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Posted on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 09:53:54 AM EST
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Fun fact of the day - Florida opened as a 28.5 point favorite over Tennessee for the Saturday game at The Swamp.

Second fun fact of the day - even Ezra Klein says "[a] solid 55 percent of the country supports 'having the government create a new health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans.' That supports jumps to 76 percent if the option is reserved for those unable to get health insurance now." (Emphasis supplied.) Can the Village (with an assist from the "progressive" blogosphere) really stymie 76% of Americans? Time will tell.

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    Lets give a big cheer for Moms (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by MO Blue on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:08:03 AM EST
    Kim Clijsters' woman final win at the U.S. Open is to be celebrated.

    Inspiring (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by Steve M on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:48:48 AM EST
    and that little girl is a real cutie.

    You know, the #1 student in my law school class, tops among some really smart people, was the mom of 3 school-age kids.  I asked her how she did it, considering the typical student has so many more hours in the day to study than she did.  She told me that kids take a lot of your time, but they also have a way of making you much more FOCUSED on whatever it is you need to do.  So true.

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    She probably didn't go out for (none / 0) (#92)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 03:05:26 AM EST
    intermural football either.  That is where the guys in my class spent there time.  

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    Yesterday was a tennis match (none / 0) (#60)
    by vml68 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:30:28 PM EST
    watching marathon for me....with a couple of driveby comments on TL. I missed the end of the Women's Final because I dozed off on the couch... :-(
    Really happy for Clijsters. I was rooting for her all the way.

    Looking forward to the Men's Final this evening.

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    Scarecrow (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by lilburro on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:37:10 AM EST
    over at FDL highlights some interesting stats on the public option.  For ex.:

    "Year after year, business leaders have watched health care costs consume a larger part of their budgets and our economy, and they want action," said Business Forward Executive Director Jim Doyle. "This poll reminds us why it is so important for business leaders, trade groups, regulators, Congress and the President to stay at the negotiating table." The poll, conducted by Anzalone Liszt Research in advance of President Obama's address to Congress, showed that 57% of business leaders believe health care reform should be an important government policy. They support key elements of a reform plan, including insurance exchange (78% favorable), efficiency reforms and an oversight commission (71%), requiring insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions (79%) and a public health option (51%).

    "At a time when many Americans are worried about partisanship on both sides, this support is significant, because it comes from a group -- business leaders -- that is disproportionately Republican," said Doyle.[emphasis supplied]
    Mandate (none / 0) (#32)
    by waldenpond on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:18:57 AM EST
    Many also support an individual mandate so they can get insurance off their bottom line.  They the insurance industry also support govt subsidies given to individuals so they can experience windfall profits.

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    I am not a fan of syringes (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by vml68 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:23:15 PM EST
    to begin with but the thought of a traffic cop drawing my blood really scares me.

    That is sick (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by waldenpond on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:30:52 PM EST
    I guess people have the option of the breathalizer but puncturing someone's arm? ...that is just sick.  I know people who pass out at the sight of a needle.

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    That would be me. (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by vml68 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:37:55 PM EST
    I know people who pass out at the sight of a needle.

    The last time I had to have a tetanus shot my blood pressure dropped so much, I had the doctor and nurse teasing me and asking me if I was alive because they had trouble finding a pulse!

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    We were comparing notes (none / 0) (#75)
    by Fabian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:21:55 PM EST
    at the Labor Day party and while the guys all had instances of passing out from sudden/unexpected pain, no women could say the same.  I think the genders are wired differently for some things.  I've fainted exactly once.

    Low BP can't be a reason.  When I first started giving blood, my BP and temp ran so low, they'd ask me if I was feeling all right.  Later when I found out about the statistical sampling used to actually determine normal ranges, it made more sense.  There's nothing wrong with being on either end of the range if you aren't passing out or stroking out.

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    I am an absolute wuss/chicken (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by vml68 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:43:56 PM EST
    when it comes to needles or the sight of blood (my own or any one else's!). I do the fainting bit quite well... :-)!

    I fainted during my first frog disection. Since then I have adjusted to the sight of blood with respect to animals but with people it is still a bit iffy. My mother (who is a nurse) was extremely disappointed because it put an end to my(her) ambition of being a doctor!

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    My problem (none / 0) (#89)
    by Fabian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 06:04:50 PM EST
    with blood and such isn't the actual blood.  It's the idea that there is an actual person involved.  It's why I would probably be fine with an autopsy, but might not be a good EMT.

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    I don't pass out... (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:25:30 PM EST
    ...but I get plenty aggitated.  Taken quite a lot of self-control to get over the instinct I had as a child to punch people who came at me with needles.  

    Somehow I don't think giving needles to a group that is already predisposed to having sadist tendencies is going to calm my deeply seated fears.  

    I guess they'll just taze me and then draw my blood.  

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    That is some... (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:32:32 PM EST
    ...really scary sh!t.

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    it really is (none / 0) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:16:27 PM EST
    It's all part of training he and a select cadre of officers in Idaho and Texas have received in recent months to draw blood from those suspected of drunken or drugged driving.

    one more reason to stay away.

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    My skin... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:27:27 PM EST
    is a firm line in the sand...I would resist, forcefully if necessary...no bullsh*t.

    And it looks like it would have to be resistance by force...this is gonna get people shot or tased.  From the article...

    They'll use force if they need to, such as getting help from another officer to pin down a suspect and potentially strap them down, Watson said.


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    who made that silly remark (none / 0) (#80)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 02:06:46 PM EST
    the other day about the police being out of control?

    I think it was me.


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    Cops are just glorified mercs.... (none / 0) (#82)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 02:20:08 PM EST
    its the federal and state legislatures that are totally f*ckin' outta control.

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    I think its interesting (none / 0) (#84)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 02:41:49 PM EST
    that its a federal program but its only happening in Idaho and Texas.  you know, the places where people are already used to having their rights trampled on.


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    We're all used to that:)... (none / 0) (#85)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 03:09:27 PM EST
    Idaho is a surprising choice with all the hardcore anti-state folks livin' there.

    Texas not so much...for all their talk of liberty and sovereignty, they love them some police state in Texas.

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    I would guess (none / 0) (#86)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 03:15:18 PM EST
    and would guess that the police have guessed that those most of those "anti state" folks in Idaho could give a damn about pot laws.


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    But they like their brews and spirits... (none / 0) (#87)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 03:40:41 PM EST
    and a lot of people are armed and might not take kindly to John Law sticking 'em with needles on the side of the road.

    Maybe thats why Idaho was chosen...if this garbage will fly there without a revolt, the tyrants are golden.  

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    that's humorous. (none / 0) (#90)
    by Fabian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 06:08:19 PM EST
    It can take as many as five adults to get a blood draw from a child who is non cooperative.   I'd refuse to draw blood from an uncooperative adult - it's an ideal situation for getting a needle stick.

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    Jeebus... (none / 0) (#83)
    by desertswine on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 02:36:19 PM EST
    Why the H don't they teach them something useful, like how to set a broken arm, or how to treat a diabetic instead of cr@p like this? Would that be too much to ask?

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    Uh Oh.... (5.00 / 3) (#68)
    by easilydistracted on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:38:45 PM EST
    Six days after drawing fire for not showing President Barack Obama's speech to schoolchildren, Arlington Superintendent Jerry McCullough announced Monday that he also will not be allowing 600 fifth-graders to attend a Super Bowl event next week featuring former President George W. Bush.

    I can't wait to read the letters to the editor for the next week.

    Fun fact of yesterday - (none / 0) (#1)
    by lilburro on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 09:59:01 AM EST
    EAGLES WON!!!!  Sucks that McNabb is injured though, but he always seems to be.  At least he'll be back soon.

    Kevin Drum (none / 0) (#3)
    by lilburro on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:10:33 AM EST
    misses the point about 76% though.

    The blogs are divided on math too apparently.

    The math issue IS wonky (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by cawaltz on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:37:33 AM EST
    because it doesn't take into account how many of the intitial 55% would rather jettison what they consider a half measure if the public option were to be watered down to only those who have no other option.

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    Pats game tonight (none / 0) (#4)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:12:47 AM EST
    very glad it's on the early side.  I desperately need to sleep.  But football > sleep.

    Also, ESPN now has a designated website that is ESPNBoston.  Awesome, but kinda confusing.  Does it have that for any other cities?

    Yeah... (none / 0) (#7)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:17:39 AM EST
    ...there's one for Chicago and LA that I know of.  Probably other city already out there or in the works.  

    A doubleheader tonight!  

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    doubleheader? (none / 0) (#10)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:24:37 AM EST
    who else is playing?

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    nevermind n/t (none / 0) (#12)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:25:38 AM EST


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    Raiders and Niners I believe (none / 0) (#13)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:25:49 AM EST


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    Raiders and Chargers (none / 0) (#15)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:27:14 AM EST


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    no way (none / 0) (#14)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:26:55 AM EST
    I can stay up for the late game.  I watched packers/bears last night and I deeply regret it today.

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    I had to laugh when I saw a game (none / 0) (#18)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:39:40 AM EST
    starting at 10:15ET! WTF?!

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    Well... (none / 0) (#22)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:48:59 AM EST
    ...not all of us are on EDT, you know!  

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    True! (none / 0) (#27)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:03:07 AM EST
    It was very hard for me to get used to MNF when I first moved here. OT games are just killer. I usually plan to work later if it's a game I want to watch and then just sleep in the next morn. Good thing I don't have a "day job", lol!~

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    I used to just stay up (none / 0) (#63)
    by CST on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:34:06 PM EST
    and deal with it.  I can't hang like I used to though.  I still try sometimes, but man do I pay for it.

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    You and me both (none / 0) (#64)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:35:32 PM EST
    in every way possible.

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    Yesterday's... (none / 0) (#5)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:15:04 AM EST
    ...Bronco's game was probably the most boring 59 minutes of football and the most exciting (and without a doubt, filled with blind luck) final 1 minute ever.  

    Almost as good was seeing Cutler throw 4 INT's and singlehandedly give the Packers a victory.

    Sigh...that hurt (none / 0) (#11)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:24:39 AM EST
    the Cutler part I mean...I'm not a happy Bears fan after staying up till midnite to see that.

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    Well... (none / 0) (#23)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:59:00 AM EST
    ...get used to the pain.  He's a gunslinger, you know--got to take the bad with the good.  Cutler has a tendency to wear down as the season progresses too.  

    It was a strange game all the way around.  Urlacher getting hurt (again), Coach doing some odd challenges, the snap to the upman on the punt...

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    Urlacher... (none / 0) (#43)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:37:17 AM EST
    ...out for the season.

    Have to wonder if Paris put a jinx on him or something.

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    Oh no, I had not heard that (none / 0) (#65)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:36:56 PM EST
    Horrible. It would have been nice to keep hope alive past Week 1 of the season.

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    HCR (none / 0) (#6)
    by bocajeff on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:15:17 AM EST
    My guess is that whatever we get from HCR will be like electing Pres. Obama. A lot of hope followed by a lot of regret. I've been hoping that I'm wrong about these policies for almost a year now...

    Broadway Joe's pep-talk... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:19:39 AM EST
    musta been something...Broadway Mark looked pretty damn good in his first start...bring on the Pats.

    And in toot my own horn news...took a kickoff to the house in Week One of the Kissena League...still got some shack and bake in my bag.  I love this game!

    Keep on shacking! (none / 0) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:08 AM EST
    Does that mean you had to buy the beer for everyone (like when you get a hole-in-one)?

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    I bring a... (none / 0) (#19)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:44:54 AM EST
    twelve-pack of Pabst or Schaeffer and a spliff to everygame...give the guys with families to support a break. I just wanna hang out after the games...their wives must hate me:)

    I've been playing in this league off and on since I was 16...I've never taken a kickoff back without any laterals before...I'm still beaming over it.  No easy task in touch football without blocking...I broke that cats ankles bro:)

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    You must have been... (none / 0) (#26)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:00:29 AM EST
    ...running like the po-po was hot on your tail!  

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    You betcha... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:08:08 AM EST
    nobody catches kdog from behind!

    Speaking of 5-0...it was an great weekend all around, my buddy turns me on to a poker game Friday night, I walk in to find everybody but me and my friend was a Suffolk County cop.  What a switch...me taking money from the SCPD instead of worrying about them bustin' down the door to the poker club...won 3 hundo and took Moms to Red Lobster on Sat.!

    Life is good, life is good...

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    Ah... (none / 0) (#38)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:27:38 AM EST
    ...such a good son!  

    Good that the 5-0 didn't shake you down to get their losses back after the game...

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    Very good... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:36:03 AM EST
    I was holding more than their money if you know what I mean:)

    I must say though for cops they were real sweethearts.

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    I'm impressed re: Sanchez (none / 0) (#16)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:34:01 AM EST
    He has a lot of positives. And seems very grounded and mature. Where the heck does he get all that energy though? He was still bouncing around like Tigger at the end if the game!

    I think our D is going to be pretty good this year. Ryan may just be the fix we need . . The Pats game should be interesting next week.

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    The D looks... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:48:26 AM EST
    very good, with Ellis coming back next week and Pace a few weeks after it should be even better.  I too was impressed with the poise of Sanchez.

    The big test is next week when the hated Pats come to town...we are talkin' about the Texans here:)

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    May have been the Texans (none / 0) (#25)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:00:16 AM EST
    but I think it was a good warm up for next week. Schaub musta been tired last night, lol!~ It was also a very loud stadium, until the fans turned on their team {grin}

    I drafted Sanchez in my fantasy league as we are thinking of doing a keeper league. I figured I may want him in the future ;)

    Are Ellis and Pace in practice?

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    I think they're allowed to practice... (none / 0) (#30)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:11:41 AM EST
    Ellis was suspended for week one due to his marijuana arrest last year, Pace for 4 games for a banned substance.

    I sure hope Sanchez is worth being a keeper, so far so good...remember though Browning Nagle lit it up in his first start too:)

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    I haven't put a lot of stock (none / 0) (#37)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:25:39 AM EST
    into rookie QBs over the years, but there's something about Sanchez that I think is worth keeping an eye on and a spot on my bench :) Unless I get beat down with injuries, I have enough flexibility even if I never start him.

    Totally forgot about Nagle, lol!~

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    New message (none / 0) (#20)
    by lentinel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:46:40 AM EST
    The New York Times, the newspaper of record, tells us that there is a new message from Bin Laden.

    It offers two phrases from this ten minute message. One stating that Obama is beholden to the same interests as his predecessor and so is captive to the continuing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    The second says that the US continues to aid Israel in occupying lands that rightfully belong to the Palestinians.

    Of the ten minute message, that's all the old Grey Lady sees fit to communicate.

    Personally, I would like to know what this guy is thinking about.
    But, hey, I'm just a citizen. It's good to keep me in the dark.
    You know, I don't need to know anything. I trust the government. They can figure out stuff.
    Anything good on TV tonight?

    BTD, over/under on Crompton (none / 0) (#24)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:59:22 AM EST
    interceptions Saturday? He had 2 against Western Kentucky, 3 (in a row!) against UCLA plus one in the end zone the officials ruled the guy dropped plus one called back for defensive offsides. So that was really 5. Not counting a few that should have been intercepted.

    I think we should put Eric Berry in as a receiver and tell Crompton to throw to Gator DB's and let Berry "intercept" a pass.

    Tennessee has a good defense but has no depth and since you guys will have the ball about 40 minutes, plus your defense will score, I would give the points.

    Florida's secondary is the best n the country (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:07:57 AM EST
    Tennessee's O-line looked vulnerable on the pass rush.

    I think Tennessee should punt on first down . . . I kid.

    Tennessee has to play smashmouth and run the ball all day. Even on 3rd and 10. Especially on 3rd and 10.

    I would not throw the ball 10 times if I was Tennessee.

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    lol, I wouldn't either! (none / 0) (#31)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:17:38 AM EST
    When you have two walk-ons on the offensive line starting, what do we expect? Excellent students and story, but that shows how far we dropped.

    We are #3 in recruiting for next year as of right now - we'll get you someday BTD! Two 5 stars and one 4 star just last night that were at that awful game Saturday. I think they all see early playing time.

    Of course, Crompton was the #2 quarterback in his class so who knows? Good kid, good student, great practice player but he panics or something in real games.

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    BTW (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:22:48 AM EST
    Florida has the #1 class.

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    And DuBose is (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:23:17 AM EST
    a medical redshirt.

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    Are you looking at Scout or Rivals? (none / 0) (#47)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:47:28 AM EST
    On Scout, UT is #3 and you guys are #7. Is Rivals better? They've got you 5 and us 7. Both are updated as of today.

    Oklahoma, Texas and LSU seem to be doing best so far. I know things don't always work out the way these rankings do. I just want a quarterback who will throw it to the team in orange, not to the other team or the ground.

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    See (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:51:32 AM EST
    here.

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    Hey now, that is as of 8-7. Lots of changes (none / 0) (#51)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:57:17 AM EST
    since then. I don't doubt you guys will rise to the top, though. The rich get richer.

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:06:46 PM EST
    the prpoblem with Rivals and others is their total points system, which is ridiculous until the end of the process.

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    It will be a different coach though (none / 0) (#33)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:22:18 AM EST
    Lane Kiflin is a disaster.

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    You think he only gets one year?? (none / 0) (#39)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:29:33 AM EST
    I like him BTD. I don't know yet if he can coach. You know I was a Fulmer fan and didn't want him fired but Kiffin won me over.

    I know he acted like an as* during the first few months but look at all the attention UT got. He is actually a very quiet man. He must get his personality from his mother because he is nothing like his dad. He's a hoot.

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    3 and out (none / 0) (#54)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:08:07 PM EST
    overall record 11-25. No winning seasons.

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    I can accept 3 years to see what he can do. (none / 0) (#58)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:22:24 PM EST
    He can recruit, you have to admit that. I don't hold the Raiders against him (yet). Crazy owner and he was too young to be given the job to begin with.

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    too young for the Tennessee job (none / 0) (#66)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:37:01 PM EST
    which is a HUGE job.

    You could have done A LOT better.

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    In fact (none / 0) (#69)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:38:53 PM EST
    It is clear Kiffin never understood what big program Tennessee is. It did not need his shenanigans to get attention.

    Tennessee just needs to win and they will be back on top.

    My gawd, the guy acted like Tennessee was Rutgers or something.

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    Ok, that made me laugh. (none / 0) (#72)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:49:02 PM EST


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    Probably true, too. (none / 0) (#71)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:48:17 PM EST
    I hope his assistants help bring him along some. The players love him. I know no matter how far behind they get, they won't quit this time. Their butts will be benched if they do.

    I don't know who else they could have gotten. The guy at Washington? The only other names I heard were the guy at Cincinnati and whats his name at Texas Tech. And Butch Davis at NC who isn't any step up from Fulmer in my opinion. Maybe they should have done this a few years earlier and got Saban before Bama did.

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    He lost me on those two (none / 0) (#91)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 10:49:56 PM EST
    last plays when we were on the march.... No QB keeper/bootleg...no sweep... no pass... just two line bucks... that's as dumb as dirt and Kiffin as much as admitted it... Plus, you can beat up on Crompton but his receivers did him no favors..

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    Yes. Be patient. Michigan finally (none / 0) (#93)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 03:14:58 AM EST
    beat Notre Dame, and after only one season of Rodriguez.

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    Good to see... (5.00 / 3) (#36)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:25:23 AM EST
    ...you back T!

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    Thank you - I'm here, just not typing much (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:34:35 AM EST
    with all this back stuff going on. It makes my arms go numb. I had to show up for Florida week so BTD doesn't think I'm chicken!

    So far, on our message boards, we'd be happy to settle for a 28 point loss. :)

    I see your Hawkeyes are 2-0. Not bad so far.

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    So far... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:42:36 AM EST
    ...but we've got a tough Arizona squad this Saturday and then travel to Happy Valley to face Penn State to open Big Ten play.  A daunting task--I won't be surprised of we're sitting at .500 after those games.

    Is the back getting any better?  

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    No, unfortuately it probably won't. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:54:06 AM EST
    I've got spinal stenosis (narrowing of spinal cord) in 16 discs. 3 are so bad it has fractured the bones. I need a new spine! With junk insurance, I'm doomed. At least I can watch football with my heating pad.

    Plus Kdog would be jealous of my drugs. :)

    I will be pulling for your Hawkeyes. I actually rooted for Michigan Saturday to shut up Lou Holtz and the other ND worshippers.

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    Jealous of more than the scripts... (5.00 / 3) (#52)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:59:14 AM EST
    I'm jealous of and admire your grit, you must be one tough cookie T...feel as well as possible and keep fighting the good fight!

    Your comments have been missed:)

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    You're so sweet kdog. You still make (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:14:32 PM EST
    me laugh.

    I don't have any comments suitable for Jeralyn when if comes to this health care argument! I'm pretty disgusted with all of them supposedly on our side.

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    Takes sweet to know sweet kid:).... (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:12:19 PM EST
    There is no one on our side in the healthcare debate but us...if it ever comes time for you to get shady you can have my insurance card if it'll help.

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    Oh... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:12:49 PM EST
    ...I'm so sorry to hear that.  Wish there was something I could do for you--aside for rooting extra hard for UT this weekend!  I'm sure a win over the Gators would be of some comfort...  

    Keep your spirits up and keep fighting!  

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    I'm actually fine. I know what I can and can't (none / 0) (#57)
    by Teresa on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:19:26 PM EST
    do so I can handle it.

    MileHi, just pull for us to stay within 25 points. I'd settle for that right now. I feel bad for Jon Crompton but I've truly never seen a worse quarterback in an actual game. We only have one real backup and two different sets of coaches have chosen Crompton so Stevens must not be so hot either.

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    Will do! (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 01:35:15 PM EST
    Rooting against Florida is as natural as breathing...

    It's early yet.  Our "experienced" QB hasn't looked at all comfortable in the first two games.  Heck, the same fans that helped run-off our old QB are now wishing he would come back.  Thankfully we have a pretty decent defense to save our bacon.  

    Glad to hear you're adjusting.  That's about all we can do sometimes--know our limitations, play the card we're dealt and try to live life the best we can.  

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    President speaking (none / 0) (#40)
    by waldenpond on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:31:41 AM EST
    in the fiscal crisis.  Find it difficult to take these discussions seriously knowing an increasing market 'innovation' is to bundle and sell off insurance policies.  How does one bundle health insurance along with life insurance?

    If I heard correctly (5.00 / 3) (#46)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 11:43:17 AM EST
    local news said he "carved out time" to lunch with B Clinton today. Perhaps BC can bend his ear a bit on some of these issues . . .

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    Not sure, but (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 12:38:57 PM EST
    I bet it causes a big conflict of interest for the death panels.

    How does one bundle health insurance along with life insurance?


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    all in the wording (none / 0) (#81)
    by diogenes on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 02:10:36 PM EST
    The government can just create non-profit coops, NOT a public plan.  Maybe the 76% of people support that.  

    Maryland DA may prosecute (none / 0) (#88)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 04:04:29 PM EST
    the ACORN videotapers.

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