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John C. Calhoun Lives! Pawlenty Threatens Nullification Of HCR

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:19:44 AM EST
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Tim Pawlenty looks like he is going to run for the Republican nomination for President. He is threatening nullification of health care reform:

Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN), a possible presidential candidate in 2012, is now indicating that he could invoke state sovereignty and prevent his home state of Minnesota from participating in a federal health care reform effort if one passes, Minnesota Public Radio reports.

"Depending on what the federal government comes out with here, asserting the 10th Amendment may be a viable option," Pawlenty said, when asked about it by a caller on a Republican Governors Association conference call. "But we don't know the details. As one of the other callers said, we can't get the President to outline what he does or doesn't support in any detail. So we'll have to see, I would have to say that it's a possibility."

Pawlenty does not need to wait for a health care reform bill to test nullification. He can have Minnesota try and opt out of Medicare and Medicaid. I wonder if Texas Governor Rick Perry will top Pawlenty and try it. BTW, this is insane of course. The Party of Lincoln indeed.

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    John C. Calhoun Lives! Pawlenty Threatens Nullification Of HCR | 22 comments (22 topical)

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    Your insurance cannot be cancelled if you get sick (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by steviez314 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:29:50 AM EST
    ..except in Minnesota, thanks to me.  Vote T'Paw '12.  

    Somehow that just doesn't seem like a winner to me.

    Good for him (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:38:54 AM EST
    It's Republican's like Pawlenty and Perry that may allow the Democrat's to maintain control in spite of themselves. Their deranged rantings only personify just how radical and out of touch the Republican party has become.

    Keep up the good work guys!

    amen (none / 0) (#6)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:44:22 AM EST
    we are going to need them to keep young and usually uninvolved people focused frightened and motivated.

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    Unless the Republicans have pursued (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:41:39 AM EST
    the Dems to remove the provision to expand Medicaid, less people in his state will be eligible for that program. The emergency rooms will have to continue to treat more people than other states. Should do great things for the cost of medical care in Minnesota.

    I thought this issue was settled (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Molly Bloom on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:48:08 AM EST
    As a Southernor, I thought the issue of states rights  was settled at the courthouse- the Appomattox Courthouse

    It's hard... (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 12:21:00 PM EST
    ...to pander to the GOP base when you've got to out-crazy the likes of Bachmann, Palin, Tancredo, et al.  

    Running for President (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by MKS on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 12:21:18 PM EST
    He has to appeal to the conservatives in Iowa....

    How odd--the more the Republicans lose, the more conservative they get....

    Strategy (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 12:50:20 PM EST
    I think that's because so many Democrat's are acting and talking like Republican's, Republican's feel they have to keep moving further off the deep end.

    Maybe the Blue Dogs really do have a strategy!

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    You beat me to that remark (none / 0) (#13)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 12:55:53 PM EST


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    In a decent and just world (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Socraticsilence on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 04:16:06 PM EST
    Pawlenty would have been shocked out his cut funding to the bone attitude after the bridge collapse in 2007, but in America in 2009 he can probably claim that it collapsed due to government interference rather than the policies of malign neglect.

    There are some some who call me...Tim (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:37:09 AM EST
    "I...am an enchanter."  --Monty Python

    Healthcare Pawlenty style (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Dadler on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:38:43 AM EST
    "Bring out yer dead!"

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    It is so bizarre (none / 0) (#7)
    by eric on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 11:46:45 AM EST
    the Republicans in this state used to be moderate.  They are all gone - the wingnuts have taken over.

    And so goes the nation <n/t> (none / 0) (#18)
    by FreakyBeaky on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 02:33:55 PM EST


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    its seems to be coming out (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 02:49:50 PM EST
    from first read:

    * The Elephant In The Room: At what point do what a bunch of folks in D.C. believe privately become more public -- that there is a dramatic divide between how people in the South view Obama versus the rest of the country? Sure, the South has always been more conservative and has been increasingly more Republican, so it shouldn't be a surprise this region is less open to a Democratic president's ideas; it's no different than folks in New York City and San Francisco not being open to a Republican president's proposals. But is it really the "D" next to Obama's name that has folks upset in the South? Yes, there was a "coastal" divide when it came to George W. Bush, and the election results of 2004, 2006, and 2008 proved that. But is it ALL just ideological? It's truly subjective... As defiant as some on the right are about the fact that this has nothing to do with race, there's an equal group of folks who believe it's ONLY grounded in race. Bottom line: Whether it's fair or not, there is a perception growing that race is driving some elements of the opposition to Obama. It probably means this tumult will only grow for the time being.

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    One of the few (none / 0) (#14)
    by Natal on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 01:04:15 PM EST
    Republicans appearing on her show. Puts him in a different category but maybe not better.

    Since the Left will vote for neither (none / 0) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 02:23:59 PM EST
    I'd say they don't care what you think.

    As for Repubs acting more like Demos... They just lost an election with a candidate who did that.

    Right or wrong I think next time the differences will be better defined.. Unless Obama moves so far back to the center that he comes out anti-choice.

    Back to the Center?! (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Molly Bloom on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 06:14:42 PM EST
    President Obama is at the center more or less. And being anti-choice is an exreme right wing position.

    And McCain ran on the extreme right with Palin. Minor detail I know.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#19)
    by Spamlet on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 02:47:16 PM EST
    McCain acted just like a Democrat. Must be why Obama is now adopting some of McCain's "good ideas" on health care.

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    Whatever (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 05:56:04 PM EST
    McCain lost a lot of Repub votes... they just stayed home... because he was way more to the Left than the base... Healh care?? Remember I'm pushing for a single payer plan. Obama is giving us Welfare for Insurance Corps.

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    darkangel, (none / 0) (#17)
    by cpinva on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 02:33:37 PM EST
    mussolini, tojo, hitler and stalin all seemed reasonable. dobson and his ilk, in interviews, all seem reasonable. the serial killer living next door to you seems reasonable (keeps his yard neat, always willing to lend a hand). heck, i'm sure satan seems reasonable, as he takes your soul for eternal damnation. probably sounds just like your attorney.

    that's the gift of the terminally, criminally insane: they all seem reasonable, while sawing your head off. all the while, you're telling yourself, "but he seems so reasonable.", just before your head falls to the floor.

    remember the great line from nuremburg: "the face of evil is banal."

    No worries (none / 0) (#23)
    by reslez on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 05:04:10 PM EST
    He's counting on the democratic state house and senate to overrule him. They have before.

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