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    I just wanted to say Thanks (5.00 / 8) (#1)
    by kenosharick on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 09:35:32 AM EST
    for all the nice thoughts before my thesis defense yesterday. I passed, and in fact have been hired (as an adjunct) by my university to teach three classes this Fall.

    Congratulations, (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:10:47 AM EST
    and best wishes fora successful academic career.  Your faculty appointment is a great start particularly in these difficult times. The adjunct position will yield good teaching experiences and, often, may be converted along the way to tenure-track (assuming your institution offers tenure).

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    Congratulations! (5.00 / 0) (#7)
    by Democratic Cat on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:24:40 AM EST
    I remember "fondly" my own thesis defense.  I needed a drink or three afterwards.  Good job, take the day off!

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    Congrats -- and condolences (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:22:24 AM EST
    Rick.  I could tell from your comments here for years now that you were going to have a fine thesis.  And in any other year, you'd be hired in a regular post rather than be one of the wage slaves of academe, the amorphous adjuncts and ad hocs.

    But a lot of adjuncts are being let go in these budgetary times, so you still did well with that -- and it has bought you time to get published and position yourself for the positions when budgets come back.  Remember that's your task, to land a permanent position to be able to be of permanent service to students, so don't let fulltime faculty overload you with the work that they ought to do.

    I have seen too many good young adjuncts and ad hocs think that it's a route to being hired where they are, and it's rarely so.  So, btw, get yourself a carrel in the library to do your work and don't hang around the department too much -- unless they want to talk about how they are going to frame the next position perfectly for you.:-)

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    Congratulations!!!!! (5.00 / 0) (#26)
    by Dr Molly on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:00:44 PM EST
    A huge accomplishment and, I'm sure, a huge relief. I hope you're going to celebrate and do something wonderful for yourself!

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    Yay (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 09:49:39 AM EST
    What's your discipline?

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    Sorry- history, (none / 0) (#67)
    by kenosharick on Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 09:19:54 AM EST
    specifically recent American political history.

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    Great news! (none / 0) (#4)
    by Anne on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 09:58:49 AM EST
    Congrats!  Must be really satisfying, after all your hard work, to successfully clear that last hurdle.  And the relief of all that pressure has to feel good, too :-)

    Congrats on the teaching position, too - more confirmation that you're doing a great job.

    Celebrate!

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    Great News is extra welcome (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:08:53 AM EST
    at the moment.  It's a form of nourishment.

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    Congrats (none / 0) (#51)
    by BackFromOhio on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:24:11 PM EST
    Enjoy the moment

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    There's something about smart people (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:14:49 AM EST
    having high highs and low lows. Not talking about myself or anything. . .

    In hindsight (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Steve M on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:38:21 AM EST
    can you really hold his uncertainty against him?

    rimshot! (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:45:52 AM EST
    Yes, But (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:30:36 AM EST
    What if the cat was pregnant?

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    During (none / 0) (#66)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 03:14:38 AM EST
    Of course.

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    Leadership and courage, (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:45:31 PM EST
    as scarce as they may be, still do exist.  The Rev. Eric Lee, president of the L.A. chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, is under siege from the Atlanta headquarters for his active opposition to California's Proposition 8 on the ballot last fall.  Rev. Lee stated that his support of marriage equality has created tensions in his life that he never experienced from clerical colleagues. However, the Reverend is quoted as saying that any time you deny one group of people the same right that other groups have, it  is a clear violation of civil rights--and it requires him to speak up.  Rev. Lee, by following the authority of his heart, is an inspirational and stout religious leader.  

    Blood On Their Hands (5.00 / 0) (#39)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 02:46:08 PM EST
    A handshake with BushCo obviously spreads the stain on America, instead of erasing it as Obama promised to do.
    Obama administration officials said Friday they had no grounds to investigate the 2001 deaths of Taliban prisoners of war who human rights groups allege were killed by U.S.-backed forces.

    Remember that story? Allegedly, prisoners captured shortly after 9/11, put )or stacked) in containers, left in the hot sun for days without water or food. Alllegedly the US troops would get annoyed enough by the screams and banging coming from the inside of the airless containers that they would shoot some holes, not to give the prisoners air, but to shut them up.

    Oh and the reason "Obama administration officials" gave for refusing to investigate this well documented "alleged" war crime?

    U.S. officials said Friday they did not have legal grounds to investigate the deaths because only foreigners were involved and the alleged killings occurred in a foreign country.


    Link (5.00 / 0) (#40)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 02:47:03 PM EST
    Obama and the stimulus (none / 0) (#8)
    by Dadler on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:28:44 AM EST
    President chides doubters and says that woefully inadequate stimulus, wait now, here it comes, will kick in later this year.

    Oh whew, good, I was worried.  

    What a joke.  I'd love to hear the explanations Geithner and Summers gave him about the two year gestation.  I suppose the money is in a sort of cocooon that cannot be accessed but by the whims of nature, or AIG.

    Wanna place a bet on what we'll see first? (none / 0) (#15)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:16:10 AM EST
    The stimulus working or my great niece/nephew due to arrive in 6mos? I'm pretty sure baby will be kicking sooner  ;)

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    Not sure he should have used the (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:21:27 AM EST
    phrase kick in when punt in is more accurate.  This isn't going to be a touchdown, more like a field goal that barely cleared the uprights.

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    AIG bonuses keep coming (none / 0) (#45)
    by Dadler on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:42:41 PM EST
    Amazing how greedy these asshats are.  Did none of their mothers or fathers teach them the meaning of the word "enough"?

    Obviously not.

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    oops forgot the link (none / 0) (#46)
    by Dadler on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:43:22 PM EST
    Question (none / 0) (#53)
    by BackFromOhio on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:34:39 PM EST
    What happens if AIG renegs on bonuses & would-be recipients leave the company?  Less red ink?

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    Baseball fever (none / 0) (#11)
    by KoolJeffrey on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 10:57:14 AM EST
    Going to an Arizona Diamondbacks game with my nephews on Sunday. Nothing better than beer and hotdogs on a lazy summer afternoon.

    Oh yeh? Better is beer (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:25:17 AM EST
    and bratwurst.  With sauerkraut, mustard, and mmmmmm Secret Stadium Sauce.  From the stadium that gets rave reviews for the best food in baseball.

    And the stadium with extra-wide seats for all the extra-wide butts that result from having the best food in baseball. . . .

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    I can do Bratwurst (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:31:36 AM EST
    Is Bratwurst any better than a hotdog though or do I just lie to myself because I love Bratwurst?

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    It's finska wurska (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:06:55 PM EST
    as we say in brew city.  Yeh, brats are better in terms of less, um, nonmeat products found in too many hot dogs.  (All-meat dogs are a different deal.)

    The best are Johnsonville brats, if you can get them where you are.  And best is to simmer for an hour or more, especially in onions braised (in beer:-) first.  Too many people try to cook brats too fast, like the typical hot dogs that aren't as meaty.  Then their brats are too tough or chewy.

    Of course, really best is to marinate brats in beer overnight first.  If serving a lot of people, best is to marinate 100s of brats in gallons of beer in a new, clean garbage can.  And then, you can use the garbage can for wapitoolis.  Ah, summer.

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    You must be talking about (none / 0) (#24)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:38:31 AM EST
    Yankee Stadium!!!!!  {grin}

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    Nope. (none / 0) (#25)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:57:52 AM EST
    Milwaukee Brewers.  Home of Secret Stadium Sauce.  Unbelievably good.  (And close to the sauerkraut capital of the world: Franksville, Wisconsin.:-)

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    Is this the stadium's last season? (none / 0) (#32)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:12:23 PM EST
    I thought I heard that when I was watching a game, but I can't remember the game or if I heard right, lol!~

    I think Yankee and Shea may be at the top of the food list this year. Brewer Secret Sauce just got some seriously heavy competition when the new stadiums opened. And yes, they expanded the seat size and increased the leg room . . . . my lil' butt's gonna be all kinds of comfortable!!

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    Gosh, no. Only a few years old. (none / 0) (#37)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 01:09:04 PM EST
    I'll take the beer (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:13:21 AM EST
    I can't eat a hotdog though.  My mind ceases up my jaws contemplating what I'm eating and I can't chew or swallow.

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    Not much going on (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:30:05 AM EST
    Will finish reading the news around the sphere and then the rest of the housework.  I confess that I watched some Bill Maher last night for the first time since the primary and his blatant gross misogyny.  I enjoyed Meghan McCain's view about women, sex, and the toxic Republican party and I'm so glad that I didn't ever have to figure out how to be a happy woman and resolve having a very powerful conservative politician for a father.  I wonder if Maher has learned anything?  He ticked off so many women that I know.  Wonder if he even cares to learn anything when it comes to equality and/or women?  He seems to think that he's learned everything relevant that there was to learn.

    Caught up on (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by brodie on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:29:24 PM EST
    some Maher last night too.  Dunno if I noticed any misogyny last night from Bill, and he was quite gentlemanly in trying to put a nervous Meghan McCain at ease.

    But wouldn't ya know it, that mean Paul Begala caught her trying to have it both ways, taking the easy way out on a discussion about presidents blaming their predecessors.  She needs to remember that if she's going to show up and dish it out, as she tried to do against Obama, mostly incorrectly imo, she needs to be able to deal with the counter arguments, and not fall back on childish excuses and personal attacks for her lack of knowledge and inability to substantiate her position.

    Pretty good 2d hour of Maher on HBO, the 3 one-on-one interviews.  Cameron Diaz giggled too much, but was still delightful according to our score cards.  

    Director Oliver Stone informed that he thinks Reagan and Bush were dumb (check), and that he's working on a sequel to his outstanding Wall Street, updated for the recent Great Recession, with Michael Douglas returning as Gordon Gekko.  Interestingly, Stone brought to the interview one of the most important books I've read in recent years, JFK and the Unspeakable, by James Douglass.

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    Is it funny or just sad (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:32:19 AM EST
    that Montel is selling an expensive blender on an infomercial?

    $$$ makes the world go 'round (none / 0) (#48)
    by ChiTownDenny on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:05:27 PM EST
    coming soon...
    the Palin Pasta Maker.


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    But call now. . .! (none / 0) (#50)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:14:20 PM EST
    I dunno (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:35:59 AM EST
    It does seem to be the perfect item for Montel to sell though.  I can't imagine visiting Montel and not having an umbrella drink while the kids have smoothies!  I can't watch Montel's show.  I can't watch Springer either.  I just can't do it.

    Is this the same Heisenberg (none / 0) (#27)
    by Dr Molly on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:01:13 PM EST
    of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?

    Uncertainty (none / 0) (#36)
    by Molly Pitcher on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:48:59 PM EST
    You betcha!  Nothing uncertain about that conclusion.

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    Ah, revenge on airlines (none / 0) (#28)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:02:04 PM EST
    is the sweetest, as after a week, I still am physically recovering from awful flights, lousy late service, broken seats, battered baggage, and so much more. . . .

    United (well, really, O'Hare, where I won't fly through anymore) broke this band guy's guitar, and the airline refused liability, prevaricating for a year -- so the guy wrote this song and made this video, and it's had a million and a half hits already.  Hahahahaha.

    And he wrote two more songs about his airline ordeal, still to come.  Hahahahahah.

    Watching "The Practice" (none / 0) (#29)
    by joze46 on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:02:24 PM EST
    Thesis and theories, an interesting thought

    Watching "The Practice" really had me going; the actors were riveting in a court room drama that involved a Psychoanalyst involved in a murder of his patient's husband. Perhaps you have seen it? Anyway in a leading role Dylan McDermott had a theory and played it out in the court room along with Steve Harris.

    The Psychoanalyst was found to be in love with his patient, but as Dylan pointed out in Perry Mason Style committed the murder, with court room pressure and wound up shooting himself in the head right in the court room. Sheesh. The lawyers produced so much pressure the Head shrink couldn't take it any longer.    

    I used to like to watch Perry mason drama's as you might guess...but here is a
    Link for the stars on the program if you don't know, but I think most of you do know them.

     http://members.tripod.com/Vickie_Fernandes/imagegallery.html

    Wouldn't it be interesting if the same pressure was put on the Bush administration about all this wiretapping stuff?

    Please understand I have no legal training am rookie at this stuff but developed my own theory and feel with the right legal pressure would result in exposure of a wild crime scheme involved in Bush's secret endeavor, with high corporate friends will eventually spill the beans.

    Especially with a money connection to this banking stuff called derivatives but on the open international market. Of course to make a huge score insider knowledge would be necessary such as knowing who is talking and dealing with whom. A war time secret wiretapping reason would be the perfect cover up for a multinational international money banking sham. A Bush method of operation certainly fits, as a bank schemer from way back, and the law being on Bush's side is very compelling to draw in the best of the best to walk away with trillions in tax payer dollars. Far fetched, no, likely happened because this thing is too secret...  

    If you are enjoying "The Practice" (none / 0) (#58)
    by oldpro on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 06:06:03 PM EST
    reruns you should love the program it segued into with some of the same people, better writers and hilarious situations played absolutely straight by fine actors..."Boston Legal."

    A laugh riot, now in reruns and on DVD.

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    Berries and cherries! (none / 0) (#31)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:07:14 PM EST
    {does the happy berry cherry dance}

    Our fruit share started today and we got black raspberries, blueberries and the juiciest sour cherries. Yum. The raspberries, I'm going to whip up some pizzelles and and some fresh whipped cream. Blueberries, either frozen yogurt or ice cream, cherries have been going straight into my mouth :)

    A great bing cherry crop this year (none / 0) (#33)
    by Cream City on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:14:49 PM EST
    after a disastrous last year here.  So the price is right, and I just went through half a pound last night -- and still proudly bear the red bing cherry stains on my fingers to prove it.

    Somehow, I never get around to making a cherry pie, because the cherries are gone in record time here, too.  And the best time, for the best flavor, is all too brief but to be enjoyed.  So I've got to go get another half-pound today, freshly picked only an hour away.  

    Fresh raspberries and strawberries are raised are even closer, but they rarely get into recipes, either -- other than my fave, which is berries dipped in sour cream and brown sugar, one by one, around the table. . . .  You actually have the fortitude to pass on them so you can put them in pizzelles?  That's discipline.  (That's also delicious.  I love pizzelles, fresh and warm!)

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    raspberries would be gone if I didn't have (none / 0) (#34)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:31:30 PM EST
    the cherries to pop into my mouth instead, lol!~ I was walking home and had forgotten my water, so I started popping cherries. OMG! It was almost like drinking juice!!

    I bought one of those canisters you put the cream in and then it has a cartridge so you just have to push the button for whipped cream. I'm probably having pizzelles for dinner . . .   ;)

    I'll be at the farmers market this week picking up a lot of berries. There's a few things I want to make with them and I also want to can some to have for later use. I'm such a berry sl*t. One of the first things I'll plant in CA will be berry bushes.

    I haven't had any bing cherries yet, but I think they've started arriving at the farmers market. Iirc, there are a few varieties popping up. Ahhhh . . . summer!

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    Gardeners, watch for "late blight" (none / 0) (#38)
    by lambert on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 02:27:19 PM EST
    if you have tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, or eggplant. Late blight caused the Irish potato famine, and its spread by airborne spores. Details and solutions.

    Did you see this post? (none / 0) (#56)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 05:11:35 PM EST
    at Lavidalocavore?

    There's a comment from OrganicGeorge that I thought was interesting. Also, as to the mention of bleach solution in the comments, I would look and see if tea tree oil, vinegar or grapefruit seed extract might work the same. Less harsh. I frequently take the rind of lemons and limes I've juiced and put them in a jar and cover with vinegar. After about 2 weeks, I have my "cleaning solution" ;)

    Sorry if I repeated anything, I was too tired to click and read through all your links :)

    All the farms around "my" farms seem to be organic. I sure as heck hope this stuff doesn't travel too far by air. Their potatoes stored well into the winter and I still have some canned tomatoes . . . Our farmers would lose some money, but they are also supported through the CSAs. The first year I was with them, they lost beans to some beetles, I don't recall the members being overly upset. It would really f***ing suck to lose tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant and peppers, but we would all deal :)  

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    None of that stuff (none / 0) (#62)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 08:55:11 PM EST
    works on late blight, nor does it prevent it.  If you started using it before any blight spores got on the plants, it might delay the development a bit, but when the blight arrives this early, it won't delay it enough to save any crops.

    Late blight doesn't survive in the soil over the winter in the Northeast, so we rarely have a problem with it.  But this year, some moron commercial grower down in Alabama shipped thousands of blight-infested tomato plants to big box stores and supermarkets, where home gardeners bought them, took them home, planted them, and spread the thing all over the NE.

    Locally grown stuff won't have it to begin with, but these spores spread like crazy through the air and a field miles from the nearest infected plant can come down with it.  The wet cool weather is just what the spores like, and they multiply like crazy.

    It only takes a couple of days from the initial symptoms to total collapse of the plant, btw.

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    Oh, it wasn't for use on the plants (none / 0) (#65)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 11:55:37 PM EST
    but tools. I can't remember the exact comment at the moment, but it was something about dipping frequently to keep sterilized. I generally check and see if one of the less harsh alternatives will work in place of bleach.

    Thanks for the info! Dang, shame it travels so far. We planted in mid May and then according to one of the workers up there, they had over 11" of rain between June 7th and beginning of July . . . I think I'll just forget about all the wind we've had on top of it . . .

    Will the commercial grower be held accountable (yeah, I know, kinda dumb question these days . . . )?

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    Howard Wolfson (none / 0) (#41)
    by andgarden on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:00:06 PM EST
    Obviously NYC Is (none / 0) (#42)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:13:29 PM EST
    The best government money can buy:

    "There has been an evolution among rank-and-file Democrats in recognizing him as a great mayor," Mr. Wolfson said

    lol


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    Drug Dealing Zelaya (none / 0) (#43)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:21:49 PM EST
    Turns out that Zelaya is not only a commie but a drug dealer as well. Shoulda known..

    These "reports of possible Zelaya drug ties" have come from none other than the newly-minted Honduran "Foreign Minister" Enrique Ortez. He claimed in an interview that "Every night, three or four Venezuelan-registered planes land without the permission of appropriate authorities and bring thousands of pounds ... and packages of money that are the fruit of drug trafficking."

    Ortez? His criticism of Obama was a shade darker than much of what was said by Hillary cultists..  so as digby says

    I think I finally understand why so many Republicans are backing the coup.

    They love the guy cause he sounds just like them:

    "He negociado con maricones, prostitutas, con ñángaras (izquierdistas), negros, blancos. Ese es mi trabajo, yo estudié eso. No tengo prejuicios raciales, me gusta el negrito del batey que está presidiendo los Estados Unidos."

    --------

    "I have negotiated with queers, prostitutes, leftists, blacks, whites. This is my job, I studied for it. I am not racially prejudiced. I like the little black sugar plantation worker who is president of the United States."




    Exploding Heads (none / 0) (#47)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 03:43:36 PM EST
    Peggy Noonan on Palin:

    She is a complete elite confection. She might as well have been a bonbon.

    [snip]

    Really, she is the most careless sower of discord since George W. Bush, who fractured the party and the movement that made him.

    but

    The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment.

    so

    ... the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party--a party that deserves to lead--would do.

    Newt?  lol

    lol (none / 0) (#52)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:24:35 PM EST
    yes the GOP atom is splitting. Lots of exploding heads....

    Rick Perlstein writes about it quite succinctly.

    Beyond the Palin
    Why the GOP is falling out of love with gun-toting, churchgoing, working-class whites.



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    Ooops (none / 0) (#54)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:46:11 PM EST
    Joe the Plumber got welfare, and Ricci is a example of tort gone wild.

    Let's see if the question comes up about his litigious history when he is propped up by the GOP as a confirmation witness so that he can ask Sotomayer some tough questions.

    digby

    Shaping up like any other weekend (none / 0) (#55)
    by SOS on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 04:59:19 PM EST
    Watching Mankind's Folly's quite a show.

    Hopeful News (none / 0) (#57)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 05:32:18 PM EST
    Four knowledgeable sources tell NEWSWEEK that he [AG Holder] is now leaning toward appointing a prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's brutal interrogation practices, something the president has been reluctant to do. While no final decision has been made, an announcement could come in a matter of weeks, say these sources, who decline to be identified discussing a sensitive law-enforcement matter.

    Such a decision would roil the country, would likely plunge Washington into a new round of partisan warfare, and could even imperil Obama's domestic priorities, including health care and energy reform. Holder knows all this, and he has been wrestling with the question for months. "I hope that whatever decision I make would not have a negative impact on the president's agenda," he says. "But that can't be a part of my decision."

    newsweek

    we'll see

    Palin Soon To Stump (none / 0) (#59)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 06:37:54 PM EST
    And, get this, any conservative fundie who has the cash, gets her to stump for them, despite being a Democrat.

    Spector, Nelson... et al are doing the math with this news..

    moonie times

    lol

    Honestly . . . (none / 0) (#60)
    by nycstray on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 07:06:49 PM EST
    maybe some so called Dems will get a clue if she's out there stumpin' for the dogs.

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#61)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 07:20:42 PM EST
    Although the so called dems are representing their constituents, and all constituents who pull the lever for D are not created equal. Some would find Palin appealing, imo. Heck, many here who were Hillary fanatics, are Palin supporters, and not necessarily conservative otherwise.

    The others D pols, who could catch a clue, have their index finger in the wind constantly feeling for wind direction and force.

    IOW anyone who gets more votes because of Palin will use her, and anyone who sees her as toxic will stay away. D or R.

    Meanwhile, I predict that her pockets (or war chest) will soon be bulging.

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