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    McConnell sputters (5.00 / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:15:12 PM EST
    that Specter's switch is "not a national story."

    heh.

    man (none / 0) (#3)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:17:46 PM EST
    the "club for growth" guys better be careful where they park their cars.  I see slashed tires.

    Another Triumph for the Club for Growth

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    Not unless Mitch McConnell does it himself (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:22:21 PM EST
    The CfG IS the Republican base.

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    I just dont see much love (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:23:21 PM EST
    for the CFGers today around right blogistan.

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    I had to look that up (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:44:07 PM EST
    Because I thought the CFG was about E.D. and Bob Dole was its founding member.

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    heh (none / 0) (#26)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:54:16 PM EST
    I suspect the CFG is experiencing a little ED today.

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    that's especially funny considering (none / 0) (#12)
    by CST on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:42:00 PM EST
    this

    he's right - it's an "international" story.

    P.S. in case the image has changed by the time you click this - that's arlen specter's face on the cover of the bbc.

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    McConnell's eyes (none / 0) (#18)
    by WS on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:08:14 PM EST
    His eyes looked shell shocked during his press conference.  I would feel bad for him but I don't.  

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    I think (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:23:50 PM EST
    thats just the way he looks.

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    The story, and Specter, are getting (none / 0) (#50)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 07:14:30 PM EST
    sillier by the minute.  Unearthed now are Specter's comments about Jeffords' dropping out of the GOP.

    Specter blasted him, so now his own words are coming back to bite him.  To my enjoyment.  

    Specter could have done a Jeffords and dropped out, not switched, which may just cost him his seat if he ends up looking the fool, anyway.  Also to my enjoyment.

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    Some good news (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by lilburro on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:25:10 PM EST
    via Daphne Eviatar - the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit today reinstated the case of Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan.

    This is the case in which the judges were described as "startled" that Obama's DoJ made the same arguments as Bush's.

    Beautifully reasoned opinion (none / 0) (#15)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:47:17 PM EST
    Just posted on it.

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    And miss American Idol? (5.00 / 0) (#13)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:44:28 PM EST
    No way!

    Looks like Chris Matthews (5.00 / 0) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:56:13 PM EST
    made the right decision to stick with his $5 million a year gig at MSNBC.  

    don't understand the context (none / 0) (#43)
    by DFLer on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:36:46 PM EST
    please elucidate

    ta

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    Matthews floated trial balloon (none / 0) (#54)
    by oculus on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 12:36:42 PM EST
    he might file for Specter's Senate seat.

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    ah yes.....get it now...thanks (none / 0) (#56)
    by DFLer on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 03:31:36 PM EST
    Haven't been here in a loooooong time (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by stefystef on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:22:21 PM EST
    I was just purging my favorites folder and I saw TalkLeft in my "Politics" folder.

    I use to post on here all the time during the election.  After Obama and the Magical Mystery Tour won, I stopped going to all political sites because I couldn't stomach the coronation of Obama in the same way I couldn't stomach the coronation of Bush.

    I didn't watch the inauguration or really follow anything Obama has done over the last 100 days.  I still think Hillary was the better choice and will never feel connected to the Obama cabal.

    But I'm glad to see this site is still up and running.  The people who run it are fantastic and I really admire their dedication to democracy and giving people a place to discuss liberal and progressive ideas in this country.

    I don't see myself posting with the same passion as I did before, but I will keep the site in my bookmark and check every once in a while.    Keep up the great work in TalkLeft.

    "Still up and running?!" (5.00 / 0) (#41)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:09:55 PM EST
    TL was here looooooong before the boy king and will be here long after, I'm sure.

    Although your comment does bring up the issue of what the "TL, the politics of crime" brand actually means...

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    Just a small brand change (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by caseyOR on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:31:34 PM EST
    "TL, the politics of crime and the crime of politics."

    See how neatly it all comes together? Crime and politics; politics and crime. It all seems very connected.

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    Hahahahahahaha, all one in the same (none / 0) (#57)
    by stefystef on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 04:05:47 PM EST
    Crime and politics... what?  There's a difference? LOL

    Glad to see the posters here are still witty and smart. s

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    Signs G.O.P. (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:14:49 PM EST
    Is Rethinking Stance on Gay Marriage

    does the term "lost in the wilderness" seem relevant to anyone else?

    Lucking Fakers (none / 0) (#4)
    by Dadler on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:19:09 PM EST
    My Forum Blue & Gold moves on, but once again shows a disturbing inability to close teams out when they have a big lead, and at home no less. Good thing Portland is going down to Houston.  We can't beat Portland on their floor the last few years to save our "home court throughout the playoffs" lives.

    Probably gonna be L.A. and Cleveland, as the NBA is praying it is. King James vs. Kobe in the finals will net them the highest finals ratings in decades.

    I think it'll be the Celtics tonight, by ten or fifteen.  Then back to Chicago for a coin toss game 6, like game 4.

    Peace,
    Jimmy the Geek

    Sounds like Ben Gordon (none / 0) (#27)
    by JThomas on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:00:10 PM EST
    is very questionable tonite which puts my Bullies in a huge hole. They are 7.5 pt underdogs before the Gordon injury.
    It is really too bad as this has been a very exciting series but without Gordon, I see a Celtics routine win tonite on their home court.
    If the Bulls get hot,maybe they keep it close and push it to seven after Thursday in Chicago. This series should go seven ..poetic justice.

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    I remember ALL those series (none / 0) (#45)
    by Dadler on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:40:09 PM EST
    It was either Utah with giant Mark Eaton giving Kareem fits, or it was Dallas with immovable James Donaldson giving Kareem fits.  So I'm quite a real fan, who actually knows something about the game, too.  I remember the May Day Massacre in Boston in the 1985 Finals when my Lakes lost to the Celts 148-114 in Game 1 and still came back to win the title.  Brother, my problem is with THIS specific team NOT being able to put teams away when they have 20 point leads at home.  And being soft in the middle when it counts.  Concerns.  I can both enjoy the game itself and enjoy the strategic and player personnel aspects as well, and fret over all of them.

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    And pardon me, sir... (none / 0) (#46)
    by Dadler on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:42:09 PM EST
    ...but taking advice about savoring anything from a guy who calls HAWAII home, please, I am deeply offended.

    Snark.

    Peace.

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    Some teams, including those (none / 0) (#48)
    by brodie on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 06:54:39 PM EST
    who end up winning championships, are ones which can't stay interested in the game unless they're being threatened.  Could be this Lakers team is one of those.  That or their second unit's defense needs some more work.  

    As for the soft in the middle, Andrew Bynum needs the next two series to get back into shape (another reason the Lakers may not be inclined to want to quickly sweep teams?).

    Probably gonna be L.A. and Cleveland, as the NBA is praying it is. King James vs. Kobe in the finals will net them the highest finals ratings in decades.

    Barring major injury to major players on either team (and the Cavs have only one major, who happens to be a beast), this will be your Finals.  

    Lakers should take it 4 games to 2.  With or without Bynum.

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    Gotta register an objection on (none / 0) (#49)
    by brodie on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 07:02:24 PM EST
    this one

    The following 1988-89 season, they cruised into the NBA Finals, having dispatched all three of their Western Conference opponents handily in series sweeps, only to be swept away themselves in rather lopsided fashion in their subsequent rematch with the Pistons.

    Just before that Finals started, the Lakers lost their star shooting guard, Byron Scott.  Then, before G2, their superstar point guard Magic Johnson suffered a major leg injury and was done.  That left them with James Worthy and a very aging Kareem and some 2d-rate scrubs, against the thuggish Pistons.

    Later, after the dust had settled, some grumbling was heard from the Lakers lockerroom that coach Pat Riley had overworked his players in practice prior to the Finals.  Whatever, it sure was curious how his best player and maybe the 3d best player on the team both went down with injuries at the outset of the series.  Absent the stupid boot camp before meeting Détroit, no question but that the Lakers go for the 3-peat.


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    I don't think I can take (none / 0) (#5)
    by CST on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:21:17 PM EST
    another close game.

    I might have a heart-attack.

    58 point Denver Nugget victory (none / 0) (#7)
    by magster on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:22:21 PM EST
    58 in a playoff game!

    58 pts (none / 0) (#10)
    by bocajeff on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:27:09 PM EST
    Their margin of victory was only 13 points less than the Heat scored in their disappointing loss.

    Go Lakers, then Heat, then Magic, then anyone but Celts.

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    Hmm. I'll have to take a closer (none / 0) (#51)
    by brodie on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 07:17:12 PM EST
    look at les Nougets, I mean beyond the 5 minutes that I've seen them on the teevee machine this playoffs.

    Your Cinderella theory is interesting but I see it differently.

    The Cavs are due this year, for sure, and I don't see them being stopped in the East.  LeBron James is an unstoppable force.*

    But Cinderella championship stories usually are to be found in the college ranks of competition, not the pros.  Or at least not very often in the NBA.  Cinderella makes it improbably past an overdog opponent in one of the early rounds, but they rarely make it all the way to the Finals.  A third consecutive 7G series usually exposes the fatal weakness in the upstart team, be it of inadequate talent or inexperience, or the luck simply runs out by the 3d round.

    *(some interesting types out there in internetland say LeBron's your best candidate for being the actual reincarnation of game-inventor James Naismith ... and, well, there is at least one obvious point of resemblance ...  kinda spooky actually ... )  

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    Susan Boyle has been kissed. (none / 0) (#11)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:37:04 PM EST
    Video here.

    See Christopher Buckley's riff (5.00 / 0) (#53)
    by oculus on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 12:35:38 PM EST
    in Financial Times on Obama first 100 days,  Buckley opines the reason Susan Boyle took the TV-watching world by storm is that viewers were quite thrilled to someone other than Obama on the screens.  

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    Heard him on NPR the other day (none / 0) (#55)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 03:04:59 PM EST
    re: his book about his larger than life parents. Very touching.

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    Hockey Fans? Caps and Rangers (none / 0) (#14)
    by professorWagstaff on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:45:13 PM EST
    Game 7 tonight at 7pm. Should be a good game. Let's go Caps.

    Praise God!!! (none / 0) (#34)
    by CDN Ctzn on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:19:46 PM EST
    Another true sports fan!
    Interesting how Hockey always gets allocated to the last 5 minutes of Sportscenter or the page A12 equivalent of the Sports Section. And they wonder why no one follows it. Thanks to the coverage, few know it exists! Still the greatest sport IMO!

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    Yep, hockey is great (none / 0) (#52)
    by professorWagstaff on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 07:38:39 AM EST
    I got the beard going for round two. Pens and Caps will be an interesting series. Did you see how the Ducks beat out the Sharks? Crazy stuff.

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    That's The Beauty (none / 0) (#58)
    by CDN Ctzn on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 04:58:47 PM EST
    of playoff hockey; anything can happen. If a team has grit and great goaltending they can go far. I'm looking forward to the Canucks and Blackhawks series. I've got to root for the only Canadian team left, although the rosters of all the teams are loaded with Canadians.
    Looking forward to seeing what teams the countries field (ice?) for the Olympics. I've got family in Vancouver with connections so I may be able to take in a game.
    Enjoy the playoffs!

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    Meh (none / 0) (#38)
    by CST on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:26:33 PM EST
    Bruins already won.

    Talk to me in the next round.

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    Court upholds dirty words ban (somewhat) (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 02:49:03 PM EST
    Link

    Splitting 5-4, the Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld the government's power under existing law to ban the use on radio and TV of even a single four-letter word that is considered indecent -- but left open the question of whether the ban might violate the First Amendment, at least in some situations.  The Court, in an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia, said the Federal Communications Commission's switch in policy to ban even a fleeting use of such a word was "entirely rational" under the law that governs federal administrative powers.  The ruling came in FCC v. Fox Television Stations, et al. (07-582).

    The opinion referred to the banned words as the "F-word" and the "S-word" but not go on to fill out their actual spelling.  Justice Scalia also did not spell them out in his oral announcement of the decision.

    His written opinion, in a case dealing with uses of those four-letter words during performance awards broadcasts involving celebrities, took a swipe at "foul-mouthed glitteratae from Hollywood."

    Basically, the ruling simply means that the FCC provided a sufficient explanation of why it switched from a more relaxed policy on "dirty words" to a near-total ban on "fleeting expletives." The ban applies on radio and TV from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. only.



    Neil Oxman is probably the best Dem (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:34:10 PM EST
    media consultant in the country, and he's on board with Joe Torsella in PA:

    "Specter has a record and his record is -- for Democratic primary voters -- not a very good one," he said. "I don't think it matters what Joe Biden or Harry Reid or any Washington guy says. Specter a record of votes, and they have not been particularly good ones, for the last 20 years."

    Good, this will put pressure on Specter to go into the Democratic mainstream a la Kirsten Gillibrand.

    Probably (none / 0) (#21)
    by jbindc on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:37:35 PM EST
    But Specter has name recognition, the backing of PA heavies (right now), and money.

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    No question that Specter is heavily favored (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:39:07 PM EST
    after LIEberman (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:41:02 PM EST
    I never bet against members of the ole boys club.


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    Not reason not to apply heat, though (none / 0) (#24)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 03:43:39 PM EST
    They need to know that the rest of us are still here.

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    Quite a spectacle (none / 0) (#29)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:12:30 PM EST
    if Reid, Rendell et al go out actively campaigning in the primary for Specter and against a real Democrat or two.

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    After the Dems came out for Casey (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:23:00 PM EST
    despite his anti-choice stance and other deviations from the Dem party platform, I wouldn't put anything past that gang.  They are interested in self-preservation -- themselves individually, not really the party -- more than Dem principles.

    So the Dem leaders already had abandoned party principles, and then in 2008 they abandoned party processes.  What's left?  Not a party, anymore.  Only an ever-shifting group that wants power for its sake, not for empowering the people or pushing their issues.    

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    the only thing worse (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:30:05 PM EST
    would be, well, the republicans

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    Yep. Most Republicans. (none / 0) (#40)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:06:38 PM EST
    But the point is that their parties don't matter to me, since they have allowed such permeable borders.  Both parties have made themselves meaningless in so many matters.

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    LIEberman (none / 0) (#30)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:14:27 PM EST
    redux

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    it happened (none / 0) (#31)
    by CST on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:14:47 PM EST
    in conneticut

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    pfft (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 04:15:32 PM EST
    great minds . . .

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    Duh report (none / 0) (#44)
    by DFLer on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:39:12 PM EST

    A new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll has found that 64 percent of those responding believe Coleman, the Republican, should accept the recount trial court's April 13 verdict that Democrat Franken won the race by 312 votes.

    Only 28 percent consider last week's appeal by Coleman to the Minnesota Supreme Court "appropriate."

    Large majorities of those polled said they would oppose any further appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court

    Had an unexpected day off today. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Anne on Tue Apr 28, 2009 at 05:46:43 PM EST
    As I was leaving for work this morning, I heard there had been a water main break very close to my building, and that the street I would take off the expressway was closed.

    Okay, I thought, I'll just take a slightly different route and come into the garage from the other entrance.

    Well, 'twas not to be.

    As I got closer, I could see enough flashing lights that I was pretty sure the street the other garage entrance was on would also be closed.

    Called a co-worker, who was most likely to be at work already, and he confirmed that we could not get into the garage, and because the water to the building had been turned off, the office was closing.

    Great (sort of - I had postponed until today sending a FedEx because my secretary was out yesterday and I didn't want to impose on the only other secretary in the department) - I'll just go home.

    Well...it took me an hour to go about four blocks (it then took me 20 minutes to drive the 25 miles home).  And this was early - before 8:00.  I'm convinced it had a lot to do with the "traffic-control officers" who were "directing" traffic around the closed streets.  I've gotten so that when I see them in the street, I know I'm screwed and it will take 10 times longer.

    Anyway, when all was said and done, I think they closed something like 10 blocks in the heart of downtown.

    Here are some pictures of the flood.

    And a snip of the story:

    City transportation officials say the water pipe broke under the intersection of Lombard and Gay Streets around 5:30 am this morning.

    All city buildings in downtown Baltimore and the federal and circuit courts were closed after the water main break.

    The Schaefer Tower was closed due to low water pressure.

    The Schaefer Tower houses 14 State agencies among them the Maryland Transit Administration and the Maryland Public Service Commission. More than 1,100 employees are affected by the building's closure.

    The Maryland Department of General Services will alert State employees when the building reopens. Employees and anyone conducting business with State agencies in the building should listen for announcements on reopening on local radio and television stations.

    Crews have turned off the 40-inch main and 20-inch main. Kocher says the flooding in the area reached about 2 feet at one point, but the water has receded.

    People are being asked to check to see if their businesses are open before going to work and use mass transit since many parking garages in the area are inaccessible.

    Might be getting another day off tomorrow...