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Video Thwarts Officer's Attempt to Blame Victim Of His Own Brutality

Agnes Lawless was rear-ended while driving in northeast Philadelphia. Fortunately, the car that collided with hers was traveling slowly and did little damage. Unfortunately, the driver (who left without stopping) immediately drove to the police department, where he apparently told his father, Officer Alberto Lopez Sr., that it was Lawless who caused the collision. Officer Lopez, accompanied by his son, drove around in his patrol car until they spotted Lawless' car at a convenience store.

Lawless was standing at the counter of the store, at Comly Road and Roosevelt Boulevard, smiling and chatting with the clerk, when she was grabbed from behind and violently pushed back with a police officer's gun in her face.

"He hit me with his left hand, and he had his gun in his right hand," Lawless said. "He pushed his gun into the left side of my neck. It caused a scrape-type bruise on my neck." After a chaotic struggle, Lawless was arrested and charged with assaulting the officer.

Lawless spent the night in jail. [more ...]

Four days later, Lopez testified that Lawless "freaked out" and started punching and kicking him after he ordered her to the floor. On the basis of that testimony, a judge found probable cause for the charge against Lawless to proceed to trial.

While the witnesses in the convenience store (including her three friends who were also ordered to the ground for no apparent reason) would have supported Lawless' version of the encounter, juries tend to believe police officers. The charge against Lawless never made it to trial because four security cameras in the convenience store captured the incident. The photographic evidence contradicted Lopez' testimony.

The images show that when Officer Lopez entered the store, Lawless was at the counter, smiling and apparently unaware of his presence behind her. Lopez grabbed Lawless' neck from behind with his left hand, with his gun in his right hand. Lawless broke free and faced him.

"I was really confused," Lawless said in an interview. "I didn't know if we were getting robbed. I remember seeing his uniform on his arm, he swung me around and hit me with his arm. He hit me first with an open hand, then he hit me with his gun in the face."

The video shows Lopez's left arm extending toward Lawless' face, and then his right arm driving forcefully toward her, jamming the gun in her neck or jaw.

Internal Affairs investigators obtained the tapes a few days after the preliminary hearing. Shortly after that, Lopez was assigned to desk duty. Lopez, perhaps unwilling to perjure himself again, failed three times to appear at Lawless' trial. After the third time, the charges against her were dismissed. What prompted the prosecutors to keep the case alive that long is a mystery. Perhaps they didn't bother to review the tapes or to inquire about the progress of the Internal Affairs investigation.

The tapes would not have made it to the Internal Affairs investigators if Lopez and his friends had succeeded in their attempts to tamper with the evidence. After arresting Lawless, Lopez asked the store clerk to erase the security camera tapes, a request that was repeated by other officers who twice visited the store the next day. Those officers also asked the clerk to "help the cop out and testify for the cop." Remarkably, an Internal Affairs investigation found no misconduct on the part of those officers -- probably because their words weren't recorded.

Given the recordings of Lopez' aggressive behavior toward Lawless, however, the investigators were forced to conclude that Lawless was telling the truth. You might think that the unprovoked attack, the lies he told in his police report, and his perjury would have spelled the end of Lopez' career. Not so.

The District Attorney's Office reviewed the case and declined to prosecute Officer Lopez in December. Eight days later, he was reissued his weapon and returned to full duty.

Disciplinary charges against Lopez are pending. In the meantime, this hothead with a badge is carrying a gun in northeast Philadelphia.

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    Crazed gunman on the loose is right... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by kdog on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 07:59:06 AM EST
    Being assaulted is bad enough, when you are assaulted by an officer of the law it is ten times worse, as you know defending yourself, as is your inalienable right, only leads to more charges...a terrible place to find yourself.  And unless you happen to be on candid camera, you lose in the end everytime.

    These last 2 entries (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Carolyn in Baltimore on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 08:57:50 AM EST
    One where having cameras can save us against the powers that be, the other about the snooping and intrusion of recording devices by the very same powers!
    While dash cams can help us know the truth about how an arrest is made, recording our everyday moves (is it recording the doughnut stop too?) is clearly Big Brother.
    It's reallyy hard to know where the line should be - it keeps moving.

    When our daughter was assaulted (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:05:59 AM EST
    a few months back we found ourselves at a grocery store asking for their parking lot tapes.  It's a strange world.

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    Just more of the same (5.00 / 4) (#6)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:03:32 AM EST
    from law enforcement in this country. These guys are NEVER, NEVER, prosecuted. This cop should not be fired, should not be suspended, HE SHOULD CHARGED WITH BATTERY and sent to prison. Anyone who believes this is not a police state is either stupid or naive or both. It's cops like this is why Sagon Penn will always be my hero.

    His actions were in no way in the line of duty (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by ruffian on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:39:36 AM EST
    I agree, he should be charged with battery the same way any other gunman would be if he assaulted someone in a convenience store. Anything else is a policy of giving thugs a gun and a uniform and calling them police officers with a license to assault and kill.

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    In my city, she would be dead (none / 0) (#12)
    by Cream City on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:09:28 AM EST
    and yet, yes, the cops get off again and again.

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    Reminds me of the 60s button.... (5.00 / 0) (#20)
    by oldpro on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:23:20 PM EST
    "Draft cops.  They're already violent."  Validated in the early 70s movie "Serpico."

    Too many cops are certifiable a**holes (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by denise k on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:27:02 PM EST
    There are too many stories like this one.  Many cops let the power of their position go to their head.  I don't think it is inevitable, but these stories are common enough to make me think that lots of cops need serious anger management -- not to mention, prosecution.  This guy clearly assaulted this woman and should have been put in jail for that.  And for him and his fellow officers to tell the clerk to destroy the tape sounds an awful lot like obstruction of justice.  

    I have my own police misconduct story that I won't bore you with here, but before it happened to me, I held cops in pretty high esteem.  Now, I fear them.  Maybe that is what they are looking for?

    Stories like this (none / 0) (#27)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:05:25 PM EST
    are the number one reason to resist more gun control laws. I don't want guys like the one in the Lopez family to be the only ones armed.

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    I wouldn't try to shoot it out with the cops (none / 0) (#39)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 05:21:02 PM EST
    They will call in re-inforcements with helicopters, pronto.  They live for just a scenario.  Just ask Demcoratic Congressional canditate Francine Busby.

    Busby held a fundraiser in northern San Diego County at a private residence a couple of months back.  She used an amplified microphone but stopped speaking about 8:00 pm. or so.  But by then, a neighbor, who had been shouting anti-gay epithtets (the host of the fundraiser was apparently a lesbian) had called the police because of too much noise.

    The San Diego Sheriffs barged into the quiet party of middle age contributors, felt threatened, threw the host to the ground and called in SWAT and helicopter back-up--all without provocation.

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    There's actually a hero in this story: (5.00 / 3) (#24)
    by Jacob Freeze on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:52:39 PM EST
    The store clerk Ruiz apparently resisted a lot of intimidation to destroy evidence or give false testimony in favor of the police.

    It's sort of amazing under the circumstances, and it seems a little weird to me that the hero of this story is never identified except as "Ruiz the store clerk."

    Does anybody know his first name? I couldn't find it in the Inquirer.

    Carlos "Tito" Ruiz (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:02:56 PM EST
    Thanks! (none / 0) (#42)
    by Jacob Freeze on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 05:33:26 PM EST
    I probably could have googled it up for myself, but sometimes you just know that the first dozen search-terms you think of will be junk!

    Carlos "Tito" Ruiz!

    They should name a street after that guy in NE Philadelphia, or somewhere downtown!

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    Cops are cops because they like exercising (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:06:31 PM EST
    authority.  It's all about the power....

    I'd cut in half all police departments....Make them focus on real crime....

    I can agree there (none / 0) (#30)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:23:12 PM EST
    I have a hard time with both police and teachers claiming they are over-worked.

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    teachers? (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by CST on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:26:36 PM EST
    really?  You know some of them teach summer school too.  Not to mention the fact that if they are good at their jobs, they work waaaay more than 40 hrs a week during the year.  My sister is a teacher and she is definitely over-worked.  I know, I live with her.

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    I speak from local experience (none / 0) (#37)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 04:48:21 PM EST
    not from yours.

    My kids went to a public school in a district that thought it was pretty special. Elementary level teachers taught three subjects, and relief teachers came in for everything else. Parents had to volunteer time to watch the kids at recess and lunch. They would go out on strike claiming it was for reduced class sizes, but would sign the contract when they got the money demands and forgo the rest.

    I am well aware there are many good teachers, and, to be frank, I think you are ignorant, too.


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    What area are you from? (none / 0) (#40)
    by labor nrrd on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 05:22:30 PM EST
    It was my understanding that in most states it is illegal for public employees (i.e. teachers) to go on strike.  That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but even more unusual than most unions (and even then strikes only occur in three percent of contract negotiations)

    As for settling for money, I used to work as a field rep for a public employee union (cafe workers, janitors, support staff) and they would want to negotiate over working conditions issues similiar to class size and it was just impossible.  So, rather than assume the teachers are just cynical, it could just be that they couldn't get any traction.   Management gets in quite the huff when you start talking about things like class size, money is so much easier.  Public employees in Massachusetts, at least, have very little power.  Sure, you could engage in an illegal strike, but there are a ton of ramifications to the union that make it very difficult.

    As a current teacher, I don't work as hard as when I was a union organizer (90-100 hour week), but much more than when I was much higher paid "financial controller" in the private sector.  Lessons don't plan themselves, student work doesn't grade itself and I never have enough time to learn more about educational theory.

    As for parents, your school might be terrible, but it often thought to be a good idea to get parents into the school and involved, might be an attempt at that and not a labor saver.

    This is similar to my training as an organizer.  The job of an organizer is to get the workers to do it rather than you... This is not laziness, it is often easier to do things yourself than getting people to take ownership.  

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    It should be illegal to photograph police. (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by TheEvilOne on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:56:28 PM EST
    Obviously photographing or videoing police should be illegal.  The job of the police is to use arbitrary violence against civilians and the law will not function if the courts do not automatically believe the police in instead of a charged defendant. Obviously tapes such as the video in this case tarnish the reputation of the police and give judges and jurors reason to doubt them in general. This is not acceptable.

    The uncooperative store clerk is to blame.  He should have taken the helpful police advice and wiped the tapes. No doubt he will soon end up charged with a serious drug offense to ensure better behavior in future, that is if he has a future outside prison.

    The truth is that police need the discretion to use violence that a disinterested and unbiased observer would judge unacceptable.  Society cannot afford to punish them when they do so in situations where they are clearly in the wrong lest they become demotivated and unenthusiastic in performing their primary job of ethnic and social hygiene promotion by railroading poor people and blacks into prison on drug convictions which need not be  other than fraudulent (as in Tulia Texas in 1999 and 2000).

    TChris... (none / 0) (#2)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 08:31:41 AM EST
    ...thought you might find this of interest.

    Cop get inpatient at the McDonald's drive through, pulls gun at window to speed up his order.

    In addition to the menacing and weapons charges, Saunders also is charged with prohibited use of a weapon, reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct, the Aurora Police Department said Monday.
     

    Pretty safe to say he wasn't ordering a Happy Meal.  

    And this one... (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by kdog on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 08:50:53 AM EST
    Undercover cop kills a man who mistakes the undercover for a drug dealer and attempts to run him off his momma's stoop.
    Link

    Will we ever conquer our fears enough to say "no mas" to a police state?  


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    milehigh (none / 0) (#4)
    by DFLer on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 08:57:11 AM EST
    perhaps he should have gone to the outpatient MacDonalds :)

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    Indeed. (none / 0) (#7)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:04:23 AM EST
    And I clearly am in need of an additional infusion of caffeine.

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    Civil Damages? (none / 0) (#8)
    by daring grace on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:35:41 AM EST
    This says the victim (Lawless) may seek a settlement with the city or sue for damages otherwise.

    By the way, what the son actually reported to his dad was that Lawless and her friends got out of their car and came over to his and kicked the driver's side door, and made threatening comments:

    The officer's son, who was driving a Buick, said that the four occupants of the Mazda got out of the car, and that the driver and Lawless kicked his driver-side door while another man suggested that he had a gun and made a threatening remark.

    Lawless and the others denied they approached Lopez Jr.'s car.

    Internal Affairs said an officer later photographed the Buick and found it had dents in the door consistent with kicks.

    Not to suggest in any way that even if that account were true that it justifies Officer Lopez' rampage in the convenience store.


    Proving who made those dents (none / 0) (#10)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:39:40 AM EST
    Internal Affairs said an officer later photographed the Buick and found it had dents in the door consistent with kicks.

    would be really difficult considering the officers who went back to the store twice asking for the video to be erased.

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    Lots of Interesting Content (none / 0) (#13)
    by daring grace on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:16:24 AM EST
    in the Inky article:

    Drexel Law School professor Donald Tibbs said that video recordings are capturing more criminal activity and assisting prosecutions, but they're also monitoring police conduct."Police are now aware they're more accountable for their actions, because these tapes may be used against them in misconduct cases or civil-rights lawsuits," Tibbs said.

    Yeah, right.

    Ruiz, the Lukoil clerk, told investigators that after officers arrived following the altercation in the convenience store, he heard Officer Lopez give his son some instructions in Spanish, including, " 'Say he had a gun.' "

    Lopez Sr. and Jr. both denied that, saying that the younger Lopez speaks almost no Spanish.

    Ironically, Lopez Jr. had a .22-caliber Magnum revolver in his waistband during the accident and throughout the confrontation in the Lukoil, according to his statement to Internal Affairs. He had a permit to carry the weapon, he said in the statement.

    The driver of the Mazda, Stephen Soda, also had a handgun in his glove compartment along with his carry permit, according to police. Police reviewed the permit and released Soda without charges. Neither weapon was drawn in the incident.

    Officer Lopez said that Lawless "told me I was a Mexican, I was here illegally, and that I should go back to Mexico." Lopez Jr. said she was "calling my father a f---ing s--c, a Mexican."

    Lawless acknowledged in an interview that in her fury she "got racial."

    Which to me, makes her whole account more credible even without the videotape--acknowledging some negative behavior on her part.

    The District Attorney's Office reviewed the case and declined to prosecute Officer Lopez in December. Eight days later, he was reissued his weapon and returned to full duty.

    But he may yet face discipline from the Police Department.

    This, almost a year after the incident. Sounds to me like they're waiting out either a civil suit or to see if public outrage boils over. But, really, a year?

    Lawless attorney:

    "I'm troubled by the conduct of the officer, about his telling a story that lacks credibility, and about the fact he thought he could get away with it," Yatvin said.

    And, yet it looks like he is...

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    A cop named Lopez is a nativist (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Cream City on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 11:03:05 AM EST
    and assumes other Hispanics are illegals.  Aarrgghh.

    (Albeit this is an interesting example of exactly what some of us were saying in a debate here the other day about "why don't women support women," by a commenter saying that minorities support minorities.  Such simplistic statements simply cannot be made in this country.)

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    I think that's backwards (none / 0) (#19)
    by Steve M on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:21:43 PM EST
    the allegation, I think, is the cop's son claiming that the victim said those things to him.

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    You Put Your Finger (none / 0) (#33)
    by daring grace on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:34:40 PM EST
    on what intrigued me about this article and why I was drawn to excerpt it so much:

    I found the different narratives and perspectives very compelling and unusually counterintuitive in places--not to mention all the (legal) guns everyone seemed to have.

    The story still boils down to a cop unreasonably (and in my mind criminally) reacting to his son's perceived victimization. But the Inky's account provided more nuance and detail than I've usually seen and I found it all very rich, right down to the 23 mice and feces on the wall.

    I must also say I find Agnes Lawless a very credible witness in that she owns her own 'racial' comments made in the heat of the encounter with Officer Lopez, and unlike (I think) many of us she details the rodents as mice and not rats which I'd have seen them as if I'd gone through what she had.

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    "f---ing s--c" (none / 0) (#22)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:45:29 PM EST
    What's a "s--c?"

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    The letters you are looking for (none / 0) (#23)
    by Steve M on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 12:50:40 PM EST
    are P and I...

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    Ah. Thanks. (none / 0) (#26)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:04:59 PM EST
    It's been a long time since I've lived back east, it's not a word I've ever heard used out here in CA...

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    'could have ____ the officer in self defense...'? (none / 0) (#11)
    by unhhuh on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 09:50:40 AM EST
    I found an interesting question posed at "Glock Talk" while searching for further "Agnes Lawless" info.  Turned out to be a "googleism" .
    Hmmm...

    It's good the press gave it some attention, but... (none / 0) (#14)
    by roy on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:26:11 AM EST
    The article should call a cigar a cigar.  I'd say Lawless was not, in fact, arrested.  If the cop who says "you are under arrest" knows his victim has not committed a crime, then it is not an arrest.  It is a make-believe arrest; it is a facade on aggravated kidnapping.

    Mud pies are not pies, fool's gold is not gold, and Lawless was not arrested.

    Legal system (none / 0) (#15)
    by SDU Polticsdotcom on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:33:08 AM EST
    The legal system in the US is run by humans, therefore it can only be as just as those people who make up the system. That said, I would hope that the police force which Lopez was part of took the side of justice not of their fellow officer.

    -Politics.com Intern

    Cops lie for fellow cops. Period. (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 05:13:42 PM EST
    They lie.  They beat people up.  They sexually assault women in custody.  Very, very common.....

    To assume that cops will tell the truth if it is detrimental to another cop is not a real view of the world.

    In Orange County, California, the DA--the DA, the real DA, the head guy--said very publicly there is a code of silence that makes it impossible to prosecute the Orange County Sheriffs.  

    The DA was speaking about an incident where a man who was handcuffed in the back of a cruiser was repeatedly shot with a taser because he would not answer the deputies' questions (forget that Fifth Amendment stuff.)  An Internal Affairs investigation revealed the abuse (torture actually) with several deputies giving sworn statements in support of the prosecution, detailing among other things how the offending deputies would recount the story of how they tasered the victim and how he had writhed in agony--all in locker-room mockery.  At trial, the deputies all recanted their sworn statmenets, so the offending deputies were acquited.  And these deputies make over 100k. So, better pay won't solve the problem.

    The crimes committed by the cops often exceed the small potato stuff those who they arrest are charged with....I was astounded to see a trial calender littered with cases such as possession of drug paraphernalia--no, not drugs, just a pipe or bong, I guess.

    The damage done by the law-and-order crowd is outrageous....

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    Policing in Philly Has Been Shamelessly Abusive . (none / 0) (#16)
    by Doc Rock on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:43:50 AM EST
     . . . since the days of smash and crash Frank Rizzo!!!!

    Toward the end of the video he is holding one of Agnes' friends away with one hand while he bends over and fishes for something on the floor.

    After he stands up he then appears to put something in his waistband..

    More Than Rumor (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by daring grace on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:39:10 PM EST
    The inky article (7/20):

    Ironically, Lopez Jr. had a .22-caliber Magnum revolver in his waistband during the accident and throughout the confrontation in the Lukoil, according to his statement to Internal Affairs. He had a permit to carry the weapon, he said in the statement.



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    No contact for Mayor Nutter of Philly (none / 0) (#32)
    by nycvoter on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:32:53 PM EST
    I thought I might post a comment to the Mayor, saying "why should a cop like this be allowed on the Philadelphia Police force" but there isn't any way to contact them be email on their site.

    It would be great if the authors on this site also allowed for some action to be take by people who are inspired by their postings.  

    The answer (none / 0) (#35)
    by Steve M on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 01:53:00 PM EST
    is likely to be similar to the issue of how someone who tasers his stepson gets to be an Alaska State Trooper; to wit, there is generally a union grievance process and neither the mayor nor any other official has the authority to override the outcome.

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    The police unions are very, very powerful (none / 0) (#41)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 05:22:42 PM EST
    I thought unions (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 12:04:48 PM EST
    were un-American? Isnt that the wingnut, we love Sarah, talk radio meme?

    Every union except the (God bless and protect them), policemen's union, I guess.

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    I am not sure (none / 0) (#44)
    by JamesTX on Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 10:58:17 PM EST
    why we all find this state of affairs unusual or surprising. We had something called a conservative revolution which a vast majority of Americans apparently agreed with. Some of the tenets of that revolution were that authoritarianism was a desirable social policy, and that police officers should be given maximum authority in all situations, and that criminal procedure should be based on an assumption that police officers are always right in any situation, and that the role of the judiciary was to support the policies and decisions of law enforcement. Republicans backed up these sentiments with twenty years worth of statutory changes, and Republican judicial appointees solidified the case law. It doesn't take long for a professional group like the police and prosecutors to learn that their power is arbitrary and absolute. In fact, they now become irritated when citizens don't seem to recognize that assumption, and they often become violent and punish citizens for not recognizing their position of absolute authority.

    When you ask for something, you often get it. This is what America asked for, and they got it. If they are unhappy, then it shouldn't take more than 15-20 years of sustained political funding and effort to make an attempt at repairing the damage. But, like anything that is damaged, it will never be like it was again. We won't get everything we lost back.

    Exactly. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 11:35:16 AM EST
    Prior to "something called a conservative revolution" cops never did anything like this.

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    Maybe we should call it (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 11:59:12 AM EST
    the authoritarian revoloution, since this type of abuse of power has a long history of infecting both sides of the aisle.

    You dont see quite as much emotional idealization of the police as an entity-unto-themselves with left wing triumphs though -- generally the responce seems to be more of a fearful, acquiescent silence -- even if the results are, more-or-less, the same.

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    The conservative (1.00 / 1) (#49)
    by JamesTX on Thu Jul 23, 2009 at 03:41:30 AM EST
    revolution was an authoritarian revolution. I agree entirely. Perhaps I should capitalize the term -- make it a proper noun. The people who did it called it a "Conservative Revolution", and I am willing to let them keep the name they chose. I know it is not in line with the academic usage, but we all know what Liberal and Conservative means within the context of the last few decades of American history. I realize it isn't classical liberalism, etc. (although in some ways it is, when context is taken into account).

    I tend to think the results are not destined to be the same, although under current conditions they are practically the same. I had this discussion with someone recently on this list. I will try to find it.

    I think what masquerades as the left in this country is actually the same as the right -- if not actually the right in disguise. There really is no left anymore. Part of it is due to right wing covert ops, where the religious/political nuts actually take over social movements and defuse them, leaving their shell intact, in name only, for display purposes. But they entirely defuse their effectiveness in pursuing the cause. Nowadays, there are only authoritarians, because the "Conservative Movement" worked very hard on eliminating any alternative ways of reasoning from public discourse, making authoritarian reasoning the only possible policy for any social initiative.

    Genuine liberal ideas are nowhere to be found, and the left has been replaced by clones of the right who simply parrot ideas they picked up from revised history and implement those ideas in the fashion of Richard Nixon creating a new agency.

    We essentially have two poles, as I discussed before. We have Feminist authoritarianism, and White Male religious authoritarianism. They have a lot in common, and together they control everything between them. The only problem is, nothing is getting any better for the little people, because the left is fake. They aren't really trying to change anything.

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    I didn't say (none / 0) (#48)
    by JamesTX on Thu Jul 23, 2009 at 03:12:10 AM EST
    they didn't ever do it. Sure, some have always done it. The difference now is that they don't even have to hide it. The conservative revolution gave them all permission to do it. The frequency of the behavior will inevitably increase under those conditions.

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