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I lost my last regular season game of my fantasy football league, and thereby avoided playing the toughest team in the first round of the playoffs. Did I "throw" the game? Hard to say. I played an unorthodox lineup but all were point scorers. In fact, some of the changes added to my total.

I think the fantasy gods should not seek retribution against me.

This is an Open Thread.

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    omg Dexter omg (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:40:28 AM EST
    what a season.  what a finale.  heres to the best freaking tv show in the history of tv.
    the setup for next season makes the head spin.
    seriously.


    No kidding (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:46:57 AM EST
    I was so tired from unpacking and dog washing that I feel asleep before the end.........Josh shook me awake and rewound it.  I still get the chills thinking about it.  We love watching Dexter.  America has fallen in love with a serial killer.  We can't wait for Avatar.  We will go see it on Christmas Day but they sure are playing that "the technology didn't exist to make it until now" bit up aren't they.  I've heard it several times now from different sources.  Your video sits quietly in my sweater drawer :)  It is a good subject for a future game developer....this subject of existing graphic technologies.  Wish you were here to explain more.

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    it was amazing (none / 0) (#6)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:52:06 AM EST
    I rewound it and watched it again.  something I never do.
    ftr I predicted the surprise ending weeks ago.  and fortunately recorded it on a blog.  but it did not take away from the amazement.  those are simply the best writers in the business.
    next season is going to be amazing also.  the places they could go boggle the mind.
    here is my next season prediction.
    he will reveal himself to his sister. completely.  including Harrys role as well.

    about Avatar.  yes it looks really good.  but the technology part is crap.  they did the same thing in LOTR and even Beowulf.  they may be using it MORE than its been used before but nothing about it is groundbreaking.
    it will be interesting to see how well it does.  with the 24/7 ad blitz I suppose it can only do well.

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    Christmas in the recent past has been (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:58:11 AM EST
    such a consumer feeding frenzy.  Even in our house and that was with me digging my heals in hard every year because I wanted a Christmas that meant something more.  Look what happened to Playstation 2 :)  I want more substantial family memories for myself and the kids.  During the credit glut though I was so tired after all the presents and the food and then the cleaning up, the family has only gone to one Christmas movie since Josh has been born.  We will go this year though and I wonder how many families will return to such a tradition in lieu of tons of wrap and crap.

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    a few years ago (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:09:31 AM EST
    my extended family made an agreement.  we dont buy for each other anymore.  at least not in the blanket way we did before.  we sometimes make things or give special gifts.  but only the kids get the traditional presents.
    it has made christmas a lot more relaxed.  and fun actually.


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    Digging my heals in (I crack me up) (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:12:18 AM EST
    I haven't had coffee :)  Junior High level grammar skills don't even set in prior to coffee.

    Parent
    On your Dexter prediction (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:08:30 AM EST
    They seem to be laying the ground work for that aren't they? She doesn't like evil doers and she has a very gritty side.  And it explains why she ended up feeling and being ignored by her father, and Dexter is her only family now.  It's another diabolical conundrum of colliding ethics and raw humanity :)

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    totally (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:10:29 AM EST
    there was shot of her last night.  (after the garage door went up) and you could see.  she was putting it all together.


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    AND (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:11:39 AM EST
    that in combination with the surprise ending (why?) is going to leave Dexter with some splainin to do.


    Parent
    btw (none / 0) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:15:41 AM EST
    you know she is now his real life wife right?


    Parent
    Who is? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:31:04 AM EST
    The actress playing his wife or his sister?

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    his sister (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:44:25 AM EST
    How did I miss this (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:49:51 AM EST
    It was reported in 2007, that she was dating her Dexter co-star Michael C. Hall.[2] They announced in early January 2009 that they had eloped on New Year's Eve in California.[3][4] Their first public appearance as a married couple was at the 66th Golden Globe Awards on January 11, 2009.

    Being the Dexterphile and Jennifer Carpenter fan I am? I'm as surprised as I was by last night's ending!

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    they have not talked much (none / 0) (#26)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:54:31 AM EST
    about it.  I actually thought it might be her who ended up "leaving".  she is the one who has gotten the most outside work,Quarantine and other things, so I thought since they were married she might move on.
    last nights ending was not a surprise for me, I predicted it weeks ago.  remember when she was giving Dexter a ride to work after the totaled his car? and singing along to Boy George and not allowing Dexter to stop for coffee.
    I thought.  this is a setup.  
    if I was him I would have killed her on the spot.


    Parent
    Oh, I'm not saying she didn't have it coming (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:58:54 AM EST
    ;-)  Poor Rita...

    Every time I thought of that possibility I just thought of how rare it is for major characters to get killed off, and just dismissed it. I guess there is no such thing as job security on "Dexter".

    Parent

    In fact with all the extra filler (none / 0) (#30)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:01:27 AM EST
    storylines this season, I wish it had been a cop or two or three ending up in the porcelain coffin.

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    the possibilities for next season (none / 0) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:05:22 AM EST
    are downright thrilling.  Dexter as a bitter angry single parent with his moorings cut.  Deb closing in.  she is putting it together.
    as I said upthread.  I think next season will be when Deb finds out the truth.  about his AND Harry.
    what happens then? you tell me.


    Parent
    ftr (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:16:34 AM EST
    Wow, you sure did (none / 0) (#36)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:21:33 AM EST
    I didn't even fully get the Harry parallel until I read your post there.

    So do you think they were purposely making Rita more annoying this season so we would be happy she's gone? I read that hypothesis elsewhere too. I thought it was just to stress Dexter out with family life.

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    I think they were doing us a favor (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23:17 AM EST
    by making her realllly annoying.  first.
    or were they.  now we will all feel guilty.

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    I sort of do feel guilty (none / 0) (#39)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:26:36 AM EST
    But I do hope her kids stay with the grandparents...

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    cant happen IMO (none / 0) (#40)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:27:52 AM EST
    or at least I hope so.  they are needed for next season best scenes.


    Parent
    although (none / 0) (#41)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:28:44 AM EST
    come to think of it . . . .

    Dexter COMPLETELY without moorings.

    hmmmmm


    Parent

    he can keep the baby (none / 0) (#42)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:30:08 AM EST
    that is enough to give him the single parent stress if the writers feel that is needed.

    I'm just done with the teenagers.

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    I see Deb moving into the house (none / 0) (#43)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:31:15 AM EST
    and helping out/finding blood slides

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    well (none / 0) (#45)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33:04 AM EST
    the slides are now safely in a shipping container.
    but her moving in?  I can see that.

    I think the teenagers will stay.  to many story possibilities.

    Parent

    I was trying to remember (none / 0) (#48)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:34:54 AM EST
    did their dad Paul die in prison?

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    Paul was (none / 0) (#50)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:36:43 AM EST
    actually killed in prison.  where Dexter unfairly sent him.


    Parent
    Never mind (none / 0) (#46)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33:44 AM EST
    the slides are in the shipping container...maybe she'll find them there somehow and trace the whole thing back to Dexter.

    Heck, I give up trying to predict, since I have shown no facility in that area.

    Parent

    that was actually my third (none / 0) (#49)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:35:54 AM EST
    count them, third, correct Dexter finale prediction.
    I got that he and Ice Truck were brothers and that he would frame Doakes as the Bay Harbor Butcher.

    it has been noted that it is not a surprise that I think like a serial killer.


    Parent

    Ha! Speaking of Season 2... (none / 0) (#62)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:57:47 PM EST
    it certainly seems that sleeping with Dexter is a ticket to the grave. Ladies of Miami, and actresses wanting a long term job, take note.

    Parent
    Killing Rita off for being annoying :) (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:56:55 AM EST
    This has to be the best comment (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:39:37 AM EST
    so far today!!!

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    Oh man, me too (none / 0) (#20)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:42:32 AM EST
    I am rarely that rattled by a TV show. Just so sad.

    I too was thinking that the only place left to go is to have Deborah figure it all out. But I think the conclusion of that storyline would break me right apart. I love Deborah the best.

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    after last night (none / 0) (#32)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:08:12 AM EST
    I dont think they care much about breaking the audience apart.


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    Ha. No, indeed. (none / 0) (#35)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:17:23 AM EST
    Obama did not cheat (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by glennmcgahee on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:45:41 AM EST
    the DNC did it for him. As a Florida voter, I'll never forget that my own party ignored 1.8 million votes. As for Ms Huffington. She asked for opinions of Hillary's speech but banned any of us who supported her. No wonder she's surprised.

    Ouch! (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:49:21 AM EST
    But I don't feel sorry for what the unprincipled suffer today.  I just witness it and flinch a little.

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    hooray for our side (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:52:55 AM EST
    Houston elects first openly gay mayor

    I heard her speech.  she is very impressive.

    Pretty excellent, isn't it? (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by andgarden on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:24:03 AM EST
    Do we expect President Obama (none / 0) (#74)
    by KeysDan on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 03:05:00 PM EST
    to stand at the new Houston mayor's side, at his first opportunity, for a fine congratulatory photo-op?

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    I say this every day (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:55:14 AM EST
    I think the fantasy gods should not seek retribution against me


    after signing in (none / 0) (#4)
    by glennmcgahee on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 08:47:40 AM EST
    my comment  went in the wrong post. Sorry bout that. No wonder I was banned at Huffington Post.

    I thought your post did fine here (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:10:25 AM EST
    I think it is safe to say that it hasn't lost any meaning by being in this thread.

    Parent
    Is BTD apologizing for anything? Doesn't (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:41:22 AM EST
    seem so.  

    When I read his post (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:44:02 AM EST
    I was having flashbacks to the teenager who used to live here :)  It's as close as some can get :)  But he negotiates everything with everyone....even Gods :)

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    US District Judge... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:48:53 AM EST
    defends the 1st and upholds the right to be mean via speech...which, somewhat ironically, was a very nice thing to do.

    Good job Judge Wilson.  But this fight is far from over...

     

    Right call (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:52:13 AM EST
    But I hope those kids who posted that get the cr@p beat out of them somewhere....

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    Nice to agree... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 09:58:59 AM EST
    on one jb....criminal or subject to disciplinary action bu authorties, no freakin' way, not in a free country.  

    Punishable by summary street justice judgement via a right cross to the beak otoh...works for me.

    Parent

    The millenial generation (none / 0) (#33)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:11:06 AM EST
    is used to being coddled and protected, and the 'advocates' for millenials do overreact frequently. Look at parents who crawl up teachers' backsides for giving 'bad grades' to their children.


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    I don't know (none / 0) (#37)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:21:48 AM EST
    If this person qualifies as a "millenial"

    Depending on who's counting of course, I think it ends around 1995, and if this person is in 8th grade they are either at the tail end of it or the front end of the next one.

    There's a whole new generation to pick on now.

    What's the matter with kids today (or is it parents?)!

    Parent

    Well, it is kind of stupid (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by brodie on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:37:27 AM EST
    and narrowminded to indict an entire generation for the actions of one or a few.  

    Kinda typical ugly, bullying behavior that's not uncommon for kids of that age from any generation.

    It's just that previous generations didn't have the ability to broadcast such disgusting personal broadsides so far and wide.

    Best not to criminalize such behavior, but handle it in less draconian ways.

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    I'm a sociologist. (none / 0) (#55)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 11:42:50 AM EST
    I wrote a 30-page peer-reviewed article on this subject. And this person is a millenial.

    Parent
    hit 'send' too quickly, fat finger syndrom. (none / 0) (#56)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 11:46:25 AM EST
    Millenials are counted now up to about 02 or 03, according to some of the latest manifestations.
    So-- as a generation, coddled, protected, no failure, and helicopter parents. As individuals, well of course there will be variability. but the generational traits are there.

    Of course there's some dispute over whether this generation is any different than others...

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    02 or 03? (none / 0) (#57)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54:08 AM EST
    I find it really hard to believe that people born that late have enough in common with those of us born in the 80s to be part of the same "generation".

    I don't do research on the issue, but I think the definitive characteristic for most of us is that we grew up in the 90's and 00's.

    Being born in 2003 means you weren't alive for 9/11.  I think if you were too young to remember that, you automatically don't qualify.

    If all you are using to define the generation is "coddled with helicopter parents" - I think you can keep counting forever, IMO...  There are a lot more traits than just that.

    Parent

    Well (none / 0) (#58)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:09:35 PM EST
    The Baby Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964, and you could make the same argument about them - those born in 1946 remember Korea and Vietnam, while those born in 1964 came of age when disco was king.  Even Obama made this mistake...constantly referring to the Baby Boom generation as one different from his own.

    Parent
    Among the boomer is a split-- (none / 0) (#61)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:51:42 PM EST
    the boomers and Generation Jones, as it's called, still the baby boom generation, but different characteristics. the 55-64 folks have higher levels of cynicism than the 46-54's, among other characteristics.

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    It's hard not to split (none / 0) (#64)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 01:04:22 PM EST
    when you are born a decade apart.

    Although I will note that the '46-64 range is still half a decade or more shorter than what you are suggesting ends in '02 or '03 (I assume it starts between '78-80).

    I guess I'm willing to accept those born in the 90's as part of it - but only with an asterik :) - they need another nickname too.

    Parent

    The Boomer Generation has been (none / 0) (#72)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 02:30:27 PM EST
    re-defined by the marketers.

    The true Baby Boomers were called that because they were born within a year or so of the troops returning from WWII. My sister was born in '47 and was actually considered barely part of the Boomers. I came along in '49 and always felt a bit short-changed by not being included in the group.

    Marketing demographics re-wrote the span of generations.


    Parent

    The years and the commonalities among these (none / 0) (#63)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 01:01:13 PM EST
    diparate-- to you-- groups might not match up to your specific definition, but the commonalities are the defining attributes. the article should be published by June of next year, i'll post a link when it is.

    Among other generational characteristics here in the US:
    a generation that grew up with ubiquitous communications technology;
    a generation that grew up with more emphasis by schools and parents on safety and security;
    a generation much more likely to believe in group rather than individual effort;
    a generation that has delayed, or been allowed to delay traditional adult responsibilities, leading to what sociologists call 'adultolescence;'
    a generation much more likely to join groups, and to work toward common goals;
    a generation that is much more likely to use electronic communications instead of face-to-face communications

    there's plenty more, but I'll wait till it's published. Since it's academic, it'll be free, and chock full o' citations.


    Parent

    sure (none / 0) (#65)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 01:08:08 PM EST
    but a part of me feels like this is just gonna be true for all people who were born after a certain point.  At what year do any of these things end?

    Growing up with "technology" is like saying you grew up with "tv".  It started at a certain point, but it will never really end.  Same with electric communications.

    As for delaying traditional adult responsibilities - I don't know how you can say that for those born later, they are still kids, they don't have any adult responsibility to delay yet.

    Parent

    types and uses of technologies. Cells, the Internet, and the instantaneous feedback are hallmarks. Millenials did not have to learn these technologies as adults, but accept them as ubiquitous. Older generation's members, like myself, who may have grown up even without television, don't look at texchnologies the same way you do. We may use them, but they are still objects outside of us, even as elements somewhat beyond our control.

    Nope, not making this up. did plenty of research on it. Television itself, while available, was limited to only a few channels until really about the end of the 80's in most places in the US. Even cable systems, those few that existed, has 11 or 12 channels.

    Black and white was the expectation from twelwvision, not color. In the 60's for example, a color television cost about half as much as an automobile.

    These experiences, among others, make for big generational differences in perception of reality and in attitude.

    If the trends continue, and there's nothing to suggest that they won't the adultolescence will increase even more, possibly to approach 30 years old.

    Given the extending life spans, and life expectancy, quality of life in health terms, it's no wonder people are deferring traditional adult responsibilities, such as career work, marriage, childbearing, till later ages.

    Of course, millenials re a lot like the early boomers in their disdain for older generations. Millenials will join groups-- groups and organizations of other millenials.

    Just saying in a few short paragraphs I can mention highlights, but no more. the traits of the generation are there. doesn't mean that each member is an automaton, marching in lockstep, but the characteristics are certainly there.

    Parent

    Excited... (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 01:59:55 PM EST
    to read your whole study jeff!  Interesting stuff.

    Does it count as "adultolescence" if you support yourself yet refuse to grow-up and accept "adult responsibilities" outside of clothing and feeding yourself?

    Parent

    kdog, I don't think so... (none / 0) (#70)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 02:23:10 PM EST
    Adultolescense is strongly connected to boomerang kids, although I have been reading lately that there's more to it... It's one thing to be peter pan, he and the lost boys were, actually, on their own.

    there is a delayed expectation of the full assumption of adult roles and statuses, though. In our culture, marriage is one of those rites of passage, yet the average age of first marriage gets older and older-- 20 years ago it was about 23 for males, this year (or actually 08, 30 years old.

    Now nobody can argue that marriage makes one more mature. however by societal rules, it's just one of those steps to maturity that's still a societal artifact.

    there's more of a societal expectation to be unmarried longer, whether living at home as a boomerang or independent and working full time.


    Parent

    It used to be (none / 0) (#71)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 02:26:08 PM EST
    a shameful thing if you had to live at home after you were an adult (and I say this as someone who did have to move back home).  Nowadays, it's almost expected that kids move back home after college.

    Of course, there used to be a lot more shame about a lot of other things too.....

    Parent

    moving back home (none / 0) (#73)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 02:46:20 PM EST
    one thing I will say about this, is that the cost of a house, as a percentage of yearly income (for an average young person), has skyrocketed since my parents were my age.

    When you consider what the economy is like right now, and compare it to the depression-era folks, I wonder how different it is from then.  There was a lot of multi-generational living back then too.  Although this was certainly going on well before the economy tanked.

    But there are some very real financial reasons as well as maturity reasons for why things have changed.

    Parent

    I still think (none / 0) (#67)
    by CST on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 01:41:39 PM EST
    you are making the mistake of comparing to generations that came before as opposed to generations that come after.

    For example, I know that millenials have a completely different relationship with technology than previous generations and this has been a distinguishing characteristic for us.

    But what I am asking is, how is this any different from what is happening to the NEXT generation of kids?  They will have this relationship too - only more so.  Technology is not going away.  But the definition of a generation can't just go on forever.  It has to end somewhere.

    And again, we don't know if 7 year olds today have "adultolescence".  We can make some assumptions that they will based on everything that you mention, but that doesn't seem to be different from 3 year olds either.

    These are all characteristics that seperate us from the people who came before.  I am just wondering what will seperate us from those that come after.

    Personally, I think it will have to do, somewhat, with having grown up in good economic times vs. those that are younger today, who will see a lot more war/hardship during their formative years.

    Parent

    Very true... (none / 0) (#44)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:31:46 AM EST
    Not to belittle bullying of course...its an awful thing for a kid to go through.  Criminalizing it or sero-tolerancing it, however, is just not the way to go...better to help kids learn how to deal with it and counter it...it is a fact of life after all.

    Like my youngest niece with scoliosis in kindergarten...she is starting to get picked on for being a slow runner with a funny-looking stride. Came home upset about it one day last week.  After explaining how everyone has things they are good at and things they are not so good at, my sister told her when the kids call her a slow-poke to say "I may be slow but at least I'm smart" and see if that shuts 'em up.  I thought it was a good way to handle it.

    Parent

    Actually (none / 0) (#47)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:34:06 AM EST
    i don't advocate violence, but I can only imagine what this girl's parents (and the girl) must be going through.  It's one thing for Sally to call Jane names and stick her tongue out - it's an entirely different thing for stuff to be posted on YouTube.  

    And where I disagree with the judge, is that this has the potential to "materially disrupt the education process", which means the judge will have to change his ruling.

    But I'd still like to personally smack the heck out of those kids who did this.

    Parent

    I'm not advocating violence... (none / 0) (#52)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:38:34 AM EST
    either really, just advocating for sticking up for yourself...and if comes to a donnybrook so be it, sometimes its the only language a bully will understand.

    Parent
    And their parents (none / 0) (#53)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 10:39:28 AM EST
    for raising and allowing their kids to be a$$holes.

    Parent
    Was it the bully's parents (none / 0) (#59)
    by coast on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:14:24 PM EST
    who brought the suit against the school or some outside group on behalf of the bully?

    If I were the bully's parents I wouldn't be bringing a lawsuit against the school for a two day suspension.  I would be grounding my kid for a lot longer term for being a bully.  I would also make my kid apologize to the individual, and would likely make my kid post the apology on YouTube as well.

    Parent

    Bully's parents... (none / 0) (#69)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 02:02:01 PM EST
    if I'm reading it right...and I would have done the same eaxct thing...after sorting my kid out about why its not cool to pick on people.  

    What my kid posts on youtube on their own time is none of the school's business.

    Parent

    Tiger Woods' wife is apparently (none / 0) (#60)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 12:48:38 PM EST
    no longer wearing her wedding ring.

    13 "girlfriends" so far. I really cannot imagine Tiger ever playing professional golf again. He would be heckled at at every step.

    I hope I'm wrong.