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The Yankees play the Twins tonight (6:07 ET) in the Bronx. I think the 5 game series format is awful. Baseball, where GREAT teams lose 1 out of 3 games, should not shorten the test period. In football, the best team wins 3 out of 4 at least. In the playoffs, it is 4 out of 5. All MLB playoff series should be 4 out of 7.

In the big news of the day, Tim Tebow practiced again today, but Florida coach Urban Meyer said Tebow's participation in Saturday night's game at Baton Rouge will be a gametime decision. I won't lie to you, I'm nervous about this one. More on Saturday about Florida-LSU, Bama-Ole Miss and all the big games this weekend in the Saturday Football Thread.

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    @ least MLB has a national playoff. (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:35:25 PM EST


    Rockies 0, Phils 0, bottom of the 4th (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:38:10 PM EST
    Go Rockies!

    I agree on the 5 game series. Baseball already has the virtue of only 8 teams in the playoffs - that is where you get any time savings you need. Play the 7 games, for pete's sake!

    Is this game on TV or radio? (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:39:13 PM EST
    It's on ESPN Radio... (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by desertswine on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:37:01 PM EST
    if you can find your local affiliate, you can prob listen to it on your computer, as I am.

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    ESPN Radio... (none / 0) (#71)
    by desertswine on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:02:53 PM EST
    will be broadcasting all the playoff games.

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    Lee cruising, Phils up 5-0 in the 8th, (none / 0) (#76)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:11:46 PM EST
    Cleveland fans, think of what you gave up when your team traded away Cliff Lee.  It was moments like these.

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    not sure (none / 0) (#23)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:55:17 PM EST
    I'm looking on mlb.com

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    Just found it on TBS. (none / 0) (#27)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:57:46 PM EST
    The problem is (none / 0) (#4)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:40:16 PM EST
    weather makes it really problematic to extend the baseball season any further.  Nobody wants to give up the 162-game regular season since that's the only way for the vast majority of teams to generate any revenue.

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    Start the season a week earlier (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:15:57 PM EST
    Really easy.

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    So easy (none / 0) (#60)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:48:46 PM EST
    that it's amazing no one has ever thought of it (snark).

    Where I come from, it is routine to have games postponed due to cold weather in the first week of the season.  Starting in March may be an option for the Rays, not so much for us cold-weather folks...

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    Southern schedule early (none / 0) (#63)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:51:29 PM EST
    Catchers and pitchers report on--NY Day? (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:54:07 PM EST
    We actually got hailed on at a game here in early April.

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    You're forgetting games being snowed out (none / 0) (#69)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:00:44 PM EST
    in Cleveland and elsewhere - IIRC it was 2007 opening day.  And then there were other snow-outs in 2003.
    And I think some Boston early April games got snowed on  - or out - a couple years ago.

    And the snow on Yankee opening day in 1996.

    The problem is that there are no doubleheaders in the schedule, which then requires that the open days be used for makeup games.  MLB winds up having games 6 days a week - the seventh is an open day used for travel and so on.

    Schedule doubleheaders and you can get more open days, but you still wind up with the problem of people trying to afford admission.  As it is, the price of a single-game ticket for the stereotypical family of 4 is out of sight for most people (and I haven't even gone near the costs in NYC, Boston and a couple other higher-priced markets).  Tack on the fact that you are not allowed to bring any outside food, drink or whatever into most (if not all parks) and you have a real problem, dollar and cent-wise.  

    About a dozen years ago, I went to the Real Yankee Stadium and took my backpack with a couple peaches (it was August) and the NYT (I got there early).  It cost me $2.50 for the subway ($1.25 each way) and another $7 for the bleacher ticket.  That might have been the last time anyone did a Yankee game for under 10 bucks.  I can't imagine them letting anyone into the bleachers with peaches (pits fly really well) anymore.  BTW, that was a great game - El Duque's "rookie" year, he threw 8 1/3 of 2 hit shutout ball and Mo got the save in a 2-0 win over the very tough Rangers.

    For me, I can make a day of it for under 50 bucks, but I'm willing to sit in the upper deck and nurse a jumbo soda and a bag of peanuts.  I find a scorecard at $5 to be an abomination, but that's cheaper in than in a lot of parks.  

    But a family with a kid all excited "Dad, I want a hot dog; Dad, I want some ice cream; Dad, I want some soda" is going to run into big bucks quickly.  And, FWIW, a good rule of thumb is you stay as many innings as your kid is years-old.

    So, for a lot of people (excluding the families with baseball-mad kids who'll stay through a downpour), that second game of the doubleheader would be a waste of money.

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    Sitting in the Park at the Park at Petco (none / 0) (#81)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:21:05 PM EST
    is really cheap and there is a huge screen.  Or for $5 you can stand and watch the game from designated pts. inside the park.  Can bring food.  And small, sealed bottle of water.  But the tickets:  I figured $100 to get seats in the upper boxes for myself and two kids under the age of 12.  Discount for me, but not for them, except on Sunday games.  Crazy.

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    But I'll bet tthey don't let you bring (none / 0) (#98)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:57:41 PM EST
    peaches, plums or nectarines into the park.

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    Actually, I think any kind of food (none / 0) (#105)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:20:17 PM EST
    is ok at the new park, not at the Q.  There you needed a doctor's permission slip!

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    When I was a kid I went (none / 0) (#82)
    by hairspray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:21:24 PM EST
    out to the baseball games every weekend.  It must have been cheap because we (friends, etc) didn't have much money. The teams were west coast and small and it was really fun. We all played baseball all the time.  I was shortstop or third base. Today the costs are so out of sight that they must extend their games into fall when football starts in order to make the money they want to make.  And football goes until February now for the same reasons. Its all about money.  Too bad. The kids lose.  Big money men have taken over what was once the heart of American youth.  And we wonder why our country is on the skids.  Look around and see where are values are.

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    Heh (none / 0) (#87)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:29:39 PM EST
    And, FWIW, a good rule of thumb is you stay as many innings as your kid is years-old.

    That's probably a good rule of thumb.  But I think I was 7 when I went to my first ballgame with my dad, and we stayed for all 16 innings!  I guess I was a little trooper.

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    Pretty much the same for me (none / 0) (#97)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:56:58 PM EST
    My first game was an 18 inning Sunday afternoon extra-inning deal - the game had been 1-1 into the bottom of the 9th and the home team missed an opportunity when a runner was thrown out trying to steal home, ending the threat.  So it went on, inning after inning.  

    My dad had to pry me out of the old wooden slat seat to get me to go home in the middle of the 13th.  And I was 7.

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    No prob; when Cleveland was snowed out (none / 0) (#124)
    by Cream City on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 08:20:21 PM EST
    a couple of years ago -- I think it was Cleveland -- we just had 'em come NORTH to our d*mn domed stadium to play their game here.  And we turned out and gave 'em a crowd and gemuetlichkeit, too.

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    I kind of enjoyed watching those (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:42:30 PM EST
    games in Cleveland where it was snowing like crazy.  Watching TV though.

    steve m, how much will Iowa beat Michigan by Sat.?

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    Oh no (none / 0) (#34)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:02:29 PM EST
    You will not get me to pick against the mighty Wolverines!  I hope they do not lose another game all year.

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    Actually, I'll be at the Met HD movie (none / 0) (#80)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:17:56 PM EST
    of Tosca.  At opening night, the director was soundly booed--probably because he isn't Zefferelli.

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    You nailed it... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:45:29 PM EST
    they'd either have to scrap the wild card round altogether, which I don't think anybody wants...or play in the snow in Mid-March, or risk having the big dance drift into December.

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    They could have shorter travel breaks (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:52:35 PM EST
    or even a double header! We're only talking about squeezing in two more games!

    Man up, dudes!

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    Good call ruffian... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:56:50 PM EST
    more double-headers...I'm old enough to remember when they were actually on the schedule once in awhile, and not only to make-up rainouts.  And one ticket got you both games!

    The owners won't go for that...and I don't think the average fan can afford 18 innings worth of over-priced hot dogs and beer.

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    Probably not (none / 0) (#32)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:01:55 PM EST
    More importantly, the real powers-that-be - TV networks - would not go for it.

    Saw a few Cubbies doubleheader as a kid. Used to be reasonable entertainment back then - pack all 6 of us kids in the car, bring sandwiches - entertainment for the whole day! Nowadays that would be the whole summers entertainment expense. Really too bad.

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:05:15 PM EST
    I remember one big yearly double-header at Shea...Banner Day.  In between games they let the fans who made signs on the field to do a lap.

    And they used to let you pack a little cooler with sandwiches and whatnot and bring it in...nowadays I gotta sneak a ham on rye into the place in my boxers like sneaking a file into prison.

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    Oh boy (none / 0) (#46)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:13:55 PM EST
    there is a mental image I did not need!

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    Would 2 more games (none / 0) (#35)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:03:08 PM EST
    really be a major expansion- again I'm drawn to the example of the NBA which switched its first round to 7 games both to increase revenues (only slightly successful- more games, but more games which have low viewership- decreasing the leagues avg. number) and to help the better teams- a problem that if anything is worse in Baseball where a Top line starter can almost single handedly win a 5 game series (depending on the travel schedule and length of outing a pitcher could make 3 starts on 4 games rest- contingent on the travel format of course).

    Actually, I'd be interested in a comparitive analsyis of upset rates across Professional Sports (college is too hard- the NCAA tourney would skew things greatly) does the MLB have more upsets than the NBA, how about the NHL and the NFL (with its one game playoffs but also byes for top seeds the NFL has an interesting overall format).

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    You could argue (none / 0) (#42)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:11:04 PM EST
    that the season was already stretched past its reasonable limits by adding an additional 5-game series.

    It's all well and good to joke about how Derek Jeter is "Mr. November" but one of these years when the World Series gets delayed by a week due to a snowstorm, it's not going to be so funny.

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    I think they could fit them in (none / 0) (#52)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:26:18 PM EST
    the current calendar if they wanted to.

    There are two days minimum between the end of the first round and the start of the League Championships, then 3 off days between the LCs and the World Series.  

    I think they could fit 2 more games in the first round and take away a couple of off days. Say, only have 1 off day between the first round and the LC, and 2 before the WS.

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    Well, if it weren't for the WBC, . . . (none / 0) (#59)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:46:29 PM EST
    Then why am I still paying sales tax (none / 0) (#40)
    by Cream City on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:09:20 PM EST
    specifically to pay off my @##$$%! domed stadium?  And I'm close to Canada, so we can play anytime here now.

    I hate the @#$%$%! stadium sales tax.  Use the d*mn dome more and I'll pay less sales tax for it.

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    Love him or hate him... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:57:11 PM EST
    ya gotta give Jerry Jones a lot of credit for paying for his own stadium on his own dime, and not soaking the local taxpayers.  

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    Did you see the images from the (none / 0) (#75)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:10:34 PM EST
    so-called "Party Zone"?  For $29, you got to go into the stadium complex (but not the stadium proper) and watch TV while standing and getting jostled.

    By 30,000 of your newest, closest friends and neighbors.  One paying ticketholder compared it to the Superdome during Katrina.

    And this is a $75 seat in Jones' new palace.

    Say what you will about Texas - when it comes to emptying people's wallets with things that would be called "scams" in other states but are called "Capitalistic good business practices" in third-world countries, Texas leads the nation in producing some of the most skilled practitioners of it anywhere.

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    Scribe... (none / 0) (#102)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:08:21 PM EST
    you're on fire...and the party-pass link, the writer had me at "lawless Thunderdome".  Classic.

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    You want "on fire"? (none / 0) (#108)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:42:51 PM EST
    Check out this one.

    A friend is a bigtime Owboys fan, and I have been riding the hell out of him for months - Romo, Jessica, Coach Cupcake, T.O., catty locker-room clique-fights - and then Jerry Jones goes and gives me this new palace, all wrapped up in a bow, with a giant-screen TV that might be bigger than his ego, hanging so low over the field that kickers plunk it regularly, and where he runs one wallet-vacuuming scam after another of the kind that makes everyone know Texas is spelled D-A-N-G-E-R to outsiders and Y-e-e-h-a-w to Texans.

    It's like Christmas, birthday, and free-beer-wings-and-strippers night all rolled into one.

    I mean, who could possibly have imagined that 30,000 standing-room-only seats that don't let you into a stadium and are serviced by a couple restrooms in the same place that doesn't have enough hot water in the visitors' locker room showers would turn into anything but Thunderdome?  So, being Texans, they went and did it.  Bigger and more extreme and more expensive than anyone else would dare to even imagine.  

    I'm waiting for the pasteboard false fronts to start falling off the building to expose the papier-mache to the elements.....

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    They get softened up (none / 0) (#103)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:14:37 PM EST
    early by their pastors and the collision of Scotch-Irish brain pans and near-tropical heat.

    Santa Anna's revenge.

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    Wiki (none / 0) (#85)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:27:23 PM EST
    To aid Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones in paying the construction costs of the new stadium, Arlington voters approved the increase of the city's sales tax by 0.5 percent, the hotel occupancy tax by 2 percent, and car rental tax by 5 percent. The City of Arlington provided over $933 million (including interest) in bonds as funding, and Jones covered any cost overruns.


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    No sh*t... (none / 0) (#99)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:59:42 PM EST
    I coulda swore I caught Jerry on Joe Bucks show saying he paid...poking around looks like he only paid 1/2 to 2/3.  Thank you sir...they're all lame:)

    I sure got the wrong impression from Jerry here.

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    Let's hope the Lard Lad let his mouth (none / 0) (#100)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:03:47 PM EST
    talk him out of any chance of succeeding at getting to own the Rams.

    Ranking on other sports is not the way to win friends and influence people....

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    Oh well, bad day for the Rocks 5-1 final (none / 0) (#90)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:34:04 PM EST
    BTD (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:42:54 PM EST
    as a fellow lifelong Florida fan I have to ask two questions:

    1. Is going to UF for law school worth the out of state price (my family moved to Montana in Summer of 1996- Montana had its 100 year Winter; watching the two FSU games was amazing- especially since I had to that point spent most of my life in Tallahassee) I'd love to go back to Florida but the out of state tutition seems insane.

    2. Is this a Harvin thing where Meyer's talking about playing him but has no real intention, or is Tebow really going to go (maybe in alterations with Brantley ala 2006 and Leak)? Because as good as I keep hearing Brantley is, and as good as our defense seems like it should be (first time we'll actually have all of the 2008 starters on the field at anything approaching 100%) Baton Rogue at night scares me and we always lose to a west team (excepting 1995- but, I've blacked out that year and prefer to think of it as a childhood trauma).  


    University of FL has actual courses? (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:49:09 PM EST
    Query:  is it worth it to get a law degree anywhere now?  Employment opportunities are not as plentiful due to recession and associates who do get a job aren't pulling as many $$ as a couple years ago.  Cyclical though.

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    At this point I'm almost certainly (none / 0) (#21)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:54:16 PM EST
    going peace corps in Summer 2011- It'll alleviate my loan burden somewhat (especially if the expansion plans ever get passed) and should both improve my admission chances for my top grad/law school choices as well as buying me some time before I enter the real workforce (as opposed to the menial labor/ food service stuff I do now while in school) for the economy to improve.

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    Oh and yes Florida has a real school (none / 0) (#26)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:57:02 PM EST
    at least for entry into- the Admission standards are insane- I had less luck with their undergraduate admissions than I did with UChicago's (this is probably due to Florida doing the thing that a lot of states are doing and offering full tuition to In-state HS's who meet certain standards thus greatly increasing the number of highly qualified instate applicants).

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    opinions (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:44:08 PM EST
    do you think I need two chinchillas complete with:

    Three-tier cage w/ running wheel
    Food dispenser/container (whatever you would call it)
    Water bottle
    Plastic house/hut (in cage, they like to sleep in it)
    Wood chips (for under the cage)
    Large plastic tray (goes under the cage to keep the surrounding area tidy)
    Large bag of food (a few month's worth)
    A few bags of hay (also should last a few months)
    Marble cooling stone (they lay on it, it helps keep them cool)
    Dust and "bathing house" - In the wild, chinchillas bathe by rolling around in volcanic ash (their fur is too soft and dense for them to bathe in water.) Domestic chinchillas roll around in dust that you get at the pet store. The "bathing house" has a rounded bottom, and hangs from the side of the cage for them to roll in the dust.
    Chinchilla ball (like a hamster ball, but larger - it's so they can run around your house in it)

    I'll have to ask my wife if she had other plans for it, but we'd probably throw in the travel cage as well, since our cat's too big for it now.

    Only you can answer that... (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:48:57 PM EST
    I had no idea chinchillas needed so many accessories...have they been hanging out with Ken and Barbie or something?

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    yeah (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:50:59 PM EST
    I thought that was pretty funny too.
    what, no red convertible?

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    Where is my buddy Inspector G.... (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:52:57 PM EST
    they must be an American breed with needs like that...and probably still unhappy and don't know why:)

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    In college (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:56:06 PM EST
    a friend of mine got a chinchilla convinced that it was going to be a "babe magnet."  Instead when everyone came over on a weekend night the only people who cared about it were guys.  So I guess it depends upon what sort of intentions you have...

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    I'm likein' (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:59:25 PM EST
    the sound of this so far.

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    Silly friend... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:59:40 PM EST
    Mr. Met is the ultimate magnet, as scribe was kind enough to show us yesterday.

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    damn (none / 0) (#31)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:00:39 PM EST
    I don't think I could sleep with that staring at me from a cage in my room though O_O

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    Mr Met caught w/o Mrs Met and without wedding ring (none / 0) (#73)
    by Ellie on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:06:34 PM EST
    But I've got to admit, the dude's got some righteous moves!

    (When I was a kid, he used to horrify me. I mean, his head is a baseball. I figured he was doomed.)

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    To works as a babe magnet (none / 0) (#49)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:19:26 PM EST
    A pet has to be something that you can take to the park- a puppy, a sugar glider, etc.  - I had a friend get a sugar glider a couple of years ago and it worked pretty well at drawing a crowd.

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    what pray tell is a sugar glider? (none / 0) (#54)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:30:34 PM EST
    OMG (none / 0) (#55)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:35:47 PM EST
    the cutest thing on earth!!!!!  They enjoy cuddling and running around on people's bodies.  They also like to nap in your chest pocket.

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    Oh god (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:44:31 PM EST
    nevermind:

    Sugar gliders are indeed very messy animals. When they wake, they will extricate their bowels as they move around. It is common for an animal to extricate while it is eating and when out for play and running on you. Poo and pee on your clothes, skin, hair, and furniture is to be expected with these animals. While in the cage, gliders spend a lot of time on the walls or high up and thusly they will pee, poo and even throw food and waste outside of the cage.


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    I think I had one of those (5.00 / 5) (#58)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:46:25 PM EST
    as a room mate in college.

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    LOL (none / 0) (#83)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:21:59 PM EST
    Yeah, that's a real chick magnet all right!!

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    Hahahaha (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:33:20 PM EST
    don't be so judgmental!!  :P

    Actually I'm kinda bummed.  I had wanted one since I was a kid.  But I'm sort of a hygiene freak.  Although not wanting poop and pee on everything you own probably does not put you in the "hygiene freak" category on its own.

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    I think the bar for (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:37:41 PM EST
    'hygiene freak' is set a little higher than that!

    Birds are cool too, but after house-sitting for a friend that had them, I vowed I never would. Way too messy for me! Rabbits too, hopping around the house and pooping. So you can imagine how I would react to an animal that actually pooped on me!

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    And yes, I am childless (none / 0) (#92)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:38:44 PM EST
    Go figure!

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    dogs will love this (none / 0) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:46:15 PM EST
    (like a hamster ball, but larger - it's so they can run around your house in it)

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    How's the prey drive with your dogs? (none / 0) (#11)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:48:24 PM EST
    Mine would be fine with them, but if yours' won't, bad situation for everyone.

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    well (none / 0) (#14)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:50:19 PM EST
    two rabbits have met their maker in my backyard.

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    I'd say pass (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:52:17 PM EST
    management in situations like that generally fails. Dogs could also get obsessive about them, it's stressful for the Chins and also no fun to try and manage :)

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    I have to admit (none / 0) (#30)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:00:33 PM EST
    I am morbidly curious as the the effect the ball would have on the dogs.

    (as in I wonder just how fast they can run around the house)

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    I' m pretty sure those Husky jaws (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:12:02 PM EST
    would end that game darn quick.

    Since your dogs are prey driven, it would really be cruel to the chins and the dogs to add them to your home.

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    I was kidding of course (none / 0) (#45)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:13:47 PM EST
    I would never put the little fur balls at risk.


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    Yeah, I was more refering to the adoption (none / 0) (#117)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:21:36 PM EST
    when I said I thought it would be cruel. Could cause a lot of animal stress. And Huskies can be very creative when they want to get out or in somewhere. Or if the door isn't as closed as you think it is . . . I won't bring a rescue with prey drive home even for a stop over until I can get it to a foster or shelter. I have the ability to separate and manage, but one not properly closed door, brain f*rt, distraction, etc could cost a life. I remember one Dal I had that I was trying to sep from mine because I had just pulled her from the city shelter (lord knows what she may have picked up). D*mn that dog was creative. Every time I turned around she was running free in the apt. I had my dog in the room with the pocket door and her gated in the kitchen. She watched the cats traversing the apt at the upper levels and learned how to get out by climbing chairs, tables etc. Iirc, she also unlatched the crate. She was an absolute riot and sweet as the dickens. Would have been another story if she had prey/cat issues . .

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    Well Chinchillas (none / 0) (#17)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:51:18 PM EST
    are crazy cute- and unlike the animal I always wanted growing up (Ferrets) don't smell horribly, I guess it depends on how you think the cat will take it- Small pets (read: food) drive some Cats and Dogs crazy- will he/she sit in front of the cage all day, and then force you to look her/him up when the Chinchillas run around in the ball?

    (Wait are you asking for takers or if you should get one I'm confused by your wording)

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    a guy at work (none / 0) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:55:05 PM EST
    wants to get rid of a pair of male brothers.
    and yeah they are terminally cute.

    my dogs will go absolutely nuts. I have no doubt.

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    Oh God (none / 0) (#38)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:06:52 PM EST
    so cute, man it'd be hard to say no after seeing that- how old's your dog?  Them being brothers eliminates my other real concern with small mammals (I got a hedgehog for Christmas when I was 13- it had babies 6 weeks later and we had no idea what we were supposed to do).

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    yeah (none / 0) (#41)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:10:10 PM EST
    I had the same concern but he swears they are both males.  but did not tell me how he knew.

    my dogs are about 1 and a half and 2 and a half.

    and would definitely see them as dog treats.
    but I think I could keep them in the spare bedroom.

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    btw (none / 0) (#147)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 01:31:24 PM EST
    their names are

    wait for it

    Chip n Dale

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    On Baseball (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:44:54 PM EST
    it does seem odd to use a 5 game series in a sport that's all about long term endurance and greatness over time- even the NBA (which has roughly half the regular season games as MLB) dropped the 5 game series.

    BTD, is there any subject on which (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 02:50:25 PM EST
    you do not have an opinion?  

    ROMAN POLANSKI? (5.00 / 7) (#33)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:02:00 PM EST
    I believe BTD's opinion (5.00 / 3) (#39)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:07:03 PM EST
    is that he likes Polanksi's movies or he's a great director or something. And that's all he's ganna say about that.

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    What was the phrase for the legal (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:14:49 PM EST
    theory you expounded on?  That seemed to generate some interest.

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    Ah yes (5.00 / 3) (#61)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:49:22 PM EST
    the fugitive disentitlement doctrine!  Sexy stuff.

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    Polanski? (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by CST on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:03:31 PM EST
    Anna Nicole Smith?

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    BTD, has an opinion on Polanski (none / 0) (#62)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:50:23 PM EST
    You have to get past the subject line: I like to think I am in neither camp (none / 0) (#30)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 10:19:56 AM EST
    I am not particularly pro-criminal defendants, though I like to think I support due process.

    Hell, I am the guy who believe we can have a preventive detention regime, so long as courts are involved.

    I hate celebrity justice stories.

    And to say the allegations and evidence against Polanski disgust me, as a father of 15 and 11 year old girls, is an understatement. As a father, if it was my daughter, I would not have waited for extradition, they would be extraditing me for what I did where ever Polanski was.

    But that is not justice or policy. That is personal and visceral. And criminal.

    But since it is NOT my daughter, and it happened 30 years ago, it is far enough removed for me to be able to discuss the issue of whether someone should be allowed to make a motion to dismiss in absentia.

    I am unpersuaded by the arguments forwarded for why that should not be allowed.


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    Somali dumba$$es (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:12:17 PM EST
    In defense... (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:20:27 PM EST
    of my Somali friends, its probably pretty easy to confuse a French naval vessel with an easy target:)

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    If, after fighting tooth and nail (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:57:39 PM EST
    everybody from the Roman Legions to "the Hun" for the last 2,000 years, the French want to opt out of "military preparedness" in favor of enlightened diplomacy, I say more power to them.

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    Just kidding really... (none / 0) (#70)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:02:38 PM EST
    though they did roll over kinda easy for the Germans:)

    France knows I love her...I mean I get to enjoy that awesome gift in the harbor every time I'm on the BQE.  That awe-inspiring statue goes a long way with me.

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    I dont know how many (none / 0) (#77)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:14:15 PM EST
    they lost in WWI, but I do know that every year a few people in France are killed by unexploded WWI ordnance accidentally dug up.

    As far as Im concerned, they more than earned their stripes in Flanders fields and at Waterloo.

    "Surrender barve Frenchman" "Merde!"

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    brave (none / 0) (#78)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:14:54 PM EST
    Smooth (none / 0) (#51)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:21:57 PM EST
    here's a hint- if the ships Navy Gray and has dudes in uniforms on it- yeah its probably not something you want to attack.

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    Why haven't the commercial lines (none / 0) (#84)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:22:10 PM EST
    figured this out?

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    Gang Green scored... (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:27:58 PM EST
    Braylon Edwards for Chansi Stuckey, Jason Trusnick and 2 draft picks (3rd and 5th)...at that price we can't lose!  Looks like Cleveland took 50 cents on the dollar due to the headaches caused by Edwards off the field.

    Made me google. This guy was a (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:06:16 PM EST
    Michigan phenom!  And takes a helicopter to a Michigan game.  What a guy.

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    Braylon (none / 0) (#101)
    by CoralGables on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:06:33 PM EST
    is one of those guys that the future outlook depends on whether you are a glass half full or a glass half empty kind of person.

    He led the league last year in dropped passes, leading the glass half full person to say he gets open all the time and the half empty person to surmise that he has hands of stone.

    He used his hands of stone and his oatmeal brain to take a poke at a 135 pounder the other night which helped lead to him being shipped out of Cleveland. With a brain like that I'm guessing that although he attended Michigan, he likely never graduated from Michigan.

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    Ryan and Co must see something (none / 0) (#115)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:07:26 PM EST
    in the half full dept.

    Who's coaching in Cleveland these days?

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    Please (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:54:56 PM EST
    someone, shoot me, put me out of my misery.

    I just defended Tom Delay (his dancing).  I can't stand it.  I'm mortified.  I'm dizzy, nauseous.

    What is this world coming to?  What has happened to me?

    the dancing maybe ok (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:06:41 PM EST
    the red pants?  there is no defense.


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    I believe (none / 0) (#114)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:05:31 PM EST
    the professional partner picks the clothes....so unfortunately...there IS a defense.

    Sigh.

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    Was his professional partner (none / 0) (#122)
    by MO Blue on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:52:20 PM EST
    a Democrat? :-)

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    Well (none / 0) (#68)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 03:59:49 PM EST
    we all know he can tap dance.

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    If only he had met you in his formative years (none / 0) (#94)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:41:33 PM EST
    and been encouraged to dance instead of go into politics! Gotten a nice gig in 'Cats' or something. What a better world it would be.

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    bwa hahahahaha (none / 0) (#96)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:49:25 PM EST
    Cabaret!!  I can see him in the Joel Grey roll.

     

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    I don't know (none / 0) (#116)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:10:10 PM EST
    There's always some sucking Republican around to fill any available vacuum.  If not Tom Delay then someone else would have been the hammer.

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    Baucus bill (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:17:04 PM EST
    apparently saves $81 billion.

    How many lives does it save (5.00 / 1) (#109)
    by shoephone on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:46:25 PM EST
    from cancer? That's all I care about, and I already know the answer anyway.

    The Dems and Repubs are one party when it comes to health care. Corrupt, spineless, and working against the interests of the American people.

    Let's see someone in the Senate stand up and demand that the H.E.L.P. committee bill be the model. Then I'll start paying attention again.

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    So, that means it passes the Finance Committee? (none / 0) (#88)
    by MKS on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:29:40 PM EST
    Another twist and turn in the longest lasting saga....

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    Saves it from what? (none / 0) (#104)
    by Inspector Gadget on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:17:25 PM EST
    The most expensive plan they could possibly have come up with?

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    Hey, think of all the money (none / 0) (#130)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 10:10:38 PM EST
    they'd "save" if they do nothing...

    What I'd really like to see is a projection of how much money the insurance companies will make from health care "reform."

    Something tells me that's a much more eye-popping number.

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    My daughter wants to know if anybody (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:44:12 PM EST
    ever talks right on here?  I suppose knock knock jokes are next.  I did tell her that sometimes if you put Jim and Wiley together it is almost like West Point is in the house :)  I sprayed the outside of the house for bugs today.  I forgot to ask my husband to do it before he left.  I used to imagine that maybe I knew what a brown recluse spider looked like and had run into one before, but now I know that I have never seen one until today.  When you see one, it's like a seeing a black widow.  You don't have to get a magnifying glass out trying to figure out if it has brown and tan striped legs with google images up.  Nope....when you see it kick a golfball aside....you clearly see the color variation.  And you also just know before you even realize that is a brown recluse, that if that bit you it wouldn't be a good thing.

    Aw-aw. Is sd. daughter reading TL? (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:29:39 AM EST
    I think she reads sometimes (5.00 / 3) (#139)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:33:44 AM EST
    usually when she's away from home. Being home though for a bit she comes into the kitchen and I'm typing and she tells Zoey, "Look Zoey, NaNa is talking left."

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    When my friends ask the name of the (5.00 / 2) (#140)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:36:08 AM EST
    blog which I confess I "spend too much time on," I become mysteriously silent.

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    When my daughter first left home (5.00 / 2) (#141)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:47:59 AM EST
    Well, we are very much alike...so doing that psychological separation thing was really terrible.  And my friends would try to help me, ask me about remembering fighting with my own mom...but then remember that I did not have that experience.  My mom was dead from the time I was seven, therefore saw and knew everything I did and I'm constantly surveilled. I don't think I have much separation.  I've always had this sensation that she sees and knows everything :)  And I always thought that people could talk about things together, get on the same page or at least understand where the other was coming from.  She was so sick of me.  During her teens she would just want me to eff off, but I thought if only she could express that she wanted me to eff off we could get beyond it...but she really just wanted me to eff off.  When she was in New York though last year she would read TalkLeft to see what I was yapping about, and I used to sort of know she was so sometimes when I posted about Josh's surgery or something I knew that she could know things too and not have to talk to me.  People outside of us say that we are very much alike, so separating for her hasn't been pleasant but she is confidently becoming her own woman now.

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    MT, you sound like (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 01:13:29 AM EST
    an absolutely terrific and wonderful mother, and just generally a great human being.

    Just sayin'.

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    Thanks (5.00 / 1) (#145)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 08:40:32 AM EST
    Just about everybody who blogs here seems like such folks to me usually.  I'm always surprised by the things that I find here that cause me to think a lot deeper about certain issues than I probably would not if I didn't read here.  And I would be clueless about demographics, bills in committee not being passed out of committee, bills being reconciled...they don't teach you this in your government class, not even in college.  Well perhaps in some colleges but not mine and my government teacher had been a House of Rep aide once for a Republican.  And he had this dry erase monthly planner board behind his desk, he wrote War Board where the month was supposed to go :)  He was memorable, and he still owes me an A+ on my paper and not an A-, because he was WRONG about Roe v. Wade being overturned in 1990....it was not.

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    Did you say that it (none / 0) (#126)
    by byteb on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 08:50:03 PM EST
    kicked a golf ball aside??

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    It didn't really (none / 0) (#127)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 09:06:52 PM EST
    but it looked like it could have if it wanted to.  I found two great big mistresses with nests on my back porch.  That is a substantial spider.  I've been looking at bitty wisps of spiders since moving here because we have a lot of brown recluse spiders I was told.  They remind me a lot of black widows, the shape and size of the abdomen.  Wonder if the male is tiny?

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    Small spiders I can tolerate, (none / 0) (#131)
    by byteb on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 10:59:17 PM EST
    but large ones...especially large furry spiders....nesting on my back porch is beyond my bug/insect bravery level.
     Good thing you found the nests before another generation of large, brown, furry recluse spiders emerged. :(

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    No kidding (none / 0) (#132)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 11:20:18 PM EST
    I was just reading on the net that once they get established someplace, it can take up to six months to be rid of them.  One of my friends boyfriends who has hunted here his whole life told me a few days ago that this is really their season down here, and that when they were out in the woods this past weekend the recluse were out in full force.  From what I read they procreate like spidery rats.  Their mom sticks around and takes care of them after they are born and a recluse can live 5-7 yrs if everything is going very swell.  I think that I'm going back out to spray very very thoroughly tomorrow.  And maybe even throw some pellets around the base of the house too that usually are only used on the front lawn.  I hate using pesticides.  I really hate it.  But in the subtropics it doesn't seem like there is a choice.

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    ALL spiders (none / 0) (#134)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 11:37:07 PM EST
    procreate like crazy!  Happily, here in the frozen North we don't have a lot of really nasty ones you have, but I've got a veritable Cellar Spider factory (daddy longlegs type) in my cellar that drives me crazy all summer as they come up and take positions in every corner of the house.  If I leave so much as a coffee cup out on the counter overnight, it's got a tiny spider constructing a web in it by morning.

    What kind of spray did you use?  I gather from Googling around that the only sprays effective on spiders are contact sprays-- ie, you can kill them by hitting them directly, but not by spraying areas they inhabit.

    I also hate using insecticides and do it as seldom as I can, but I've spent a truly ridiculous amount of time and effort beating back the Cellar Spiders that come upstairs, and I'm seriously wondering whether I should go after them in the cellar itself before they breed their next million this coming spring.

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    It is terrible in the South (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:21:35 AM EST
    we stand in line for the new extrakill killer.  This year it is all sorts of brandnames with the ingredients of 0.03% Lambda-Cyhalothrin.  Sounds like a poisonous frat.  My particular bottle has a giant palmetto roach on it along with an artist rendition of what I now know is a Brown Recluse.  The palmetto roaches here are so big, I am not making this up, but Zoey dropped some goldfish crackers on the front porch and I was out there sitting and heard some sort of gnawing.  I looked down and it was one of those crackers and one of those roaches.  My roach hating grandmother would have passed out daily trying to live here.

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    Auuggghhh!! (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 01:10:26 AM EST
    Makes my stomach heave.  I knew there was a reason I preferred living up north-- other than the weather. :-)

    Hairy bugs make me semi-hysterical, so I'm with you on that. House millipedes, so-called, are supposedly a good thing in that they dine on other bugs, including things like dust mites, we'd rather not have.  I haven't seen one here, thank G*d, but I used to have them occasionally rise up from the cellar where I used to live and march across the floor.  They were big enough that squishing them was even more nauseating than letting them wander around.  Phew!  Yech!

    Thanks for the chemical details.  I've never seen anything like that on the shelves here, but I'll look for it on the Web.

    I vastly prefer to live and let live where critters of any kind are concerned, but sometimes, like with mice in the house, it boils down to you or them.  I wonder what the uber-Buddhist Dalai Lama's household does about things like mice and cellar spiders...

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    Ugh, longlegs. But the worst by far (none / 0) (#135)
    by Cream City on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:15:47 AM EST
    of the multilegged freeky insects that give me the willies are the millipedes.  Some grow to several inches long.  They have been here before dinosaurs, and nothing we humans do will eradicate millipedes.

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    We have a lot of those in the front yard (none / 0) (#138)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 12:31:47 AM EST
    area.  They get about four or five inches long.  I always find them on the sidewalk having kicked the bucket.

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    Did you move to Florida? (none / 0) (#146)
    by byteb on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 09:20:44 AM EST
    Must be different (none / 0) (#144)
    by Fabian on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 04:52:39 AM EST
    critters down south.  The only recluse I ever saw lived up to its name, attempting to flee when I tried to get close enough to see the little "violin" on its back.  I'm sure we have them, but I never see them.

    Nothing as surprising as having a hummingbird hover in a window - hunting tiny spiders for food and spiderwebs to build its nest.  Plus I have two types of wrens and those birds hunt every type of insect or spider that lurks on the ground.  I'll hear a rustling but instead of a pesky chipmunk, a wren will bob up and then return to foraging.

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    Phils win 5-1, Lee throws CG 6 hitter (none / 0) (#86)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:28:49 PM EST
    lost the shutout with 2 strikes and 2 outs in the 9th when Tulowitzki doubled in a run.  But, by that time it was too late for the Rockies.

    Box score, wrapup.

    Nice to see a guy finish what he started.

    You sound like Jerry Coleman, the (none / 0) (#106)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:24:19 PM EST
    Pads radio guy.  He played for the Yankees back in the day (with Joe DiMaggio) and is constantly saying, we never had long relief, short relief, set up, closers, etc.  Just pitch the game.

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    Tony Fein, RIP (none / 0) (#93)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:39:29 PM EST
    You probably never heard of him, but he had a story.

    He graduated high school in 2000, and joined the Army about a year later, probably in reaction to 9/11.  He took one of the more dangerous jobs there is - cavalry scout - and did it for three years or so, 2 1/2 in Iraq.  He went to Iraq and made it back in one piece.

    When he got back, he started college.  He played football, too, and after going two years to Scottsdale Junior College, transferred to Ole Miss.  He played well enough to get 136 tackles (77 solo) in 24 games in his two years at Ole Miss.  And he played well enough to get an invite as a non-drafted free agent with the Baltimore Ravens.  

    He made it all the way through camp to the last round of cuts.  When he was cut, he went home to Washington State, where he was staying with friends when, inexplicably he died today.

    He was 27.  May he rest in peace.


    So sad. RIP Tony and peace to his family (none / 0) (#95)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 04:43:30 PM EST
    Yhey must be in such pain.

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    Opt out being discussed (none / 0) (#107)
    by waldenpond on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 05:41:53 PM EST
    For the first time, I am seeing the opt out discussed (just Ed but it's a shift to see it covered.)   Sam Stein  [it's better than a trigger, it's better than an opt in.]

    I finally got an opt-out bill (none / 0) (#121)
    by oldpro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:50:08 PM EST
    passed in our state legislature last year but it wasn't for healthcare...$5 to keep all state parks open and operating.

    The wackos and their friends are calling it a tax...sneaky...underhanded...blah, blah, blah.  I guess they don't do words over two syllables...optional has three.

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    YANKEES ARE LOSING. (none / 0) (#110)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 06:10:15 PM EST


    Not :) (5.00 / 3) (#113)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:04:28 PM EST
    Don't (none / 0) (#111)
    by CoralGables on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 06:31:02 PM EST
    play with my baseball emotions like that. A Yankee loss could have me break out in an Irish jig over the thought of Brian Duensing turning the Bombers into the Bomberettes.

    Looking at Sabathia's pitch count, it doesn't look like Mr. Cy Young will make it past the 6th inning against the Mighty Twinkies.

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    Dawgone Jeter. He does seem like (none / 0) (#112)
    by oculus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 06:39:28 PM EST
    a nice guy though.

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    Jeter WANTS this season (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 08:04:07 PM EST
    The Whole thing.  And he will let nothing get between him and getting it.

    He's thrown that whole team on his back and will carry them across the line.

    Watch him.  He surely is one of the 10 best ballplayers you will ever see.  Save the memory.  

    The same goes with Rivera.

    It's like an incident I had at the Vet in Philly, during one of their first interleague series with the Orioles.  I had taken my dad, for something to do.  There were a couple kids - 10 y/o or so boys - with one's dad, sitting in the row behind me.  We were all about 30 rows back along the LF foul line.  They were antsy and their dad was just tired.  So, rather than get all bent out of shape at the kids, I just turned around and said:  "hey, guys.  You see number 8 there, playing third for the Orioles?"

    "Um, yeah."

    "Well, that's Cal Ripken.  You should watch him play so, when you're old like me, you can tell your kids you went to a game with your dad and you all saw the Great Cal Ripken play, and remember why it was he was so great."

    You never saw kids get so intent on watching a ballgame.

    My dad had seen Mantle play, prior to his knee injury.  Said he was faster than anyone he'd ever seen.  As a boy he'd seen players like Johnny Mize, the Giants of the 30s and some of the NL greats of that area - a relative lived near the Polo Grounds, close enough to walk actually.  His telling me about watching Mantle run and Mize play is something that will stay with me, probably as long as I live.

    I make a point of saving my scorecards and tickets, too.

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    That's (none / 0) (#125)
    by CoralGables on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 08:26:42 PM EST
    my kind of story.

    I took my 2 nephews, then about 12 and 13, to see Cal on July 17, 2001 during his last season. Cal hit one out and the two nephews were putzing around at the concession stand for peanuts and popcorn and missed it. You can lead a horse to water....

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    Of course (none / 0) (#118)
    by Steve M on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:23:32 PM EST
    He's from Michigan, dontcha know.

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    He was married to Halle Berry (none / 0) (#128)
    by Inspector Gadget on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 09:27:53 PM EST
    She might have some insights.

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    Wasn't that (none / 0) (#129)
    by CoralGables on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 10:10:01 PM EST
    David Justice?

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    Along that line of thought (none / 0) (#119)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 07:26:50 PM EST
    All MLB playoff series should be 4 out of 7.

    How about all football games being 4 out of 7 subgames.  Now the best action in football is in the last two minutes of the half and the last two minutes of the game.  Just eliminate the other 56 minutes of filler and call it a subgame (set?) and play 4 out of 7 subgames of four minutes each.  Each subgame would have a two minute first half and a two minute second half.

    You make it sound as lame as basketball (none / 0) (#133)
    by FreakyBeaky on Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 11:23:03 PM EST
    Hockey fan myself.

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    Oh Yeah! (none / 0) (#148)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 02:57:16 PM EST

    The great thing about hockey is that its all fast all the time.  No drag at all.

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    I always forget ... (none / 0) (#149)
    by FreakyBeaky on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 01:00:45 PM EST
    ... over the off-season how fast it is.  

    It's early yet, but I've already come to a conclusion:  Alexander Semin is a sick stickhandler.

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