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TPM Opposing Pelosi For Dem Leader?

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:02:17 PM EST
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So many questions:

So Many Questions

TPM Reader EA:

I don't get why Democrats would want to maintain the same leadership personalities in the House. Don't people all around the country really really hate Nancy Pelosi and probably James Clyburn too? Don't we have any 'young guns' to showcase over the next couple of years? Doesn't an even more 'liberal' minority leadership structure only increase the likelihood we'll see the dreaded triangulation from the President? [. . .] What's the strategy here? Is it more about convention and entitlement than strategy?

(Emphasis supplied.) Interesting. Though there clearly is one easy answer on the "triangulation" question - if the President is going to triangulate, better that he triangulate against a more progressive position in the House Dem caucus, than against a "moderate" position in the House Dem caucus. But I do find the anti-Pelosi TPM position quite fascinating. I wonder what that's about.

Update: TPM posts a counterpoint. Maybe they don't oppose Pelosi after all. Or maybe they don't want to appear to be opposing her. In any event, strange stuff.

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    Great point in response (5.00 / 0) (#1)
    by ruffian on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:06:02 PM EST
    How well has it worked out for Democrats to have conservative Dems from vulnerable districts serving as Senate leader? How did it work out for Tom Daschle? How about Harry Reid? Being the leader of the Democrats in Congress puts a political target on one's back, and "conservative" Democrats in vulnerable districts are the first and easiest targets. Replace Pelosi with a conservadem like Heath Schuler, and the Republicans will focus all their attention on a (probably successful) attempt to unseat him. Further, in the process of trying to retain his seat, he will drag the Democratic caucus further to the right, which....
    Where's that from? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:10:56 PM EST


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    Never mind. Found it. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:15:17 PM EST


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    The first post was made by David Kurtz (none / 0) (#24)
    by magster on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:58:18 PM EST
    and the response by Josh Marshall.  

    That may be a possible reason for the contradictory points.. maybe Kurtz is a BlueDog.

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    Not quite (none / 0) (#31)
    by MO Blue on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 07:28:25 PM EST
    The first post was from TPM Reader EA. The second was from TPM reader CS. David Kurtz put both readers comments up for discussion.

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    I actually (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:07:09 PM EST
    don't think Pelosi should be replaced because "people around the country" hate her because some of these people will hate anybody with a D by their name. I do agree, however, that it is time for new leadership. Someone who was not around in the 80's and not one of Rahm's "bush democrats" who were so cowed by the GOP for the last 10 years. Someone who can articulate and relate to the working class voters out there. I don't know who this is though and Clyburn really isn't a good choice either.

    If I could think of a better choice I'd put it out (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by ruffian on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:20:31 PM EST
    there too, but I can't. And she has already been so demonized - why give them a new target?

    She says she wants to fight for social security and medicare, and I believe she will oppose most spending cuts. I think she is the most liberal leader they are likely to select.

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    Do you (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 04:17:20 PM EST
    think she will break with Obama? I think her problem has been that she has been giving Obama everything he wanted instead of standing up for issues.

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    Actually, Pelosi gets a lot of cover (none / 0) (#37)
    by christinep on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 09:23:39 PM EST
    from the WH. I support her, because she is the most capable, strongest, most experienced, etc....she can and will have the media attention necessary to counter Boehner...she more than knows the ropes; she knows how to get the job done (a particular reason she is so vilified by the Repubs.)  Also: Consider that the first two years of this Administration have seen a resurgence of power in the Legislative Branch of government. The WH essentially acknowledged that necessity in view of the many crises confronting them as soon as they set foot in the place.

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    I agree, Speaker Pelosi (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 04:06:56 PM EST
    has had a difficult task of organizing and leading the politically diverse Democratic egos. During 2008 and 2010 she  often seemed torn between support