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    24/7/364... (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:42:57 AM EST
    does anybody know which day the DHS takes off, so we know which day is safest for our dignity to travel?  

    The non-bedwetters would like to know!

    Best line of the day (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:38:44 PM EST
    My sisters are currently sitting at National Airport (I refuse to call it "Reagan National") waiting for their plane home.  One is complaining that they got there super early and now they are sitting around waiting.  The other's response?

    (said with snark)

    How was I supposed to know that security would be deserted?  Never in my life have I been through screening this quickly!!  Don't these people know that we are at war!!

    When I asked if she'd been groped, she replied:

    Not at all.  They barely glanced at us.  Terrible security!

    I mentioned that TODAY might be the day they are taking off.

    Sorry everybody if you aren't traveling today - you missed their day off!

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    You mean they're... (none / 0) (#136)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:08:24 PM EST
    taking the "Reagan" seriously over at National?

    The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the
    government and I'm here to help.'

    Even a blind squirrel...

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    Besides... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48:49 AM EST
    the air is old hat, the new threat is the salad bar/buffet...lets see how they respond to this one...salad bar/buffet prohibition?  FDA goons groping ya on the buffet line?  Undercover busers at the Golden Corral?

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    I can see it all now (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:24:30 AM EST
    "Step away from the fried chicken, sir."  "Drop the radish, ma'am.  I said drop it!"      ;-)

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    Isn't this what the feds do? (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:29:03 AM EST
    Routinely raise the threat level, "we have a credible source".
    Let us know how safe they are keeping us while stealing our liberty in the name of national security.

    And I was gonna eat at the Golden Corral for lunch today, thanks alot. :)
     

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    "We have nothing to fear... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:31:28 AM EST
    but the Golden Corral itself"...or something like that:)

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    Christmas Day, isn't it? (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:51:32 AM EST
    That's the day the Undewear Bomber "allegedly" tried to blow up a Detroit-bound plane.

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    Couldn't be... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:55:00 AM EST
    Christmas Day should be doubletime, or at least time and a half...TSA agents ain't takin' that day off.

    I'm thinking its gotta be some random summer Tuesday when they play collective hooky.

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    Someone did last year (none / 0) (#21)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:33:14 AM EST
    Maybe in Amsterdam... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:47:55 AM EST
    but not in the TSA.

    Not that I expect the Dutch or anybody to know what is in everybody's underwear in the unfriendly skies at any given time...talk about unreal expectations.

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    in January. Let me know if they take that day off in January!

    I need that link for the xray proof underwear again. :)

    Don't touch my junk bro!

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    You're in some luck bro... (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:38:52 AM EST
    NY airports are as lax as any in the nation, or so I hear...you're junk should be safe on this end...though I guess it boils down to luck of the draw on any given day.

    Let me know if you have a long layover...best pizza in NY just a hop/skip/jumo from Laguardia.

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    When I get my itinerary I should know (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:04:15 PM EST
    Now I need some warmer clothes. Me and cold weather don't mix. But my mother lives right outside Boston, so I should get to see her and on the company dime.


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    Hey. Didn't I just tell y'all I was (none / 0) (#123)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:25:43 PM EST
    scatter-scanned/wanded AND patted down at JFK?  Didn't see anything like that happening at Lindbergh Field.

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    That's just because... (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:01:28 PM EST
    they got wind of your itinerary...you're suspect now kid:)

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    The thought crossed my mind. Guilt by (5.00 / 1) (#134)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:02:55 PM EST
    assoc.

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    Sounds like, oculus, you might want to join (none / 0) (#141)
    by caseyOR on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:37:30 PM EST
    the pirate crew. I mean, if you're already a marked woman and all. Sail the warmer of the seven seas in the company of kdog and jeffinalabama and, if she's willing a certain M.D. of kdog's acquaintance. Oh, yeah, I'll be your captain.

    Good company, good food, good drink. Just as soon as the lads secure a sea-worthy vessel.


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    Twould be fun until the firing commences. (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:57:59 PM EST
    Will you be needing a classical musicisian and/or a retired lawyer?  Maybe the latter!

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    Oh my, I don't anticipate actual (5.00 / 2) (#145)
    by caseyOR on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 07:09:01 PM EST
    gunplay or gunfire or gun anything, really.

    Music, on the other hand, is always welcome, be it classical, rock, folk, jazz, country, etc.

    I, myself, am hoping to master the harmonica.

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    My New Year's resolution: learn to play (none / 0) (#146)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 07:36:15 PM EST
    the sitar.

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    Me either... (none / 0) (#149)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 09:23:15 AM EST
    we need guns?  I was hoping we could go retro...cutlasses, daggers, bows and arrows...for self-defense purposes only.

    We'll be outgunned, but armed with righteousness:)

    A lawyer, otoh...we'll definitely be needing one of those!

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    Although I am morally opposed to (none / 0) (#144)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 07:03:22 PM EST
    the activities of the Somalian pirates.  Yes, I know "some" excuse their actions.

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    I love dogs (5.00 / 0) (#76)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:10:12 PM EST
    but you knew that.

    Injured dog's selflessness draws tears

    and she is so beautiful.  she looks like one of mine.

    and

    video of the lunar eclipse

    Drew a tear... (none / 0) (#87)
    by sj on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:36:00 PM EST
    ... to my eye, too.

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    it makes me a little sad (none / 0) (#89)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:38:45 PM EST
    that my Daisy (who could be a twin) was spayed. I think she would have been a awsum mom.


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    Not me so much (none / 0) (#94)
    by sj on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:07:45 PM EST
    I think my little Chow would have been an awesome Mom, too.  In fact, she went into heat the week after I took her off the street which necessitated immediate intervention.

    But there is no way I could keep her AND her litter.  And letting them go one by one would have felt a little like dying in increments :)

    I kinda get attached.

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    And spaying your dog, means (5.00 / 2) (#113)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:28:28 PM EST
    more shelter dogs will get a chance...

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    and there is that (none / 0) (#114)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:31:59 PM EST
    still.  I look in Daisys eyes and it makes me a little sad that she can never be a mom.

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    I get it. I do (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by sj on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:19:58 PM EST
    I totally believe in spaying our pets, but every now and then when I see how protective AND playful AND nurturing AND communicative she is, I imagine her with a litter of puppies.  Just for a tiny little moment.

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    there is that (none / 0) (#95)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:10:32 PM EST
    Did I miss discussion here of VP Biden's (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:00:10 PM EST
    statement aQ Pakistan/Afghanistan no longer has the capability of pulling off devastation similar to 9/11?  If that's correct, what is the justification for NATO/U.S. military operating at the current time in either country?  NYT

    Go back (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:04:27 PM EST
    to the first post on Sunday morning to see what was mentioned.

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    Pretty much a non-event re TalkLeft. (none / 0) (#140)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:23:43 PM EST
    Surprising.

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    Antonyms for "lame" (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 09:49:25 AM EST
    per webster

    the admirable duck session?

    the commendable duck session?

    the creditable duck session?

    the laudable duck session?

    the meritorious duck session?

    the praiseworthy duck session?

    I'm a little partial to (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Anne on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:03:08 PM EST
    the F**k-A-Duck session, myself.

    Us being the "ducks" in question, of course.

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    How about (none / 0) (#3)
    by lilburro on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 09:58:18 AM EST
    "it's all well but for the domestic hell" duck session?

    DADT and START will be great victories but the tax cut deal is very, very ominous.

    Esp due to Obama not changing the narrative and Social Security trial balloons.


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    not so worried about SS (none / 0) (#5)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:00:37 AM EST
    I dont think O wants to go down in history as the dem president who gutted SS

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    Not even waiting until Feb. to (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by MO Blue on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:25:26 PM EST
    get the Cat Food Commission's recommendations back on the table.

    Senators Mark Warner and Saxby Chambliss have re-animated the Catfood Commission, and plan to introduce a bill based on its recommendations in the next Congress.

       Two senators pledged on Monday to offer bipartisan legislation next year that reflected proposals to slash the federal budget deficit submitted this month by a presidential commission.

        "Taking the commission's report ... we'll be introducing that as legislation, a legislative vehicle, next year, recognizing in the process that a lot of that would be subject to change," Democratic Senator Mark Warner said.


    ...
    Hilariously, Warner and Chambliss, who want to bring forward a plan that cuts the budget deficit by $4 trillion over the next ten years, just both voted for a tax cut bill that, if the Bush tax rates are continued into perpetuity... add $4 trillion to the budget over the next ten years. This is why I thought that the tax cut deal had to be looked at as a whole. You could have basically eliminated the need for this Warner-Chambliss clown show simply by doing nothing. Link

    BTW, the gutting of SS will be sold as "saving SS and the U.S. economy." Obama will definitely use the bully pulpit to sell this idea and take down any dissenters. Also, the corporate owned media has been seriously selling the cuts for at least a year.

     

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    I do (none / 0) (#12)
    by sj on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:04:07 AM EST
    God help me, I hope I'm wrong.  But I do think exactly that.

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    I think that is right (none / 0) (#28)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:51:31 AM EST
    It appears that Obama will go to the center on taxes.....Some big announcement on taxes during the State of the Union....

    It won't be good.  But I think he will want to be post-partisan and propose a new tax code that will not cut Social Security benefits.  The plan will be horrid, of course, for the reasons articulated here and elsewhere....

    But I am hoping the damage will be limited to tax rates.....

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    dont really (none / 0) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 09:58:37 AM EST
    roll off the tounge

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    Maybe some alliteration, rhyme (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:55:40 AM EST
    the Lucky Ducky session.

    The Same ol' Lame Duck session.

    The Dead Duck session.

    The Laughably Lame Duck session.

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    See Cap'n, I told you DADT would be (none / 0) (#23)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:36:28 AM EST
    repealed.

    It is a big deal.  History.  It will be remembered for years to come.  Decades.  Just like Truman integrating the armed forces.

    It will very much discourage the religious right....They will slowly dissolve as an organized political force.

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    I agree (5.00 / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:34:01 PM EST
    that it is a watershed for gay rights.  it will defang arguments against gay equality across the board.  but it galls me a little that congress will get the credit.  IMO the main reason it passed is because it was becoming clear that the courts would do it if they did not.  not that much courage involved. but whatever.  I will take it.  and in the end a congressional repeal will go down better with the haters.  that is to say they will still  hate it but it will be harder for them to condemn it.

    I am gratified that it appears that I will live long enough to see this and national gay marriage.
    there were many times I did not think I would live to see either of those things.

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    I understand (none / 0) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:38:33 PM EST
    what you're saying about not seeing any of this. After 2004 and the massive gay bashing gay blaming campaign of George W. Bush, I figured it would be literally decades before any of this happened. I'm sure it will still be decades in GA but even GA is going to have to figure out a way to deal with gay marriage because it is legal in some states.

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    gay marriage (none / 0) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:46:09 PM EST
    I totally believe it will be legal nationally when the Boise/Olsen lawsuit gets to the SC.


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    The repeal of DADT could (none / 0) (#61)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:26:04 PM EST
    be very perusausive for Justice Kennedy.  

    The repeal of DADT makes gay marriage look more mainstream.

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    absolutely (none / 0) (#62)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:27:37 PM EST
    Rich Lowry (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 09:58:09 AM EST
    Republican opposition to New START is collapsing. One Senate source just told me the vote for ratification could go as high as 75.

    The list grows (none / 0) (#6)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:21:50 AM EST
    "I am convinced that Americans are safer and more secure with the New START treaty than without it."

    --Lamar Alexander

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    letting cash strapped families (none / 0) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 10:31:45 AM EST
    eat dirt for christmas is one thing.  they would totally have done that.  

    letting a treaty die that every unelected republican said needed to pass is another.

    this was always going to happen.

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    Current GOP on board (none / 0) (#14)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:10:08 AM EST
    for START...I think:

    Isakson
    Brown
    Gregg
    Lugar
    Voinovich
    Snowe
    Collins
    Alexander
    Bennett
    Corker

    That's more than necessary.

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    Will Manchin have another engagement (none / 0) (#30)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:56:57 AM EST
    this time too?

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    I believe (none / 0) (#31)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:02:22 PM EST
    Only Wyden won't be there but that means only 66 votes will be needed to ratify.

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    I thought it meant (none / 0) (#45)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:47:37 PM EST
    67 was needed if he wasnt there?

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    2/3rds (none / 0) (#54)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:18:19 PM EST
    of 99 is 66. I believe it's votes of those present, but welcome correction if my treaty knowledge is lacking.

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    you are probably right (none / 0) (#55)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:20:00 PM EST
    I just thought I heard this morning that if he didnt make it 67 would be required.  

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    Add (none / 0) (#57)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:22:00 PM EST
    Murkowski which probably makes it at least 68 votes and another Lame Duck session victory.

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    I think once passage is (none / 0) (#59)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:25:44 PM EST
    obvious there will be many get on the train.  Lowry said 75.  wouldnt surprise me if it was higher than that

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    It's terrible to gloat (none / 0) (#67)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:50:32 PM EST
    but one of the great things here is McCain thought his vote would be needed and wanted to add an amendment to get on board with his vote. Without the need for his vote, I suspect he'll look for the closest camera after ratification and suggest that implementation of this treaty is terrible. He's consistently against the grain when he can't toot his own horn.

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    67-28 (none / 0) (#106)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:58:14 PM EST
    For Cloture on START.

    Ratification vote will be tomorrow.

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    The Census hits (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:06:26 AM EST
    Anyone can now see that the House is too small.

    NY loses two seats--again. Michigan only one. Texas gains four, Florida two, CA zero.

    They are moving south (none / 0) (#17)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:29:44 AM EST
    To very red states.

    Gerrymandering is gonna be interesting!

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    Texas will be interesting (none / 0) (#26)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:47:24 AM EST
    The GOP gains in Texas this year were impressively wide but not all that deep.

    In the biggest GOP wave in a long time, Rick Perry won re-election by 13 points--Jerry Brown's margin of victory in California.

    Half the kids enrolled in public school in Texas are Latino.  Half.

    Texas is on the verge of turning.  It may take another decade.  But it looks like it will happen.

    California used to be Republican state.  Reagan.  Bush, Sr. won it.  And we used to have GOP Governors.  The state legislature was held by the GOP in the early 90s.

    Now, a local t.v. newscast last night said LA county is 49% Latino and 9% African American.  After figuring in Asians, Caucasians are not going to break 40%.  Whites are a minority in LA.

    Demographics explain much.....Texas will turn.

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    You assume, of course (none / 0) (#35)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:15:03 PM EST
    that most Hispanics in Texas will vote for the Democrats. You could be right, in the future, but as early as last February, more than half considered themselved conservative.

    Now, Perry lost Hispanics to White, but I think it's a mistake to assume that most (or all) Hispanics will automatically pull the lever for the "D".

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    Well (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:20:32 PM EST
    they might consider themselves "conservative" in the old sense of the word but I'm willing to bet that they aren't in agreement with the current GOP and it's policies.

    I know people who call themselves "conservative" but don't even know what it means.

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#37)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:28:58 PM EST
    But the same could be said about "liberal".

    Many of the Hispanics are devout Catholics.  They may not like the immigration stance of the Republicans, but many of them agree on things like abortion and gay marriage.

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    Well (none / 0) (#39)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:35:15 PM EST
    the majority of African Americans are against gay marriage and abortion too. Apparently Hispanics don't really vote on social issues either or the GOP would always be winning in Hispanic districts.

    Hispanics have been used by the GOP as a boogie man just like they have used gays and African Americans in the past. It seems the only people that the GOP attracts with their anti abortion and anti gay marriage stances are white evangelicals and mostly elderly evangelicals at that.

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    Prop 8 in California (none / 0) (#43)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:41:23 PM EST
    And I haven't seen anything that had many AA's consider themselves "conservative".

    I don't think they are necessarily comparable.

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    Well (none / 0) (#117)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:38:52 PM EST
    that's pretty much what I'm saying when I say people don't even know what conservative means.

    I'm willing to bet that a lot of Hispanics call themselves conservatives even though they don't agree with the GOP on much just as many AA's may call themselves liberal but in reality are conservative in their social beliefs.

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    So very true (none / 0) (#47)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:53:55 PM EST
    You can chart it out here in California.  Imperial County is a good gauge.  Heavily Latino right on the border.

    It voted in favor of conservative abortion initiatives and Prop 8 but always heavily for the Democratic candidate....

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    A recent poll showed (none / 0) (#50)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:57:43 PM EST
    that Latinos are "green".  By 2-1 they support environmental causes/regulation.

    There was some musing whether that was because of an inherent support of environmental issues, or just acceptance of the Democratic position.

    Latinos in California vote very heavily for the Democratic candicate.  A generic Democratic candidate starts out with a 15% lead here--just by having a "D" by their name.

    Texas are not so different.

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    Catholic (none / 0) (#52)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:08:52 PM EST
    Yes, generally true....But many are also Evangelical....

    But Catholic doctrine is also about caring for the poor, and the GOP does not do that.....

    African Americans used to vote for Republicans.  Ike got a lot of African Americans to vote for him.  Then came Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

    Every year, the GOP says with more outreach, etc., they will erode the Democrats' margin with African Americans.  It hasn't happened yet.  The Dems still get 90%.

    Latinos are a natural Democratic constituency.  For all sorts of reasons beyond just the GOP's ham-handed bigotry.  (This is one of the reasons Republicans often oppose immigration reform--they don't want to create more voters for the Democrats.)  

    Bush, Jr., remember, was for immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship and compassionate conservatism.....All that has been abandoned.

    The Latino vote bailed out Harry Reid and Bennet.  Right now, and for the forseeable future, Latinos (no, not everyone, but a two-to-one majority) are a reliable Democratic vote.
     

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    I agree (none / 0) (#88)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:38:30 PM EST
    that Latinos seem to be a "natural Democratic constituency," with the exception of Cuban-Americans, who vote heavily Republican.  Of course, they are just a small part of the Latino vote over-all (except in Florida).

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    The split is about 2-1 (none / 0) (#46)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:51:47 PM EST
    Bush got somewhere between 41-44%.  McCain got under 30%.

    The GOP can't help itself.  They bash Latinos at every turn.  Sure, if the GOP did not do that, they would do better.

    But, on the whole, Latinos are more populist when it comes to economics.  That is true in South America and Mexico, as it is in the U.S.

    With some more Lationo bashing, the Democratic share of the vote could easily near 70%.  

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    No kidding, Perry lost the Latino vote (none / 0) (#58)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:23:41 PM EST
    He got 38% of it.  In a Republican year....  

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    That's a regression from W's numbers (none / 0) (#64)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:34:00 PM EST
    both when he ran for Presidency and for Governor of Texas....

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    Not monolithic (none / 0) (#60)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:25:57 PM EST
    Hispanics are more conservative on social issues.  Once the tax structure is flattened, there is one less Dem talking point for latinos to buy into.  The Dems will take action on ed too.  That could be another Dem position proven false.  If Obama wins another term, he could completely wipe out the fallacy of the Dem platform.

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    Not always so (none / 0) (#63)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:30:18 PM EST
    Abortion and gay marraige are making their way through parts of Latin America.....

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    And Michigan (none / 0) (#19)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:32:47 AM EST
    was the only state to "lose population" - 0.6%

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    Three cheers for Judge Baird... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:36:08 AM EST
    nice to hear of a judge who takes the presumption of innocence seriously, and doesn't use bail and/or pre-trial detention as punishment prior to conviction, like too many hard-arse judges.

    Saved at least one guy a few months cage time for charges that were later dropped, by releasing him r.o.r...as it should be.

    Keep up the good work Judge Baird, pay the haters no mind.

    I suck... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 11:44:11 AM EST
    wrong link, see here.

    The Wapo link regards the TSA burning 30 million of our dollars.

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    Man you have all of the good stories (none / 0) (#42)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:41:07 PM EST
    Too bad he is leaving office.

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    What a quaint (none / 0) (#91)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:47:31 PM EST
    notion in today's America- an actual "presumption of innocence"!  Too bad more judges, as well as prosecutors (and, for that matter, police) don't operate on the presumption of innocence.

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    Wow (1.00 / 0) (#99)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:42:18 PM EST
    Just wow.

    No basis in fact, of course, but it makes good copy around here.

    Wow.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#139)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:16:07 PM EST
    I thought we were pretty far up there if not number 1 in punitive bail, prosecutions, and jailing the most people in the world.  Are you basing numbers per judge or something?  You have to account for differences in legal systems, but I haven't seen many stats that don't put us in the top in all categories.   If you ever come across any, I would be interested.

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    I think (none / 0) (#34)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:04:35 PM EST
    you sell way too many judges and prosecutors short. There are many, many defendants who get on ROR, or get probation - it seems your perception is that everyone goes to jail.

    I worked for a state circuit court judge (meaning she had felony criminal cases) as a court clerk. The judge was tough but fair.  Most defendants who came before her got out either on ROR pre-trial or on probation at the time of sentencing. The ones that didn't were habitual offenders and / or accused of violent crimes.

    She would try to "scare straight" many of the ones she knew wouldn't be back - usually those caught with drugs, or my, favorite - three teenage boys who stole a Salvation Army truck because they thought it would be cool.  Usually she'd let them sit there through the entire criminal call, watching and waiting as the more hardened defendants came up from the jail and had their proceedings taken care of.  You could tell by the looks on their faces that they started to get the message that they might be joining the bunch going downstairs in handcuffs with the deputy.  

    When their case was called, they would try to apologize, as their defense attorney prepped them to do.  She would tell them, "Don't apologize to me - it doesn't matter to me.  The person (people) you need to apologize to is (are) sitting in the back of the courtroom."  They then figured out that she wanted them to apologize to their parents, which they then would do.  Then she would give them probation with a "hope you learned your lesson" statement and a chance for a complete expungement from their record.

    She wasn't unusual in that courthouse in a county outside of Detroit.  That's how most of the judges were (and still are).

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    I think you sell too many long.... (5.00 / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:38:56 PM EST
    Judge Baird seems to be taking some heat...if he was the norm and not the exception the cage happy judges would get the heat...no?

    Not to say my personal experiences aren't possibly clouding my perspective...you're talking to a guy who was chained to a bench for hours because I didn't have a measley $50 bail on me at time of arrest...finally the man ror'd me, I think just to avoid more paperwork or having to work overtime...like a game of chicken, and I won...only because I'd be damned is I was gonna bother any friends or family to drive me $50 bucks in the middle of the night.  Honestly I think the cop was just trying to be a power-trippin' d*ck.

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    The stats are not available. (none / 0) (#125)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:37:45 PM EST
    as to how Judge Baird's release on own recognizance defendants performed.  

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    We haven't discussed... (none / 0) (#48)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:55:04 PM EST
    Rep. Peter King and his crusade to become the modern-day Joe McCarthy...any thoughts besides the obvious 'Peter King is a bedwetting tool'?

    he knows his (none / 0) (#49)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 12:56:55 PM EST
    audience.  expect more Peter Kings next session.  in fact he may end up looking moderate.

    how scary is that?

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    Between King's schtick... (none / 0) (#51)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    and Holder/Napolitano on about "domestic threats" and "domestic extremists" all the time lately... it really makes you wonder what Uncle Sam has in store for we the people in the near future....we might get off lucky if all they do is gut the safety net...sick and hungry still beats a detention camp.

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    We the subjects, get it right (none / 0) (#53)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:11:55 PM EST
    I thought (none / 0) (#56)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:21:23 PM EST
    the muslim rep guy had some interesting things to say about this.  

    basically, its fine to watch dangerous people but lets not limit ourselves to dangerous brown people.
    since we have a rich history of white domestic terrorism.

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    The million dollar questions... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:44:04 PM EST
    who watches all these watchers?  and who watches the watcher watchers?

     

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    Add... (none / 0) (#81)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:22:49 PM EST
    mulsim rep guy's take worries me...seems like he is saying lets treat everybody like a suspect.

    The answer to authoritarian discrimination is not to treat everybody like a suspect "equally", it is to treat everybody like the innocent free human being they are until there is evidence they have committed a crime...and thats not even close to ideal with all the non-crime clogging the law books.

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    heh (none / 0) (#65)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:40:32 PM EST
    I am literally wallowing in this stuff like this FB post:

    Change your profile picture to black to mourn the death of the United States military as we know it.

    afaic
    it doesnt get better than this.


    Geez, I'm in the military and I don't mourn (none / 0) (#69)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:55:51 PM EST
    I read this article earlier today about Leadership being key to ending military gay ban.

    It totally true too. Guys at my level will be the ones that implement this and make this happen at the soldier/sailor/airman/Marine level. The DOD and Pentagon folks will take their time with their "plan" then it'll be our job to execute, the plan that is.

    I'm sure there will be some growing pains for some. It's always been my philosophy that no matter what your color, gender, or orientation, if you could do the job, you deserved to be there, combat or not. Command teams are responsible for maintaining order and discipline in their units, but at the end of the day you're a soldier like everyone else and you will comply with the rules and regulations, period. Mission first.

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    but it sure will squeeze (none / 0) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:00:12 PM EST
    the haters out of the woodwork.  its already doing it.  

    I think there will be problems.  probably serious ones.  I have said that for a while.  up and including violence or even death.

    as much as it is cited this is not racial integration.  its far more complicated than that IMO.
    but I agree with you that in the end all will be well and it will be looked back on with wonder that it was ever any different.

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    There will be haters and some problems (none / 0) (#79)
    by republicratitarian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:17:08 PM EST
    Some of these young kids already don't get along  over stupid stuff. Throw in a gay soldier and there is no telling. It will take a lot of strong command teams at my level to educate, monitor and adjust as necessary to the whole thing.

    I hope it does squeeze the haters out of the woodwork. I would love for nothing more than to bust their balls over being an ignorant moron. :)

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    they have been told by Rush and Hannity (none / 0) (#80)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:19:08 PM EST
    that hate is good and mainstream.  its a recipe for disaster.  I dont envy the people who have to shepherd this.

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    I had to go check (none / 0) (#120)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:48:28 PM EST
    facebook after you said that. Nothing on mine but then most of my friends are ECUSA.

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    You have some (none / 0) (#121)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:55:49 PM EST
    really, well I'll be kind and say "strange" Facebook friends, Cap.  (Have you considered "unfriending" any of them?)  

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    actually (none / 0) (#147)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 08:19:51 AM EST
    that was not a "friend" of mine but someone elses.
    but I do have a fair number of friends I dont really want.  my solution was to abandon facebook.  except to peek in from time to time just to see how completely over the top they are today.
    if its not Obama its god.  looooots and lots of jesus.


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    Jim Geraghty (none / 0) (#68)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:50:38 PM EST
    Haley Barbour, Take Two

    But the racial sensitivity at Barbour headquarters was suggested by an exchange between the candidate and an aide who complained that there would be `'coons'' at a campaign stop at the state fair. Embarrassed that a reporter heard this, Mr. Barbour warned that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks.


    Read the comments (none / 0) (#70)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 01:58:33 PM EST
    More excuses.

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    I know (none / 0) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:00:54 PM EST
    unbelievable

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    well maybe not (none / 0) (#75)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:05:53 PM EST
    unbelievable.  watch this hardball segment.

    I thought this was just stunning.  they are getting very comfortable with being up front about it.

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    issues a statement (none / 0) (#93)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:01:16 PM EST
    "When asked why my hometown in Mississippi did not suffer the same racial violence when I was a young man that accompanied other towns' integration efforts, I accurately said the community leadership wouldn't tolerate it and helped prevent violence there. My point was my town rejected the Ku Klux Klan, but nobody should construe that to mean I think the town leadership were saints, either. Their vehicle, called the `Citizens Council,' is totally indefensible, as is segregation. It was a difficult and painful era for Mississippi, the rest of the country, and especially African Americans who were persecuted in that time."


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    this is great (5.00 / 0) (#111)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:12:23 PM EST
    ya they did reject the KKK but because they did not want competition:

    To answer a question raised in yesterday's post, yeah, it looks like the local branch of the Citizens Council in Barbour's hometown was as bad as all the rest. According to author John Dittmer, as quoted in Michelle Goldberg's piece for the Daily Beast, "The Yazoo City chapter of the Citizens Council went on record opposing the Klan, adding that `your Citizens Council was formed to preserve the separation of the races, and believes that it can best serve the county where it is the only organization operating in this field.'"


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    great (none / 0) (#73)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:02:44 PM EST
    Lockerbie bomber release (none / 0) (#74)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:04:27 PM EST
    Was based on an oil deal.

    Of course, all those who argued for "compassion" because he was going to die any day were hoodwinked too.

    The decision to release convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi from a Scottish prison last year was motivated in part by a desire to preserve an oil exploration agreement between the Libyan government and BP, four Senate Democrats alleged in a report released Tuesday.

    The report says the government of the United Kingdom pressured the Scottish government to release al-Megrahi over concerns that a $900 million oil exploration agreement with Libya could be compromised.

    "The threat of commercial warfare was a motivating factor. The U.K. knew that in order to maintain trade relations with Libya, it had to give into political demands. Faced with the threat of losing the lucrative BP oil deal and other commercial ties, the U.K. agreed to include al-Megrahi's release in a Prisoner Transfer Agreement (PTA) with Libya," the report said.



    Not surprising... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:14:03 PM EST
    it was all for the wrong reasons, governments were involved after all, always follow the cashish.

    But as someone who believes wholeheartedly in compassionate release, I don't feel hoodwinked...maybe a little sadness at what motivates the various authorities in this world....in two words, power & money.

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    He was going to die any day (none / 0) (#78)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:15:40 PM EST
    He's still going strong - more than a year later.  I know you'll be shocked, but I don't feel any compassion for a mass murderer.

    The excuse was bunk.

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    Has he hurt anybody? (none / 0) (#83)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:26:35 PM EST
    Not that I've heard.  And he does in fact have cancer...that part wasn't b.s.

    I know you'll be shocked, but I still don't have a problem with the release, only with the reasoning...which was "good for business" instead of "good for humanity".

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    Has he hurt anybody? (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:30:15 PM EST
    you mean besides the original 259?

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    Of course... (none / 0) (#86)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:35:27 PM EST
    since the heinous crime he was convicted of.

    Cuz in my book, every human being uncaged who doesn't go onto hurt anybody else is a big win for humanity.

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    Hmmmm (none / 0) (#100)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:43:18 PM EST
    You're on the side of mass murderers who don't happen to hurt anybody else that you know of.

    Oooooo-kay.

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    I'm on the side... (none / 0) (#105)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:57:30 PM EST
    of redemption, you bet.

    Wasn't the UK attempting to rehabilitate or "correct" the man all that time he was caged up?  If he hasn't gone back to murder, maybe they suceeded....and isn't that the goal, rehabilitation and correction of murderers and other violent criminals?  As well as protecting society at large.  

    Say what I will about the Saudis, but they're more than enlightened than us in this regard...I find their terrorist rehabilitation program idea pretty interesting...we should try thinking like that instead of the same old lock 'em up and throw away the key.

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    He took down a plane (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:52:42 PM EST
    270 total were killed if you count those taken out on the ground.

    He has no regrets and would do the same.  That is the kind of person that should remain locked up.

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    How many have our drones... (none / 0) (#108)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:00:20 PM EST
    taken down?  And our leaders have no regrets, and continue to do the same without the shred of a doubt....where as we're both guessing about the ex-con in question.

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    Comparable evils (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:39:38 PM EST
    I happen to think CIA assassination runs in Pakistan are illegal and would be very satisfied is guilty verdicts could be gotten that included imprisonment.

    There are few people who need to be caged, but the Lockerbie bomber is one.  Those blowing Pakistanis into a fine red mist are others.

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    I agree... (none / 0) (#124)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:35:44 PM EST
    he needed to be caged, one of the few who really give the rest of us no choice...but forever?  No matter what?  Better than the death penalty, innocents convicted have a prayer of getting out...but far from the best our systems can do.

    I can't get down with how you guys see it, I know I'm extreme...but I believe it better for us to meet at the pub and draw straws to see who has to lay down the ultimate street justice than to sully our systems of justice, which much remain as humane, compassionate, rehabilitative, and pure as humanly possible...at the apex of standards no individual human being could possibly live up to....on paper and in procedure.  

    Otherwise, why have them...individuals and the mob have been doing punitive cruelty, misery, and pain since forever.  

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    Sincerely curious... (none / 0) (#137)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:11:58 PM EST
    How many people should one be allowed to violently kill to get life?  There's self-defense, justified killing, etc where there should be no time.  An accidental killing with negligence that could warrant some time.  Obviously serial killers know they should not be released, but what about people that have no regard for the lives of others they view as 'different'.  If a person kills, does a few years, gets out, kills again?  

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    Mass murder such as this... (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:47:59 PM EST
    life works for me, but compassionate release for the very sick, very old should always be on the table.  If we got snookered so BP makes a few extra bucks, that ain't cool...but how can you sweat it when the sick, the old, the feeble, the non-threats sit in cages.  It's a minor sin in the big scheme, and I'd hate to see the concept of compassionate release suffer due to common corruption.

    Aside from the most extreme serial killer/rapist/molester, unrepentant cold-blooded multiple murderers I think we're on the same page about...I can't think of any case we can't revisit, especially with reform to prison conditions with an emphasis on the opportunity to redeem.  

    Once the threat to society has been greatly reduced, if not eliminated, we should be looking to error on the side of freedom, not chains.  

    Thanks for asking waldenpond:)

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    you think he got (none / 0) (#109)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:02:10 PM EST
    a heros welcome because he was innocent?  

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    That says what it says... (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 06:15:08 PM EST
    about how they do in Libya...I'm talking about the supposedly civilized Western folk, how we do and what it says about us.

    Why settle for better when you can strive to be the best the world has ever seen...dare I say even if it bites ya in the arse.  Cuz who knows...maybe striving for the best catches on.

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    You're comparing apples to oranges (none / 0) (#112)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:13:55 PM EST
    This man was found guilty of mass murder in a court of law.

    What does American foreign policy, whether or not you agree with it, have to do with a convicted murderer?

    You may as well compare drug dealers to him, as they are supplying poisons that kill thousands of people each year.

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    Except nobody calls... (none / 0) (#129)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:50:29 PM EST
    the Lockerbie bomber or the Pentagon to deliver a violent death...now that's apples and oranges.

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    Plus the fact (none / 0) (#85)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:34:14 PM EST
    That at least 4 canceer specialists testified that his condition was not nearly as serious as the prison doctor said that allowed him to get his "compassionate release" under Scottish law.

    He's living in a huge villa with his family.  I hope it isn't too taxing for him.

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    Look at this way... (none / 0) (#90)
    by kdog on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:40:04 PM EST
    if it makes you feel better about it...now the UK has extra cash/room to cage the guys they just busted over the alleged Christmas plot.  

    I'm pretty confident the old cancer patient's blowing sh*t up days are over...onto the next generation of violent loons this sick world has produced.

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    the onion (none / 0) (#82)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 02:22:57 PM EST
    news in bedwetting (none / 0) (#97)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:27:04 PM EST
    Latest Terror Threat in US Aimed to Poison Food

    Exclusive: The Dept. of Homeland Security Uncovered a Plot to Attack Hotels and Restaurants Over a Single Weekend

    it seems to me that if this is the best the can do we must be doing something right

    Really salad bars and buffets should be avoided (none / 0) (#98)
    by ruffian on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:30:09 PM EST
    anyway. Just a good rule of thumb.

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    I always think of (none / 0) (#104)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:51:52 PM EST
    kids (and adults) who pick things up with unwashed hands from the salad bars/buffets.  Not to mention sneezing and coughing (and, no, I don't think that the "sneeze guards" are adequate protection).  Thank goodness for our immune systems.  Not to mention that buffets tend to have very mediocre food.  And, of course, you can't be entirely sure that the food you're getting from the kitchen is all that pristine in a "sit-down" restaurant, either.  Ever been in a restaurant kitchen?  I have.  You don't want to know.  As I said, depend upon your immune system.  ;-)  

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    my friends who wait tables (none / 0) (#107)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:59:13 PM EST
    say the pricer the place the worse the kitchen.

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    They may have a point (none / 0) (#110)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:03:03 PM EST
    I've been in several restaurant kitchens.  If you're squeamish, never eat out, is all I can say.  We do eat at restaurants a lot, but I don't really worry about it.  As I said, depend upon your immune system.

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    perhaps now they will start inspecting (none / 0) (#102)
    by nycstray on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:47:54 PM EST
    our food instead of our bodies :)

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    I agree with ruffian (none / 0) (#103)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:50:21 PM EST
    eating something that has been laying around and being touched by people is just a bad idea.  in general.

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    The further (none / 0) (#101)
    by Zorba on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 03:44:57 PM EST
    erosion of the Bill of Rights (this time on the state level).  Big Brother is watching you.  (Gee, thanks, Houston PD.)

    Houston Police Use Secret Drones to Spy on You.

    oh my! (none / 0) (#115)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:33:49 PM EST
    Huck will be very grumpy:

    Mike Rogers says on his Twitter:

        I wonder if Lindsey Graham knows I have pictures of a man who spent the night at his house. pls RT
        - 10:57 AM Dec 18th

        Just reached lawyer at home. Meeting set for Tues. on releasing pix of man who spent night at Lindsey Graham's.
        - 11:05 AM Dec 18th



    will John McCain (none / 0) (#116)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:34:58 PM EST
    think he is endangering his fellow senators?

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    hahahaha!!!! aaaaahh that was good (none / 0) (#119)
    by waldenpond on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 04:41:02 PM EST
    Lindsay Lohan (none / 0) (#127)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:44:53 PM EST
    in trouble again?

    Just weeks away from completing her court-ordered stay at the Betty Ford Center, Lindsay Lohan is being investigated by police after allegedly assaulting a female employee at the clinic.

    Palm Desert police conducted a battery investigation at the scene at about 1 a.m. on Dec. 12. "The victim desired prosecution," says Sgt. Joe Borja of the Riverside County Sheriff's Department. "The incident is being investigated as a misdemeanor."

    A source close to Lohan, 24, says the actress denies pushing the woman first. The staffer scolded Lohan for allegedly returning past curfew after spending the evening at a local bar, TMZ reports.

    It isn't known whether she had been drinking; the Betty Ford Center regularly tests patients for alcohol and drugs.



    More (none / 0) (#128)
    by jbindc on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:47:10 PM EST
    Lohan wants the staffer fired

    Lindsay Lohan will file a formal complaint against the woman who triggered a criminal investigation against the famous rehabber ... TMZ has learned.

    Sources connected with Lindsay tell us Lindsay is adamant ... the staffer whom she pushed earlier this month was the instigator, berating Lindsay and grabbing her before LiLo pushed her.



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    Oh, well, then never mind. But what the (none / 0) (#131)
    by oculus on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:57:25 PM EST
    heck is a person at Betty Ford doing going to a bar whilst in rehab?

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    Stop being logical! (none / 0) (#148)
    by jbindc on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 08:57:46 AM EST
    You're supposed to feel sorry for her, doncha know?

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    My favorite quote today (none / 0) (#130)
    by CoralGables on Tue Dec 21, 2010 at 05:57:17 PM EST
    "When it's all going to be said and done, Harry Reid has eaten our lunch."

    --Lindsey Graham (when discussing the lame duck session on Fox News Radio)