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I'm just getting to the news today. Here's what I'm reading:

  • Matt Lauer hit a deer on his bicycle and flew over the handlebars, separating his shoulder. Ouch.
  • Question: Why is the news reporting the deer hit Lauer instead of the other way around, and is there a report that mentions what happened to the deer? I hit a deer driving my Jeep once just outside of Aspen at dusk. It darted across the road. Totally destroyed the front of my car, but the saddest thing was watching the deer limp away, I'm sure it broke a leg. I've always wondered what happened to it -- did it just die, did someone shoot it to put it out of its misery? Anyway, sending good thoughts Lauer's way, surgery for a dislocated shoulder isn't fun.

  • Stocks are up after Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's announcement of details of the latest financial plan.

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  • Finding love at 60. Blogger and Law Prof Ann Althouse is getting married -- to a man she met in the comments section of her blog. Congrats to Ann and Meade, but trading Madison for Cincinnati? Guess that's love.
  • Closing arguments begin today in Phil Spector's murder retrial. The jury will have another option this time around: Involuntary manslaughter, that carries a possible sentence of 2 to 4 years.

Your turn, what news are you following today?

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    Deer against bike (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by nycstray on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32:36 PM EST
    I think the deer may have faired ok. They're pretty sturdy. Unless of course it was a young one. Hopefully, it was a studly mature buck  :)

    I guess it's the deer's fault because it jumped into Lauer's path. Aside from the headline, it's hard to tell if he actually hit the deer. If he did, sounds like the impact may have been lessened (for the deer) by the brakes.

    It appears that the deer jumped into the path of Lauer, 51, who hit the brakes to avoid hitting it and who was thrown from the bike, hurting his shoulder, NBC reported.



    This guy swerved to avoid a deer, too (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:12:22 PM EST
    What a mess. (check out images #7 and #8 in the slideshow)

    He wound up putting a tractor-trailer full of hydrofluoric acid on its side and making everyone within miles evacuate or detour.  And barely any was spilled.  From another local news report:

    State police at Belfast said the 2:40 a.m. accident occurred when the truck driver, Raymond Leblanc, 54, of Ontario, Canada, swerved on southbound Route 33 to avoid a deer.

    The tanker tipped on its side and slid several hundred yards, police said. First responders made sure to stay uphill and upwind of the truck, said Joe Hart, Plainfield Township assistant fire chief.

    The truck's tank, holding 33,000 pounds of undiluted hydrofluoric acid -- which causes skin and respiratory irritation at low levels of exposure and is fatal at high levels -- remained intact, said Mark R. Carmon, a spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Protection.

    A small amount of acid held in a truck safety device -- a vapor recovery line -- leaked onto the roadway, officials said. The recovery line traps any chemical released as it is being transferred to the tanker or into a customer's storage tank.

    Carmon described the release as a ''slow drip.''

    A spokesman for Honeywell International, owner of the truck and manufacturer of the hydrofluoric acid, said ''less than a quart'' of the acid leaked. The chemical was made in Honeywell's plant in Amherstburg, Ontario, and was being transported to a customer who would use it to refine high-octane gasoline, said Honeywell spokesman Peter F. Dalpe. He declined to say where the chemical was being taken. State police said the truck was headed to Philadelphia.



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    hydrofluoric acid (none / 0) (#52)
    by Fabian on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:25:30 PM EST
    is no joke!

    If you remember your table of elements, F(fluorine) is the first of the series (F, Cl, Br, I) making it even more reactive than hydrochloric acid.

    Good thing that tanker was mostly intact.  I don't know why the driver swerved to avoid the deer, when a heavy truck hits a deer, usually all you see is half a deer and long smear on the pavement.  Sometimes just a smear.

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    It's a reflex (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Bemused on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:55:19 PM EST
     to swerve when something suddenly darts in front of you. Probably one trick drivers should learn to suppress, but it's understandable. People in cars swerve for cats,  dogs and rodents all the time and the relative size differences are similar as with a semi and deer.

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    I understand the reflex (none / 0) (#68)
    by Fabian on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:21:36 PM EST
    but one of the professional drivers at dkos who posts says truck drivers shouldn't swerve because it's much better to hit the deer and take a little damage than to wreck the truck.

    Ohio DOT advice is the same - drive, don't swerve.

    I've had the car down to a walking pace a couple times when I've seen deer along the road (not a highway).  Never hit one or had a close call, thank goodness.

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    NASCAR drivers, (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:25:42 PM EST
    even at the super speedways, try not to swerve. Too easy to lose control. Also, if a skidding car is in front of you, it might skid out of the way.

    As far as deer go, we have plenty of small deer here in Alabama, and there's usually a lot of dented cars.

    Worse, though, believe it or not, a wild turkey. They can go through the windshield.

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    deer, turkeys . . . (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by pukemoana on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:49:06 PM EST
    try a moose--spindly legs and a ginormous body at windscreen height.  Last spring I went to Algonquin Park just as the main camping season opened--saw a moose being towed off one way and a completely totaled car towed off the other way. Luckily the driver and passengers made it out.

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    If it was a professional driver, that is (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:34:08 PM EST
    as the problem for many of us, especially near Illinois, is that there are many truckdrivers out there who are licensed but lack the training for it.  One of those truckdrivers killed a family of six children here.

    That's one reason why one of Illinois' former govs is in jail.  

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    Actually, (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by eric on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:26:27 PM EST
    it goes the other way.  Hydrofluoric acid is a weak acid as compared with hydrochloric acid.  Hydrobromic acid is stronger than that, and hydroiodic acid stronger than hydrobromic.

    With that being said, it is still extremely dangerous.

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    Unless the deer (none / 0) (#54)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:31:42 PM EST
    bounces up and into the windshield.

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    And is a guy doe with antlers (none / 0) (#58)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:38:14 PM EST
    that can come through the windshield.  Happened here -- and it was quite a rack, and an antler pierced the windpipe of the driver, almost instantly deceased.  Horrible.

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    Ahhhh! (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:50:42 PM EST
    Geez, what a way to die.  Awful.

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    Trucks are much higher (none / 0) (#61)
    by Fabian on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:45:02 PM EST
    than mere cars, unless the animal was one of Santa's flying reindeer?

    When we drive to Cleveland for Thanksgiving, I tally the dead deer along the highway.  

    My best dead deer story: Riding on the bike path one morning along the river, another cyclist shouted something as they passed in the other direction.  ???  When I came around the next curve, I realized what they were trying to do - warn me about the dead white tail deer lying across the path.  A chain link fence ran close the path at that point and my best guess is that the deer ran headfirst into it and broke its neck.  

    Didn't have my dog at that point, or I would have asked if I could have it for dog food.  

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    Never saw a deer fly? (none / 0) (#73)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:35:16 PM EST
    Uh, I mean deerfly?  Nasties.

    Seriously, I've seen deer be hit and fly farther and higher than you can imagine, if the vehicle is going fast.  As trucks tend to do.

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    Yeh. But they all jump into the paths (none / 0) (#10)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:36:18 PM EST
    of cars, actually -- into the paths and roads where we have right of way, unless deer qualify as pedestrians.  Or unless Lauer was like the awful snowmobilers recently who are being prosecuted for going off their paths to hunt down deer.

    Otherwise, they are not so much deer caught in headlights as they are vehicles without headlights and thus the transgressors, huh?  

    Seriously, the way that the laws are interpreted in such altercations can be a hoot; see my comment below.

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    A deer hit my little car (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:32:43 PM EST
    once, and I stand by that story.  It outweighed me and my car -- as one certainly would outweigh Lauer and a bike.  

    But more to the point of why I stand by that story is because when the state patrol pulled up to me and my passengers standing by the roadside, it was to tell me that I had to pay a hefty fine.  Why?  For "hunting without a license."  I'm not kidding -- that's how the state covers the costs of clearing roadkill.  

    I was so broke already plus facing how to find and pay for a new car that the patrol cop took pity and told me the alternative:  Keep standing by the roadside to see if someone pulled up to ask for the corpus, as it were.  Sure enough, it didn't take long for a venison-lover to offer to take the makings of steaks and sausage stuffing.  Ugh.  But I was off the hook for the fine (and that's why it was clear to me that it was the state's way of covering roadkill cleanup costs).

    So maybe this framing was upon the advice of Lauer's lawyer.:-)

    It's a boy! (5.00 / 10) (#11)
    by Steve M on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:48:11 PM EST
    This is definitely the big news of the day.  Little guy came along like 9:30 this morning, very smooth labor.  In fact I'm cuddling the perfect little man with my right arm as I write this post with my left :)

    Congratulations (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CoralGables on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:53:43 PM EST
    Now just add a little orange to that blue blanket and he'll be ready for tomorrow night's Gator game.

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    and the Auburn game, too, (none / 0) (#32)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:17:28 PM EST
    proived the orange and blue are correct ;-)

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    YAY! (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:56:50 PM EST
    Mommy and baby doing all right?

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    I hope that you don't read this (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:57:54 PM EST
    'til later -- that you have put away the computer to cuddle the cutie with both arms.  Well, both cuties.  But when you're back:  To all of you, congratulations!  A wonderful time of year, too, to enjoy getting out with the li'l guy -- but without all the cold-weather swaddling -- in great weather ahead as the world around you is born again, as it were.  Hoping you didn't name him Robin, though.:-)

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    Congrats!!! (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by lilburro on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:00:12 PM EST
    Mazzeltov! (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:08:46 PM EST
    Congratulations to all of you! (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Anne on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:12:14 PM EST
    What a special time, finally getting to know the little guy after all these months.

    Hope everyone is doing well, and that your duaghter makes the transition from only-child status easily and happily.

    Enjoy the bliss - there's nothing like it!

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    Congratulations! (5.00 / 4) (#23)
    by bocajeff on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:19:12 PM EST
    Just had my third, finally a girl. Nothing better than bringing a healthy baby into a loving home.

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    Most Definitely Today's BIG NEWS STORY (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by MO Blue on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:50:54 PM EST
    Congratulations to you and Mrs. M.

    Give the little guy a cuddle for me as well.

    P.S. get plenty of sleep tonight while you can.

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    Yeah, hello beautiful! (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:57:27 PM EST
    I'm glad things were smooth (if there is such a thing where delivery is concerned) for your mom.

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    shouldn"t we hear from (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by oculus on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:11:54 PM EST
    Steve's wife about the degree of difficulty re labor?

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    My assumption (none / 0) (#51)
    by CoralGables on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:23:00 PM EST
    is that will be an entirely different evaluation. Mothers and Fathers tend to see this quite differently...lol

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    Absolutely! n/t (none / 0) (#55)
    by Fabian on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:32:23 PM EST
    Great news, Steve (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by caseyOR on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:20:05 PM EST
    Congratulations to you and your wife.

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    Such great news!! (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:37:06 PM EST
    My son came after my daughter and promptly showed me know much I hadn't learned about parenting from his sister. Boys are entirely different.

    My 14 mo. old grandson is with me today...I've just learned that it is not only possible, it's quite logical that one would dance the salsa to the tune of Old MacDonald Had a Farm.

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    congrats! (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by pukemoana on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:39:41 PM EST
    such a miraculous time when another little being appears in your life.  I give you 2 years before he's grabbing the mouse out of your hand so he can kick you off talk left to play games on yo gabba gabba (or whatever the equivalent is then)

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    Congrats, Steve (none / 0) (#18)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Give him a cuddle for me too!

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    Good job brother.... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:26:44 PM EST
    Social Security just got a little more solvent!

    Congratulations to you and yours my man...

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    Congrats! (none / 0) (#53)
    by Fabian on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:26:47 PM EST
    You get the next nine months - right?  ;-)

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    YAY (none / 0) (#71)
    by andgarden on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:30:38 PM EST
    Congratulations (none / 0) (#80)
    by cal1942 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 06:52:52 PM EST
    AND the Spartan men and women moved to the next round of their respective NCAA Tournaments.

    The baby is the big thing but the others certainly don't hurt.

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    As someone who managed to (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Anne on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:21:14 PM EST
    dislocate and fracture both shoulders, one in 2000 and the other in 2005, I can attest to the not-fun nature of the whole thing.

    Both of my incidents were so stupid it's embarrassing.  First shoulder, I slipped on cat barf on the basement step and grabbed for the railing to keep from falling down the stairs or hitting my head.  Second one, I stepped off the curb in a parking lot at night, right into a storm drain I couldn't/didn't see, lost my footing and went down hard.

    The good news is that I had a great surgeon, and excellent PT, and five years and four years later, respectively, I have no problems - no pain, no range-of-motion issues; were it not for the little arthroscopic surgery scars on both shoulders, I would forget it had ever happened.

    It was worth forgetting, so I am glad I have no lingering effects!

    You should write comedy (none / 0) (#83)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 09:44:10 PM EST
    I'm still chucklking from your description. Needed the comic relief from the man-made disasters we are facing.  Thanks!

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    bad day for bike riding (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Lil on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:40:04 PM EST
    and it's like 30 degrees around here. Where's the Spring? Congrats on the new babies.

    looking @ the (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by oculus on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:14:48 PM EST
    Beautiful Mahattan skyline and thinking:  wonder if Steve m is a new dad yet. Congratulations

    Fat Cats (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:21:19 PM EST
    After stuffing their pockets with $25 billion from the US Gov bailout, JP Morgan Chase has announced that it going to buy two of the most expensive luxury corporate jets on the market. That is at a cost of $120 million.

    Pop the champaign corks and spread the caviar, they are having a party at our expense.

    Raw Story

    We should all get at least... (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:34:04 PM EST
    one free round-trip out of the deal.

    It's more ours than theirs.

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    OK (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:37:16 PM EST
    But I would rather take a credit on my account. $1,200 would be fair, imo.

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    Put it that way.... (none / 0) (#59)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:40:25 PM EST
    I want a refund of my whole nut from 2008, a little over 4 large...and deductions towards 2009 to cease immediately:)

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    Now Now (none / 0) (#60)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:44:00 PM EST
    Don't be greedy. There is a war on, you know. The spit from laughing so hard is sure to trickle down on our heads.

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    Which war? (none / 0) (#65)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:51:22 PM EST
    I'm technically "the enemy" in a few of those brother....all the more reason to get my money back from this rip-off:)

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    After they repay (none / 0) (#62)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:49:01 PM EST
    the loans from the U.S. government.  This is a false flap, apparently.


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    Yeah, Jamie Dimon Agrees (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:04:51 PM EST
    Citigroup abandoned plans for a new $50 million corporate jet from France. And in February, Obama said the days of bank executives flying corporate jets "were over."

    But on March 11, the chairman of JPMorgan Chase, Jamie Dimon, said he could not understand why corporate America has such a bad image.

    "When I hear the constant vilification of corporate America I personally don't understand it," Dimon said.

    Dimon, whose 2008 compensation package, according to SEC documents, was worth more than $19 million in salary, stock and options, declined to speak with ABC News about the proposed plans.

    ABC

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    I would take it with a grain of salt.... (none / 0) (#63)
    by coast on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:49:26 PM EST
    at least they bought American so it is supporting jobs here.  Certainly not the best PR move, but again we need to be supporting and/or creating  jobs here and these purchases do.

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    Ann Althouse is 60? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Joelarama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:20:54 PM EST
    Wow, she seems so much younger.  Disagree with her usually, but it's nice to see people happy together.

    Age is just a state of mind (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:27:44 PM EST
    Consider, Susan Sarandon, Goldie Hawn, Dianne Keaton, Debbie Harry, Hillary Clinton, to name a few.

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    Isn't 60 the new 40? (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by nycstray on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:33:57 PM EST
    I'm turning 40 in several months. Perhaps that (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Joelarama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:35:41 PM EST
    means I'm 20.

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    I just did (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:48:20 PM EST
    Glad to know that I can have a do-over of my 20s!

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    Geez, I feel like the upcoming 49 (none / 0) (#33)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:18:28 PM EST
    is the new 75... just a tough year so far.

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    heh (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by CST on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:34:00 PM EST
    I feel ya

    25 feels like 50 this year...

    Although based on this thread, I'm really only 10!

    I can't decide which is worse...  I wish 25 was what 25 is cracked up to be.

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    what's that line from Olympia Dukakis in (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:36:12 PM EST
    Moonstruck?

    "No matter what you do Cosimo, you're still going to die."

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    You're gonna have great 50s (none / 0) (#35)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:20:52 PM EST
    that will feel like your 30s -- since it sure seems that you're due after your 40s, from what we've read here, Jeff.  You've had more than one bad year, with going through Katrina, too.  Yikes, I bet you could write a book.  Or a soap opera!

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    Maybe when the depression (none / 0) (#36)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:25:53 PM EST
    or the 'black dog' truly lifts... could be a way toward catharsis.

    On a happy note, I still have my son's dog. We adopted him when he was a teeny pup, not even 8 pounds. Supposed to be a boston terrier mix.

    He's now 35 lbs, and looks like a pit bull. But he likes other animals and loves children.

    Heh, he's afraid f some cats, because he grew up with them as friends, but then has been attacked and scratched.

    He's like Ferdinand the bull, except he does bark at strangers, and even people he knows, until they say his name.

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    wonder if he's a staffy or staffy mix? (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by nycstray on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:11:28 PM EST
    I have to watch that a couple of my cats don't attack my dog. Dog likes cats and I want to keep it that way :) Plus, she shouldn't have to live in fear of them. One of the kitties can be downright scary when she choses!

    Now that the weather is starting to 'spring" up, make sure you get out on some nice relaxing walks with the pup. Walking is good for the mood as is sunshine. You need to remember to take care of yourself :)

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    Meryl Streep, later this year, too. (none / 0) (#22)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:13:21 PM EST
    Any news on the trial of (none / 0) (#2)
    by ding7777 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:26:38 PM EST
    Brooke Astor's only child, 84-year-old Anthony Marshall.  It was supposed to start today.

    I did a Google search on former AIG lobbyists, (none / 0) (#4)
    by Joelarama on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:29:36 PM EST
    and they seem to be doing well -- one has his own extremely successful shop that promises access to Blue Dogs.

    Seems even the stench of AIG still equals success in Washington lobbies.

    Lance Armstrong falls too (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:34:39 PM EST
    in the hospital and broke his collarbone

    Should have had flat foot technology :) (none / 0) (#13)
    by CoralGables on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 12:52:01 PM EST
     

    Matt Lauer hit a deer on his bicycle and flew over the handlebars, separating his shoulder.

    If he had been riding J's Electra Townie with "flat foot technology," the likelihood of going over the handlebars would be much less due to the set back riding style keeping the center of gravity further from the handlebars. Those lean over the front bikes like my 25 year old 18 speed Panasonic are wonderful for everything but the lower back and deer strikes.

    Well we DVRed "You're Welcome America" (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:36:29 PM EST
    We watch it before bed while sitting in bed cuz it cracks Joshua up something terrible.  Netflix just sent "Dubya", we haven't watched it yet.

    saw that (none / 0) (#28)
    by CST on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:40:10 PM EST
    or at least most of it.

    It was cathartic.

    I had just said to my co-watcher "what about Condi?"... and there she was

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    The Condi portion is so damn funny (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 01:55:29 PM EST
    but it is very suggestive, Joshua covers his eyes, says they are making his eyes burn, and then usually he uncovers them just in time for them to wag their tongues at each in the air :)

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    Fox (none / 0) (#37)
    by pukemoana on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:33:18 PM EST
    is making an *ss of itself again, running down the Canadian army:
    Mr. Gutfeld said in the Fox News segment, widely aired on the Internet, that the Canadian military "wants to take a breather to do some yoga, paint landscapes, run on the beach in gorgeous white capri pants."

    "Isn't this the perfect time to invade this ridiculous country?" he said. "They have no army."

    Timing wasn't great--four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan the same day.  Here's the youtube of Fox commentators having 'fun' at the expense of Canadians.  Somehow I don't think this is going to win Canadian support for extending the withdrawal date of Canadian troops from Afghanistan.

    PS apparently the Fox guy has now apologized

    Were you watching? (none / 0) (#42)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:39:51 PM EST
    the apology? (none / 0) (#43)
    by pukemoana on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 02:57:51 PM EST
    no.  Saw it reported in the Globe and Mail as an update to the original article saying Peter MacKay (Defence Minister) wanted an apology.  Watching the arrival of casket after casket of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan (116 so far)?  yes.

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    Done in very poor taste, for sure (none / 0) (#47)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:16:11 PM EST
    That's a panel that doesn't project themselves with an ounce of credibility. Monica Crowley was the only one I recognized, and my guess is FOX will be apologizing for this program regularly.

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    Well, (none / 0) (#50)
    by bocajeff on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:22:40 PM EST
    Red Eye is supposed to be an irreverent, almost funny show about current events. Can't and shouldn't take it seriously. After all, they pretty much rip everyone apart (including the U.S.).

    Stupid attempts at jokes and not nearly as funny as: 1) Obama and the Special Olympics, 2) Hillary and "Mahatma Gandhi" at the Gas Station or 3) Joe Biden and Indians selling slurpees.

    Remember the Seinfeld episode where Jerry is upset at his new Jewish friend making Jewish jokes and he was asked if it offended him as a Jew? And Jerry says, "No, it offends me as a comedian".

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    oh believe me, I don't take Fox seriously (none / 0) (#74)
    by pukemoana on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 04:44:37 PM EST
    that's why I said they were making an *ss of themselves again.  otoh, the clip's getting a lot of play in Canada and must only confirm the 65% of Canadians who say they'd reject any request by Obama to keep Canadian troops in Afghanistan (only 20% said they'd support his request).  

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    Kathryn Jean Lopez Opines Again (none / 0) (#49)
    by Addison on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 03:22:05 PM EST
    Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote the following in her most recent blog entry:

    According to an article in the Boston Globe, an informal poll taken among 200 teenagers has revealed that almost half of them blame the pop star Rihanna for her recent beating, allegedly by her boyfriend, Chris Brown.

    It's just one survey. But it's very bad news. And feminists are to blame.

    Say what? Later she feels the bizarre urge to note:

    This article isn't about closeted homosexuality.

    Self-parody finds its culmination in K-Lo daily.

    Federal Reserve (none / 0) (#76)
    by joze46 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 05:48:57 PM EST
    Well I have to concede that Fox news did have something good on today out of all those Smucks Glenn Beck wins my award for a little goodness gracious.

    Ron Paul said he introduced a bill HR1207 to eliminate the Federal Reserve. More over to be able to audit the Federal Reserve Board. Sheesh I did not know that the Federal Reserve could not be audited. Shows you what a rookie I am. So I have the opportunity to view the Thomas Files before it times out on me.

    Here is a paragraph that was interesting according to Ron Paul.

    "Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy."

    Ladies and Gentlemen of America we the people do not have the right to audit the operations of the Federal Reserve? For heavens sakes that's nuts.

    We wonder why we have a zombie economy.

    Sheesh we are ruled by economic thugs...Sorry President Obama but this has to change real fast. For heavens sake people if anyone out there has some congressional pull this audit stuff at minimum has to be done but getting rid of this master piece of the Jekyll Island group that constantly rips off the middle class would definitely be a monumental change in history.

    Please Mr. President if you want to really turn a page in history and create the largest perpetual bull free market in history, as was once said to Reagan about the Berlin wall.

    President Obama please tear down this department in our government.  

    Thank you Ron Paul.... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 06:22:43 PM EST
    for making some noise on the subject...that is nuts. You too joze...Thanks.

    I wonder if Congress would get a bunch of reports wth black permanent marker on it like we do when we file FOIA requests...if they were allowed to look at the books that is.

    The more you learn about this place the more you scratch your head.

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    I was of the understanding that the Federal (none / 0) (#79)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 06:39:56 PM EST
    Reserve is more private than gov't. I've never investigated beyond what I learned from what I believed to be a legitimate source.

    Someone reading and commenting probably has some pretty solid knowledge on it.


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    Andrew Jackson (none / 0) (#81)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 06:53:00 PM EST
    would be with you.

    Love your last line, very clever.

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    As I understand it, Woodrow Wilson was (none / 0) (#82)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 08:58:27 PM EST
    the president who put the Federal Reserve in place, and when leaving the office said it was the worst thing he could have possibly done to the country. If that's true, I'd say he would be right there with Andrew.

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    So, are we all so confident that (none / 0) (#84)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 09:52:37 PM EST
    Congress would do a better job? Perhaps a bit more transparent...

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    Yes, it has been Dems (none / 0) (#85)
    by Cream City on Tue Mar 24, 2009 at 09:54:28 AM EST
    doing and undoing themselves repeatedly, it seems.  Jackson killed the central banking system, Wilson revived it -- although saying at the time that he signed it into law that he did so "unwittingly."  Huh?

    I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

    So the difference is that Repubs plan to ruin our country, but Dems do it unwittingly?  Not reassuring.

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    Btw, there is debate about the quote (none / 0) (#86)
    by Cream City on Tue Mar 24, 2009 at 09:59:38 AM EST
    as to whether Wilson said all of it -- the first line, especially.  But most of it appears to be well-sourced, and some of his best biographers stand by him holding that sentiment and stating it in various ways in various venues.

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    About those rallying bank stocks (none / 0) (#78)
    by cal1942 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 06:35:42 PM EST
    from ABC comes this little story that should warm the cockles of everyone's heart.

    Of course it's "only" 180 million so the populist outrage of us little folk should really be ignored; after all we just aren't capable of understanding these things.

    But, given today's robust communications technology, I really have to wonder why in hell these people feel they need their own air force.