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The Obama Movement, The Democratic Party, And The Progressive Movement

While Atrios and aimai focus on different aspects of this Rolling Stone article about the floundering "Obama Movement," I was struck by this:

The decision to shunt Organizing for America into the DNC had far-reaching consequences for the president's first year in office. For starters, it destroyed his hard-earned image as a new kind of politician, undercutting the post-partisan aura that Obama enjoyed after the election. "There were a lot of independents, and maybe even some Republicans, on his list of 13 million people," says Joe Trippi, who launched the digital age of politics as the campaign manager for Howard Dean in 2004. "They suddenly had to ask themselves, 'Do I really want to help build the Democratic Party?'"

(Emphasis supplied.) Trippi's question is fascinating to me. As we know, it is hard to figure out what Trippi is about these days (Harold Ford???), but the question Trippi asks is not a bad one. But it is not a question for a progressive to be asking. A progressive would say 'I want to build a PROGRESSIVE Democratic Party, now what is the best way to do that?'

Unquestioning devotion to Obama is surely not the way. That has always been my beef with the new Obama activist - it has been about Obama, not advancing progressive issues.

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    The master of Illusion (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 12:50:15 PM EST
    I can't imagine why any progressive would want to build the Obama Party. Where in his voting record in the Senate or in his actions since president has he shown even the slightest hint of being a progressive?

    More often than not, he ridicules the progressives in an effort to bolster his bipartisan credentials.

    Some people just refuse to accept reality.

    I wouldn't want to build the Obama Party (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 02:51:23 PM EST
    for one simple and practical reason and that is that Presidents are temps - they only get eight years - once they are gone they are gone.  Building a party around a person whose relevance and power is set to expire is a waste of time.

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    Movement Politics (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by norris morris on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 09:30:48 PM EST
    Unlike Reagan who was a movement conservative and open about it, Obama is the movement. It's all about him.  American Idol.

    The Democrats have no unified message, and Obama has failed to lead and clarify his positions. Obama has been professorial and appeared clueless
    regarding communicating clearly with the electorate. His preoccupation about bi-partisanship has not stopped the expected Republican opposition from their usual obstructionist tactics. Obama allowed the minority party to sieze the moment in the vacuum presented by Obama and control the HCR debate.

    Obama's been coming off as someone run by the Daley Chicago machine & surrounded by a group whose main purpose is to re elect him.

    Without leadership there is no Movement. Movement politics whether right, center,or left derive from strong ideas and convictions that present a philosophy that can be boldly and clearly presented and executed. Of course without popular support there can't be a Movement, and liberals & independents are leaving Obama.

    So Obama is all about Obama and the Chicago cadre are in control oblivious to the need of leadership by the Democrats.

     The bully pulpit has  not been used effectively to influence the public or the congress, let alone the fractious and spinless Democrats masquerading as legislators.

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    Wrong (none / 0) (#24)
    by mmc9431 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 05:33:02 AM EST
    I wish Obama resembled Daley. Chicago runs fairly smooth for a major city. Daley is anything but wishy-washy. There isn't anyone around that doesn't know that Daley is the leader. Does anyone is DC believe Obama is the leader? In fact does Obama even believe it?

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    Obama "movement" (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Coral on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 01:05:00 PM EST
    seems to have lost all intensity in the past year. I think it's a direct result of the sentence you've bolded.

    There are some diehards, but the people I know who were gaga over Obama last year are totally disengaged from politics now.

    Could also be bcz of the stands Obama himself has (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jawbone on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 06:08:06 PM EST
    taken--or not taken in many instances.  If people wanted universal health CARE, they probably feel deserted and disappointed that Obama wanted health insurance reform, with the reform aimed very much at continued high profitability for those private for-profit insurers.

    Mandates without real health CARE? Not too great an idea.

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    My question is, when are the Democrats (5.00 / 5) (#3)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 01:44:52 PM EST
    going to get busy building the Democratic Party?  Because it appears that Obama - and those who went out of their way to bend, break and manipulate rules and elections to put him in office - is most interested in treating the party as his own personal fiefdom.

    Frankly, there are a lot of Democrats - myself included - who no longer see ourselves as fitting into this New Democratic Party, and have little interest in cementing it into place, possibly for decades to come.

    I mean, what is the Democratic Party these days?  Just an offshoot of Obama for America, focused on pretty talk, demands for money and watering-down of long-standing liberal policies?  Mmmm...no thanks, not interested.

    The way things look to me now, the Democratic Party is no longer the vehicle by which liberal policies can or will be advanced; whether it is pie-in-the-sky thinking or not, I believe there is at least a growing discussion of, and interest in, building a viable, liberal/progressive party.  Or at least a visible and loud organization from which to provide some pressure, some movement back to the left of center - especially as Obama goes "agnostic" on not raising taxes on the under-$250K crowd, and makes more noises about cutting entitlement spending, remains way too silent on issues of reproductive choice for someone who says he is in favor of it, embraces with way too much vigor too many of the abhorrent Bush policies, is proving to way too cozy with his savvy businessmen friends...

    Something's gotta give.

    Does that mean that you are (none / 0) (#6)
    by MO Blue on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 02:32:06 PM EST
    not going to donate to become an Honorary Member of Obama's "Kitchen Cabinet?" In lieu of good policies, you get a refrigerator magnet with Obama's picture stating you are a member.

    DNC's latest fund raising initiative.

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    Well, if I had a refrigerator magnet (5.00 / 4) (#9)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 03:08:09 PM EST
    with Obama's picture on it, maybe it would kill my appetite and help me lose a few pounds...

    I feel a little ill just thinking about it.

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    Only a refrigerator magnet!?!? (5.00 / 4) (#18)
    by lambert on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 08:55:41 PM EST
    I've got a commemorative plate -- with a PONY on it LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Reproductive Freedom (none / 0) (#22)
    by norris morris on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 09:42:19 PM EST
    Thanks for your great post. Opposition  comes from the people who expect far more than the raw deal they've gotten.

    As you say the silence was deafening when both House and Sentate were permitted to do an end run on women's rights to equal protection and freedom of choice.   Not a word from Obama about Stupak and Nelson's shove against women.

    Does Obama feel that we women are so secondary and unimportant that he can keep our votes?
    This arrogance has not escaped women from the Democratic center and left, and millions of independent women voters.

    Bad calculations have consequences as Obama will find out.  We really need a third party in America if we can even hope for any real change and help create it.  Someone must start this.

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    this has been painfully obvious (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by cpinva on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 02:32:00 PM EST
    since the primaries:

    Unquestioning devotion to Obama is surely not the way. That has always been my beef with the new Obama activist - it has been about Obama, not advancing progressive issues.

    his campaign turned into a cult of personality, much like one of his oft spoken of predecessors, ronald reagan. no rational person could possibly have missed it.

    Turned into? (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by inclusiveheart on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 02:53:37 PM EST
    I think that that is all it was from the start.  The campaign was a launch of a brand and an image.  But they never really shifted gears and got into actually delivering product associated with that brand and image.  That's their problem.

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    I don't think they ever intended to deliver (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 02:02:08 PM EST
    though, only get elected.

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    The interesting thing is that if they (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by inclusiveheart on Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 05:14:28 PM EST
    delivered, they would have had a sure thing on the re-election front and Obama would have gone down in history as a pretty fantastic President.  I think I am wrong to think of them as over-achievers.  I think they do the bare minimum.  Funnily, I thought that Obama reminded me of a lot of the the people I went to school with who were combo super smart and charismatic and therefore didn't have to work that hard to do well in school.  In that context, it is not surprising that the delivery beyond that rhetoric is lacking because that's the part that requires the hard work and commitment that is often difficult for folks who have figured out how to skate by for most of their lives.

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    That's soooo immature though (none / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 08:42:49 PM EST
    And that is probably my narrow point of view too :). I mean I know the "crowd" you speak of, and for many who easily excel in early life....they don't know how to be truly dedicated and produce and don't even want to know.  They might get sweaty and dirty.  It isn't what it was all about for them.  School was pretty breezy for me too though and I cared about my popularity too much as well, it just didn't hold up though at the end of that juvenile day and I've been a very hard worker at actually "producing" since then.  I think I worked hard to produce in school too though I guess, I was always pushing myself.  My spouse is the same way as well, that is why we get along so well.  We understand that about each other and when he's busting tail I don't feel abandoned...and likewise.  Our intimacy is sharing our "busting tail" day or days.  I expect more from our leaders.  Damn it, I demand it :)  My son's teacher last year though (and I love her) was notorious for warning the class that if things always came easy for you beware, you are in danger of leading a lackluster life.  She told them all that when it came to living a successful life it never was her star students who reached the highest pinnacles because they don't know how to handle hard knocks or defeat.

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    Love him or hate him (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by pfish on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 10:07:13 PM EST
    Ronald Reagan was synonymous with a cogent political philosophy.  The only thing Obama stands for is...  Obama.

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    Forget your subscription to Rolling Stone (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by FreakyBeaky on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 05:58:58 PM EST
    Barack Obama was not elected by a grassroots revolution, he was elected by a political campaign.  That's why OFA was moved to the DNC and effectively no longer exists: the campaign is over.  I mean, duh.  

    It is incredibly irritating that anyone ever bought into the "movement" crap.  It's incredibly irritating that some, like the writer of the linked article, are still wanking away at it.  

    IIRC, a political operation such as OFA could not (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by jawbone on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 06:17:41 PM EST
    be run out of the WH due to election campaign laws. Therefore, it had to set up on its own or turned over to the DNC.  

    However, the Obama WH was not very interested in the OFA after they'd won, fo handing it off the DNC seemed logical and easiest.  

    The way the health care...er, make that health insurance...communication to the OFA was handled seemed to indicate a halfhearted interest in continuing to see any political activity by the "movement" members. Donations, yes; political input, no.  The WH was quite well satisfied with what they were doing, thank you all very much. If there wasn't agreement with what the WH wanted, keep your opinions to yourselves.

    Especially those "liberal bleeding heart" and single payer types.

    Typo: For "hard-earned image"... (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by lambert on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 09:09:48 PM EST
    I think the author means "expensively burnished image."

    I mean, if Obama's image had been actually earned, we'd have had some sort of real track record of actual community organizing, instead of a punched ticket and people freezing in their apartments...

    Your beef is my beef but... (none / 0) (#4)
    by oldpro on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 02:17:41 PM EST
    what???  You missed an opportunity to link to you-know-what!

    Right. On. BTD. (none / 0) (#10)
    by pluege on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 03:14:21 PM EST
    Unquestioning devotion to Obama is surely not the way. That has always been my beef with the new Obama activist - it has been about Obama, not advancing progressive issues.

    obamfans are fools.

    Fools? Nah. (none / 0) (#25)
    by prittfumes on Sat Feb 13, 2010 at 12:02:21 PM EST
    Give 'em some time to grow up. By the way that includes the fawning 40-50-60-70+ year olds.

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    After seeing (none / 0) (#11)
    by sas on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 05:16:25 PM EST
    how sexist and misogynistic the "progressives" were, I decided that I was not a progressive, but a liberal.

    Then when I saw what the "progressives" wanted to do with women's reproductive health and choices in the HCR bill, I realized I had made the right decision.

    I've never really been in the Obama camp... (none / 0) (#15)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 06:53:39 PM EST
    ... so I'm not personally all that disillusioned with him. But from an inside baseball perspective, I do rather wonder why he hasn't tried to govern more towards the people who put him in the White House. Obama always talked about his admiration for Reagan's political tactics, despite their policy differences, and yet he had an apparatus to talk over Congress directly to voters, which was Reagan's skill, and he's squandered it. It's a somewhat different dynamic, since the people he needed to squeeze were in his own party, but still a bad approach.

    He's definitely been trying to (none / 0) (#16)
    by observed on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 06:56:41 PM EST
    squeeze members of his own party more than Republicans. If you were alluding to a hope that he would pressure Blue Dogs, that was never the plan: the plan was to hurt anyone left of Joe Lieberman.

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    Well, yes... (5.00 / 0) (#17)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 07:08:06 PM EST
    ... I didn't mean that he wouldn't squeeze the left flank to the right. But I don't see how that helps him at all.

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    Not meant to help (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by lambert on Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 09:00:38 PM EST
    After consolidating Bush's authoritarian gains, starting a new war, and screwing the base one more time with "entitlement reform," Obama will hand over the keys to the Republicans in 2012, and go on to make millions as a talkshow host and business strategy consultant. It's called the ratchet effect.

    We really need to get over the idea that concepts like "the public good" or "policy" mean anything to our elites. They don't.

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    Should progressive Dems do a kick-ass movement? (none / 0) (#29)
    by good grief on Sun Feb 14, 2010 at 12:20:48 AM EST
    We really need a third party in America if we can even hope for any real change and help create it.  Someone must start this. (norris morris)

    A third party or a movement to influence/shake up the Dem Party? Is it too outrageous to suggest someone like Howard Dean take on a head-hunter role to find not just one but several lively Dems (if not himself as I imagine he would refuse) to launch such a movement as a "kick-ass team" to go around the country speaking up to the points raised by this RS article, putting Team Obama and their pathetic PR strategists (Plouff, Axelrod, Emanuel, Gibbs, and virtual thugs like Blair and Brennan, and Wall Streeters like Geithner, Summers et al, and especially Obama himself) on notice to pay attention to serious progressive policy -- not just crappy lip-service -- while they still have a semblance of majority, and even when they (likely) lose their majority in midterms (in Senate at least) to fight like hell to get progressive legislation through. With the corporate funding of election campaigns given such a big push by Supremes, we have to appeal directly to the people, not just via media who will be even further compromised into conflict of interest (with campaign ad sales) by the corporate/GOP side. The only way for Dems to get in touch with the people and get them back in the Dem corner is to get real, not with "listening tours" but telling tours telling us you see the merits of single payer (for example) after Blue Cross/Anthem raised premium 39% etc. Tell 'em we're going to take a few risks to fight for good economic principles like non-commercial health insurance (for example).

    I'm suggesting a stalking horse movement led by a team of Dems like Dean and others who will critique Team Obama and kick them in the ass -- this Dem team will feel like they're Republicans by the feel of the hoof on their ass -- but they will be (relatively) progressive Dems. They should create a "Real Dem Kick-Ass" platform modeled on a "Contract with America" type of layout (just in terms of brief talking points) on policy, saying, "This is what we want Dems in Congress and WH to fight for or get out of town and lose our base of support." Somebody has got to stand up for the left or else the left falls off the cliff.

    A third party might split the left but a wake-up, kick-ass movement might unite the left and make it stronger than the sum of its, er, constituents.

    The wake-up kick-ass team would make speeches at marches and demonstrations all over the country, appear on talk shows -- be everywhere people can see them -- do it like a campaign but it's not an election campaign -- yet -- it's to scare the hell out of Obama and his sycophantic minions. Tell the public, "We're reminding Pres Obama and Dems in Congress of the principles they came in with, before they began running scared and putting more faith in cash-heavy lobbyists than in their own voters and constituents. We're a wake-up call to telling them to come home to your constituents. We, the constituents, are stronger than the corporate lackeys. There are millions more of us." These points are already being made in major media (like Rolling Stone), so it's no secret. Rethugs (and ObamaGaGa's) will try to make something of our criticizing Obama. So what? Let 'em. Tell `em we're taking care of our own party even if they refuse to take care of theirs. It'll make us look stronger as a party. The points in Rolling Stone and elsewhere in punditocracy need to be made by real Dems, not just pundits and bloggers, bright as many are.

    If Team Obama doesn't pay attention, then keep the momentum going and only then consider creating a third party, but try this kick-ass tack first.


    Democratize the Progressive Movement (none / 0) (#30)
    by michaelkarpman on Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 07:55:59 PM EST
    I think the biggest obstacle to the growth of a truly vibrant progressive movement that could organize to Obama's left is a lack of democracy within movement organizations like OFA, MoveOn.org, etc.  Regular members of these groups receive top-down messages on what to say, when to say it, and how to take action.  None of us have ownership or voting power within the organizations that represent us.

    Unless we're ready to build a completely new organization from scratch, I think we need to spread a message that we need democracy and decentralization within existing organizations so that power is truly in the hands of individual members at the community, or chapter, level.