of his normal play.

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    Check the NYorker article (none / 0) (#110)
    by otherlisa on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 07:06:37 PM EST
    I cited above. It's really interesting and made me understand differences between the college and the pro game that I didn't get before.

    One of the biggies is working out of the shotgun - did either of the qb's last night take a snap that wasn't from the shotgun? you can't do this every play in the NFL.

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    Congrats, Gators. (none / 0) (#15)
    by santarita on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:31:41 PM EST
    Bradford looked psychotic or overcoached.  It was high drama to see if he could get the ball snapped before the play clock struck zero.  He did not convey composure.

    On the other hand, the announcers had obviously canonized Tebow before the game started and by the end of the game, Tebow was going to save the economy and get us out of Ira, Afghanistan and fix health care,  Obama should put him in as chief of staff.  Between St. Tebow and Nervous Sam, the game was less fun than it might have been.

    For the most part, it looked like OU didn't belong on the same field as Florida.  Serious overmatch.

    Ah, interesting about the announcers (none / 0) (#23)
    by nycstray on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:45:41 PM EST
    When I tuned in they were talking about how he was even more impressive off field, living in an orphanage, going to various countries on missions etc. I thought it was just "a little background". Glad I missed the full canonization! I was a bit peeved by the "John 3:16" cheek patches . . .  I can handle a thanks to "whoever" after a game/win just like the "required" GBA from politicians, but that's as far as I want religion to go in my sports and government  ;)

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    Gave me chills... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by santarita on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:56:48 PM EST
    the way they blathered on about him.  Made me wonder about how the rest of the team feels about Tebow.  Probably call him Mary Poppins, Practically Perfect in Every Way.

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    Oy. Really glad I missed it (none / 0) (#30)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:09:28 AM EST
    Kind of a shame they go over the top on him. It's fun watching games where they go over the top on a player because he's just having one heck of a special day (and it's freakin' obvious and great to watch), even if it's on top of a good overall season. But the basic "we've decided he's special and will let you know at every turn" blathering on irks me to no end.

    Poor guy ends up being set up, lol!~

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    Usually, when you're on the team . . . (none / 0) (#36)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:41:29 AM EST
    If the guy wins games for you, you cut him some slack on his character flaws.

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    Here is Bill Plaschke, known as (none / 0) (#92)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:31:07 PM EST
    the LAT sports columnist with the bleeding heart, on Tebow:  Plaschke

    I wonder if OU football players knew Tebow was doing circumcisions on kids?

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    Pretty underwhelming game (none / 0) (#17)
    by lobary on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:35:40 PM EST
    Big Choke Job gave the game to Florida with those goal line calls.

    Thom Brennaman was a national embarrassment tonight with his constant Tebow jocksniffing.

    The standard was set early on when he gushed "if you spend five minutes with Tim Tebow, your life is better for it."

    Btw Texas beat the same OU team on a neutral field by the exact same margin.

    I met a guy who went to HS (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Same As It Ever Was on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:44:13 PM EST
    with Tebow and he said that the general consensus of people who know the kid is that he's really a special individual.

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    Lobary's got a point (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Trickster on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:40:14 AM EST
    On the other hand, you really do have to be impressed with a 20-year-old who has lived in an orphanage and a leper colony.

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    Oh of course he is! (none / 0) (#25)
    by lobary on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:54:36 PM EST
    He's Tim Tebow!

    Nobody could ever try harder! Nobody could ever push himself further! Nobody could ever make his teammates be the best players they could be!

    Only Tim Tebow, because Tim Tebow's faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is unmatched by any man who has ever done battle on the football field.

    We are blessed that we get to see this so very special young man play the game of college football. My life is better for it.

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    Heh (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:00:50 AM EST
    It is annoying how Tebow is covered.

    Heck of a football player though.

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    ESPN radio seemed to be (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:45:31 AM EST
    more disposed to favor Oklahoma.

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    That would be Brent Musburger (none / 0) (#62)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 06:18:47 AM EST
    Worst announcer in history.

    And I thought so long before last night.

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    true enough. (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by cpinva on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:21:26 AM EST
    It is annoying how Tebow is covered.

    however, in fairness to young mr. tebow, he isn't the one responsible for it, the media is.

    from everything i've read and seen, he is a genuinely nice kid, who's teammates both like and respect him, as well as the coaches.

    it's really kind of unfair, in my not-so-humble opinion, to lay the idiocy of the announcers on him. i kind of doubt he had any input into what they said.

    for all i know, he could be the anti-christ in private (wears a special helmet, to keep the horns from rubbing), but if so, give him all due credit for an excellent job of hiding it, from everyone.

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    Well, I guess a little bit... (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:30:31 AM EST
    ...of evil sneaked out when he got called for that unsportsman-like conduct flag for taunting late in the game.  

    Don't think he'll be getting Sainthood just quite yet.  

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    Missionaries are terribly disturbing (none / 0) (#74)
    by sallywally on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:18 AM EST
    to me. They are out there trying to "save" people from their own local beliefs instead of honoring and learning from those.

    If they genuinely want to help people, they should honor their beliefs and just help them in ways they actually need it.

    I find it deeply offensive that people are still doing this. IMO, It's exactly as though they were in gay bars "loving the people but hating their sins."

    If they are not consciously arrogant, they are too blinded to the world (including the spiritual one) to know how dishonorable their attitudes are.

    BTW, the "our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" reminds me of Kiefer Sutherland in "A Few Good Men." Very scary.

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    Unsportsmanlike indeed (none / 0) (#104)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 03:04:39 PM EST
    What you saw was Tim Tebow rebuking Satan and all his works.

    And most of us are the better for having witnessed it.

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    True enough (none / 0) (#75)
    by lobary on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:19 AM EST
    I agree that blame should go to the gaschebags at ESPN and Fox for their over-the-top Tebow mancrushing, but Tebow's sideline antics are pretty damn annoying.

    "I AM SUCH A COMPETITOR I CANNOT HELP MYSELF FROM WAVING MY ARMS LIKE A SPAZZ!!"

    Is that any way for the Son of God to behave?

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    bear in mind, (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by cpinva on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 06:25:11 PM EST
    Is that any way for the Son of God to behave?

    the young jesus was a tad annoying and arrogant as well. he didn't officially start his "mission" until he was 30, and a bit more mature. perhaps "dad" had that planned all along?

    at 20, mr. tebow is yet a man-child, with a bit of growing up to do. as well, football is just a game, having no real effect on the rest of the world.

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    As a Tennessee fan... as in UT (none / 0) (#19)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:41:47 PM EST
    Congrats. Now. Would you please send Tebow on mission or something...

    Really impressed.

    I would just like to note (none / 0) (#22)
    by digdugboy on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:45:14 PM EST
    that articles about the Florida Gators are unusually appropriate for this blog, since that school is one vast and lawless criminal enterprise.

    That school should be shut down via a RICO lawsuit.

    That is all.

    Please explain "sweep": (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:21:37 AM EST
    Here (none / 0) (#42)
    by squeaky on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:27:02 AM EST
    Ha. So--Percy takes the (none / 0) (#43)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:29:42 AM EST
    ball from the center.  Does he carry it?  I gather a "pitch" requires the player who takes the ball from the center to toss it to another player but a "sweep" doesn't--just a run to the side and then forward ASAP.

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    I Think (none / 0) (#45)
    by squeaky on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:41:34 AM EST
    The runner carries the ball and a bunch of big guys run along with him on the diagonal, blocking all would be tacklers who are in the way.

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    Great technical term (none / 0) (#46)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:48:32 AM EST
    "a bunch of big guys", lol!~  ;)


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    Seems to me if that bunch of big (none / 0) (#47)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:50:06 AM EST
    guys isn't exceedingly fast, Percy would pass them by. Plus, the photo just shows Percy and another slim fellow.

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    Well (none / 0) (#49)
    by Steve M on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:53:42 AM EST
    Ideally the big guys knock some defenders over and Percy scoots through the resulting hole.  It's a more mobile version of what the offensive line does on every running play.

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    Haven't seen the photo (none / 0) (#50)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 01:57:38 AM EST
    but in my couch potato experience, the "big guys" stop the "other big guys" and the "more speedy" stop the "other more speedy". And then you have those "special" situations where either the QB or Kicker are the "last man standing" to save the play  ;)

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    Your Are Right (none / 0) (#55)
    by squeaky on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:07:06 AM EST
    Most of the big guys are knocked down early on, but some slim guys have to stay with the runner to block going down the field.

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    Credit my pops (none / 0) (#56)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:14:26 AM EST
    and in the overall pic, both my parents ;)

    Dad and I started on football when I was 8-9ish. Mom respected the process ;)

    There's almost nothing better than seeing a big guy "run it back!" after an interception or fumble. Will . . He . . . Go . . All . . THE . .WAY?!

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    Final AP poll: Fl #1, (none / 0) (#52)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 02:00:48 AM EST
    Utah #2.  USC is going to go ballistic.

    donald, (none / 0) (#69)
    by cpinva on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 09:27:38 AM EST
    i am in full agreement, utah has my vote for #1. you don't go undefeated, even in a "weak" conference, without being an exceptional team, at any level.

    if there were a just god, utah would have played UF last night, not OU.

    i say we go back to human sacrifice, to baal!

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    Gotta credit the Utes for a fine (none / 0) (#72)
    by brodie on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:03:12 AM EST
    undefeated season.  In a fairer system, they would easily be among the 8 teams vying in a playoff setup to prove they are the best.  Now, as for this

    Utah and USC faced one common opponent, Oregon State, during the regular season. Despite closing the point gap very late in that game, USC was beaten relatively soundly by the Beavers. Only six days later, Utah rallied in the last minute and beat that very same Oregon State team.

    let's not forget one important fact:  USC had to face OSU on the latter's very unfriendly home turf -- where in 2006 they also lost -- while Utah got to play the upset-minded underdog Beavers in Salt Lake City and barely came away with a narrow last-minute victory.

    But as for UF arranging for an easy non-conference schedule and not having to travel far during the season, check.  Playing mostly at home or in state and lining up creampuff teams like Charleston Southern should actually result, in a just system, in serious points being deducted from UF's overall rating.

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    Florida's non-conference schedule (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:42:27 AM EST
    included Miami, Florida State and Hawaii.

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    I wouldn't consider Hawaii (none / 0) (#81)
    by brodie on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 11:34:52 AM EST
    a major non-conf threat when you get to play them at home and at a time of day when the UH players' internal time-clocks say it's really 4 a.m.  Having to play Hawaii in the islands would though be a solid n-c matchup.  It would force UF to travel far, for a change, and we'd get to see how they play when their own clocks say it's really midnight.

    As for Miami and FSU, for sure they are quality opponents and this is not like scheduling The Citadel (!), which UF played this season iirc.  But otoh both Miami and FSU are hardly the powerhouse teams they were in the 80s and 90s, and Bobby Bowden is about a decade past his prime.

    The point stands -- any major college team lining up at least one n-c creampuff should have major points deducted in the ratings.

    Meantime, looks like USC (no, not my alma mater) has scheduled a trip to Ohio State next season.  Well out of their home region and against a major collegiate program that almost always is in the running for a championship (shades of their historic long rivalry against once-great ND).  Of course, for Pac-10 hampered USC, risky games like that, if successful, are almost required these days to make up for the P-10's lack of recognition.

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    UF is in the SEC (none / 0) (#78)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:56:08 AM EST
    I don't have their schedule but for sure they play
    TN, SC, GA, KY and Vanderbilt every year. This year they also plated Ole Miss who beat them. Ole Miss later went and beat some team from Texas in a bowl game.... ;-)

    And to get to last nights game they had to beat AL who also was undefeated in the SEC Championship. AL had beat LSU, MSU, AR, Ole Miss. Auburn and TN (annual grudge game).

    Year in and year out the SEC is the toughest conference in the country.

    And I am not. Repeat not aa Florida fan.

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    I can almost walk and chew gum (none / 0) (#80)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 11:01:44 AM EST
    at the same time..

    That's...they had to beat AL who was undefeated before the SEC Championship...

    And I am not A Florida fan.

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    Why, you ask? Because they're (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:14:05 PM EST
    USC.

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    Serious academic school (none / 0) (#61)
    by rea on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 04:12:16 AM EST
    Well, speaking as an OU graduate, I guess my fellow alumni and I can to take consolation in having gone to a serious academic school, not some darn football factory like Florida . . .

    Or, maybe not . . . :)

    I hate to brag, but yours truly (none / 0) (#73)
    by brodie on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 10:16:46 AM EST
    called this one exactly a day or two ago -- UF by 10.  

    And he noted two reasons why UF would prevail:  1) the double-threat of Thibeaux, and 2) the overall superior speed/athletic ability of UF on both sides of the ball eventually wearing down OU.  

    These factors indeed were the difference.  Including on the key defensive stand late in the 1st half where OU -- very unimaginatively and stubbornly -- tried 4 times to run it in but were stopped by a swarming, stronger UF squad.

    And Thibeaux finally came through in the 2d half in displaying his outstanding ability to run, while OU, strangely, seemed to forget that first priority is to stop the person with the ball, and not his other options.

    By rule of law, under the current suspect system, UF is entitled to call itself #1 this season.  Very talented team, and well coached.  

    I noticed it was very quiet... (none / 0) (#83)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 11:48:35 AM EST
    ...around here last night during the game.  Where were all of those who claim to not enjoy football?

    As I said earlier on this very blog--defense wins championships and that certainly was the case last night.  And the Big 12 and their reliance on outscoring their opponents fell apart when faced with a team that actually plays defense.  

    Still and all, I didn't see anything last night to convince me that Utah wouldn't have had a chance to beat either of the two teams.  

    /fix your championship, NCAA!

    Speaking for me only, I was at (none / 0) (#85)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:09:13 PM EST
    a wonderful retirement party.  Thought, after driving to the party whilst listening to ESPN radio coverage, I'd duck into the bar to see if OU managed to get that early second quarter touchdown.  But--no TV in the bar, so on to the party.  No one at the party mentioned the game, which was kind of surprising.

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    Probably a lot of folks switched over post-game (none / 0) (#88)
    by brodie on Fri Jan 09, 2009 at 12:15:06 PM EST
    to watch The History Channel's interesting "Nostradamus and 2012" ...

    Otherwise, yes, it's almost always going to be the best defensive team which prevails (one rare exception being the no-D 2000 St Louie Rams).  

    UF just had too many good athletes and with speed, while OU was unimaginative when they needed to be clever, and generally failed to use their hurry-up offense to rapid advantage -- instead, it was usually the hurry up and wait offense.

    Credit to UF for a fine 2d half comeback on offense, and for that DB playmaker who stole the ball from the OU receiver.  And Thibeaux eventually lived up to his billing ...