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Liberal Bloggers Team With Labor to Move Dems Left

Say hello to Accountability Now. It launches tomorrow, and is a political action committee which will seek out liberal candidates to move the Democratic party to the left.

Soliciting donations from their readers, the bloggers said they were planning to recruit liberal candidates to challenge more centrist Democrats currently in Congress.

The formation of the group is another step in the evolution of the blogosphere, which has proven effective at motivating party activists to give money and time to political campaigns, especially in local races.

Who's behind it? On the blogger end, Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake, Glenn Greenwald and Daily Kos, to name a few. They've already bankrolled $500k. On the labor side, SEUI. Also involved: Move-On.org.

Fundraising starts for real next month.

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    The inclusion of MoveOn (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:12:27 PM EST
    makes me pretty sure that I won't be getting involved personally.

    The inclusion of Daily Kos gives me pause... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:16:38 PM EST
    Imo, Greenwald is pretty much in a class by himself. If there were more of him, we'd be onto something.

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    Dkos gives me some pause (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:20:04 PM EST
    but MoveOn is out because it has three strikes in my opinion: it's incompetent at effective advocacy,  its management has in my opinion demonstrated a desire for self-promotion over effectiveness, and its very involvement guarantees that the coalition will likely not be taken seriously.

    I don't go to ANSWER rallies, either.

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    Their mandate focuses on incumbents (none / 0) (#16)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:44:39 PM EST
    Accountability Now appears to be focusing exclusively on Congressional incumbents. I see no mention of holding the new administration accountable. That is a troubling omission, considering that the previous administration was completely unburdened by oversight from the fourth estate; and look how well that turned out.
    Accountability Now PAC announced its plans today to use primaries to hold incumbents to account for voting with corporate interests instead of their constituents.


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    I see nothing good (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by NYShooter on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:35:34 PM EST
    coming out of this coalition.

    Kos & "lake define "shrill" in the general public's, non-blog  mind; Connecticut voters looked at them (Lamont was invisible) and decided they'd rather have the old, familiar slipper, Lieberman.

    Obama has probably already told the secret service, "no photo ops with those people, confiscate any camera that goes "click".....for national security reasons.


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    Funny, Greenwald just admitted (none / 0) (#18)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:48:06 PM EST
    that these orgs can't bite that hand.

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    Not surprising, where did Glenn say that? (none / 0) (#21)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:01:50 PM EST
     

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    See (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:07:22 PM EST
    here.

    During the 2008 election, Obama co-opted huge portions of the Left and its infrastructure so that their allegiance became devoted to him and not to any ideas.  Many online political and "news" outlets -- including some liberal political blogs -- discovered that the most reliable way to massively increase traffic was to capitalize on the pro-Obama fervor by turning themselves into pro-Obama cheerleading squads.  Grass-roots activist groups watched their dues-paying membership rolls explode the more they tapped into that same sentiment and turned themselves into Obama-supporting appendages.  Even labor unions and long-standing Beltway advocacy groups reaped substantial benefits by identifying themselves as loyal foot soldiers in the Obama movement.
    The major problem now is that these entities -- the ones that ought to be applying pressure on Obama from the Left and opposing him when he moves too far Right -- are now completely boxed in.  They've lost -- or, more accurately, voluntarily relinquished -- their independence.  They know that criticizing -- let alone opposing -- Obama will mean that all those new readers they won last year will leave; that all those new dues-paying members will go join some other, more Obama-supportive organization; that they will prompt intense backlash and anger among the very people -- their members, supporters and readers -- on whom they have come to rely as the source of their support, strength, and numbers.

    Of course, that was mostly during the campaign. So one might ask him, what if anything has changed since then? I believe the answer is "nothing," and the AN mission statement proves it.

    Pull on this string enough, and maybe Chris Bowers will write 5,000 words putting you down incoherently.

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    It's a new column... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:23:13 PM EST
    (Feb 13/09) examining the lack of critique of Obama in the left blogosphere, beginning during the primaries and continuing into the present; Obama and liberals: a counter-productive relationship (Glenn Greenwald, Salon).

    I thought it was remarkably bold and accurate. Perhaps Greenwald used that column to shame some of the accused into joining the Accountability Now project. It appears to be compromised at its core. Whether it will be significantly constructive remains to be seen.

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    BTD and others (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:30:49 PM EST
    have been making essentially the same arguments since 2007. Let's just put it this way: it isn't only about Obama.

    It appears to be compromised at its core.

    Indeed.

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    Clarify, I said Accountability Now seems to be (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 10:22:45 PM EST
    "compromised at the core", because it focuses exclusively on pressuring Democratic Congressional incumbents, while excluding any questioning of the Administration. Greenwald, evidently, believes the clubby left blogosphere is totally unwilling to entertain any critique of Obama; ergo they are arguably compromised at the core.

    Who else, or what else, could that pertain to? The DLC, the DNC, the Blue Dogs, the majority of Democrats in Congress? Is that the full extent of it? Are we really that f****d? (I think we might be.)

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    Great (none / 0) (#36)
    by kaleidescope on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 10:59:47 PM EST
    So go start your own PAC, one that has more effective, right on, politically astute people involved than dKos, Firedoglake and MoveOn.  A PAC made up of much more astute people.  A PAC made up not just of talkers and gesticulators, but of actual doers.  A PAC made up of people like you.

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    Glenn and Jane (none / 0) (#7)
    by joanneleon on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:28:39 PM EST
    I believe the founders of Accountability Now were Glenn Greenwald and Jane Hamsher.  Moveon and DKos came on later.  I hope that Glenn and Jane are still the ones leading the PAC, so to speak.  I trust both of them.  In any case, this is our best shot right now at reforming the party so that it is more accountable to the people, so I'm in.

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    Well, they made a judgement (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:31:29 PM EST
    to let MoveOn get involved. I strongly disagree with that judgement, even though I have an idea of why they made it.

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    I'm with you on that (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by joanneleon on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:39:55 PM EST
    Maybe Moveon has changed, or something ;)

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    MoveOn.org has the experience in (none / 0) (#30)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:55:48 PM EST
    organizing and fundraising. They also have a large built-in membership to use as a foundation. Blogs have not been able to accomplish organizing for action...

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    They are very effective at what they do (5.00 / 0) (#32)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:55 PM EST
    But what they do isn't very interesting or useful to me or, IMO, the left.

    Parent
    They're Sunk (none / 0) (#37)
    by kaleidescope on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:01:31 PM EST
    You don't approve of them.

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    So do you think... (none / 0) (#8)
    by Thanin on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:28:46 PM EST
    moveon will completely preclude any possible positive outcome here?

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    Completely? No. (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:30:18 PM EST
    But I'm sure enough that I'm not going to be getting involved.

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    Im going for... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Thanin on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:34:24 PM EST
    a wait and see approach with this.  So no offense, but I hope youre wrong about this.

    Parent
    Me too (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:35:29 PM EST
    But don't be surprised if they do something incredibly stupid and, ahem, "betrayus."

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    Ever since I read about this earlier, (5.00 / 0) (#5)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:21:15 PM EST
    I have had the voice of Frank Costanza in my head, screaming "Serenity Now!!!"

    I am a bad, bad person.

    Anne, explain please? (none / 0) (#6)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:24:01 PM EST
    There's something about the (5.00 / 5) (#13)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:37:33 PM EST
    "Now" part of "Accountability Now" that reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Frank is trying to bring his blood pressure down, and instead of saying "Serenity Now" he starts yelling it in typical Frank Costanza fashion.

    Silly, I know.

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    You're funny (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Steve M on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:56:02 PM EST
    Now I am going to be hearing that too.  ACCOUNTABILITY NOW!!!

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    Would this organization (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:44:37 PM EST
    also do vigilance on policy matters like Social Security?

    Evidently, only at the level (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:47:38 PM EST
    of Congressional incumbents, if at all. (I made a related comment #16 above.)

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    Their silence will speak volumes (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:48:47 PM EST
    Yup (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:54:45 PM EST
    Now that I've gotten the silly side of (5.00 / 4) (#23)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:06:40 PM EST
    me under control, time for a serious comment.

    What struck me about this effort is not that it isn't well-intentioned and much-needed - because it is - but that somewhere in the back of my head, I couldn't help but wonder if this group is now placing its hope on Congress because Obama seems impervious to pressure from the left on some of the most important issues that matter to us.

    I am also not crazy about MoveOn's involvement; in fact, I view them as Kryptonite to whatever the power of the left blogosphere is.

    But maybe it's all about the mailing list.

    Anne, right on all accounts... (none / 0) (#35)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 10:34:06 PM EST
    I would add, it isn't only that Obama "seems impervious to pressure from the left on some of the most important issues that matter to us".

    It's also disturbing that most of the A-list left bloggers won't critique Obama for fear of being thrown out of their own village - that's how Greenwald see it. See the LINK to Greenwald's article, above in my comment #25 (or see Andgarden's link).

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    I Don't Think (none / 0) (#39)
    by The Maven on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:27:03 PM EST
    that AN is focusing on Congress because of the perceived imperviousness of Obama, but largely because it's a whole lot easier to bring pressure to bear against, say, a single House member than the President.  Additionally, AN is a direct outgrowth of some initiatives Jane and Glenn had worked on in the first half of 2008 to highlight the failures of Congressional Democrats who all too frequently were caving to the Administration and/or GOP threats -- particularly when there was no reason at all for them to do so.  Thus, it's earliest incarnation was to hold Representatives' and Senators' feet to the fire.

    I completely concur about the more recent additions probably only serving to water down the good the PAC might have served; keeping it more narrowly-based might make it more effective in the end.

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    "Move-On" is to the (none / 0) (#41)
    by NYShooter on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:53:49 PM EST
    Progressive movement as Al Sharpton is to Civil Rights.....instant, visceral, blink...fringe freaks.

    So uneasy, and uncomfortable, having attained power, the Democrats can't wait for the Republicans to gather themselves up for the counter attack; they must hand them the weapons to be used against themselves.

    Can't wait to see what sound-bite-slur Limbaugh dubs them with.

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    On the contrary (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by andgarden on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:02:31 AM EST
    If MoveOn were as effective as Al Sharpton (for whom I have a soft spot) I might consider sending this venture some money.

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    "soft spot" notwithstanding, (none / 0) (#53)
    by NYShooter on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 02:59:49 PM EST
    Blink theory postulates that an event which requires reasoned, cognitive, and lawful adjudication is instantly relegated to "freak show" status the instant Sharpton enters the arena.
    Rightly, or wrongly, for a great plurality of Americans, that is the reaction.

    (BTW, I lived in the Town next to Wappingers Falls during the Brawley fiasco. You'll excuse me for not forgetting, nor forgiving, what undeserved, and unjustified hurt Sharpton inflicted on my neighbors.)


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    My guess on why they are focused on (none / 0) (#49)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 07:41:39 AM EST
    Congress is because there is another election in 2 years for those guys and if they competely botch the economic recovery efforts during these two years we can attempt to pull a stronger group of people together for the second two years of the administration. A failure in this 4 year term has the potential of getting the Republicans back in power for decades to come.

    In my opinion, the way the SDs behaved during this election season is a very solid reason for all of us to keep a close eye on the ones who are on our ballots.

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    I guess I'm a little confused, (none / 0) (#51)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 08:11:55 AM EST
    as usual, because as I read AN's mission statement, they are going to
    use primaries to hold incumbents to account for voting with corporate interests instead of their constituents.

    And:

    Accountability Now PAC will recruit, coordinate, and support primary challenges against vulnerable Congressional incumbents who have become more responsive to corporate America than to their constituents," said Accountability Now's new Executive Director, Jeff Hauser. "By empowering the grassroots, Accountability Now will help create the political space needed to enable President Obama to make good on the many progressive policies he campaigned on - such as getting out of Iraq, ensuring access to affordable health care for every man, woman and child, restoring our constitutional liberties and ending torture."

    So, they're starting now to recruit for 2010 - putting targets on the backs of current members of Congress.  Is that threat supposed to then move the incumbents to the left and away from the corporate interests?  And what if it does?  What if they become more responsive and start voting the way we want them to?  Does the target come off, or does AN continue with plans to primary those incumbents who shape up?

    Maybe I'm missing something - happy for someone to enlighten me.

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    If A.N. pulls the center left... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by lambert on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:28:11 PM EST
    ... we just have to pull A.N. more left. This is good, but not unalloyed good, that's all. Nothing is. Bring the shrill!


    centrists (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by diogenes on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:54:52 PM EST
    Most centrists are that way because they are in swing states or districts and represent the views of their voters.  Replacing Harry Reid or Robert Byrd with "someone more liberal" won't exactly keep Nevada's or West Virginia's senate seats Democratic.    

    I hope they are very selective in their (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by Teresa on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 09:05:03 PM EST
    choices. I'd like to replace four of the five Dems from Tennessee, but, unfortunately, a liberal primary winner won't win their seat. A fake moderate Republican will.

    I hope they choose the ones who live in safe Democratic districts and still let us down. They have no excuse.

    My fear (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by cal1942 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:43:52 AM EST
    as well.

    We have a solid majority in the House and should be very, very careful about going after our own incumbents.

    It's counterproductive to go after an incumbent who goes off the reservation once in awhile in exchange for a total whack-job Republican.

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    Well, there are a fair number of Dems (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by andgarden on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:58:24 AM EST
    who are out of step with their districts. I have no problem with targeting jerks like Dan Lipinski.

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    Oh I agree. It's the southern blue dogs (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Teresa on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:07:35 AM EST
    that don't have a choice some times. The more moderate ones I can live with as long as they vote with us on the important stuff.

    I do kind of hope Jim Cooper gets a good opponent. He lives in a district in TN where he doesn't have to be as conservative as he is. I hope someone good beats him.

    p/s I also have a soft spot for Al Sharpton.

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    I also (none / 0) (#47)
    by cal1942 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:50:01 AM EST
    have a soft spot for Al Sharpton.

    So that's at least three of us.

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    If their mere existence is enough to make (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 09:18:00 PM EST
    the democratic reps and senators think long and hard about their votes, it might serve the purpose.

    I'd love to see a website other than the gov't site where all issues being voted on are explained in clear layman's words and shown as consistent with or contrary to previous bills. Then show the votes of all congressional members to see which ones aren't voting consistently. Those are the people who are unclear about what they are voting on, or being bought by special interests, or just aren't working for the people.

    Signed up (none / 0) (#4)
    by joanneleon on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 07:21:04 PM EST
    This is the next phase, "better Democrats," that we've been waiting for.

    A definite may be (none / 0) (#22)
    by koshembos on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:02:10 PM EST
    It's SEIU. This is the less lefty union among the big ones; it does more for Stern than for its workers. Kos is CDS tainted. MoveOn should move on.

    That's a beginning and it will evolve, let give it a chance.

    Thanks, but no thanks. (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ben Masel on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 08:41:10 PM EST
    I'm sticking to $1 contributions from individuals for my 2012 race v Herb Kohl.

    Where Can We Send Donations? (none / 0) (#38)
    by kaleidescope on Thu Feb 26, 2009 at 11:09:14 PM EST
    I could never understand why Herb Kohl wanted to be a senator.  He doesn't seem to be very interested in the work.  He has no agenda.

    Herb is a likable person.  Back in the seventies, I used to run into him at the George Webbs on Cathedral Square in Milwaukee.  Early, early morning he'd be in there eating a 3:00 a.m. breakfast and kidding around with his neighbors.  A genuinely nice guy.

    But every time you see him on TV -- like during the Anita Hill hearings -- Herb just doesn't seem to fit.

    Do you have any idea why Herb Kohl ran for the Senate in the first place?

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    Please do tell us where.. (none / 0) (#52)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:35:44 PM EST
    to send our buck Ben...I've never given a dime to a candidate before, you'll be my first!

    Just hope you accept cash:)

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    Masel for Senate (none / 0) (#54)
    by Ben Masel on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 05:22:17 PM EST
    1214 E. Mifflin St.
    Madison, WI, 53703

    Cash preferred.

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    Wait and See (none / 0) (#48)
    by jsj20002 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 07:29:58 AM EST
    I put my name down, but no money yet.  Greenwald, Hamsher and dKos deserve a chance.  Haven't supported anything MoveOn has done since the General Betrayus ad.  I just hope they don't direct all their fire at Dems.  

    You don't have to like a candidate's supporters (none / 0) (#50)
    by BobTinKY on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 07:54:24 AM EST
    in order to support a candidate that reflects your views.

    Accountability Now is an excellent idea and I look forward to contributing when asked next month.  I expect Obama will be held accountable as well as Congress, obviously the politicla dynamics of doing so are different given the nation-wide constuency of the President v. state/district for Congress persons.  

    I strongly supported Obama in the primaries and on balance I am happy with the outcome.  He needs to do more to fix the heinous Bush human rights policies no doubt, get rid of Geithner and co..  On the other hand, his budget is an incredible step forward given the status quo, he will pick fine jurists, he has begun restoring our Constitution, and he is so much better than any Republican could ever be.

    That said, he needs to move left with confidence and any vehicle that has that as its objective has my support.  If Obama, for example, cuts SS benefits I would like to see that position challneged in the 2012 primaries.

    If TL and other blogs wish to join this effort or begin one of their own with the same objective I will be just as supportive.