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Great version that made the rounds of Facebook last night, thanks to Larisa at At Largely. Perfect intro to "Weeds" and "Nurse Jackie" which have new episodes tonight. (And yes, the Bachelorette is on, but it's a rewind episode called the "Men Tell All" with only the early rejected guys, none of the final four and I already wrote about it here.)

What are you watching, or not, tonight? This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Wheeew! (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by andgarden on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 07:57:25 PM EST
    Three questions, three hours, and 3,500 words later, I don't want to take another exam for a while. . .

    What's your sense of how you did? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Anne on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 08:10:15 PM EST
    Any of the questions make you feel like you needed a trashcan to throw up in?

    Hope you feel good about the exam - am sure you did well!

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    One never really knows on these exams (5.00 / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 08:22:03 PM EST
    But I will say that I called one of the questions beforehand.

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    Court packing? (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:26:08 PM EST
    I did actually mention that (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:28:06 PM EST
    in one context.

    But no, I predicted, and there was, an indefinite detention fact pattern.

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    Fundraiser for Islamic (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:45:39 PM EST
    charity picked up in the Philippines?

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    US citizen of Somali descent (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by andgarden on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:57:10 PM EST
    detained on reentry. It was somewhere between Hamdi and Korematsu.

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    Roger Rosenblatt just did a (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by oldpro on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:19:25 PM EST
    lovely tribute/interview of PBS' News Hour on his friend Frank McCourt.  Few books have hit me as hard as Angela's Ashes.

    Posted at the end of the afternoon open thread that Frank has died...a little late to post, I guess, so second mention here.

    I read all of Frank McCourt's books (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:24:02 PM EST
    and also all of the books by his wild brother.

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    I haven't read his 3rd book (none / 0) (#15)
    by oldpro on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:50:54 PM EST
    yet but now I will.

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    Apparently a younger brother did several (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 03:01:03 PM EST
    documentaries on Frank and brother Malachy.  I would like to see those.

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    Add Harriet Doerr. (none / 0) (#47)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 03:01:58 PM EST
    OMG...I just happened onto IFC (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by oldpro on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:55:36 PM EST
    rerunning A Fish Called Wanda and I am laughing so hard at Kevin Kline I think I'll wet my britches!  Boy, do I need a good laugh...

    Just hysterical. I adore Kevin (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by oldpro on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33:30 PM EST
    Kline.  What a contrast to his fabulous role in Sophie's Choice.  An actor's actor, I do believe.  Spontaneous and impulsive within the character he embodies -- it gives him such an alive and compelling presence on the screen.  Keeps me on the edge of my seat just waiting for the next surprise from KK.

    Remember him eating the fish?  "Not the green ones...they're not ripe yet!" LOLOLOL

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    He has an incredible (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:35:43 AM EST
    ability to show very percisely what his character is thinking on his face, without saying a word or even "making a face" in any obvious way.

    I laughed so hard at "A Fish Called Wanda" the first time I saw it, I almost made myself sick.  And his performance in "Sophie's Choice" is near genius, IMHO.

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    It's odd how some movies... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by EL seattle on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 11:47:37 PM EST
    ...can change your life in trivial but permanent ways.

    Whenever I read through a book of zen koans, parables, or stories, somewhere in the back of my mind I'm always looking for that one special elusive passage that expresses the important principle of "Every Man For Himself."

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    Hmmm...got some examples? (none / 0) (#25)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:17:04 AM EST
    I'd have to take issue with that as an "important principle."  For men, maybe.  Not for a mom.  Generally speaking.

    Care to elaborate?  Perhaps I misunderstand you.

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    Jamie Lee Curtis.... (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by EL seattle on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:44:53 AM EST
    Otto West: Don't call me stupid.

    Wanda: Oh, right! To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep that could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher IQs. But you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape?

    Otto West: Apes don't read philosophy.

    Wanda: Yes they do, Otto. They just don't understand it. Now let me correct you on a couple of things, OK? Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not "Every man for himself." And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked them up.

    - - - - -

    I believe that Wanda's research was absolutely 100% correct, but I can't help but keep an eye out for an odd (mistranslated?) zen exception somewhere.  It's like some mental popcorn thing.


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    Whew. OK then. (none / 0) (#27)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:55:03 AM EST
    As it happens, I do know the sound of one hand clapping and motorcycle maintenance is no mystery to those of us who read our way through the second half of the 20th century.

    I don't know you personnaly, so I'm not entitled to judge but I've never met a 'seeker' who held my attention for more than 3 minutes.  Unless they were singing.  Do you sing?

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    I guess that we're all singers... (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by EL seattle on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:19:22 AM EST
    ...in the great karaoke bar of life.  Maybe the secret is to find a karaoke place with the best books.

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    I think you're on to something! (none / 0) (#39)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:06:37 PM EST
    Let's write a business plan and get this puppy in motion.  Maybe the basement at Elliott in Pioneer Square as partners?  We could save a lot of time and money by moving in with the already successful.

    For variety, we could have "Open a book and sing!" nights.  Or days.  The book provides the words.  You provide the melody.

    Let's see...."It was the best of times.  It was the worst of times..."

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    The "books" reference there was... (none / 0) (#43)
    by EL seattle on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 02:33:33 PM EST
    ...related to the available song list books that karaoke places use.  Some of these have a great variety of possibilites, and others are very very narrow.

    But the reading/singing karaoke idea could be great, I think.  Appropriate soundtrack music in the background while the reader delivers 3-5 minutes of significant prose or poetry.  It might be sort of like the original work chaos of a good open mic reading (only different) and sort of like the festive chaos of a poetry slam (only different.)

    I'd think that someone has done this already, at some place around town, but maybe not.  Hmmmmm.  More research needed....

    And who knows, sometimes things like this can even become popular with some folks.

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    Dear Gawd....am I ever (none / 0) (#49)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 08:41:06 PM EST
    out of the loop.

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    "Aristotle was not Belgium" (none / 0) (#31)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:38:21 AM EST
    is is where I nearly threw up I was laughing so hard!  Thanks for the reminder!  And the look on Kline's face while she's reading him this particular riot act is beyond fabulous.

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    There's an ancient Buddhist (none / 0) (#48)
    by jondee on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 03:54:48 PM EST
    meditation that the monks used to use before they went into battle..You could try that.

    One of the few truely hilarious movies. I love that verbal sparring match near the end of the movie between Otto and Archie when Archie's trying to stall for time while standing in a drum of toxic waste. Priceless.

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    1969 Grace at Woodstock (5.00 / 0) (#28)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:13:30 AM EST
    ...love that voice...

    The great Gracie Slick (none / 0) (#4)
    by Cream City on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 08:29:01 PM EST
    and this song still never have been equaled.  

    Nor have we seen the likes of Weeds or Nurse Jackie before -- so hook(ah)ed on both of those shows.  Plus a couple of new ones we like: Hung and Warehouse 13, the latter just escapist sci fi fun, but with a few twists from history, too.

    Ah, Grace Slick. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by brodie on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:18:00 PM EST
    Quite a babe back then.  And for good measure, she wrote the song too if my info is correct.

    One of my favorite groups from my favorite era in music.  

    Congrats to the host Smothers Brothers for going against the grain and not playing it safe.

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    Fun Grace Slick story (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 10:54:01 PM EST
    Years ago, in the early 1970s, Geraldo Rivera had a late night show on ABC. One night Grace was his guest. This was after the deaths of Hendrix, Morrison, Mama Cass, and Joplin. Geraldo was trying to make a point about the evils of drugs and how pervasive this problem was in the world of rock and roll. So, he and Grace talked about all this and her own drug use. Then Geraldo, looking for some big confession, asked Grace if she could do all over what she would do different.

    Grace's answer? " I'd be a blonde and have big t!ts, " she replied to a stunned and dismayed Geraldo.

    If I hadn't already loved her, I would have loved just for that.

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    watched the Fish batting (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 08:46:16 PM EST
    practice and the female NASA astronaught who will throw out the first pitch. Practice throws were pretty well. Blue jumpsuit and ponytail.  

    1-0 on a solo HR (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:19:39 PM EST
    by Hanley Ramirez.

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    Are you (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:43:22 PM EST
    live blogging for me lol. Go Fish!

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    Yes since I don't tweet (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 09:49:04 PM EST
    And the final was (none / 0) (#32)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:39:32 AM EST
    1 Fish 2 Fish 3 Fish to 2 Padres

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    Perhaps (none / 0) (#20)
    by CoralGables on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 10:10:21 PM EST
    it's astronaught if she didn't reach the plate

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    She did about as well as Obama at (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 02:53:26 PM EST
    teh All Star game.

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    Apparently the word "astronaught" (none / 0) (#45)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 02:54:53 PM EST
    already has a meaning.  See Urban Dictionary.  Who knew?

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    More hidden government studies (none / 0) (#33)
    by jbindc on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:59:48 AM EST
    Apparently a long-term study by the NHTSA on the safety risk posed by cell phone users behind the wheel was shelved, partly because they didn't want to anger Congress.

    The former head of the highway safety agency said he was urged to withhold the research to avoid antagonizing members of Congress who had warned the agency to stick to its mission of gathering safety data but not to lobby states.

    Critics say that rationale and the failure of the Transportation Department, which oversees the highway agency, to more vigorously pursue distracted driving has cost lives and allowed to blossom a culture of behind-the-wheel multitasking.

    "We're looking at a problem that could be as bad as drunk driving, and the government has covered it up," said Clarence Ditlow, director of the Center for Auto Safety.

    SNIP

    The highway safety researchers estimated that cellphone use by drivers caused around 955 fatalities and 240,000 accidents over all in 2002.

    The researchers also shelved a draft letter they had prepared for Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta to send, warning states that hands-free laws might not solve the problem.

    That letter said that hands-free headsets did not eliminate the serious accident risk. The reason: a cellphone conversation itself, not just holding the phone, takes drivers' focus off the road, studies showed.

    SNIP

    At the time, Congress had warned the agency not to use its research to lobby states. Dr. Runge said transit officials told him he could jeopardize billions of dollars of its financing if Congress perceived the agency had crossed the line into lobbying.



    Is it bad... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:14:54 AM EST
    that Congress told the NHTSA to chill?  I'm not so sure...we all know what the states would do when handed this study...more tickets, more fines, more hassles.

    For once I think Congress might have it right.

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    A very large delivery truck (none / 0) (#35)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:26:47 AM EST
    drove over the front end of my car because he was talking on the phone instead of paying attention to his driving.

    My state mandates handsfree only cell phone use while driving, but I still see more regular phone to ear usage on the road than is safe. I'm tired of being caught in traffic because of the accidents they cause.

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    I'm tired of a lot of things... (none / 0) (#36)
    by kdog on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:35:49 AM EST
    but some of them can't be avoided in a free society, a ticker tape parade of tickets can be.

    I just except the fact I'm taking my life in my hands when I start the engine and pay extra attention to the other cars that may not be paying attention...best we can do.

    The alternative is bumper to bumper watching the cops write all them tickets...works out great for auto-insurers and city/state coffers, not so much for keeping traffic flowing, or the pocketbooks of the citizenry.

    As I've said before I was almost killed by a sober driver who wasn't on the phone...it is no consolation I assure you.

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    I disagree (5.00 / 3) (#37)
    by jbindc on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:40:38 AM EST
    I'm sorry - this is a time when public safety trumps someone's right to talk on the phone while driving. And I say this as someone who gets yelled at by my mother when I call her from my car without my bluetooth.

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    Don't be sorry... (none / 0) (#38)
    by kdog on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:59:26 AM EST
    its a reasonable position, just not one I share.  I tend to think some people can handle talking on the phone and driving and others can't...if you can handle it I say knock yourself out, and if you can't you will exhibit signs of reckless driving that you could be ticketed for...I just don't see the need for cops to be looking in our windows or collecting our breath, only observing our cars and if we are staying in the lane, driving a reasonable speed (70-75 highway, not the 55 bullsh*t), and not tailgating...and we're done.

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    Fair point, but (none / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:40:24 PM EST
    sometimes it's too late by the time a cop sees someone - like when they've crashed into a car and wiped out an entire family - all because they thought they could handle talking on the phone while driving.

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    Once upon a time (none / 0) (#40)
    by Steve M on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:28:02 PM EST
    I was pulled over for speeding on the Interstate, and I gave perhaps the worst excuse ever: "Sorry, officer, I was talking on my phone and didn't realize I was going so fast."

    I got off with a warning anyway.  Perhaps the cop was disarmed by my brutal honesty.  Either way, I probably should have bought a lottery ticket that day.

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    Best excuse ever (none / 0) (#41)
    by CST on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:38:25 PM EST
    I had just gotten home from driving all day, exhausted, to a house with no food.  My sister took pity on me and went out to buy some mac and cheese so I could eat before passing out.  When pulled over for speeding, she came up with "my sister is pregnant, and she really wants mac and cheese".  Officer told her it was the best excuse he'd ever heard, and let her off the hook.


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    Indeed (none / 0) (#50)
    by kaleidescope on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:00:57 PM EST
    Feed your head.