Of course, the Helots always vastly out-numbered the Spartans.  You need a lot of servants to keep a self-indulgent military class operational.  

The Spartans would occasionally declare war on the Helots, so they could kill them with impunity.

There were some Helot revolts, but surprisingly few.  Most historians feel the lack of revolts was due to the fact that Sparta featured lush farmlands.  And if the Helots stayed out of the Spartans ways and followed the rules, they could have relatively pleasant lives.

"in ancient sparta the winner was decided by who shouted loudest.  fortunately we are not in ancient sparta."  

The closest western historical example of free public nudity was ancient Sparta, a society with rigorous codes of training and physical exercise, yet also having art and music. Spartan women wore briefer clothing than other Greek women, yet they sometimes dispensed with these garments and went nude in the town if they wished. (Customarily, they and other Greek men and women were nude at festivals of the Classical period). In Spartan society naked women or men in the city would probably have been treated with the same respect as clothed people.

The freeze, which must be approved by Congress, would be the first two-year halt to federal raises in modern history. With health insurance premiums for civil servants set to jump 7.2 percent on average next year and a federal transit subsidy to be cut by half Dec. 31, the plan will amount to a pay cut for many workers. WaPo

Maybe we should go after the teachers next.  You know there are some that make over $100,000 after 25 years.  Let's change that to $50,000 and see where it gets us.

Do you really think that a middle class government worker who earns $75,000 is doing so well?  Cut their salaries and they will cut their spending and that will have a downward effect on economic growth while the fat cats on Wall Street are still raking in their million dollar bonuses for losing trillions of dollars.

The problem is there is nobody with a brain to talk today, like the person to whom I am responding.  You cannot gouge out the foundation of America and expect the building to remain standing.  Like I predicted many times before, we are going in a direction where will will have a tiny % as the extremely wealthy, 80% poverty and all the rest will be police officers keeping down the rebellions and revolutions.

Obama is exactly what he portrayed himself to be before the election.  He loved Reagan and put Clinton and Bush in the same hole.  He didn't like the baby boomers who had a memory and instead was able to militarize the stupid children who knew nothing.

On the Dailykos, you have to sign in blood that you will not criticize Obama because he is all we have and that nobody is listening anyway.  Well, if nobody is listening, why not blast him for the stupid things he does?  They did it with John Kerry too.  Kerry came on there a few times to read their remarks about his campaign.  I blasted him for his Stan Laurel approach to politics and all the rest thanked him like they are thanking Obama now.

We need stimulus real bad and Obama is not giving it to us.  On the contrary he is taking all of it away and making the Treasury less able to invest in America.  Somebody has to invigorate spending and it's been clearly shown that the Bush tax cuts or even the Reagan tax cuts de-stimulates.  Remember how Bush 41 lost a second term because the Reagan tax cuts dug us in a hole which meant more Wall Street activity but less spending by the American marketplace...so even with the high amt of capital available and incredibly low interest rates, there was no investment in economic activity.