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first of all, after "1000 Rabbis warn" who cares what it says after that. also, you mean like it ruined Israel's military back in 1993?
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I first read it "1000 rabbits walk into a leather bar . . . " Parent
It's certainly more "scientific" than that modern-day superstition of superstitions, poll points.
It can be like horse[power] or [kilo]wattage, but for bullsh!t. Example:
If a trope leaving Altoona on Monday advanced x[poll points] with the force of y[1000][lying sacks of sh!t] how long would it take before [random media drama queen]'s head exploded on Sunday Morning Blather?
Eventually it will eliminate the fraud that if "both sides do it", they're doing it at equal force and in an equal number of forums.
The formula needs work, but that's because I'm with you on my brain screeching to halt at the mental image of a 1K Rabbis. Parent
What is CreditCards.com? CreditCards.com is the leading online credit card marketplace connecting consumers with multiple credit card issuers. CreditCards.com enables consumers to search for, compare and apply for credit cards and offers credit card advice, news, statistics and tools. In 2009, more than 12 million consumers used CreditCards.com to make smart choices about credit cards.
CreditCards.com is the leading online credit card marketplace connecting consumers with multiple credit card issuers. CreditCards.com enables consumers to search for, compare and apply for credit cards and offers credit card advice, news, statistics and tools. In 2009, more than 12 million consumers used CreditCards.com to make smart choices about credit cards.
What I would want this web company to have to disclose is beyond what they will. Beyond donations, I would be interested to know how many cc applications get made through their site for the weeks to follow.
It seems a conflict of interest to me. Parent
A small plane has crashed into an office building in Austin, Texas, that houses local FBI, CIA, and IRS offices. The scene is 20 miles from the nearest airport, and witnesses say the plane "hit the building full-throttle." The pilot, Joseph Andrew Stack, left an online suicide note. The note is a rant against bankers, accountants, politicians, the IRS, and "monsters of organized religion." Stack, an engineer who worked in aviation, says he ran into business troubles after a Reagan-era IRS ruling that changed the way he could account for freelance income, and goes on to tally various business and financial failures, almost all of which he blames on government collusion with big business.
The pilot, Joseph Andrew Stack, left an online suicide note. The note is a rant against bankers, accountants, politicians, the IRS, and "monsters of organized religion." Stack, an engineer who worked in aviation, says he ran into business troubles after a Reagan-era IRS ruling that changed the way he could account for freelance income, and goes on to tally various business and financial failures, almost all of which he blames on government collusion with big business.
Postscript: I just read the suicide note about 10 minutes ago via the above link at Gawker. I made a pdf, thinking this "populist rant" isn't going to be up here for long. Guess what, it's been vanished in the time it took me to write this comment. Parent
Unfortunately. Parent
And surely the TV shows are, at least notionally, news gathering entities? This organization is no such thing. What next? A "town hall" on nutrition on the Monsanto site? A "town hall" on investment opportunities at Goldman Sachs? Parent
The Health Care Summit, brought to you by our proud supporters at Wellpoint, Aetna, BlueCross BlueShield, Cigna, United Health...and by all of the people they insure, who make it possible for campaign coffers to swell like Aunt Bertha's ankles after we denied her that medication she needed. Parent
J is welcome to delete mine, as well. Parent
And look how well that's going... Parent
Of course, they'd do nothing so crazy as abolishing cash money. Oh, wait... Parent
Sadly, his body was recently recovered from the wreckage of the Hotel Montana.
I did not know him, but it's clear that when Walt Ratterman died, the world lost one of the good guys.
RIP
The kickers...87% of those stopped are black or latino. Only 6% of stops led to summonses and another 6% led to arrests...that leaves 88% we are left to assume were unjustified stops. Not a very good hit rate for the fools in blue...probable cause is just a meaningless term I guess.
The Obama's are such yuppies! For them, the bubble boom world of the 80s and 90s doesn't seem to have ever ended.
They can't seem to wrap their mind, or values, around the very real suffering so many Americans are experiencing in the much more difficult new century.
I think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for her to champion. all you have to do is take a walk in a mall to see (and walk around) the problem.
Bill is joining her. Parent
Also poorer neighborhoods tend to have fewer amenities for those who like to be active outdoors. Parent
Healthy food = expensive food. If you're broke you go for the dollar menu not whole foods. Also poorer neighborhoods tend to have fewer amenities for those who like to be active outdoors.
Also poorer neighborhoods tend to have fewer amenities for those who like to be active outdoors.
Why doesn't the First Lady talk about that, which is the root of the problem. Of course, talking about that would put some onus on government to rectify socio-econmic disparity, and the Obamas avoid that like the damn plague. Better to fat shame and make it a matter of individual responsibility stemming from ignorance and/or laziness. "Just move", my a$$. Parent
Certainly may be a part of it, but I don't think that's anywhere near the whole answer... Parent
I'd wager that in some of those other 'less-developed' countries, poor people are dying of malnutrition, as opposed to our country where the poor are dying from obesity induced by cheap, carb-loaded, processed food. Parent
Frankly, the idea that obesity is not a real problem in this country or that it's not important is unbelievable. It's a huge public health issue, and yes, a lot of that is a matter of individual responsibility as well as government responsibility - which I think is being addressed to a certain degree with the school initiatives.
On a more personal level, my dad had to have quadruple bypass surgery this year and a heart valve replaced. It was terrifying, and he's not that old, he's just very overweight and has already had 2 heart attacks. So to me, this isn't about looking pretty or shaming people, it's about saving lives. Parent
Via the NYTimes: More Americans on the Road to Obesity:
Seven of the 10 states with the highest poverty levels are also among the 10 states with the highest obesity rates.
A recent letter to the editor of the Toronto Star put it this way:
First Lady Michelle Obama's campaign against childhood obesity, cites the key factors for this epidemic as busy parents with little time for cooking healthy meals, schools with too few physical activities programs, corporations that produce and advertise unhealthy foods, and children who are sedentary in front of the TV and video games. Childhood poverty - the most striking factor - was not on the list.
Individuals who lose small amounts of weight experience little change in net worth, but those who lose large amounts of weight have a dramatically improved financial position
Weight changes and dieting appear to be associated with wealth changes. Individuals who lose small amounts of weight experience little change in net worth, but those who lose large amounts of weight have a dramatically improved financial position, with Whites showing larger changes than Blacks.
Your article is basically about fat-prejudice, specifically how heavy people are paid less than thinner people. Good gawd read, just read.
Here's the thing: poor children are more obese, and when they grow up and enter the work force, as fat adults, their whole demographic is paid less which then gives rise to yet another generation of poor obese children who become another generation of obese adults - and so on, and so on. Isn't that fu@ked. Parent
heavy people are paid less than thinner people.
Uh yeah, iow:
Have you also read the research (none / 0) (#77) by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 18, 2010 at 12:14:05 PM PST that suggests obesity is a cause of less income & wealth?
that suggests obesity is a cause of less income & wealth?
While you do have a legitimate point about the nature of obesity, I don't really understand your gripe. If the goal is to combat childhood obesity - we should encourage that goal. Increasing the healthiness of schools seems to be a good way to reach people of all economic backgrounds - particularly the poor - who often have limited alternative outlets. Parent
I wish they'd shut their yaps about fat and put their money where their mouth is. Parent
Got it.
Personally, I don't criticize someone for agreeing with me. I find it perfectly easy to be ticked off about the lack of an effective economic plan, and still think that combating childhood obesity is a worthy goal. I didn't harp on Bush for trying immigration reform just because he was a terrible president otherwise. Parent
In other words, don't pay us $hit wages and then tell us to exercise to lose the weight we gain from eating the only cheap food we can afford.
Put the cart before the horse - it's easier that way. Oh, don't tell me to haul the cart either ;-) Parent
The Bloomberg Admin has also been involved in the issue. Fresh whole foods more available, wiping out 'food deserts', making food stamps worth more at the farmers markets etc. And many food charities are across the country are working on getting more 'real' food in their programs (and some are holding cooking and nutrition sessions for their guests). All of our leftover distribution from our CSA goes to a food charity for the 22 weeks we are receiving the harvest. They get a decent haul from us.
There's a lot to be said for trying to keep people healthy. Parent
the tiptoeing around the subject of fat always rubbed my rhubarb.
of course this is just MO. Parent
you see, I care about her and I dont want her to die. Parent
I've been skinny all my life and so is everyone in my family. My son, on the other hand, has fought his weight ever since he was about 7 years old. I fed him a diet like the one I grew up on -- lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, no desserts other than fruit, no baked goods except on holidays, no sweet cereals, candy, snacks or soft drinks. He was, in fact, a very picky eater who rarely finished his food -- and always ate much less than any of his friends. And yet, he was heavier than most. He was a large baby (9 lbs. 10 ounces when he was born) and extremely active. At 9 months he was rearranging the furniture in the living room. At a year he weighed 30 lbs. When I expressed concern about his weight at one year, the pediatrician pointed out that it was all muscle, which was true.
The simple fact is he has a very difficult metabolism -- to stay thin he has to be much, much, much more active than most people and it has to be VERY intense physical activity. He had no trouble staying slim as a very active toddler -- but once he started school and spent most hours forced to be still and mostly sitting, he started to gain weight. In some earlier human period when food was scarce and life was physically very hard his metabolism would be a blessing. In the modern world, it is a curse.
My experience with my son has taught me that the usual ideas about why people weigh what they do are often just wrong. Parent
And Roger said Bill would be in prison if they passed a law against harassing donut shop waitresses. Parent
What's now termed obesity in our cultural model -- botoxed, liposucked celebs who gain OMFG 20-30 lbs -- promotes an anguish-ridden binge and purge lifestyle as "normal". (Look, the poor thing became a martyr for looking beautiful for the camera ... for US!!!!)
I lament the double-thumbs up for societally piling on people for assumed bad behavior before factoring in other contributing elements:
I hate those standing ovations because someone reached a goal of being a Fashion Size (Whatever) over, say, wanting to enjoy a day more and/or do more of what they love, even "bad" stuff, in a healthier way. Parent
Star wades into social event, estabishes self as the thinnest one there, loudly proclaims: I. Am. Such. A. WHALE! (to cries of No! Look at you! You're the fairest in the land!)
Body dysmorphia is a real and tragic condition. Malnutrition isn't a fat/thin thing, nor is pain. I don't abide the "Mean Girl" model of getting to be cruel to others based on thinness.
Talk to me after a year of lunches in CA where you're the only one not taking "breaks" between courses and, at the end of the meal the "healthiest" (AKA thinnest one) pontificate on his/her strenuous workouts.
(I've seen workouts, suh, and preening next to exercise equipment between sneaking smokes, suh, is no workout.) Parent
Any b!tchiness in my comment was about how repeatedly shocked I am at Caulifornia's (Left Coast's) tragic culture of not appreciating their bounty of beautiful, fresh, healthy food while simultaneously hating on those without access to the same wealth.
When you do pack and move, you and your taste buds (and dogs') will love it. Parent
Lining up all my farmers for Ca. Have 2 CSAs to try, tracking down ranchers for proteins and will have my own garden for storage and canning produce and a farmers market a couple blocks away. Whew! And my farmers market has better prices than others in the region. Mom says she'll come up and shop with me :)
There is a certain effed up mentality in some areas of Ca with regards to food and image, but it's not limited to Ca. I high-tailed it out of SoCal for a reason and avoid other pockets of the same mentality. Still, it's a small percentage that tends to effect a larger population. Parent
I've always worked out regularly because my family was sports/activities oriented and I got to try out a lot of different ones before finding my loves.
Everyone has a range, too, and while the thinner amongst us also might get slammed for social assumptions, I promise you, it's nothing near what the fatter ones must endure. (My range is a fairly small window of Thinner Me to a more cushiony Fatter Me while always being able to fit into my clothes. I'm also able to get down to my "fighting weight" fairly quickly, within 3-6 wks.)
Ideally, everyone should be able to find their best way to be, which is what universal health care should be about (and which should be MORE possible in the US out of anyplace in the world, yet traagically is not.)
I achieved Instructor Class at my dojo(s) and have been working on a sideline "open source" program based on Find Your Menu / Find Your Sport that can flex all incomes and circumstances. Parent
I promise you, it's nothing near what the fatter ones must endure.
You clearly don't have any idea what I must endure on a daily basis and it is offensive for you to assume that it is any less than what "fatter ones" deal with. Parent
Clearly, you didn't bother reading (or deliberately pretend not to comprehend for the purpose of indulging your personal sense of outrage) that the basis of good health and proper care begin with looking at:
- individual body and personality types, predispositions personal responsibilities (work, family, home) lifestyle and simple preferences what anyone does to make him or herself feel good after daily responsibilities can be tweaked to be more healthy. [and that] health and well being isn't as simple as a size, or a number, or a shape. I hope everyone will have universal access to the best medically based, sound advice on feeling well and feeling good.
... as I initially posted. You have to wander pretty far outside the realm of common sense or reasonable understanding of plain English to derive offense from that.
Besides which, it's hardly a "load of crap" that the growing size of the population -- in weight and in number -- experience more neutrally demonstrable discrimination and hostility, not just culturally but in accessing equal opportunities and simple respect.
I'd recommend taking all that offense you're toting around and starting a support group. Parent
I hope that is plain enough for you. Parent
Simply wailing on fat kids or their "failing" parents in Indignation Nation isn't going to accomplish it this.
Corporations and schools have been fattening their budgets while using children and young people as human dumpsters. It's not just up to parents but the whole "village" to change that.
In case I've misinterpreted the direction of your frustration (or didnt't make clear in my own), no one's excusing bad habits. It's no more compassionate to enable mindless eating than it is to use condemnation first and alone to assign blame, and remember that super-sized kids have been trained to eat past pain.
I take your concern for your student as being based on health rather than the visual blight of size. In that case, I'd recommend taking this particular student under your wing as a research assistant for whatever you're teaching, and (for example) having the kid walk to and from the library to retrieve materials for you.
Our collective consumerist mindset, in the land of everything being available 24/7, always, is to regard the process as complete once we get the thing that we immediately want.
That achievement-point should be better viewed as merely the halfway point or even lower, with individual "digestion" (or blowback) being the next phase, and, ecologically, the impact on the environment/community as a whole as the next.
This stuff doesn't tack on a dime. Parent
I was commenting about this with HC/I reform in mind, and which failure has drawn additional hostility towards the slightly to morbidly obese because they're (a) visible and (b) they eat in public and (c) OMFG what if health care money gets "wasted" on them.
Bad habits that the non-fat might be doing and not done as publicly as eating -- which is still legal, last I looked -- and tied to their particular health problems don't immediately draw the ire of passers-by.
Height/weight doesn't tell the full story, nor does BMI. The point is, everyone deserves good health and good health care based on his or her individual makeup. This culling of people (on "moral" grounds) away from potentially accessing it is BS. Parent
That's why hyper-ambitious, yuppie social climbers a,b and c running for President never mention them; the closest they come is "hardworking Americans" ie, blue collar workers in swing-states during primary season.
The established meme is that talking about the poor is "class warfare" -- as if class warfare weren't already occurring and been made respectable by the relative silence about things like NAFTA and the WTO fifteen years ago. Parent
Think drug-induced hallucinations, and the whirly, spirally, tunnel-vision-like patterns of psychedelic imagery immediately spring to mind. But it's not just hallucinogenic drugs like LSD, cannabis or mescaline that conjure up these geometric structures. People have reported seeing them in near-death experiences, as a result of disorders like epilepsy and schizophrenia, following sensory deprivation, or even just after applying pressure to the eyeballs. So common are these geometric hallucinations, that in the last century scientists began asking themselves if they couldn't tell us something fundamental about how our brains are wired up. And it seems that they can.
Who needs drugs when there's the Coen brothers? Parent
[A] year in, the parameters of the Lippman court are coming into focus: he has helped turn the Court of Appeals into a scrappier, more divided and more liberal panel, its rulings and court statistics show. To get the rulings he wants, the decisions show, the new chief judge has built alliances case by case with each of the four judges who were nominated by the last Republican governor, George E. Pataki, cracking the conservative majority. "I am a result-oriented person," Judge Lippman said, "and the result I am looking for is not necessarily unanimity."
"I am a result-oriented person," Judge Lippman said, "and the result I am looking for is not necessarily unanimity."
heres the "note"
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Obviously the man lost it...but I don't know if I'd call him a wingnut teabagger...part of the screed sounds like it coulda been written by Eugene V. Debs.
Seems our systems played a role in driving him mad...not that there is any excuse for what he did...there is none.
Though if our systems don't drive you at least a little bit mad, you're probably the craziest of them all. Parent