home

Tuesday Night Open Thread

We've been busy today and I'm not quite up to speed on the news.

It's also time for V and DWTS, and my Saigon soft-shell crab dinner just arrived.

Here's an open thread, all topics welcome, whether about news, tv, food or anything else that's on your mind.

< 2nd Circuit: Affirms Lawyer Lynne Stewart 's Terrorism Conviction, Revokes Bail | Reconciliation, Cont'd >
  • The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news

  • Contribute To TalkLeft


  • Display: Sort:
    It's a start... (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 09:08:54 PM EST
    Residents of the C Street Christian fellowship house will no longer benefit from a loophole that had allowed the house's owners to avoid paying property taxes.

    Previously, the house -- despite being home to numerous lawmakers -- had been tax exempt, because it was classified as a church. That arrangement had allowed the building's owner, the secretive international Christian organization The Family, to charge significantly below market rents to its residents. In recent year, Senators John Ensign (R-NV), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Jim DeMint (R-SC), and Reps. Zach Wamp (R-TN), Bart Stupak (D-MI) and Mike Doyle (D-PA) have all reportedly called C Street home.

    Link

    How do you say 'Wow!' in Hebrew again ... ? (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Ellie on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 11:40:58 PM EST
    Because ... WOW!

    Jump is to vid and news story about hundreds of Rabbi's turning up at the home of one Joseph I Lieberman (I-Joseph I. Lieberman), reminding him about why it's important to support the public option on the health care bill.

    Rabbi Fish of Beth El, in Norwalk, calls on Lieberman's conscience to do the right thing. His invocation of the Torah commandment (Lo taamod al dam reakha, "Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbors") was especially poignant.

    "The moral imperative for our time is clear. Anyone whose guide in public policy is conscience, anyone who argues that faith and religious traditions should direct our actions, such a person must stand for universal health care in America," Fish concluded. "It happens we are all also citizens of Connecticut. That fact leads us to ask you Senator Lieberman, what is it that you stand for?"

    at Crooks and Liars

    Don't know "wow" (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by shoephone on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 11:59:13 PM EST
    but Gottenyu = omigod in Yiddish.

    I'd love to see the rabbis hand Joe Liar his a$$.

    Parent

    Thanks! Now how do you say ... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ellie on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 12:22:32 AM EST
    "I've had it with these m%therf%ckin rabbis on this m%therf%ckin plane!!!"

    (Click moreinfo to see what's what.)

    Parent

    I don't know how to say that! (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by shoephone on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 12:26:02 AM EST
    But, oy, those rabbis are meshuga!

    Parent
    Some of these politicians are so out (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by nycstray on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 01:03:56 AM EST
    of touch it's nuts. Good on the Rabbis for stepping up. We need more and more groups to stand up and speak out.

    On a related note. We are getting 3 more kosher soup kitchens. Here's a link to the video/news spot. Video has more info than the print below. I may go check it out as the one they are talking about is by me. I like their thought to recognizing and battling the "shame".

    We (our CSA) had some surplus cash from our bag promotion, so we bought 5 shares to donate to our local Pastor who takes it to a 'hood shelter/food pantry. We give our "leftovers" from distribution every week throughout the season to them and they are def hurting this year. Our Thanksgiving share will look a bit like this (prob more generous knowing our farmer) and for the shelter, multiplied by 5 or more:

    -Salad greens - 1/2 lb. (will keep for a week in the fridge)
    -Root vegetables (mix of potatoes, turnips, carrots, beets, parsnips and celery root) - total of about 12 lb. (will store for weeks in the fridge)
    -Cooking greens (kale or collards) - 1 lb. greens (will keep for a week or two in the fridge)
    -Butternut Squash - 3 squashes (will store for months at room temperature)
    -Garlic - 4 bulbs (will store for months at room temperature)
    -Leeks - 3 pieces (will store for weeks in the fridge)
    -Cabbage (green and red) - 2 heads (will keep for weeks in the fridge)
    -Onions - 1 lb. (will store for weeks at room temperature)

    Not near enough, but it will be appreciated. Apparently our donations are a big hit. (The Pastor lights up when he talks about showing up with the produce and the reception he gets from those that will be taking it home) We'll prob have extra fruit also, and since I'm working that day, I know where it will be going . . .

    Our politicians need to get out more. It's not about a photo op at a soup kitchen or pretending they have our best interests at heart on health care. The reality of the situation seems to be beyond so many of them . . . They need to meet our Pastor and the people he helps. The Rabbis and the people they help etc. . . . They need to start walking in the people's shoes . . .

    Parent

    Playing the Devil's Advocate Here (none / 0) (#16)
    by CoralGables on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 11:30:30 AM EST
    Why is it okay for the Rabbi's to step up, but not the Catholic Bishops?

    Parent
    I'd be fine with the Bishops (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by nycstray on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 11:43:22 AM EST
    speaking up on health care/hunger/needs of people. What I'm not fine with is them speaking up against my rights as a woman. It's one thing to remind the politicians who they are supposed to be looking out for, another to be instilling their religious beliefs into policy/law.

    Parent
    But to the Bishops (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 12:17:32 PM EST
    they aren't speaking against the rights of women, they are speaking up for the rights of the unborn.

    I'd prefer religion stay out of the political side myself. Otherwise, I find myself being contradictory in the debate if I defend one religious group's approach and deriding another, while at the same time arguing for the separation of church and state.

    Parent

    I can see your point (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by nycstray on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 01:07:38 PM EST
    for me there's a fine line. But it is a slippery slope. I guess I just have a hard time not approving of a group of people standing up saying "Hey! There's people dying over here!"

    I didn't realize earlier when I posted that this group wasn't just Rabbis:

    The letter, signed by 70 members of the clergy, posed this argument: "Whether from the words of Torah or the Gospels of Jesus, whether from the Talmud or the Koran -- our traditions all are explicit and clear on one thing: We are commanded to seek the welfare and healing of all those in our midst, especially the weak, especially the vulnerable."


    LAT article


    Parent
    Just finished reading Docterow's novel (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by oculus on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 12:11:36 AM EST
    "Homer and Langley," about the Collyer brothers, who were recluses and extreme pack rats and lived on the upper East Side in a brownstone in what is now Harlem.  Good read.  I didn't realize the Collyer brothers did in fact live this way in this location.  

    Saigon? New Saigon (none / 0) (#1)
    by white n az on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 08:25:48 PM EST
    The restaurant on Federal? That place is awesome and I had their soft-shell crab, breaded and fried and it was great.

    that's one of the best (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 08:34:00 PM EST
    Vietnamese restaurants in Denver, and I would have ordered from them if they had delivery and I were near them. I ordered it from a place that's closer to my house, not quite as good, but the same style. The menu calls it "Saigon soft-shell crab" ...there's also "One Night in Bangkok" which is soft-shell crab in a karmee curry sauce. (I prefer the crispy Saigon version and the chile lime sauce it comes with.)

    Parent
    I've yet to eat better Vietnamese (none / 0) (#4)
    by white n az on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 08:43:05 PM EST
    anywhere but I live in Phoenix...

    I've been to a few in LA but I have heard that the best are in Orange County but I have little reason to go to Orange County.

    New Saigon on Federal has a few flaws but their food is not one of them.

    Parent

    There's a wonderful (none / 0) (#8)
    by shoephone on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 11:12:27 PM EST
    "upscale" Vietnamese place in Seattle, called The Tamarind Tree. I had my birthday dinner there last year. It was very special. You would like it. Jeralyn would like it. For gosh sakes, everybody would like it.

    Parent
    Your girl (none / 0) (#3)
    by CoralGables on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 08:39:12 PM EST
    Melissa Rycroft is on DWTS tonight

    I know, she looks great (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 09:17:47 PM EST
    (she hasn't danced yet.) I read earlier she recently had swine flue.

    Parent
    DWTS was a miserable (none / 0) (#5)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 09:04:37 PM EST
    disappointment for me. I watched online three hours before it will broadcast in my zone :) Wish I had known about that website weeks ago.

    Why a disappointment? (none / 0) (#15)
    by sj on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 10:24:28 AM EST
    I had no idea what was going to happen, knowing that Donnie and Kelly were crowd favorites (and mine as well), while Mya and Joanna were consistently high-scorers.  

    I'd never really warmed to Mya until this week so I would have been fine with her departure, but in the end, there wasn't any one that I wanted to leave.  I was fine leaving it with the voters.

    I hope that next week has some good freestyle.  I don't know what to expect in that regard from any of these pros...

    Parent

    There's no one left who (none / 0) (#18)
    by Inspector Gadget on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 12:00:14 PM EST
    I enjoy watching. The stunning choreography from Derek makes the show IMHO.

    Parent