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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 01:57:55 PM EST
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Senate [HCR] Bill has Loophole Allowing Coverage Limits

That was an easy catch. Just wait till the lawyers start in on the meaning of "is," "may," "shall," "notice," etc. Regulation of health insurance does not work in the United States.

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    Post partisan unity schtick (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by magster on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 02:34:53 PM EST
    Obama is actively participating in killing the only amendment that has true bipartisan support.

    Got Hope?  

    Nope.

    Keep on wankin'... (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:04:32 PM EST
    ...Gator Boy.  

    Clearly, those millions of dollars in restitution we recover for Colorado residents every year for unpaid/late paid claims, unlawful denial of benefits, et al are a result of the failure of the regulatory oversite of health carriers.

    Millions? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:10:25 PM EST
    I am impressed. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the insurance companies are laughing at you while they count their Billions.

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    No doubt. (none / 0) (#6)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:15:41 PM EST
    But then, my enforcement tools are only as good as the legislature allows.  Give me better tools and I can guarantee they would be laughing as much.  

    It is silly to say something doesn't work when we haven't even tried it yet.  

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    The way our game is set up.... (none / 0) (#7)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:22:19 PM EST
    it can never really be tried Mile...government is wealth's protection racket, not the poor nor the sick's.  Any gains/protections we think we've won are merely scraps from the boss man's table...to protect wealth from the Marie Antionette treatment.

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    Which is why... (none / 0) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:37:51 PM EST
    ...need to get ourselves elected, my friend!  

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    You have my vote (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:40:01 PM EST
    I'll vote for Kirk Ferentz too. That guy knows how to get it done.

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    We'll make him... (none / 0) (#12)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:47:30 PM EST
    ...Athletic Czar.  For now, I'm just thrilled that he is staying put in the IC instead of praying to Touchdown Jesus.

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    Tell you what my man... (none / 0) (#16)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 04:53:01 PM EST
    since BTD's support kinda surprises me, (vp must really be a powerless position:)...get jbindc to pledge her support for the ticket and...f*ck it...I'm in for real!  

    Questions...Does the White House drug test? And can I wear a lucha libre mask the whole time?

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    Give me better tools (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:27:22 PM EST
    Precisely my point. They won't.

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    Maybe they won't... (none / 0) (#17)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 05:16:06 PM EST
    ...but that's not going to stop me from twisting arms and bending ears towards getting legislation introduced to remove the lifetime caps, doing away with retro-active cancellations and pre-ex.  Just as hard, if not harder, than we are currently doing to get rid of sex based rating.  At least on the State level.

    And luckily, we are the final arbitrators of the intent of any legislation, not the Company lawyers.  But, I do absolutely detest the wishy-washy "may" crap.  "Shall" is much preferred.  

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    Indeed (none / 0) (#15)
    by vicndabx on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:58:14 PM EST


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    Why not? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 02:31:20 PM EST
    Regulation of health insurance does not work in the United States.
    Enforcement (none / 0) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:11:06 PM EST
    is not a winning political proposition.

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    This post (none / 0) (#11)
    by Steve M on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:46:46 PM EST
    appears to be about a problem with legislation, not with regulation.

    Unless I am mistaken, I believe (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Anne on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:57:35 PM EST
    that once legislation passes, and is signed, it goes to the regulatory side of the process, where I would imagine things can get interesting - and this may be what BTD is referring to.

    Jane Hamsher is reporting that HHS knew all along about the language Harry dropped into the bill, so I guess they are all in on the Big Bamboozle.

    And, it's starting to look more and more like this "Medicare" buy-in will be just another head-fake, taking advantage of the name to garner support for something that isn't Medicare at all.

    Honestly, I think Rube Goldberg would be horrified at what the Congress is putting together - at least Rube's contraptions actually worked...

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    Both (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 03:51:24 PM EST
    It is NOT about the efforts of regulators, who mostly do the best they can.

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    sure it does: (none / 0) (#18)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 12, 2009 at 12:07:51 AM EST
    Regulation of health insurance does not work in the United States

    it gives the insurance company lawyers plenty of things to pick at, to either keep from insuring people, or deny payment of claims, when a customer has the nerve to become ill or get injured.

    Annual caps? (none / 0) (#19)
    by BrassTacks on Sat Dec 12, 2009 at 02:13:55 AM EST
    Is that really in the bill?  As a cancer survivor, that horrifies me.  Truly.  

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