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The Regulatory State, The Unitary Executive And Civil Libertarians

Walter Dellinger's piece on Elena Kagan (it reaches similar conclusions to my own piece) raises important questions for progressives regarding a desire for a strong regulatory state while at the same time fearing a strong President. Dellinger writes:

Kagan's 2001 Harvard Law Review article "Presidential Administration[]" [. . .] does not endorse anything remotely like the Bush-Cheney view of broad presidential power to evade laws passed by Congress. [. . .] Kagan's views on the president's power to direct the executive branch are in fact fully consistent with the positions taken by Justice Stevens. [. . .]

As a matter of policy, moreover, Kagan writes that she sees presidential supervision of federal agencies "as a mechanism to achieve progressive goals" in areas such as environmental protection. [. . . ] The Bush-Cheney view of executive power was wrong not because it asserted that the president could direct administrative agencies to achieve policy goals. It was wrong because it allowed for the president to ignore decisions made by Congress and assert unilateral power to violate duly enacted laws. That is a view of presidential power that Kagan expressly rejects. She believes that the president has to comply with the law, writing that, "If Congress, in a particular statute, has stated its intent with respect to presidential involvement, then that is the end of the matter."

(Emphasis supplied.) This was the point I made in my post earlier this week. But Dellinger continues to an equally significant point:

Presidential leadership of the executive branch is a progressive doctrine, as its lineage through FDR shows. What should concern progressives—and concern them greatly—is the assertion of presidential power to break laws Congress has passed. Kagan is firmly on the other side—the side of rule of law that values limiting presidential abuses. She wrote in her article, "The President has no greater warrant than an agency official to exceed the limits of statutory authority."

(Emphasis supplied.)In my piece, I wrote:

In light of the passage of a health bill highly dependent upon strong and activist government regulation and the proposal of a financial reform that inherently will depend on strong and activist regulation, Kagan's argument is, in my view, a progressive one. Indeed, I would argue that Kagan's view of a unitary Executive will be essential if the health bill and financial reform are to have any chance of success.

Celebrating the SEC's enforcement action against Goldman Sachs, Chris Bowers wrote:

Two of the main schools of thought on financial reform are those who seek reform through new regulations, and those who seek reform through criminal prosecution. If you will forgive me for sounding like David Brooks for a moment, in this article I will refer to them as "the New Regulators" versus "the Punishers."

The New Regulators do not believe reform is possible without changing existing law surrounding the finance industry. The Punishers do not believe reform is possible without at least some of the people responsible for the crisis going to jail. This is largely a conflict of emphasis, between those who those who view the regulations, and those who view the regulators, as the main problem.

While Chris' explanation of the schools of thought is frankly wrong (it is more a question of whether controlling the size of financial institutions (the "too big to fail" problem) is necessary to properly structure the financial markets versus controlling the activities of financial institutions. Krugman v. Volcker is where this debate is at. But Chris does get to the point I want to talk about - how can we have faith in regulation and does Presidential control over the regulatory agencies breed confidence and accountability?

Kagan, Dellinger and I all believe it does. And we believe that this is the traditional progressive view of the question.

This is why I read with some amusement Matt Yglesias's tipping of Dellinger's article as "Walter Dellinger says Elena Kagan is too a civil libertarian." Well, yes, but Dellinger's more important point is that Kagan is a progressive on the question of Presidential power over the Executive Branch.

This is a question quite apart from the issue of whether Kagan is a civil libertarian. Indeed, all Dellinger says about that issue is:

The Bush-Cheney view of executive power was wrong not because it asserted that the president could direct administrative agencies to achieve policy goals. It was wrong because it allowed for the president to ignore decisions made by Congress and assert unilateral power to violate duly enacted laws. That is a view of presidential power that Kagan expressly rejects. She believes that the president has to comply with the law, writing that, "If Congress, in a particular statute, has stated its intent with respect to presidential involvement, then that is the end of the matter."

(Emphasis supplied.) Insisting that a President must abide by laws duly enacted to Congress should not be viewed as being a "civil libertarian." Only in the warped view of the Bush Administration could it be so. To discover whether Kagan is a civil libertarian (I strongly suspect she is in the conventional sense; the questions regarding the War on Terror are worthy of a series of posts and beyond the purview of this one), it seems clear to me that direct questions will have to be put to her by the Senate.

The real point of Dellinger's article in my view is to first, set the record straight on what Kagan means and thinks about the "unitary Executive" theory, and second, to explain why those views are progressive.

Yglesias should understand this point. I thought it was the point he was making when he challenged Scott Lemiuex's position that liberal means ONLY civil libertarian. It is why I wrote my post When Did Statist Become A Dirty Word?.

In fact, a stray sentence from an Yglesias post on medical loss ratios makes the point in the best way:

[HHS Secretary] Kathleen Sebelius is working on this issue but I think we can expect a lot of back-and-forth between regulators and insurers over this kind of thing for the next 10-15 years.

Who gets to direct Kathleen Sebelius (and her successors) on how she should "work on this issue?" It is Kagan's view, and as Dellinger and I point out, the progressive view, that the President should, to the degree that the Congress has provided such discretion. I can't tell you whether Elena Kagan is a civil libertarian, but I can say her writing on the unitary Executive are progressive.

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    It took me forever to finish (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Maryb2004 on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 09:15:40 AM EST
    reading that Law Review Article she wrote so I'm going to drop this comment here rather than back in the previous thread.  But the one point she consistently makes is that the President's ability to issue direction is not, in and of itself, progressive or conservative.  It can be used to achieve progressive or conservative goals.  It is a tool of policy and it is the policy that is progressive or conservative.

    It may be that progressives, historically, have been more likely to desire desire that the President use directives because progressives affirmatively believe in the use of govt. to achieve policy ends where conservatives consistently rail against government.  But I think that the Bush II administration narrowed that divide and I doubt that future conservative administrations will hesitate to use it.

    The problem I had with Kagan's article may have been due to the fact that it was written in 2001 and hindsight is 20/20. But she seemed to me to display an incredible naivete about the willingness, much less the practical ability, of Congress to work to rein in the President.  Those of us who expected Congress to protect its perogatives were appalled to see it roll over to Bush II on everything.

    Also her article focused mainly on the check that a divided government would bring. Presumably she thinks that a congress of the same party as the President would have the same policy goals as the president and would have no incentive to check him?  At that point you have a Congress that has ceded much authority to the President and we all know that once the Presidency gets power it is very difficult to get it back - even under a new Congress.

    It is true that article makes clear that she doesn't see the President having unchecked power on domestic issues.  

    Personally, I would prefer a nominee who espouses a clear liberal viewpoint rather than a nominee whose viewpoint can be found in one law review article and, perhaps, one speech.  

    A very reasonable view (none / 0) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 09:24:39 AM EST
    Elect a President willing to nominate such a person, and you are in business.

    This President is not one who will do that.

    But I urge you to lobby him, figuratively, on it.

    My point here is to try and clarify what Kagan said and what it means. It clearly does not mean what Greenwald said it means.

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    It would be interesting (none / 0) (#4)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 10:02:36 AM EST
    to hear/see how she might rework this to take into account the abuses of the Bush administration.

    But seems to me the question of the willingness of Congress to rein in presidential behavior is a political one, and she's addressing the constitutional issue in the Law Review piece, no?

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    Is that how you interpret the article? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Maryb2004 on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 01:35:53 PM EST
    That she was only addressing the constitutional issues?  If so, what were all those other pages about then?

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    The question... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Dadler on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 08:37:17 AM EST
    ...is will she continue to act on this belief in limited executive power when she must apply it to the man who put her on the court?  When she knows she is the final word, when all eyes will be on her, when she knows the executive branch believes her decision will harm the nation's safety and security.  When the real heat is on.

    We shall see.

    I'd really like to know (none / 0) (#5)
    by masslib on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18:55 AM EST
    where she stands on labor law, environmental law, shareholder rights, etc..

    I have to agree, Dems loved the unitary executive when it was FDR, and repubs hated it.  I think the arguments for/against are typically politically motivated.  Congress should and can use it's position as a an equal branch of government to push back against the power grab of any given President.  There should be that friction.

    Which is why (none / 0) (#6)
    by jbindc on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 10:25:32 AM EST
    Many people believe it's best to have divided government and a president of one party and a majority Congress of another.  Of course, it didn't work that way with a Dem congress and Bush, but that's how it should work in theory,

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    Hmmm, I'm pretty sure (none / 0) (#7)
    by masslib on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 10:27:43 AM EST
    the best domestic legislation to come of the last century occurred under Democratic Presidents with a Democratic Congress, but that is my liberal bias.

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    Taking a short cut because (none / 0) (#8)
    by oldpro on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 01:14:53 PM EST
    I haven't done enough reading on the subject (yet)...what does she say about presidential signing statements...and what do you say, Big Tent?  Where do they fit in "that is the end of the matter"...?

    I'm curious too about how you (and Kagan)see the Justice Department fulfilling it's obligations under the described unitary executive and the question you raise:  "does Presidential control over the regulatory agencies breed confidence and accountability?"  Or isn't the Justice Dept. included in rregulatory agencies?

    The Justice Dep't (none / 0) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 03:31:05 PM EST
    is a part of the Executive Branch and is subject to the control of the President is my view.

    I disagree with most liberals on this point.

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    And even if it isn't, (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 04:40:48 PM EST
    the President can always find a Bork to do his firing.

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    OK. How's about signing statements? (none / 0) (#12)
    by oldpro on Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 11:20:36 PM EST