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Manuel Zelaya is leaving Honduras for the Dominican Republic next week. Which put me in my mind of my friend Al Giordano to see what his reaction would be. Nothing on Zelaya, but I did find Al doing his best Lanny Davis/Al From imitation. The funny thing is all the Poutrage Al complains about is coming from his buddies the Village bloggers. They are the ones going Nader.

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    Obama Puts Social Security on the Chopping Block (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Dan the Man on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 09:39:17 AM EST
    From Yves Smith

    "Under the agreement, President Obama would issue an executive order to create an 18-member panel that would be granted broad authority to propose changes in the tax code and in the massive federal entitlement programs -- including Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security"
    "The commission would deliver its recommendations after this fall's congressional elections"
    "But if the commission approves a deficit-reduction plan, Congress would have to act on it quickly under the agreement, forged late Tuesday in a meeting with Vice President Biden, White House budget director Peter R. Orszag, and Democratic lawmakers led by Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.), House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (Md.)."

    I hope to dog the congressional leaders (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by ruffian on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:07:22 AM EST
    were crossing their fingers behind their backs when they agreed to that. Sounds like a total abdication of authority and responsibility. I can't believe they will actually feel themselves bound. You can bet the Republicans do not.

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    wow (none / 0) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 09:59:20 AM EST
    Brilliant! Too bad I only have one vote (none / 0) (#28)
    by Cream City on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 01:11:04 PM EST
    as I now am in so many groups that have been dissed by Obama that I want as many votes as a Chicagoan gets -- so that I can vote against him and the Dems a dozen times.

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    The Commission to Gut Social Security (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Anne on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 09:50:34 AM EST
    and Medicare?.  

    I would very much like to see some front-page posting and analysis of this (the bold is mine):

    Hope for lasting liberal change was washed away on Tuesday--not just with the loss of the Democrats' super-majority in the Senate, but with a closed-door deal that would lead to cuts in bedrock liberal programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. While Massachusetts voters were casting their ballots to install Republican Scott Brown in Ted Kennedy's Senate seat, President Obama was hammering out an agreement with Democratic leaders to support a commission on the deficit with the power to propose reductions to entitlement programs. This proposal represents a capitulation to conservatives in both parties, and leaves liberals surrendering not only on health care, but on the core achievements of the New Deal and the Great Society

    [snip]

    The deal is based on a rickety interpretation of the country's basic laws governing taxation. Normally, any change in taxes must be passed first by the House, with legislation wending its way through the Ways and Means Committee up to the floor. But the proposed arrangement shortcuts--indeed appears to bypass--this procedure. The appointed commission is to make a recommendation on the budget after the November midterm elections. That recommendation will then go straight to the floor of both houses for an up or down binding vote. There are no congressional hearings and no opportunity for members of the House to weigh in on the proposals. To rub salt in the wound, this plan was largely crafted not by members of the House, but by vice president and former Delaware senator Joe Biden along with two senators: Kent Conrad, the North Dakota Democrat once considered heir to the Great Plains progressive tradition, and Republican Judd Gregg from New Hampshire.

    I don't know who these people are, but they are not Democrats.  And if that's what they're calling themselves, then I guess I can't call myself one anymore.

    And what part of "we're sick of the secrets, the lies, the backroom deals, the closed-door meetings, the executive orders,making the illegal legal" did these people not understand?  

    Why is no one speaking up against this within the Democratic caucus - are they really on board with it, or just resigned to it as a fait accompli?l


    Social Security was my #1 reason (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by observed on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:18:43 AM EST
    to oppose Obama, by far. I thought it was crystal clear that he was ideologically opposed to both it and Medicare; furthermore, his talk of finding bipartisan solutions to THOSE issues could not be misinterpreted.

    Dont' worry though. Josh Marshall will be all over this one.

    What a facking undemocratic way to go about it too.

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    Sounds like (none / 0) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:03:51 AM EST
    an "Only Nixon Could Go to China" good Republican idea.  Of course, in that case we know that it was true because if any Democrat ever tried that same thing, that individual would have been branded a commie pinko and run out of town on a rail--by Nixon.  But, the Medicare part of this scheme is somewhat baffling, since both the House and Senate bills are already poised for its evisceration. Maybe, just a back-up.

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    Nah its Welfare Reform 2.0 (none / 0) (#12)
    by Socraticsilence on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:31:56 AM EST
    This is a page right out of the Clinton Playbook- fail at Healthcare Reform take out your frustration on the back of the indigent- this time its the Elderly in the 90s it was the Poor.

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    Well, Social Security and Medicare (none / 0) (#24)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 12:09:48 PM EST
    are not welfare--but they are those pesky entitlements. And, they only affect those who are old timers and those who aspire to live long enough to become an old timer.

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    Learning from GWB's SocSecPalooza tour ... (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ellie on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:32:26 PM EST
    ... that so enraged people against the plan to gut it, Dems were forced to find the spine, publicly anyways, and protect this legacy.

    Inviting the rats into the seed corn by the back door seems to be the only lesson these Dems learned from that GOP policy disaster.

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    I think we all need this (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 01:51:37 PM EST
    Filibuster reform headed to Senate floor (none / 0) (#3)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 09:52:08 AM EST
    Tom Harkin is going to introduce legislation that will take away the minority's filibuster power.

    Harkin's bill would still allow senators to delay legislation, but ultimately would give the majority the power to move past a filibuster with a simple majority vote.

    His staff said the bill would be introduced sometime before the Senate's current work period ends on Feb. 13.

    Democratic leadership aides say Harkin's bill is unlikely to succeed and that the idea hasn't been seriously considered in light of Brown's victory.

    "In light of the fact that it takes 67 votes to change the Senate rules, it does not look likely that a rule change would happen anytime soon," said a senior aide.

    Although, according to Harry Reid, in his book (Harry Reid wrote a book????), this could make andgrden's dream come true:

    Under Harkin's bill, which is co-sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), 60 votes would still be necessary to cut off debate on an initial procedural motion. If senators failed to reach 60 votes, a second vote would be possible two days later that would require only 57 votes to cut off debate. If that also failed, a third vote two days after that would require 54 votes to end debate. A fourth vote after two more days would require just 51 votes.

    Reid shot down the option in his 2008 book The Good Fight. Recalling the "nuclear option" debate in 2005, Reid compared lowering the filibuster threshold to "opening Pandora's Box."

    "It was just a matter of time before a Senate leader who couldn't get his way on something moved to eliminate the filibuster for regular business," Reid wrote. "And that, simply put, would be the end of the United States Senate ... A filibuster is the minority's way of not allowing the majority to shut off debate, and without robust debate, the Senate is crippled."




    this sounds good (none / 0) (#5)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:00:54 AM EST
    until we are in the minority.

    surely it is not hard for anyone to imagine that happening fairly soon.

    I wish it could be somehow "mended not ended"

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    Yep (none / 0) (#11)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:23:52 AM EST
    This is something that always sounds good when you are in the majority, but the pendulum always swings back the other way....

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    But (5.00 / 3) (#16)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:55:06 AM EST
    The Republican party is DEAD -- DEAD, I tell you!

    So sayeth the Dems, oh, about a month or two ago.

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    It sounds good even if we are in the minority (none / 0) (#22)
    by FreakyBeaky on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:59:49 AM EST
    We either believe in democracy or we do not.  

    Besides, if we should put Republicans back in control so soon after they have run the country into the ground, we should get what we deserve.

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    lol (none / 0) (#7)
    by ruffian on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:04:06 AM EST
     
    A filibuster is the minority's way of not allowing the majority to shut off debate, and without robust debate, the Senate is crippled."

    Yes, the filibuster has really allowed some wonderful robust debates in the last few years. All they use it for is to place a hold on bills, not to debate. Just a ridiculous argument. May have been true at one point, but not anymore.

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    I agree (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:22:34 AM EST
    One one of these bills, Harry Reid should have said, "Ok - go ahead. Filibuster."  Then see how long it lasts when the public gets wind that the Republicans are blocking a bill and wasting time and (taxpayer) money by reading the phone book from the Senate floor.

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    Andgarden can correct me on (none / 0) (#13)
    by observed on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:32:00 AM EST
    this if I"m wrong, but I thought that the old-fashioned filibuster was taken out of the rules some time back. Today, a filibuster is just done by mutual consent. Making the opposition read the phone book would be better than the current system.

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    Yes, I believe so (none / 0) (#15)
    by ruffian on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:36:12 AM EST
    If Harkin is proposing rules changes, he should start with revoking that one.

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    Opening Pandora's Box (none / 0) (#20)
    by FreakyBeaky on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:55:11 AM EST
    I don't recall a fury named Democracy being in that box ...

    The end of the Senate.  Sounds good to me.

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    White House iPhone App (none / 0) (#14)
    by ruffian on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 10:35:17 AM EST
    the White House just released an iPhone app that is a nice little portal on the whitehouse.gov information - press releases, news, videos, photos, etc.

    It's free - well, you already paid for it with your tax dollars. May as well use it.

    OK, let the tomato-throwing begin!

    Since we haven't had any Palin stories lately (none / 0) (#17)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:15:58 AM EST
    Bristol Palin tells Levi Johnston to pony up.

    (CNN) - Bristol Palin is demanding Levi Johnston start paying up.

    According to court documents filed Thursday in Alaska and posted on the Web site TMZ, the 19 year-old daughter of Sarah Palin is demanding the father of her one year-old son pay $1,750 a month in child support payments.

    Palin is also seeking back payments beginning from late December 2008, when the child was born.

    According to the court filing, Palin says Johnston made "in excess of 105,000 in 2009 through various media interviews and modeling related activities."

    Palin also says she has received only "sporadic financial assistance" from Johnston over the last year - $4,400 in total.

    Johnston's manager contends Palin has been paid more than $10,000 by Johnston since her son was born, according to TMZ.

    Bristol Palin's lawyer could not immediately be reached for comment.



    All I can say is... (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:59:26 AM EST
    that poor poor poor child.  It's like being born on the set of "Days of Our Lives".

    That and I sure did hit the mom and dad lottery...thanks and praises.

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    See, we CAN agree on something! (none / 0) (#26)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 12:42:15 PM EST
    That baby is sure going to have some challenges....

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    Having a dead beat dad is hard on (none / 0) (#32)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:05:30 PM EST
    all children subjected to that behavior - it's isn't a problem only for the infamous. Chances are the hype and interest in Bristol and Levi will be gone long before the baby is old enough to read the blogs and tabloids.


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    Hold up... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:27:26 PM EST
    Of course, every man should support pay their kids room and board and be all the things a father should be...but if the Palins are gonna play games with visitation and sh*t, I can't say I blame Levi for not cutting Bristol a check...especially considering all the money Grandma Palin is raking in now.  The kid is being provided for....were not talking about some single mom on food stamps here.

    Moms can't just demand a check and f*ck around with visitation...thats wrong.  The check is part of being a father...but the emotional stuff is important too.  

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    I agree it's wrong to defy (none / 0) (#41)
    by Cream City on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:54:51 PM EST
    the rules re visitation, but it's a far larger wrong to defy the rules re child support.

    And if he really wants the court on his side to enforce visitation, he ought to clean up his act on this.  The courts generally are not at all pleased by your quid pro quo.

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    Family court... (none / 0) (#43)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:13:58 PM EST
    is often unfair to fathers.  Another sector where "equality under the law" is lacking.

    But you're right...there is no excuse for not living up to your fatherly responsibilities, be they monetary or emotional...even if your baby's mama is acting like a witch.  I can just understand how its hard to cut a check made out to the baby's mama in a situation where she won't let you see your flesh and blood without a babysitter.

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    Yeah, he worked so d@mn hard for that (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:34:23 PM EST
    money. Made it directly off the backs of the Palins . . .

    just sayin'.

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    Not for nothin'... (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:46:18 PM EST
    The Palins dragged him onstage for the big VP candidate unveiling...I don't think he asked for any of this, just didn't wanna be the only one not to get paid.

    Just sayin':)

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    He could have said no :) (none / 0) (#51)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:51:31 PM EST
    and at the time, he was marrying into the family.
    I actually could give 2 hoots about the dude, but I think he has little room to whine and showed really poor judgment making money by trashing his son's grandparents and mom nationally.

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    Now (none / 0) (#47)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:43:27 PM EST
    You are assuming Bristol is being a witch?  Based on what?

    Levi, on the other hand, has certainly proven himself to be quite the tool.

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    Actually... (none / 0) (#63)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 05:30:59 PM EST
    thinking of my friend's ex.  On the re-read I see it came out wrong.  I got a little hot and ahead of myself, I'm gonna shut-up now:)

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    Sounds like something you heard from (none / 0) (#48)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:44:06 PM EST
    some fathers who don't see how they could possibly be expected to give up their hard earned money to their children.

    There is a percentage of fathers who have to deal with a really bitter ex-wife, and it is a real problem. Generally, it is the party that got dumped that plays the game of punishment, though.

    Believe me, kdog, the custodial parent needs a break from being both parents 24/7 and very few play games with visitation even when support doesn't show up regularly. You do know that they are not an exchange program, don't you? Child support is not payment for visitation and vice versa.


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    Couldn't be more wrong Inspector.... (none / 0) (#52)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:59:26 PM EST
    My bias, if any, comes from a good friend who cuts his child support checks like clockwork, yet his ex does everything in her power to keep his daughter away from him...moved hundreds of miles away, shacked up with some loser, all of 'em are living on his checks.  He has fought for custody and failed.  He is literally a broken man.

    It may not be the norm...but thats where I'm comin' from.  

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    If he's paying enough for 2 adults (none / 0) (#54)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:32:00 PM EST
    and 1 child to live off of, he may want to see if he can renegotiate his payment through the courts. Or were you exaggerating?

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    True, I don't know all the details... (none / 0) (#58)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:42:24 PM EST
    I just know this dude she's shacked up with never seems to have no job, and he eats and has a place to live, according to my buddy...he could be gettin' public assistance or something, I try not to pry for obvious reasons. But when we tie one on together he can't help but talk about it, usually ending in tears.  My heart aches for him.

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    My sincere sympathies (none / 0) (#56)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:36:11 PM EST
    for what your friend has and is dealing with. For every divorced couple, there's a different set of circumstances.

    But, for someone who so consistently says people should not be caged, you've pigeon-holed a few people in this situation without actually knowing the facts.

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    Judging without knowing the facts? (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:41:34 PM EST
    Just like this...

    Levi seems more interested in chasing fame, and I don't believe for one second anyone is refusing to allow him to see his son.


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    I just heard on KPBS California Report (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 08:57:22 PM EST
    Levi cut an ad for California pistachios.  

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    Not bad... (none / 0) (#65)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 09:46:57 PM EST
    ...for a HS drop-out from the backwoods of Alaska.

    It's funny that he's painted as a scum of the Earth dead-beat Dad around here, but if he tries to make some money he's a "tool" who dares to tarnish the holy Palin legacy.  

    Ah, misandry...

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    My sympathies... (none / 0) (#60)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:53:30 PM EST
    for your troubles as well, I'm well aware there are far too many fathers not being fathers...it is a disgrace.

    Criticism taken too...I took your comment and applied it to my friend and my experience in these matters.  You mighta done a 'lil of the same.  No hard feelings pal:)

    None of us know whats really goin' on here with Bristol and Levi.  

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    You are trusting that he is being denied (none / 0) (#44)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:15:57 PM EST
    visitation because Levi said so? Interesting. I don't find him credible.

    My kids had a support paying dead beat dad who would go 18-24 months between visits. Believe me, that's every bit as awful for a kid to deal with. Levi seems more interested in chasing fame, and I don't believe for one second anyone is refusing to allow him to see his son.


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    I find none of them credible... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:37:20 PM EST
    I might be thinking of the story that came out where the Palins were not allowing visitation w/ Grandma Johnston unless it was supervised because she had a record...striked me as the Palins being major-league arseholes.

    Both sides are probably quilty of using the poor kid as a pawn in their Hatfield/McCoy thang...always a shame.

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    As I recall, Ms. Palin requested the (none / 0) (#50)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 03:48:29 PM EST
    court order supervised visitation w/paternal grandmdother, not solely based on her criminal conviction, but also on the allegation of prescription drug addiction making her unstable.

    Also, as far as I know, any visitation/child support so far is based on voluntary informal agreement, not court order.

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    Ameica's "gayest" city (none / 0) (#18)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:21:34 AM EST
    Guesses, anyone?

    I bet it's not what you're thinking....

    I lived there for two years (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 11:30:03 AM EST
    that must be what put them over the top

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    My guess would have been P-town, (none / 0) (#29)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 01:16:48 PM EST
    followed by New Orleans...

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    Not sure (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 01:31:55 PM EST
    P-town qualifies as a city.

    Otherwise, I am 100% confident it would crush Atlanta.

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    No wonder I have 284 msgs from West Holly (none / 0) (#59)
    by Ellie on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:52:28 PM EST
    A good 5 or 6 more than usual.

    I was wondering what today's drama was.

    :-) oo|oooo  [/pearlclutch]

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    Not enough pom poms at Big (none / 0) (#23)
    by observed on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 12:09:42 PM EST
    Orange Tent, so Dengre is leaving.

    From the other side, the odious Bob Johnson had a wreck diary in which he gives up on Obama.

    I must speculate whether Bob Johnson (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 12:36:47 PM EST
    will now be as cruel  re Obama as he was re Hillary Clinton.

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    Out of Control Cops... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 12:44:59 PM EST
    all over the local papers today...the sodomy of Mr. Mineo opening arguments and the old "he sodomized himself defense", and the vicious NYPD beatdown of chained humans caught on tape.

    Too bad all the big settlements these victims will score don't come directly out of the police budget...thats the only was I see things ever possibly changing round this town.

    At least the DA decided the prosecute the Mineo sodomy...take what we can get.

    I assume Kern (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:29:42 PM EST
    is the one with the tattoos on his neck.

    notice how he could look down a 1 inch pipe with both eyes?


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    oops (none / 0) (#62)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 05:16:41 PM EST
    reset
    the one with the tattoos is the victim
    the one that looks 13 years old is the one charged.

    sorry tattoo boy.


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    plus (none / 0) (#39)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:39:03 PM EST
    he sodomized himself?
    damn
    he should give master classes.

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    That was a jaw dropper for me (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:45:24 PM EST
    when they showed the attorney explaining that one on the news. You see, it was because his hands were cuffed behind him or some such thing . . .

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    Hep C scrub tech's... (none / 0) (#33)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:09:29 PM EST
    ...plea bargin rejected.  

    Parker, 26, had previously pleaded guilty to charges of tampering with and stealing drugs meant for surgery patients and prosecutors had recommended a 20-year prison sentence.

    But Blackburn said he didn't feel the plea deal adequately reflected the impact felt by the victims in the case, who have now contracted the chronic disease hepatitis C. He also complained that the deal did not give him enough discretion in sentencing Parker.




    seems fair to me (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:13:12 PM EST
    A hepatitis C infection she contracted from using heroin caused her to spread the infectious disease to at least 15 surgical patients at Rose.


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    Bart Stupak secretly wishes he had (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:19:00 PM EST
    has very own sports blog:

    On health care, Stupak said the leadership erred by proposing a massive package when a smaller, more targeted bill would have been far preferable. "They tried to hit a home run with health care instead of hitting -- let's get a single, let's get a double. You know, build on this. But they went for the whole grand slam and it got thrown back. It got too big, too controversial, and it's just like they overreached."


    I read yesterday (none / 0) (#36)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:21:57 PM EST
    that the "imcrementalism" of Clinton derided for so long by the Obama white house is starting to look not so bad.


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    I know one of his staffers (none / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 02:57:33 PM EST
    Should I have her invite him to Sports Left?

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    Thanks Capt Howdy (none / 0) (#53)
    by DancingOpossum on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:17:41 PM EST
    for the nom-nom diversion.

    Speaking of out of control cops, here's a news flash from a local character:

    BALTIMORE -- A police lieutenant who has served nearly three decades on the Anne Arundel County force has been charged with child pornography.

    According to court documents, James Cifala, 47, exchanged sexually explicit picture messages -- a practice known as "sexting" -- with a 16-year-old girl.

    http://www.wbaltv.com/news/22306899/detail.html


    its (none / 0) (#61)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 04:59:21 PM EST
    my job

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    Please tell me... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Sat Jan 23, 2010 at 08:32:35 AM EST
    dirty old cop wasn't assigned to the sex crimes division...please.

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