FU Sirota, this is YOUR pig in a poke, yours and others like you who let an irrational hatred of the best President since WWII (unquestionably the best Dem President, with Johnson coming close.  JFK trails because outside of the Missle Crisis, he really didn't do a lot, although I readily grant that there is an obvious reason for that) so that you could nominate and elect someone who thinks that Regressives have some good ideas when anyone who isn't a millionaire should know that that is utter stupidity at this point.

So sorry you whiny skidmark, but those of us who knew better aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so get comfortable Mr. Centrist and make believe that you actually have some guts and face up to the music that YOU paid for.

I believe we can never get the international trade genie back in to the bottle. I believe that "protectionism" is past it's time. I believe Americans have over consumed resources and the level of every day living in our country is so different than much of the world.

I walk into a grocery store, now, at the worst of times and I see an abundance of food, and am overwhelmed at times, how much we have compared to how many people are literally starving.

"unwilling to stand up for progressive principles"

i bet you can't name 10 things obama has done since he has been in office

if you can name 10 things

which of those things aren't " progressive" ?

which do you disagree with?

Stop criticizing Obama based off of what you read in the newspaper or tee-vee. Unless he has said it out of his mouth or there is a direct quote, in context, i would be hard press to believe anything the msm said.  Their number 1 job in to write or say provactive things to drive readership or eyeballs inorder to sell tv or ad space period.

Example Media Polls in the 2008 General Election.

Example: Fox News Corp.

We have no idea where Obama would have come down on the war had he been a sitting Senator.  None.  You'd be more accurate to say "Hillary was there, Obama was not" and if that makes you feel better about Obama, great

Actually, we DO have an idea where he would have come down. Remember this? In 2004 he said "There's not that much difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage," and that also in 2004, he didn't think the case for war had been made, but he didn't know how he would have voted had he had access to classified information at the time, because he was not in the United States Senate.

And I agree with you on this:

There was no chance Hillary wouldn't win and no evidence she were less electable

The election would have been over the night of her acceptance speech at the convention.  It wouldn't have been as close as it was through September and October.  He's done a few early things that have surprised me and I think have been good, but I think once we get some sort of stimulus bill and the months trudge on, and the newness of Our Very First Black President wears off, I think we'll see a much less progressive leader.  He's already shown he'll cave to Republicans on things like more tax cuts and rendition (and besides, they have good ideas).

Going to be an interesting 4 years.

obama was nothing. since, at the time, he had zero say in the matter, and made one famously tepid speech, that perhaps five people heard, he has no claim to being "right" on anything.

Because I know folks from Chicago and downstate IL who remember very well when he gave his speech(es) on the Iraq war and held protests against the war as a State Senator.  Hillary voted for the war because she was being advised by that odious Mark Penn and because she thought that the only way to best position herself for a WH run would be to act like a hawk.

The mistake that lots of people make is that just because Hillary was in the Senate for 7 years that she actually accomplished a lot--she didn't. She got a Post Office renamed in NY and that is about it.  Her last name was Clinton so many believed that the experience of her husband was transferable--it isn't.  

Hillary is an outstanding individual in her own right and her advocacy should not be discounted but these ignorant arguments about how "inexperienced" Obama was compared to Hillary need to stop.

politics is partisan, by its very nature. to think otherwise is to demonstrate your total detachment from reality.

Right on the nose cpinva.  The whole post-partisan schtick can only appeal to Village media and those who've never paid close attention.