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Ras "Now" A GOP Hack?

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:18:54 PM EST
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Kos wrote two strange things about Rasmussen:

"I don't know if Ras' turn to wingnutia has affected their basic election polling yet [. . .]" and "now that Rasmussen has decided to skew questions in order to advance the conservative agenda[.]"

(Emphasis supplied.) Turn? Now? Ras has been a GOP hack since he started. What is this "now" and "turn to" stuff?

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    Maybe (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:56:21 PM EST
    Maybe KOS didn't previously consider Rasmussen right-wing because KOS still harbors some right-wingism? (I think he does).  KOS is still exploring/inventing his own inner "progressive".  And yes, I'm saying that from the perspective of a member of the "women's studies set".

    Regardless, I find it amusing when one wingnut (left or right) harps against another for wing-nuttia.  It's almost Onionish in its irony.

    I often go Cheeto-side just for the humor.

    The pie fight really was not so funny after all (none / 0) (#14)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 03:06:25 PM EST
    And what's up with Camille Paglia?  Is she the female version of Sully?

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    Camille Paglia (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Spamlet on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 04:32:26 PM EST
    has been a hack since at least the moment she went off her meds. Personally, and quite seriously, I believe she's a misogynist male in a female body. It happens.

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    "distancing"? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:23:32 PM EST


    I've found the 538 v. Strategic Vision feud (none / 0) (#2)
    by magster on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:25:02 PM EST
    much more interesting than the supposed Rasmussen philosophy change.

    I found it boring (none / 0) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:27:25 PM EST
    Strategic Vision is a GOP hack1 Stop the presses!!

    Sorry, a more meaningless feud could not be found.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#5)
    by magster on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:32:14 PM EST
    I thought SV's poll on OK high school student responses on a citizenship exam that set-off Silver's BS detector, and the subsequent digging into the pollster's "results" was interesting.  To each their own...

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    Indeed (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:33:20 PM EST
    To each their own.

    If you ever took seriously an SV poll on ANYTHING, that was foolish of you.

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    Well (none / 0) (#7)
    by Steve M on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:37:37 PM EST
    as you established with your Harwood post the other day, there is a big difference between a pollster which frames questions in a biased way and a pollster which out-and-out fabricates results.

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    Not really (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:40:55 PM EST
    A quote is a quote.

    A poll is a result that can be preordained by ANY pollster.

    Did SV take a shortcut to fabricating a polls result? Looks like it. But that is no different than  what Ras or Fox or Zogby do? Just a different technique.

    Relevant universe, likely voters, sampling. All of these are just code words for fixing a result for the unscrupulous pollster.

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    Zogby (none / 0) (#15)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 03:07:22 PM EST
    He really makes no sense--except he does get headlines...

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    Frankly (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:27:32 PM EST
    I was suprrised when Kos' started lauding Ras. Ras was the one that did that horrible Portrait of America poll wasnt he?

    I think the Ras head-to-heads are ok (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:45:40 PM EST
    provided they're reasonably close to the election. Otherwise, I think he's ignorable.

    Oh, and he does an odd party weight thing (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:46:10 PM EST
    that I think is methodologically suspect.

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    A new Ras? (none / 0) (#12)
    by christinep on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 02:59:35 PM EST
    Probably same old. Yet, in the past--and, at a distance--Rasmussen might pass as somewhere only a bit off the median (to the right, i.e.) But now: With the preordained "methodology" in recent several months, Ras is predictably several points lower than most when polling presidential approval numbers and others related to the administration's agenda. Predictably, also, Ras results serve to bring down the President's numbers down on such "compilations" as Real Clear Politics & whatnot. Pathetic.

    Rasmussen (none / 0) (#13)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 03:04:42 PM EST
    had some pretty good polling in past Presidential races.  This time around he under-represented Obama's support by about 1% or so....but on the day of the election he said he was dead on.  But after ALL the votes came in, he was not so dead on.

    Compared to the others, Rasmussen was not really that much better.  Some overestiamted Obama's support by a couple of points...

    Now, Rasmussen seems to have gone way out there--adapting to meet the expectations of an increasinlgy radical Republican fringe.

    For those of us born before election day 2008 (none / 0) (#17)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 04:57:46 PM EST
    we know better about Ras.

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