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I think I am going to watch the Gas Bags this morning, just to see how out of touch they are.

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    Atrios (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by NealB on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:10:38 AM EST
    "Deep Thought:
    "So why can't I buy borrow money from the government to buy up a bunch of financial assets with no recourse loans?"

    Not greedy. I just need a couple hundred thou.

    Those no recourse loans (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:20:27 AM EST
    are the establishment's way of guaranteeing the status quo, that the people who made this mess will be rewarded for their profligacy at our expense.

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    The non-recourse loans (none / 0) (#68)
    by Green26 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 03:06:28 PM EST
    will not be made to the troubled companies. They will be made to newly formed partnerships.

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    I'm aware of who (none / 0) (#80)
    by cal1942 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:31:50 PM EST
    will get the government backed loans.  The problem is that the tainted assets will likely sell for a higher price than they are actually worth.  The established institutions will be relieved that they'll receive more than real market value.

    Since the loans are non-recourse the buyers won't be so fussy about the price. At a point when they've milked a few bucks from their purchases they can walk away without suffering any ramifications.  Reclaiming those assets will mean that we've indirectly paid to insure that the current financial system with all it's deeply serious flaws will remain intact none the worse for wear.

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    I can't watch the gasbags (5.00 / 4) (#2)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:20:30 AM EST
    because Time Warner swapped out my cable box for a brick. They promise to remedy this afternoon.

    HA HA (none / 0) (#5)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:09:32 AM EST
    I'm going to chuckle on and off all day over that comment!


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    GRRRR (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:16:20 AM EST
    I empathize with you, andgarden (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:24:51 AM EST
    Really, I do. You just hit my funny bone with your description.


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    Had to read this comment (none / 0) (#10)
    by Cream City on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:19:30 AM EST
    to the spouse, too.  It got quite a guffaw, if a rueful one, after our bouts with Time Warner.  

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    I think everyone has at some time (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:23:42 AM EST
    had a similar problem with the cable company. Most of mine involve Comcast.

    In any case, at least the overpriced "high speed" internet connection is still working.

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    My parents got talked into (none / 0) (#13)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:27:17 AM EST
    Verizon Fios.  You haven't seen anything until you've seen a couple of shakey 80 year olds trying to figure out that remote control. The rep might as well schedule himself to their house every night for the news and a movie.
     

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    The FIOS remote (none / 0) (#15)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:28:38 AM EST
    is just about the same as every other digital cable or sat remote.

    As long as they can figure out the guide (if. . .), there shouldn't be a problem.

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    I'm only 43 (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:34:59 AM EST
    and Josh still has to help me with the remotes around here.  I'm not wired properly for it or something.

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    They have a big screen TV (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:40:42 AM EST
    because they can hardly see, and neither one has steady enough hands for those tiny buttons. The giant button remote I gave them a couple of years ago isn't compatible with this new system.

    They take it with humor, and wait patiently for rescue.

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    Guess what andgarden... (none / 0) (#35)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:52:33 AM EST
    I have Warner Cable also.  Digital cable and Roadrunner. Been having a lot of problems with the digital cable and when I call to complain, they talk to me like I'm 2 years old!!  After telling them I'll be a "good girl" and won't "bother" them anymore, MY ROADRUNNER BREAKS DOWN FOR A WHILE!  I wonder why??? Talk about furious.....

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    Don't Hold Your Breath (none / 0) (#22)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:54:10 AM EST
    I know. . . (none / 0) (#23)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:56:11 AM EST
    If You are Desperate (none / 0) (#44)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:59:22 PM EST
    And have cables service for your computer, you can get a splitter attach it to your main line. Then put one line to your computer and the other directly to your teevee.

    You should be able to get channels 1-13.

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    Lo and behold, the cable guy showed (none / 0) (#45)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:02:02 PM EST
    and fixed my problem.

    As it happens, I actually do have cable access rather like you described through my eyeTV Hybrid. It gets all of the clear QAM channels.

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    Alright!!! Good for you and have fun!! (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:21:29 PM EST
    I'm going to log off now.  Called Warner cable this morning to complain, so my Roadrunner should be going down right about now.....(fade black)


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    Gettin ready... (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by Steve M on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:08:40 AM EST
    Michigan State vs. USC at 5pm today... and baby coming very soon!  Guess it's up to the kid whether he wants to be born in time to watch the game :)

    Congrats!! (none / 0) (#6)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:15:39 AM EST
    And the child that is born on the Sabbath day
    Is bonny and blithe, and good and gay.

    Greeting a new baby...such a great way to spend a day :)

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    Outrage (5.00 / 4) (#9)
    by lentinel on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:19:17 AM EST
    In today's Times, Frank Rich wrote about Obama's ineffectiveness in solving the economic disaster confronting us. Rich compares Obama's approach to the economy to Bush's with respect to Katrina. He writes "...the president took responsibility for what's happening on his watch -- more than he needed to, given the disaster he inherited. But in the credit mess, action must match words. To fall short would be to deliver us into the catastrophic hands of a Republican opposition ..."

    Let the same be said for the wars in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. These are disasters that Obama inherited, but In my opinion he is making them his own.

    500,000 dollars a minute continues to flow down a bottomless pit for continuing the war in Iraq alone. And Obama has plans that are championed by both McCain and Lieberman for sending ever more of our beleaguered troops to Afghanistan.

    With respect to Iran, Obama put out a public televised message at once calling for better relations, and simultaneously continuing, in so many words, to call them the axis of evil accusing them of sponsoring terrorism and building a nuclear bomb. This is not the way that diplomacy is supposed to work.

    I am also saddened by the reported continuation of the brutality at Gitmo. The defense by Obama's administration of Bush's policy of detention of suspects without charge is shocking. The continued killing of civilians by the use of drones in Pakistan and the endless war in Iraq makes me feel that a McCain administration would have not been substantially different than Obama's on these fronts. The rosy glow of Obama's victory and the joy with which it was received in much of the world might soon fade.

    It is, at this juncture, impossible for me to determine what Obama's core beliefs are. If he continues on his current course, the public outrage we are seeing at this moment with respect to the economy is the mere tip of the iceberg.

    I do not think (none / 0) (#16)
    by Politalkix on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:32:21 AM EST
    that people who voted for Obama expected him to govern the way Kuchinich would do.

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    No (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:06:59 AM EST
    but all of us had hoped he would govern like an actual Democrat, at least half of an FDR.  

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    He is governing (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Politalkix on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:37:51 AM EST
    as an actual Democrat and exactly the way he said he would do during the campaign. He cannot undo all damaging policies that were implemented in the last 30 years within 2 months of taking the oath of office. Those who liked the Clinton Presidency (and also supported HRC's candidacy) do not really have a good reason to complain about Obama's policies unless their biases are getting in the way. As far as foreign policy is concerned this is the most progressive administration that I can think of in many decades. Obama's budget proposal is also the most liberal economic plan that the country has seen in many decades! The administration is also taking lots of progressive steps (the kind the country has never seen in decades) in the area of health care, immigration, environment (including decoupling science from politics), labour laws and other issues of concern to a majority of Democrats.

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    In the big game (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:26:37 PM EST
    the financial industry mess, Obama has simply continued the Paulson plan.  Every alleged variation floated so far is simply the same general idea.

    It appears to date that the Obama Administration is working to retain the status quo in the financial industry, leaving in place the corrupt, rotted structure that's brought down the economy.

    Although the problem was decades in the making the problem was known long before this administratiion took office.  When Roosevelt took office he wasted no time.  The day after the inauguration he called Congress into session, closed the banks and got the Emergency Banking act passed. Two months after Roosevelt took office came the first Glass-Steagall act that among other things established the FDIC.  Within a coulple mnore months the second Glass-Steagall act was passed that completed restructuring the financial system that served us well until the rush to undue success in the 80s, 90s and 00s.

    In sum, direction was clear in the first two days; the financial system would be significantly restructured.

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    Lot of restructuring (none / 0) (#70)
    by Politalkix on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 04:15:25 PM EST
    in the financial world is going on even as we post. It is really a mistake to think that Obama is retaining the status quo, I am seeing that the wheels are in motion for an evolution in the financial world.
    During Roosevelts time the world economy was not as intricately tied as it is now, neither was the size of the American economy so large or so sophisticated. In general, people also had a much lower standard of living, expectations were also lower. It was easier to start from scratch during Roosevelt's time (the depression was also in its 3rd year when Roosevelt started) when the unemployment rate was over 23%, over 40% of banks had failed and the volume of international trade had fallen to less than one-third compared to 1929 numbers.
     

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    We'll see what (none / 0) (#79)
    by cal1942 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:13:12 PM EST
    happens when the new regulatory regime is presented.  That will tell us a lot.

    But today's confirmation of yesterday's leaks certainly doesn't bode well.  The "new" administration's plan is simply maintaining the status quo and enriching those who put us in this mess. Privatizing gains and socializing losses. No wonder Wall St. celebrated today. We deserve better. A very, very poor move.  I've also yet to see that restructuring "as we speak."

    The recovery package was far too modest and will be far less effective because of the foolish tax cuts that were are significant component.

    The inadequacy of the recovery package and the ludicrous toxic assets program added together are very disheartening. I'd settle for half of an LBJ.

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    My point (none / 0) (#47)
    by lentinel on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    was not intended to be whetheror not Obama was living up to anyone's expectations.

    My point was simply to say that the way he, our current president, is governing in a manner than ranges from not very well to dangerous.

    My hope is that he will be confronted directly by the left on issues of war and peace.

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    Do you think he is (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:36:13 AM EST
    governing the way they did expect him to? I never could grasp what it was his staunch supporters were expecting from him.

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    FWIW (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:45:24 AM EST
    He's way exceeding my expectations, but my expectations were very, very, very low, so it's not that hard.  There's a lot he's doing I don't like at all, but there's way more that I do like than i ever expected to see.

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    There is no way to win (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by SOS on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:27:44 AM EST
    when the rules and the game itself changes almost daily. That's why I shall remain on the sidelines for the foreseeable future. Trying to rationally analyze and respond to an insane system gets you where? We now have no idea how to get out of this mess.

    What do you think would happen if (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:34:31 AM EST
    all the regular people moved their accounts away from the big guys and into local banks? Without the public having reason to be afraid of losing their money, the gov't would not have fear working in their favor.

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    I've been thinking about changing to a smaller (none / 0) (#39)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:22:14 PM EST
    local bank.  I don't have much to move but what effect would this have?  I certainly don't have an FDIC problem with my savings..Would it make a difference if we moved to smaller banks???

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    I've been with a smaller bank (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by Cream City on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:31:17 PM EST
    for years.  Now one of the larger ones in my state, but still small by Wall Street standards.:-)

    I may not be doing anything to hurt Wall Street, but I'm happier -- and so is my spouse, who finally moved his accounts from what had been a good local bank until it was bought by some corporation.  He found out why my once-little local bank has grown:  Great service.  None of those nonsensical new fees that suddenly get levied, and just try to get a human on the phone to fix it. . . .  Our banker -- yes, a human banker who sits down with us, helps us -- set up his accounts better, and also helped my daughter get out from under a car loan when interest went up without warning.  And much, much more.

    So the question is:  Are you getting good service to help you save money?  Are you getting a human when you call?  One who gives you a business card with a cell phone number as well as the bank number?  If not, why not?  We work hard for our money, and a smaller bank works harder for us.

    Plus, our local bank gives back to our community.  My city used to be a headquarters town with a lot of companies that did so, but not anymore.  So I support local business whenever I can, because it doesn't just take from us like AIG, Citi, etc.

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    Can't hurt.... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:36:28 PM EST
    if the big boys are too big to fail, the people have the power to make them small enough to go the way of the scrap heap and stop f*ckin' us in the keister.

    If you have money in Citi or BoA, or have a policy with AIG...you're part of the problem I'm afraid.


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    Thanks Cream and kdog... (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:13:37 PM EST
    Currently with a bank (National City) that did not get Fed funds and was taken over by a bank from Pittsburgh that did receive Fed funds.  On my way to our monthly family dinner and will spread the word.  Will talk up "service" and "community" and my family will spread out over this city and do the right thing with our banking.  By the way kdog, I believe that the only thing that should be too big to fail is the U.S. government.  Any US company so big and strong that it can bring down the entire financial and economic systems of the US should be "against the law"...Thanks again...

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    Guess (none / 0) (#52)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:33:40 PM EST
    what those funds were used for.

    We also bank with National City and weren't surprised when the notice came in the mail.

    There are no longer any locally owned banks in our community only regional banks.

    Terrible shame.

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    Terrible shame is right (none / 0) (#62)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:15:53 PM EST
    Do you know about the website that rates all banks?

    I think there's another one, too, but am in a hurry and no time to look for it.


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    Here is (none / 0) (#73)
    by CoralGables on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 05:08:41 PM EST
    your other site that Ranks all banks
    BANKS

    They also rate all
    CREDIT UNIONS

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    Thanks :) (none / 0) (#76)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 08:25:26 PM EST
    I think I first saw it in an earlier post of yours!

    Valuable information.

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    And thanks (none / 0) (#78)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:52:01 PM EST
    Thanks. (none / 0) (#77)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:51:02 PM EST
    Perhaps Credit Unions (none / 0) (#61)
    by CDN Ctzn on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:13:56 PM EST
    are the way to go here. Seems my parents as well as other's I know have had tremendous success and real customer service with them.

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    Just as with banks (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Cream City on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:47:11 PM EST
    there are credit unions, and then there are credit unions.  Many in my state got together to create a coop that just closed its doors last week with no warning, not to customers or employers or even the state.  It has been under investigation by the feds for a year now, its former president charged with fraud, etc. . . .

    I would trust the credit union at my employer, but because I have checked it out for my kids who use it.  I trusted my bank because I checked it out before I started with it a decade and a half ago -- when it wasn't as easy to check out so much info online as it is today.  And I continue to check out my bank (it's got a great rating) from the field's perspective as well as from my experience.

    Just sayin' -- just as with banks, check out a credit union first.  Most are fine, I bet, so find one of those.  (But also know the difference from FDIC-insured institutions . . . for what that may or may not be worth all too soon.)

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    Thanks Cream City.... (none / 0) (#69)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 03:48:59 PM EST
    My employer offers Towpath Credit Union here in Ohio and I do direct deposit every payday.  I use this account mainly for emergencies if I cannot get through the month, but Towpath is insured by ASI up to $250,000 per account but NOT FDIC insured.  I'll be getting it out tomorrow and at least make sure I'm in something that is FDIC insured! (I would loose my mind if I lost 1 penny of my money in a savings account)  Now I'm going to check my 401K, and try to figure out what to do with it.  Lost an awful lot since December, 2008.  Thanks Again..

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    ASI might be meaningful (none / 0) (#72)
    by Cream City on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 05:07:06 PM EST
    but I'm less familiar with it.  And who knows how solid our fed gummint will be with FDIC, the way it's handing out our candy to the AIGs, etc.?:-)

    I feel your pain, though -- my spouse, already past retirement age, lost a lot.  So he still will keep working for as long as he's got work . . . and so will I, although we hoped to both have more time together soon.  And we hope to hand over our jobs to the next generation, the age of my kids both out of work now.  It's hitting us at the beginning and end of careers, where it hurts.  We wanted to be able to help them get their lives going, with both heading for marriage soon, but now we just hope they don't have to help us down the line when they'll be raising above-average grandchildren for me to spoil . . . if I can.

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    Good point about the FDIC... (none / 0) (#74)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 06:22:29 PM EST
    But speaking about above-average grandchildren, I have two granddaughters 13 and 3.  There is no greater feeling than to spoil them and send them home to mom and dad.  The 13 year old wanted a cell phone for Christmas.  My son said no (concerned about the cost) but she promised to keep her grades up and not go over her minutes. My son "gave me permission" to get her one.  She's a straight A student, monitors her bill over the internet and never goes over her minutes or texts.  (ABOVE-AVERAGE!)

    Had a birthday party for my 3 year old and about 25 kids and 20 adults yesterday at our local "Chuck E Cheese".  She was the "Princess for the Day"!  I was exhausted, but when I looked into those big bright eyes, with those fat cheeks and "pizza" around her mouth, all I could do was hug her, kiss her, call her "granny's Birthday girl" and send her home with her mom. She was soooo hyped up and happy...(ABOVE AVERAGE!)

    So I agree with you Cream City, there is nothing like having above-average grandchildren to spoil.  I'm sure you will be a wonderful "granny", but when you are, please don't take my title of Granny #1 from me!!

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    Yes, if no local/community banks, that (none / 0) (#63)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:16:42 PM EST
    would be my first choice over a larger bank.

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    Another alternative (none / 0) (#67)
    by Cream City on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:52:27 PM EST
    I ought to have recalled: Veterans and their families have USAA, if that applies.  Vets in my family have been with it for years, and its services are extraordinary -- even online checking and savings now, easily done from anywhere in the world or right at home with a fax machine.  Also has great rates on car, home, life insurance, etc.

    Ordinarily, I'd buy local.  But a coop like this one by and for vets around the world is local everywhere, in a way, as it serves well for those in our communities and their families who served us.

    I have heard of other sorts of alternatives for those without good local banks -- by and for teachers, for example.  Far from Wall Street.

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    This is indeed time for popcorn (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:33:34 AM EST
    and I believe we are watching a thriller :)

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    Trouble is (none / 0) (#26)
    by cal1942 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:10:57 AM EST
    that watching could well turn from a thriller to a horror flick with all of us personally involved. As victims.

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    I have accepted that I am already a victim (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:36:21 AM EST
    here, for me it is now down to degrees of.

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    Victim.... (none / 0) (#64)
    by kdog on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:34:44 PM EST
    is the wrong word I think Tracy...more like the short end of the stick.  Not invited to the party.  The hustled, not the hustler.

    So you make due and make your own party...luckily happiness truly can't be bought or owned.

    Blessed are the meek...

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    Why are the talking heads (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by Jjc2008 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:48:29 AM EST
    so concerned about "breaking contracts?"  
    Suddenly that's bad????
    There were no qualms with government firing all the air traffic controllers .......taking away their salaries for life under Reagan.  Hell, they then named an airport after him????  Talking about rubbing some one's nose in crap....

    But now, taking away bonus money from already overly rich and pampered brats is somehow a threat to democracy?   HUH??

    Another thing, on TW they were all whining about how Wall Street, whose main and apparently only concern is for making big money for Wall Street itself, won't really trust the notion of making money for American citizens in general.  Yet, these right wingers spent 8 years decrying the lack of patriotism on the left from citizens against war.  

    In other words, what I am hearing is only rich American citizens matter...only gated communities matter...on the jobs and contracts of the upper class matter.  I knew this attitude always existed in the upper echelons but to hear the pundit class openly talking about this as if this is the understandable way to think.

    I believe unless the citizens really take to the streets, democracy is done.  I seriously do not believe this administration or any one gets it and I believe the pundit class will continue to push the status quo.

    Had to do the Heimlich on my 11 year old... (5.00 / 3) (#24)
    by magster on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:00:39 AM EST
    ...last night at the dinner table.  So easy, it doesn't seem at all like the big deal it actually was. Two upward thrusts and a coughed up piece of stake later (promptly eaten by the dog), and life returns to normal.

    If you don't know how to do the Heimlich, here's a youtube.

    The referenced Youtube (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:29:08 AM EST
    provides a very good demonstration--everyone should be prepared to give the Heimlich maneuver.  Within just the past couple of years, I have had the occasion to use it twice while dining out.  Both times with a very happy ending--the nearby diners just resumed their meal and enjoyed the rest of their evening. Unexpectedly, the maitre d'  at one place even offered to pick up my bill.

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    Wow! (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:48:38 AM EST
    Scary moment, no?  Frightening to think that pre-Heimlich, your kid might well have died, and instead, saving his life is just a minor blip in an evening at home.  Amazing.

    (And nothing like an opportunistic pup to put the whole thing in perspective, eh?)

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    Did a modified Heimlich (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Fabian on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:51:17 PM EST
    for my infant who coughed up a piece of cereal.  I was really mad at his older brother who was messing with him while he was trying to eat.

    It's pretty easy to tell if someone needs help, even if they only have a partial obstruction.  The Heimlich is a lot simpler to do than CPR and easy to tell if you've done it correctly.

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    Thanks for the youtube (none / 0) (#29)
    by GeorgiaE on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:33:04 AM EST
    I never really knew where to place my hands.  Thank you. Hope your son is OK and hope I never have to use it, but this is good info for me.  

    I really enjoy the Talk Left site..

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    Piece of Stake? (none / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:03:04 PM EST
    Did someone mistakenly think the kid was a vampire?

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    D'oh (none / 0) (#51)
    by magster on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:31:13 PM EST
    Sorry For the Gallows Humor (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:40:05 PM EST
    I am a terrible speller and depend on spellcheck to not look like an illiterate. Just thought it was a funny typo only because your boy is safe from harm.

    Good work. Scary how fragile and robust we are.

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    good joke, but no help from spell checker (none / 0) (#55)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:46:07 PM EST
    Problem here is that both stake and steak are spelled properly and wouldn't get the red dotted underline alert of the spell checker.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#56)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:49:33 PM EST
    Obviously that was how it slipped by. Magster, as far as I can remember does not make spelling mistakes.

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    No offense taken--thought it was funny (none / 0) (#58)
    by magster on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:57:25 PM EST
    As Ma would say in the Little House books everytime Pa or one of the girls almost killed themselves in a misadventure "All's well that ends well."

    And the steak chewing amateur was my daughter, from whom my TL handle derives.


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    Sweet (none / 0) (#59)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:01:20 PM EST
    I always wondered about your moniker. I thought you might have been a car lover, but it never quite fit. Makes perfect sense now.

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    Stay Tuned (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by squeaky on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 04:44:54 PM EST
    Over objections from the U.S. intelligence community, the White House is moving to declassify--and publicly release--three internal memos that will lay out, for the first time, details of the "enhanced" interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration for use against "high value" Qaeda detainees.

    [snip]

    Because of an executive order signed by President Obama on Jan. 22 banning such aggressive tactics, deputies to Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. concluded there was no longer any reason to keep the interrogation memos classified.

    Newsweek

    Some BushCo heads are going to explode as they should.

    White House photog (none / 0) (#3)
    by kenosharick on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 09:30:56 AM EST
    on fox "news" sunday showed a pic of President Obama moving furniture back into place in the Oval after the press gaggle left a photo op. I thought that was great- he saw something needed to be done, so he pitched right in.

    I'm way late on this but I missed your (none / 0) (#8)
    by tigercourse on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 10:19:11 AM EST
    BSG open thread. That was a good first hour followed by a pretty terrible second. "God did it" and "She was dead the whole time!" are two of my least favorite fiction tropes.

    I hoped you followed second hour through (none / 0) (#36)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 11:58:20 AM EST
    to the end

    Just when the goddidit thang was really getting thick, they snapped it back to revenge chaos and violence.

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    Really? I thought it ended with the Angels (none / 0) (#37)
    by tigercourse on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:12:25 PM EST
    (another annoying bit) walking through New York with the heavy handed "will they ever learn" moral tag.

    Possibly my biggest problem though was the idea that some 30,000 people would all be really happy giving up modern technology, tools and medicine to go try (and they failed) to eek out an existence all because Apollo read Thoreau once.  Basically they all committed mass suicide at the end.

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    I don't know (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Jen M on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 06:48:17 PM EST
    after technology kills almost all humanity, and you spend four years on a small metal tin can with no privacy, bad food, bad water, bad air (for most of them on the lesser ships) I can see how the thought of SUN, SKY, TREES, MEAT, FRESH FRUIT  etc etc might tempt people into just skipping off into the woods.

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    forgot that (none / 0) (#40)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:30:45 PM EST
    were they angels? or zombies?

    quit raining on my parade about the giving up of technology!..yes i wondered about that as well.

    just as i was about to get nauseous from the religious stuff, the five all put their hands in the soup, all hidden thoughts were revealed, and the Chief wnet off....that's the part I liked.

    oh well

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    Zombies would have been a big (none / 0) (#43)
    by tigercourse on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:48:38 PM EST
    improvement.

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    I think they were merely ghosts (none / 0) (#53)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 01:35:44 PM EST
    and smarmy ghost at that.

    Still, love me some Eddie Olmos.

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    My impression was that they were (none / 0) (#60)
    by tigercourse on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:11:13 PM EST
    supposed to be Angels of God sent to save humanity. They are the ones afterall who convinced Baltar to give his speech and Starbuck who seemed to be a corporeal angel was the one to enter the coordinates that brought them to earth.

    Anyway, I liked the show better when it seemed to be West Wing/World War II movie in space.

    Olmos, and most of the other actors, were really great in this show.

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    I liked his quote from the "making of" (none / 0) (#66)
    by DFLer on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 02:52:02 PM EST
    show "best fracking job I ever had"

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    America the cash cow (none / 0) (#38)
    by joze46 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 at 12:16:37 PM EST
    Doing a Google with the input to the search field with the following

    Reagan/Bush administration did not stop the S&L collapse.

    The spirit to go back and see how this new banking scam is relational to the one we had in the eighties. Alarming whats happening and what we don't hear on mainstream media is the same people, same problems, even more worse than before is happening, yet Obama seems to think much of what was done was legal? Not!

    From ezine

    Numerous commenters' have pointed out similarities between the Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and the recent collapse of the subprime mortgage market. Greed, corruption, fraud, and Wall Street money, and deregulation, political manipulations: all are blamed for both crises. But the real story is that of the government specifically setting up an industry to fail, and pumping that market full of cheap, easy money before the inevitable collapse.

    Here is the full article,

    http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Are-the-SandL-Crisis-and-the-Subprime-Collapse-Similar?&id=1746067

    But if you look at several Google entries there is overwhelming evidence Bush and Company should be prosecuted for war crimes and domestic fraud. Think Obama has the courage; his Attorney doesn't think so with that comment that America is a country of cowards, Obama being the first.

    It was interesting to watch Newt Gingrich in a presentation with James Carvel at some University class. Here, Newt was slamming the hell out Bush as failed. Limbaugh must be having fits...

    Bush was not failed so far Bush pirated trillions of tax dollars and got away with it. :)