Wikileaks Mirror Sites Everywhere

By Jeralyn, Section Media
Posted on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 08:58:32 PM EST
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Wikileaks says the more people try to shut them down, the stronger they become. After Paypal shut them down, they mobilized their supporters on Twitter to create mirror sites and archive their published documents. For updated sites, use #imwikileaks. Here's Wikileaks' twitter page.

Here's a list of mirror sites. This one and this one are working as of now, and have a contribution page handled by someone other than Paypal.

The LA Times reports the Government's clampdown may be a blow to intelligence-sharing among agencies. I think that's a good thing. "The Wall" provided important safeguards and restricted end-runs around the Fourth Amendment. 9/11, Ashcroft and the Patriot Act changed that, and it should be restored, at least between intelligence-gathering agencies and crime-fighting agencies.

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This harrassment may be (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by observed on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 09:00:02 PM EST

to prevent the bank leaks,imo

It's indeed very interesting (5.00 / 2) (#2)
by Zorba on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 09:04:47 PM EST

that all the governmental and non-governmental hysteria, shut-downs, etc, didn't occur after the initial leaks, but after the revelation that there would be more leaks about a "big bank."


Ladies... (none / 0) (#6)
by kdog on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 07:51:13 AM EST

there are institutions and there are institutions...in fact you could argue one institution is just a front to take heat for the one true institution...big money.

I just hope the bankster papers hit and hit hard...maybe we'll get our best peak yet at the man behind the curtain, at what Henry Ford said would cause the revolt.


and Gentlemen (none / 0) (#7)
by dead dancer on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 09:13:51 AM EST

The rats are definitely feeling exposed.

TY for the link Natural


: Rats are scurying (none / 0) (#8)
by dead dancer on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 09:23:57 AM EST

Swiss host dismisses pressure to take it offline

I am reminded ... (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by Repack Rider on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:12:07 PM EST

...of the king who stood at the edge of the sea and ordered the tide not to rise.

The morality or ethics of such leaks are immaterial, because now you could put the whole document dump onto a postage stamp sized camera memory card that could be smuggled a million different ways. It will happen again and again because corrupt and hated bosses can't watch every disgruntled employee or control the distribution of information every employee needs access to.

Document dumps are about to become a regular occurrence, and rather than curse them, governments and the BofA should start working on a strategy to deal with something as inevitable as sunrise.

Telling the truth would be a good start.

: I think you are right (none / 0) (#13)
by Militarytracy on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:39:32 PM EST

Hasn't the Obama administration fed some of this too with its prosecution of whistle blowers? I put Manning in a different class as the rest of wikileaks leakers though because he was a soldier and a military intelligence soldier at that, he took oaths. Outside of that though, what is average disgusted at the lawlessness joe supposed to do? What is a decent hard working flesh and blood human being with a conscience to do these days of government sanctioned rape and pillage?

information is not secure (5.00 / 0) (#21)
by ZtoA on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 02:31:53 PM EST

Governments, corporations, institutions, individuals need to be aware of this. It cannot be stopped, but maybe it can be diverted. Information does not need to be true. I expect big players who have been hacked will start to feed falsehoods to the leakers, then reveal that the leakers are leaking lies and thus discredit them. Or maybe big players will set up a leak about an enemy and use information as a weapon. I don't expect that more transparency will be the result of forced leaking of information.

: They will definitely be more careful (none / 0) (#24)
by hollyfromca on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 04:53:22 PM EST

But people leak lies all the time, knowingly or unknowingly. It is up to the journalists and organizations like WikiLeaks to do the legwork to figure out what the truth is.
I think we will find out a lot about BofA and BP (as a diary on The Great Orange is claiming today). And I think we'll be better off for knowing it.

Despots supported by Talkleft (1.50 / 2) (#4)
by Andreas on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 06:20:36 AM EST

We will see how long the despots Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton will politically survive these activities.

One should also remember that Talkleft helped to elect those despots.

I'm scared to death (none / 0) (#11)
by Militarytracy on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:34:05 PM EST

"Repack Rider" and "DFLer" (none / 0) (#12)
by Andreas on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:37:18 PM EST

"Repack Rider" and "DFLer" obviously support the anti-democratic activities of the Obama regime.


God only knows what in the world (5.00 / 0) (#14)
by Militarytracy on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:42:51 PM EST

you are talking about


Ratings (none / 0) (#16)
by Andreas on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 01:15:45 PM EST

Look at their ratings.


I think it is the threatening tone (none / 0) (#19)
by Militarytracy on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 01:38:22 PM EST

of your comment.


: Threatening? (none / 0) (#20)
by Andreas on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 01:52:44 PM EST

If anything is threatening then it is the vicious manhunt which is organised by the Obama administration, the Democrats and the Republicans. And yes, I hope that the American people will remove that despotic regime ASAP.

you are full of sheets (1.00 / 1) (#22)
by DFLer on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 02:32:27 PM EST

'WikiLeaks v the imperial presidency's poodle' (none / 0) (#3)
by Mr Natural on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 03:08:41 AM EST

Harold Koh, John Yoo, Wikileaks, and Obama's invertebrate choir:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/nov/29/the-us-embassy-cables-wikileaks

Much Ado about Nothing (none / 0) (#5)
by weltec2 on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 06:21:13 AM EST

"Was't not to this end That thou began'st to twist so fine a story?"

hm... then who the author and who the audience?

mr. assange is neither (none / 0) (#9)
by cpinva on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:08:22 PM EST

a citizen nor a resident of the united states. on what basis then, would AG Holder have to bring any kind of charges against him? i wasn't aware that citizens/residents of other countries were required to obey US laws, unless they happened to be in the US. when did this change happen?

Terrorism (none / 0) (#15)
by waldenpond on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 12:50:35 PM EST

uh, he's acting against Obama's interest. They don't actually need to charge him with anything. Obama can just take a hit out on him under the justification that he's embarrassing the US and that will embolden our enemies.

Would you be surprised if Assange is assassinated and you find out the US (Obama/Clinton) did it?


: Yes (5.00 / 2) (#17)
by CoralGables on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 01:19:15 PM EST

I would

IANAL (none / 0) (#18)
by hollyfromca on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 01:24:27 PM EST

He did host his site briefly with Amazon U.S. until they pulled it down, so maybe that would be justification for charges.

If anybody sees any good legal analysis of this, I would like to see links.


i was kind of hoping (none / 0) (#23)
by cpinva on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 04:25:55 PM EST

jeralyn or BTD might opine on this.

If anybody sees any good legal analysis of this, I would like to see links.

the only opinions i've seen expressed are either of the FOX "anal-yst" variety, or neglect to mention that mr. assange's alleged "crime" wasn't committed in the US, and that he's neither a citizen or resident of the US, all of which bear on the issue.


Here's a decent analysis (none / 0) (#28)
by Zorba on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 06:12:51 PM EST

from

Baruch Weiss, a litigation partner at Arnold & Porter, specializes in white-collar and national security matters. He is a former federal prosecutor and served in the Treasury and Homeland Security departments.

He doesn't think that prosecuting Wikileaks has much of a chance.


: Thanks. Excellent link. n/t (none / 0) (#30)
by hollyfromca on Mon Dec 06, 2010 at 11:42:07 AM EST

: That's why the (possibly trumped-up) (none / 0) (#31)
by observed on Mon Dec 06, 2010 at 02:21:52 PM EST

rape charge is being pursued so vigorously.

What Amazon said on Thursday... (none / 0) (#27)
by EL seattle on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 05:56:07 PM EST

... actually seemed sensible to me. But I'm not a lawyer or anything.

From the CNN account:

"It's clear that WikiLeaks doesn't own or otherwise control all the rights to this classified content," the posting said. "Further, it is not credible that the extraordinary volume of 250,000 classified documents that WikiLeaks is publishing could have been carefully redacted in such a way as to ensure that they weren't putting innocent people in jeopardy."

I wonder if anyone has actually/seriously tried to sue Wikileaks about anything yet.


These interviews don't answer you exact question (none / 0) (#26)
by dead dancer on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 04:55:59 PM EST

but are interesting.

Assange's lawyer Mark Stephens on Sweden's arrest warrant 5 minutes in Stephens is asked about the US filing charges.

Another interview with Stephens.


Eh? (none / 0) (#29)
by diogenes on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 08:53:29 PM EST

If acts of terrorism committed in the US are "civilian crimes" that should be tried in "civilian courts", then why shouldn't the CIA share information about any such possible acts with the FBI?