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It just started snowing again here. I'm making a brisket with mashed potatoes and carrots, steamed asparagus and an arugula salad with cucumbers, strawberries, avocado and mozzarella cheese.

What's on your agenda or mind tonight? Is anyone excited about the new foreclosure program?

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Bill Moyers' Journal; Gretchen Morgansen on (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:50:23 PM EST
    banking reform, followed by John Nichols of The Nation and Terry O'Neill, president of NOW, on Health Care Reform.

    From Moyers' blog, The Unbearable Lightness of Reform, in which he and Michael Winship point out how little reform there is and how much government protection of private for-profit health insurance companie, hospitals, and PhRMA.

    The essay opens with this trademark Moyers' reference:

    That wickedly satirical Ambrose Bierce described politics as "the conduct of public affairs for private advantage."

    Bierce vanished to Mexico nearly a hundred years ago - to the relief of the American political class of his day, one assumes - but in an eerie way he was forecasting America's political culture today. It seems like most efforts to reform a system that's gone awry - to clean house and make a fresh start - end up benefiting the very people who wrecked it in the first place.

    Which is why Bierce, in his classic little book, The DEVIL'S DICTIONARY, defined reform as "a thing that mostly satisfies reformers opposed to reformation."

    And health insurance is not the only reform gone squishy under Obama and the Dems: there's also "reform" of the financial sector. Uh huh.

    And the Repubs are working very hard to regain the top level of donations from the Big Banksters:

    So wouldn't it have been fascinating to have been a fly on the wall earlier this year when Boehner sat down for drinks with Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase? Reportedly, he invited Dimon and the rest of the financial community to pony up the cash and see what good things follow.

    According to THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, Republicans already were receiving an increasing share of campaign contributions from the Street. In the game of reform, it's the political version of loading the dice.

    Always good stuff on Moyers' Journal.

    Where will we find anything like this when he's off the air? Word is John Meacham will be brought on to host...something squishy and middle of the center right....

    Anyone know the final broadcast date?
     

    A disturbing report... (none / 0) (#40)
    by desertswine on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:26:48 PM EST
    on natural gas drilling on David Brancaccio's "Now" is on also. Now is going down too. Not sure when but its gotta be pretty soon.

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    Oh my, yes --Watched that. (none / 0) (#48)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:01:12 PM EST
    The fracking is being done all over. Little forced earthquakes underground? What could possibly go wrong with that?

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    Link at Corrente updated with transcript excerpts (none / 0) (#93)
    by jawbone on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 03:03:56 PM EST
    John Nichols says if left doesn't keep up asking for liberal changes on ObamaCare/RomneyCare, then only the right will get their changes (Uh, didn't they already?).

    Terry O'Neill of NOW says the women's movement learned there is not way to ever compromise with the anti-choice rightwads or even anti-choice Dems (I did used to think maybe Dem anti-choice people were a bit more reasonable than the Repubs....no more).

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    Re the new foreclosure program (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by scribe on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:24:27 PM EST
    Speaking as someone who went through foreclosure, I'm not expecting much.  I had the good fortune to be able to sell my old place at something close to market price and to walk away with a few dollars before the foreclosure went to a sheriff's sale;  my foreclosure came about because my practice basically collapsed and I had next to no income.

    There are only things which would make the government foreclosure program worth talking about.  First among them would be repeal of the 2005 Bankruptcy "Reform" Act and allowing bankruptcy judges to cramdown - something which was moving through Congress last year until the banksters pulled their reins and stopped it cold.  

    Second among them would be for there to be real stimulus - putting people to work at real wages doing real things which need doing.  The vast majority of people who are in foreclosure don't relish being there.  They would much rather be working, paying their bills, and raising their families and living their lives.  

    We're not going to see either of those things happen.  If they did happen, the foreclosure program we're hearing about would be far less necessary, though still helpful.  Giving people who are out of the work a three month break in paying their mortgage doesn't help much when they can't find a job.  

    As usual, thin gruel for a limited number of those (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:14:30 PM EST
    in danger of losing their homes.

    Lambert has a post at Corrente.

    This is a nice touch by Obama and the boyz:

    ...borrowers must seek this help, must be collecting unemployment insurance and must be less than 90 days late on their mortgage payments.

    That appears to exclude many of the record 6.1 million Americans who have been jobless for 27 weeks or longer.



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    Or anyone who was self-employed (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by shoephone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:28:11 PM EST
    before currently unemployed. No unemployment insurance for those folks.

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    It never ceases to amaze (5.00 / 4) (#56)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:09:36 PM EST
    me the volume of praise for "small business" as the engine of growth in this country, entirely lacking in any fragment of acknowledgement that a huge proportion of "small business" is us single-person freelancers and self-employed people, who get screwed six ways to Sunday by these programs, never mind the double hit on the "payroll" tax.

    We're are just totally invisible, as far as I can tell.

    I chose this life in preference to being a wage slave in some other jerk's office, and there are a lot of benefits to it, not least of which is the 25-foot commute.

    But if you're God forbid single in this country, God forbid either own your home outright or rent, and God forbid self-employed, you get nuttin' in the way of support.  Zippo.  Even the home office deduction is a joke-- if you're honest about how you calculate it.

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    You're not kidding (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:18:25 PM EST
    I was freelancing for two years, and from what I heard people tell me anecdotally what they were deducting, I thought there were lots of tax breaks. Wrong, if you are honest about it. I am always sure I will be the one in a million that gets caught, so I am probably too scrupulous to ever make it big.

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    I think there's a lot of bragging (none / 0) (#62)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:26:55 PM EST
    that isn't necessarily reality-based, honestly.

    But I'm like you, I'm scrupulously honest and careful about it.  (I know, "Sucker!!!")

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    Probably true (none / 0) (#68)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:45:00 PM EST
    If not I expect a lot of people I know to get audited any day now.

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    You're (none / 0) (#80)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 06:22:45 AM EST
    absolutely right about the home office. I was able to take it for my husband in the 1990's but when they did the major tax overhaul in 2001 he lost it. He no longer has a home office but now I do and I can't take the deduction simply because I'm honest and I do other things in the office like pay bills.

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    Being honest is nice, (none / 0) (#98)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 05:28:27 PM EST
    but check deeper to keep yourself honest. My understanding is that if you declare your home office, and then need/decide to sell your home, the sale will be the sale of a business and be subject to all the appropriate taxes. The only way to avoid that is to close your home office business 3 full years prior to selling the house.


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    Well (none / 0) (#100)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 07:42:08 PM EST
    since I dont take the deduction now it's really kind of moot. I know that it used to be that way in the 90's if you claim a home office more than 3 out of five years which we never did with him so we werent subject to the business tax.

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    It finally acknowledges that (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:11:18 PM EST
    principle modification for underwater loans is needed, not just refinancing into a lower interest rate that still leaves the homeowner little financial incentive to stay in the home. And it lessens the moral hazard by requiring the homeowner to stay in the home at least 3 years if he gets a principle reduction - I would be fine with an even longer term.  

    I think it is too restrictive in making it only available to the recently unemployed, but I understand they are concerned about overwhelming the system with a lot of new applications. Maybe in a year or so they will open it up more.

    All in all I think this is a big improvement over the previous program. Principle modification is a "big f'n deal", and they will take some flack for it, but it has to be done if we really want to deal with the problem.

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    "Principle modification" (none / 0) (#67)
    by Cream City on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:43:17 PM EST
    is what we saw in the health insurance "reform," compromising Democratic Party principles.

    Principal modification is, I think, what you mean.

    Sorry, couldn't resist. . . .

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    lol - very good! (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:47:08 PM EST
    Thank you - I knew it didn't look right, but I did the 'principal is your pal' trick and that didn't help me at all!

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    Foreclosure Reform? (none / 0) (#30)
    by norris morris on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:51:58 PM EST
    This is a short stop gap which delays the inevitable, instead of a real foreclosure program that encompassed real planning and parameters for banks that were lasting or even meaningful.

    As such many don't even know that this is just a short respite. As suggested real jobs would begin to keep people in their homes.

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    Tracy Clark-Fiory (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Spamlet on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:00:47 PM EST
    at Salon has a good roundup of commentary on what the healthcare bill means for women's reproductive self-determination. Highlights:

    Jos Truitt at Feministing
    There will be no payback to reproductive rights organizations. . . . You don't get payback in politics for rolling over. Wins come because you have power and exert it strategically. The pro-choice community in Washington has shown that it did not have the power to live up to its commitment.

    Bronx Family Doctor on Daily Kos:
    Although the Hyde Amendment is repeatedly renewed, it is not a law on the books per se. It must be renewed each year as part of the budget. This means that every year we have the opportunity to get rid of it (although we have as yet been unsuccessful). An executive order, in contrast, would put these provisions on the books until it is rescinded. It is much harder to rescind an executive order than to change language that must be inserted in the budget yearly. Really, what president would stick his neck out for the 1/3 of women who will need abortions? If we are to be guided by history, nobody.



    Executive Order (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:11:49 PM EST
    My reading of it, is quite different. It appears to say that the anti-abortion laws on the books will apply. If the laws are changed the EO does not apply..

    It appears to be only lip service to existing law, not new law. An empty gesture for the anti-abortionists to save face.

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    It's hardly an empty gesture if you are a (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by tigercourse on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:16:46 PM EST
    poor woman.

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    Really? (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:35:22 PM EST
    Well at least a poor woman will be able to get access to health care for everything but an abortion. Given that it makes a lot more sense to fight against women's poverty, particularly along racial lines, than to focus on abortion.

    A net plus, imo.  

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    Yes, I agree their seem to be many positive (none / 0) (#45)
    by tigercourse on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:46:09 PM EST
    things in the new plan. It will take many months/years to see just how effective it will be. I am witholding judgement.

    "everything but an abortion". An abortion is not a trivial thing.

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    Agree, It Is Not Trivial (none / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:56:25 PM EST
    You have no evidence of this (none / 0) (#84)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 09:50:30 AM EST
    and many healthcare providers will not take medicaid.

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    True (none / 0) (#88)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 11:55:49 AM EST
    Personally I have no evidence of the moon and planets either. Many say the so called moonwalk was staged in Hollywood, Iceland or somewhere else on earth.

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    What does BTD call this (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 12:14:27 PM EST
    type of argument?  Know Nothingism?

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    Empirical Knowledge? (none / 0) (#90)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 12:17:40 PM EST
    Or it does not exist? And photographs do not count...

    Right?  

    Hey, come to think of it, I have no knowledge that Obama is really president either.

    If it ain't empirical, it is "Know Nothingism"

    Good one, although I Kant believe it.

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    Sorry (none / 0) (#91)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 12:21:46 PM EST
    I did not realize that you were referring to your own argument, when you invoked the term "Know Nothingism".

    Definition from the Nation:

    Whether the problem is global terrorism or anti-Semitism, the message is the same. "It's bad. It must be condemned. That's all we need to know."



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    Yes It Is An Empty Gesture (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:37:23 PM EST
    Because there is no change from existing law, lots of hoopla from the relatively rich folk about the EO, but no change for women living in poverty,

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    The text of Obama's executive order (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Spamlet on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:56:29 PM EST
    starts out by saying that the EO is needed to

    establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services . . . consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment.

    The EO goes on to say that its purpose is to

    establish a comprehensive, government-wide set of policies and procedures to achieve this goal and to make certain that all relevant actors--Federal officials, state officials (including insurance regulators) and health care providers--are aware of their responsibilities, new and old,

    and that the EO

    maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly-created health insurance exchanges.

    The EO also refers to the Weldon Amendment, which, like the Hyde Amendment, is an annually renewable rider to the annual appropriations bill, not a "law on the books." Or at least they were not "laws on the books" until perhaps now, with their extension to the exchanges.

    I understand and share your concerns about poor women's access to health care. It's not hard to imagine that virtually everybody at TL wants that.

    But the fallacy in your thinking, for me, is twofold: (1) you speak as if a woman's uterus is somehow separate from the rest of her body, and somehow exempt from medical procedures that are not abortion but might still fall into the net cast by Obama's "model segregation guidelines" (yuck); and (2) by doing so, you validate the notion that women in general are obliged to endure discriminatory treatment in exchange for certain medical procedures, and that poor women in particular are obliged to trade full bodily autonomy for access to health insurance.

    I don't like the EO, and maybe you don't either. But I refuse to rationalize it, and I refuse to justify it on the basis of there being (putatively) "no change for women living in poverty." Is that what progressives and feminists proudly stand for now? "No change for women living in poverty"?

    Yes, we do! Evidently.

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    If there is will in the country (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:18:40 PM EST
    to get rid of the Hyde amendment, which I doubt there will be in our lifetimes, there will be will to rescind the executive order.

    I'd sure rather he hadn't done it, but its actual practical impact is nil.


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    There can be will in the country (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Spamlet on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:41:36 PM EST
    to rescind an executive order, but only the president can do so.

    Is there will in the country to rescind any of George W. Bush's executive orders? Yes, but President Obama has left some of the most pernicious ones in place.

    We can always wait for the next Democratic president to rescind Obama's executive order extending the Hyde Amendment. Personally, though, I won't be holding my breath after the Democrats' performance in recent months. As Bronx Family Doctor aptly puts it, "Really, what president would stick his neck out for the 1/3 of women who will need abortions? If we are to be guided by history, nobody."

    This country no longer has a major political party that supports women's bodily self-determination. Instead, we get "model segregation guidelines."

    We've come a long way, no, baby?

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    We've come (5.00 / 5) (#85)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 10:40:10 AM EST
    a darn long way from my youth, when even contraceptives were illegal in my liberal but Catholic NE state.

    Rescinding Obama's EO will make no difference, even if some extraordinarily brave new Dem. president decided to do it (which I doubt) as long as the Hyde amendment remains in place, which it will.

    I just see no opportunity for improvement in this, as I say, in our lifetimes.  Public opinion has hardened on it and even the pols who don't particularly want to will go along.

    I think the energy is better spent on supporting and funding private non-profits that can continue to provide access to abortion services and expand them further if at all possible.

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    Yes, everything helps (none / 0) (#97)
    by Spamlet on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 04:30:16 PM EST
    I think the energy is better spent on supporting and funding private non-profits that can continue to provide access to abortion services and expand them further if at all possible.

    But I think it's also important to protest, loudly, as women's right to bodily autonomy is abridged in increments, and to name the perpetrators, including those who belong to a political party that claims, falsely, to value and protect that very right.

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    Terry O'Neill gave some backstory on the Stupak (none / 0) (#38)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:19:55 PM EST
    mess and resulting executive order.

    Lesson to be learned: Do not negotiate with your own damn self(selves).

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    Had dinner at Margaritaville (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:24:03 PM EST
    with my friends who are in town courtesy of Ellen Degeneres. (thanks Ellen!). An old friend won a trip to Universal Orlando on the Ellen show a couple of weeks ago, and this is the weekend the show is taping in Orlando, so here they are!  It was so great to see her and her husband and two of their beautiful triplet girls. They look just like Sue did when we were 15, so it was an odd feeling.

    Wonderful to have such an old and dear friend nearby.

    Fresh mozzarella? (none / 0) (#1)
    by observed on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:34:55 PM EST
    what kind of dressing?

    walnut raspberry vinaigrette (none / 0) (#9)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:01:03 PM EST
    Sounds really, really good. (none / 0) (#15)
    by scribe on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:10:27 PM EST
    Tonight at Casa Scribe, it was roast leg quarter of chicken with roast veg (onion, carrot, celery) and scalloped potatoes and peas.

    The dog is bemoaning her fate - to smell, but not eat, what I'm cooking.

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    Ha, that was my guess. My mom (none / 0) (#16)
    by observed on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:16:16 PM EST
    used to make a similar salad---with fruits and avocado--and used that dressing.


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    The best (none / 0) (#25)
    by ZtoA on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:29:19 PM EST
    olive oil available, a little course salt and some great bread on the side.

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    I second that one (none / 0) (#53)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:57:46 PM EST
    and fresh basil

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    How do you make your brisket? (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:39:41 PM EST
    My family bakes it with Onions, carrots, and onion soup mix.

    recipe (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:04:47 PM EST
    saute lots of onions and a bit of garlic in olive oil, add brisket, salt, pepper and Hungarian paprika and brown on both sides.

    Add 1 can Swanson's or Pacific Time's beef broth and a six ounce can of tomato or v8 juice (or small can tomato sauce) and 1/2 cup of sweet vermouth.

    Simmer for 2 1/2 hours, add carrots. Cook another hour.

    Usually I add cut up peeled potatoes with the carrots, but the TL kid loves my mashed potatoes so I'm doing that tonight.


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    Variations on a theme (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:07:05 PM EST
    Sounds great.

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    Dump the onion soup mix. (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by itscookin on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:14:54 PM EST
    Gently sautee some sliced onions in a mix of olive oil and butter until they are golden brown. Butter for flavor, olive oil to raise the burn temp. Do it for onion soup, onion dip, brisket, or anything else you use that vile stuff for.

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    Hey, that's not fair (none / 0) (#44)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:38:52 PM EST
    It's a longstanding family recipe, and nothing tastes quite like it. Some people use Ketchup.

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    My grandson would probably love it (none / 0) (#49)
    by MO Blue on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:12:54 PM EST
    He is of the firm opinion that Ketchup is one of the major food groups.

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    Teresa Heinz would appreciate that ;-) (none / 0) (#50)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:17:59 PM EST
    Probably not (none / 0) (#72)
    by MO Blue on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 12:27:09 AM EST
    I think they buy from her competitor.

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    Ooh (none / 0) (#73)
    by andgarden on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 12:41:13 AM EST
    People get very attached to their brands, don't they? If I've had a choice, I don't think I've ever bought Hunt's Ketchup, Kraft Mayo, or anything Pepsi.

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    I do it in a pressure cooker now (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:46:27 PM EST
    Smart (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:51:47 PM EST
    because you want to break down the collagen. My experience is that Jewish style preparation allows for a final product that's somewhat chewier than what you'd get with, say, barbecue.

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    Did you know that cheese tenderizes (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by observed on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:18:57 PM EST
    meat? I learned a simple flank steak preparation from a greek chef---stuff it with feta, spinach and oregano. The meat is always very tender; another chef explained that it's because of enzymes in the cheese.

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    Even easier to marinate (none / 0) (#23)
    by BackFromOhio on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:28:19 PM EST
    flank steak with soy sauce, brown sugar and some herbs; makes steak verrrry tender.

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    Heh...my cooking tends to get on (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:56:57 PM EST
    the chewy side simply by the touch of my hand :)  The pressure cooker helps me a lot on a few items and seems to make up for a lack of skill, and I had a friend recommend a brisket marinade that I order online but it only takes a couple of spoonfuls.  My Aunt's new beau was talking about some sort oven that he got at Kohl's though that cooks meat....some new technology, I need to figure out what he is talking about.  He likes his meat moist and he claims that it cooks wonderful moist meats.  I had forgotten about looking into it until just now.

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    Found it (none / 0) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:02:22 PM EST
    He has this Nuwave Oven, swears by it.

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    I had osso bucco and belgian (none / 0) (#5)
    by observed on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:46:41 PM EST
    beer tonight. I found a great fresh pasta and pizza place near me, but they also had osso bucco as a special. It was served on risotto.
    I'm SOOOO full.

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    Beer (none / 0) (#13)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:07:35 PM EST
    I like it cooked with beer:

    Onion, carrot, tomato paste, potato, turnip, olive oil, pepper, bay leaf, celery, chili sauce, dark beer, marjoram, paprika, chicken broth...

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    Leeks and pumpkin! (none / 0) (#17)
    by Cream City on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:18:26 PM EST
    My new Australian family member is mad for adding leeks and pumpkins to many dishes -- and visiting there, I became persuaded.

    (Beats turnips.)

    Who knew pumpkin was for more than pies?  It's in so many savory Australian dishes, and it's just wonderful.  (Other squash, too, but they love their pumpkin.)

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    lots of fresh pumpkin where I am (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by observed on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:45:11 PM EST
    i'll have to try that.


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    I love leeks (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:20:17 PM EST
    Never considered pumpkin though...even though I love pumpkin soup.

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    You want to get some of the (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by scribe on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:48:52 PM EST
    Austrian green pumpkins for soup, also known as Styrian Oil pumpkins (Scroll down).  They're grown primarily for their seeds - the source of the ridiculously expensive pumpkin seed oil - but make good soup.  And cake.

    Serious Armeleuteessen (poor peoples' food) that will leave you sated.

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    I know it sounds weird (none / 0) (#24)
    by Cream City on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:28:33 PM EST
    but it's so good, as pumpkin soaks up seasonings.  My favorite find in Australia was a veggie mix including pumpkin on pasta.  But also had it in sandwiches, with shrimp on the barbie -- and, of course, with lamb, lamb, and more lamb. . . .

    Oh, also pumpkin soup.  Delicious.

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    All very healthy (none / 0) (#26)
    by BackFromOhio on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:29:50 PM EST
    too.

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    Yummmmm (none / 0) (#33)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:06:44 PM EST
    Loove leeks, and pumpkin... can't take pumpkin pie though for some reason, never appealed to me.

    Pumpkin is just squash, I used to eat a lot of it during my macrobiotic days...

    Spaghetti squash is nice too... whatever pasta dish, just substitute spaghetti squash presto...

    Just with butter, spice is nice too.. a little parmesan salt and pepper..

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    We just had fajitas and margaritas (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 07:45:50 PM EST
    The boys are playing vid games now and I was reading the news.  It is warming here finally.  I trimmed the mostly frozen lime tree way back yesterday.  Went outside to take out the trash after dark and it is beginning to get noisy out there a little bit.  On a summer's night down here, it is noisier than daylight hours.  The azaleas are on the brink of blooming.  The fleas, skeeters, and ticks are coming too (though I have managed to keep my dogs tick free since moving here...haven't had one on them yet), but sorry pups.

    Sounds Mouthwatering (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:09:05 PM EST
    And perfect for your weather conditions. It got cold here in NYC, too..

    Had a shot of snow this morning (none / 0) (#22)
    by scribe on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:27:31 PM EST
    early, the clear, cold and windy all day.  Gonna get down into the teens tonight - after being like 70 a week ago.

    But, I saw a couple robins this afternoon while walking the dog, and the other birds are all singing their spring songs.  You know them.  The ones that lead off with "hey, baby...".

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    Below freezing today (none / 0) (#20)
    by Cream City on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:21:36 PM EST
    and above freezing tonight, then 50s tomorrow.

    Spring, such as it always is here -- where anything like spring for others arrives here about June 6.

    And then on June 7, it could be in the 90s.  

    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:04:11 PM EST
    We're heading down to a predicted 8 or 9 tonight, and I'm not even in Alaska!

    PITA to have it this late, frankly, but I'll take four seasons over one any time.

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    TL-- (none / 0) (#29)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:51:34 PM EST
    Have you been following the Erin Toll saga at all?  

    Or see that... (none / 0) (#31)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 08:56:32 PM EST
    Stan Garnett is considering a run at the AG's office?

    I hope he does--there should be some blow-back against Suthers and his grandstanding stupidity (and waste of fund we don't have).

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    no but I have been (none / 0) (#60)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:20:36 PM EST
    following the whistleblower suit filed by a couple of former state cops on a federal-state drug task force against the DEA this week, it's much more interesting I think. More here. Now the FBI is investigating.

    I'd love to know which other cases besides the Tang case the cops are alleging were compromised. Their complaint refers to other cases but names no names.

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    Looks like Bostridge/Drake/Brahms (none / 0) (#39)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:20:55 PM EST
    Will be @ Alice Tully Wed.

    Jerome Robbins' New York Export-A ballet in tennis (none / 0) (#47)
    by jawbone on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 09:59:14 PM EST
    shoes" was shown on Ch 13 in NYC Thursday on Great Performances, and it was wonderful, exciting, beautiful dance. From the 50's, performed by current New York City Ballet students. The film was made by two of the students with two young filmmakers.

    Just fantastic with several segments done outdoors (a huge empty swimming pool), schools, theaters, and a sensuous, sinuous pas de deux performed on the Highline (before it was improved as a park). Breathtaking...and heavy breathing at the same time.

    Brought back how great well presented dance can be on TV.

    A ">10 minute documentary about Robbins' Opus Jazz is also shown.

    In the NYC area Ch 13 is showing it again on Sunday afternoon. I have to watch it, record it. again.

    The pas de deux is available for viewing: 4:52 long. And the NYC twilight seen from the Highline is not to be missed.

    made Amish sweet bread (none / 0) (#54)
    by addy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 10:57:56 PM EST
    from scratch last night. No one likes it. I made the mistake of only letting it rise for an hour which was according to the recipe. I have to learn to use my own eyes and not go by the book. Kinda chewy. I like it though.

    How is Amish sweetbread (none / 0) (#63)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:30:21 PM EST
    different from other sweetbreads?

    Can't really go by the book on baking anything, I've found.  Ambient temperatures vary too widely and flour varies too widely, too.  But few recipes or cookbooks give you enough guidance to modify your method/recipe to compensate for your particular conditions.

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    You got me on the name (none / 0) (#64)
    by addy on Fri Mar 26, 2010 at 11:34:35 PM EST
    It's the name on the recipe. Perhaps as an out for those of us who bake badly. We can use an interesting name to explain its....unusual texture.
    And you are so right about conditions. My new rule for baking will be, leave the wine bottle in the fridge till the second rising is done. Let's see how long THAT new rule lasts.

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    Have you tried King Arthur? (none / 0) (#82)
    by itscookin on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 08:53:18 AM EST
    The recipes they have online are great, and the people who run their test kitchen have a blog and will answer email or phone questions. Since they are in Vermont, they have no way to test recipes for high altitude changes, but there are commenters on the blog who do it for them. We lived in Chicago for awhile and were missing the deep dish pizza. King Arthur's recipe is every bit as good as the original Uno's. My kids call home and request "take-out".

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    KA flour is (none / 0) (#86)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 10:52:43 AM EST
    one of the problems for a lot of people, actually.  Its main brand has higher protein than other flours, which can make a really noticeable difference in the texture/tenderness of a lot of baked goods.  I'm sure their own recipes take that into account, but it's not widely known and I think it creates a lot of discouraged and frustrated bakers.

    I know it did for me. I could not for the life of me figure out why I couldn't make tender biscuits, try as I might, until I picked up a bag of Gold Medal or Pillsbury or something and presto!  I thought it must be the bleaching that made the difference and felt guilty about using it.  But I subsequently finally learned, thanks to Cook's Illustrated, that it's not the bleaching, it's the protein content.

    You frequently can't even to find unbleached flour with the right protein content in a lot of supermarkets, so folks who want to avoid the bleached stuff end up with KA and don't know why they're having trouble.

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    I've never had trouble with KA flour. (none / 0) (#92)
    by itscookin on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:19:36 PM EST
    My bread always rises, the crust is either tender or crusty depending on what I'm shooting for, and the taste is wonderful. Ditto for pastry. When I'm baking a cake, I use their cake flour, and I've never had bad results with that either. The culinary school I attended only used KA so that could be part of it, too. I like Gold Medal, but unless I freeze the flour for a few days before I open the bag, and use the flour quickly, I often find myself with a miller moth infestation. Not great in a professional kitchen. I go through a lot of flour. I like to read Cook's Illustrated, but I don't always agree with the results of their "taste tests". Their peanut butter cookie recipe is to die for, but their chocolate chip not so much. They don't really do all that much with different kinds of artisan breads. I had the privilege of cooking with Christopher Kimball for an evening, and in person he's a real bore. lol

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    Kimball a bore? (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 03:25:05 PM EST
    Nah!! <snark>

    I'm not a bread maker, but if I recall right, "bread flour" is generally higher in protein than regular, no?  If so, KA is perfect for it.  But biscuits, pie crust, cookies if you're aiming for tenderness just don't work right.

    Agreed 100 percent on the CI taste tests (just tried their recommended Worcestershire sauce and thought it was really lame), but they're pretty good about spelling out as fully as possible what their criteria are, so you can often tell whether you're going to agree or not.  And you're right, they don't do much with bread.

    For me, probably the most valuable stuff they do is figuring out how to cook various kinds of meat.  It's so different than it used be that the time-tested old ways of cooking it just don't work right anymore.

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    Culinary school and pastry? (none / 0) (#101)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:24 AM EST
    You are a dangerous person :) I have good eating habits, only one thing causes me to lose it....good pastry.  Heck, I'll begin to lose reason around bad pastry.

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    I remember their talking about KA flour having (none / 0) (#94)
    by jawbone on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 03:07:35 PM EST
    protein, but I can't recall what baked goods it really affects adversely.  My recollection, from on of their TV programs, is that it didn't matter for all things.

    Do you know? T/U.

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    It doesn't matter for all things (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 03:27:56 PM EST
    but as above, I find where a softer flour makes a difference is in biscuits, pie crust and cookies you really want to be tender, like sugar cookies.

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    AP says US draw down date might (none / 0) (#75)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:00:00 AM EST
    be impacted.  Ya think?  Elected leader says hell no, I won't go.  What next?

    Well (none / 0) (#76)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:08:38 AM EST
    If al Sadr gets power, the US withdrawl schedule is likely to speed up.

    Allawi has 30 days to get the needed 163 seats, if not presumably al-Maliki's Party of Law will allign with the National Alliance of which al Sadr is a major force.

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    NYT, without elaborating, (none / 0) (#77)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:26:37 AM EST
    seems to say if there is violence U.S. drawn down may slow down:  NYT

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#78)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:34:26 AM EST
    We'll see. NYT is not so credible, imo. I find it somewhat hard to believe that Allawi, the US favorite by a mile, won legitimately.

    If there is violence, I do not think that the US will have clean hands.

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    al Sadr is Key (none / 0) (#79)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 02:44:30 AM EST
    It seems unlikely that anyone can become prime minister without the Sadr Bloc, now the majority component inside the Iraqi National Alliance. Sadr may well demand as a quid pro quo for joining any Iraqi government that the new PM pledge to accelerate the timetable for US troop withdrawal from Iraq, and also promise to end that troop presence altogether.

    The difficult road ahead is indicated by the recent denunciation of al-Maliki by both Muqtada al-Sadr and Ammar al-Hakim for his initial warning that "violence" might break out if the ballots are not recounted. Muqtada called the implied threat of violence "political terrorism," thus ironically turning the tables on al-Maliki, who had hunted down Sadr-linked Mahdi Army commanders on the grounds that they were terrorists.

    Juan Cole

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    Reading about the various reactions (none / 0) (#81)
    by andgarden on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 07:31:06 AM EST
    it seems that few were prepared to accept a result that did not have their preferred party win. You cannot have democratic governance in a situation like that.

    You Mean Like (none / 0) (#87)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 11:54:03 AM EST
    What Gore did?

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    LOL (none / 0) (#99)
    by Spamlet on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 05:33:32 PM EST
    It would be fun to take up this old fight!

    But duty calls. We're expecting a visit any minute from my sister-in-law, who has Asperger's. Between her attempts to pick fights, constant demands for attention, and incessant efforts to generally stir things up in a pointless, repetitive, tiresome way, she will really keep us on our toes.

    Maybe another time.

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    Focus on education may reduce unemployment (none / 0) (#83)
    by Politalkix on Sat Mar 27, 2010 at 08:55:08 AM EST
    The numbers tell the story. The economy is undergoing a structural shift.