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The Greatest Progressive Accomplishment Since Medicare Is . . .

In the words of Jonathan Chait:

a moderate Republican health care plan, by every substantive comparison or definition.

That does not mean it is not the right policy (I think it is not the right reform policy). But it certainly is not progressive reform. It has progressive elements, but the reform element of the health bill is not progressive. It is Republican reform.

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    Funny, we had to elect (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Coral on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:26:25 PM EST
    a Democrat in order to enact a Republican reform. Shows how far right the middle has been shifted by Reagan and Bush years.

    No we didn't. (5.00 / 6) (#2)
    by masslib on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:33:43 PM EST
    We had to elect a Democrat to enact a Democratic reform, he just didn't.

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    What is even more ironic (5.00 / 7) (#3)
    by MO Blue on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:33:46 PM EST
    is that so many Democratic voters suddenly love Republican policies to the point of justifying policies that they abhorred during the Bush years.  

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    The so-called middle as defined (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by inclusiveheart on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:39:13 PM EST
    by the representation on the Hill which I would argue is not actually reflective of the middle in America - particularly in the Senate.

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    Best (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:54:36 PM EST
    campaign slogan someone came up on the other thread:

    Vote for Democrats because they can pass Republican legislation when the GOP can't.

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    That (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 07:40:45 PM EST
    is exactly why they're more dangerous than Republicans.

    I truly believe Social Security privatization is next.  Remember how it got shot down when Bush did it?  Won't when the Messiah does it.

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    Sorry (none / 0) (#8)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 07:41:13 PM EST
    When Bush TRIED to do it.

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    My favorite (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 08:14:55 PM EST
    paragraph of the article is this

    And indeed, this is exactly the case. Obama's plan closely mirrors three proposals that have attracted the support of Republicans who reside within their party's mainstream: The first is the 1993 Senate Republican health plan, which is compared with Obama's plan here, with the similarity endorsed by former Republican Senator Dave Durenberger here. The second is the Bipartisan Policy Center plan, endorsed by Bob Dole, Howard baker, George Mitchell and Tom Daschle, which is compared to Obama's plan here. And the third, of course, is Mitt Romney's Massachusetts plan, which was crafted by the same economist who helped create Obama's plan, and which is rhetorically indistinguishable from Obama's. (The main difference are that Obama's plan cuts Medicare and imposes numerous other cost-saving measures -- which is to say, attempting to craft a national version of Romney's plan would result in something substantially more liberal than Obama's proposal.)

    The main difference between the Republican policies and Obama's is Obama's expands Medicaid.  

    All right already... (3.66 / 3) (#11)
    by MiamiGuy on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 10:46:52 PM EST
    This place is starting to sound like a broken record. (Just think, if Kennedy had gone with Nixon's plan, we might have single-payer by now.) But no looking back. Think of all the goodies we can add to this rudimentary foundation. At least we have that now and can begin improving on it.

    Wrong (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 05:24:17 AM EST
    Nothing is going to be added to this. This is it and the framework is open for tons of abuse.

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    Bob Dole was a moderate Republican? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dan the Man on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 07:36:15 PM EST
    Charles Grassley is a moderate Republican?  Orrin Hatch is a moderate Republican?  Robert Bennett is a moderate Republican?

    Hmmm....

    Not these days...but Nixon? (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by oldpro on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 07:58:36 PM EST
    Looks like we finally enacted his health care plan...or a version of it.  

    Teddy always said his biggest regret was not taking the deal with Nixon.  Senator bi-partisan blew his biggest opportunity for 'the cause of his life.'  Could have helped the Clintons get it in the 90s...but no...so now here we are.

    So pathetic.  And these people dare to call themselves Democrats.

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    Too cynical (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by MiamiGuy on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 12:17:55 AM EST
    Perhaps for you...not for me. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oldpro on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 11:53:50 AM EST
    When you've put 55 years of political activism and $50,000+ of your own working-class dollars into the Democratic Party, THEN you can talk to me about a well-earned cynicism and whether it's too much or not.

    And by the way...I'm female.  I hear no talk of reversing the Hyde Ammendment by the Democratic majorities or the Democratic president.

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    Well, it could have been Republican reform ... (none / 0) (#12)
    by FreakyBeaky on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 11:10:07 PM EST
    ... if the Republican party hadn't gone insane.  

    I guess one of my takeaways is there are a lot of moderate Republicans in the Democratic party, and why not?  They've been driven out of their own party ...

    Yup, and they took over ours (none / 0) (#15)
    by DancingOpossum on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 08:22:02 AM EST
    That's my main concern when people say we liberals should "co-opt" or "take over" the Democratic Party. I understand the desire to work within an existing framework but the problem is, the party has already been co-opted and taken over--by moderate Republicans.

    Jeebus, they are not even that moderate. Nixon was considerably more liberal than any of these guys.

    Among the rights that are the entitlement of every American worker is the right to join a union -- large, small or independent; the right to be protected against racial discrimination and misuse of dues; the right to union elections that are fair and democratic; and the right to be assured of ultimately receiving his or her promised pension benefits.

    ...

    Our urban policies should encourage families and businesses to improve their neighborhoods by means of participation in neighborhood self-help groups, improving and rehabilitating their homes and businesses, and investing in and managing local businesses. We support the revision of federal business assistance programs to encourage joint efforts by local merchants' associations.

    We again support statehood for Puerto Rico, if that is the people's choice in a referendum, with full recognition within the concept of a multicultural society of the citizens' right to retain their Spanish language and traditions; and support giving the District of Columbia voting representation in the United States Senate and House of Representatives and full home rule over those matters that are purely local.

    ...

    Our Party was the first national party to endorse the E.R.A. in 1940. We continue to believe its ratification is essential to insure equal rights for all Americans. [The party] "fully endorses the principle of equal rights, equal opportunities and equal responsibilities for women." The Equal Rights Amendment is the embodiment of this principle and therefore we support its swift ratification.

    All of these statements come from the 1976 Republican Party platform. At that point they also hadn't taken a stance on abortion yet.

    These guys were actually more liberal than the moderate Dems who now run the Democratic party!!