Broncos Pick Tebow

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Colorado News
Posted on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:40:00 AM EST
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I get to put this in the "Colorado News" section. As I have stated repeatedly, though I live and die with the Gators, Tim Tebow does not have the skills to be a good NFL QB. The Broncos made a mistake here imo.

That said, picking Tebow is certainly better than picking the most overrated player in this draft - Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen. While it is conceivable that Tebow can be made into a good NFL QB, in my view, Clausen has no upside. He is as good as he will ever be, and that is not even conceivably good enough.

Sam Bradford, assuming the medical issues are settled, is not only a good pick because he was by far the best QB prospect, he was the best player in the draft (better than Suh, Berry and McCoy.) 3 Gators were picked in the 1st round, Tebow at 25, CB Joe Haden at 7 by the Browns and Maurkice Pouncey at 18 by the Steelers. Pouncey is a sure thing. Haden was picked too high, but I love him.

I'll make this an Open Thread.

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Denver is the first NFL team to draft a chaplin. (5.00 / 2) (#12)
by Buckeye on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:38:45 AM EST

I heard they're going to rename (none / 0) (#30)
by scribe on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 12:13:46 PM EST

the Denver stadium. Something about "Sanctimony at Mile High".

I don't know whether Tebow will be a bust or not. I do know he has a strong will to win and that counts for something.


The most interesting thing (none / 0) (#31)
by lilburro on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 12:30:44 PM EST

about Tebow that I know is his sartorial sense is...interesting.


: That's what happens when you (none / 0) (#38)
by scribe on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:54:00 PM EST

get home-schooled. You get to be a grown-up thinking, among other things, that homespun is high fashion and that guys wearing the same thing (but not a uniform) is unremarkable.

Strong will to wind (none / 0) (#45)
by jondee on Sat Apr 24, 2010 at 12:02:17 AM EST

up with the record for concussions in the shortest period of time, too, if he keeps leading with his head on those scrambles.


For MKS.... (5.00 / 0) (#29)
by Dr Molly on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 12:02:39 PM EST

Acidification of oceans and consequences.

: The Oceans continue to suffer (none / 0) (#42)
by MKS on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 03:14:40 PM EST

It really is a shame.....The oceans are fragile....not as endless as people think.
It is only the first 300-400 hundred feet that contain the sea life that we are familiar with.
And it really is in the first 200 feet or so where sun and ocean meet that the miracle of life is created--where photosynthesis occurs and the plankton live and the food chain begins.
There is no place else like it in the universe. Scientists turn cartwheels when they find microsopic ice on other planets. Water is life and it is such a thin layer that covers the earth.
....I'll go watch the draft now....

Another Paul Hornung! (none / 0) (#1)
by Gerald USN Ret on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:29:56 AM EST

-- maybe.

Let me be more specific. (none / 0) (#2)
by Gerald USN Ret on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:31:28 AM EST

Tebow is perhaps another Paul Hornung. Not Clausen!

: Paul Horning? Surely (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by brodie on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:57:00 AM EST

you jest! At least as to off the field exploits.
Of course, if somehow TT can shed some of the holier-than-thou stuff and stop proselytizing for his peculiar version of Jesus and start acting more like a Horning or Namath (but not Roethlisberger), then I might actually start rooting for the Broncos again. Not gonna happen though.
On the field, I just don't see Tebow as quite the nimble and versatile run-pass threat that Golden Boy Horning was. He's too big and while not slow, not that quick either.
If he loses 25-30 lbs, maybe he can come close to some Steve Young scrambling ability, though he'll still be well short of Young's throwing ability and short of Michael Vick's quickness and speed combination.

: I envision him as a big (none / 0) (#3)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:45:07 AM EST

Bobby Layne type on the field-- not that good, but "good enough to win." Off the field, I expect Tebow's behavior to be, well, NOT emulating Bobby Layne, at least in consumption of john barleycorn.

While the economy crashed, SEC was (none / 0) (#4)
by Inspector Gadget on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:51:09 AM EST

watching porn on their company computers.

Just another day in our gov't protecting the well-being of the country and its citizens.

That just says it all... (5.00 / 3) (#8)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:00:10 AM EST

at least we goof off at work at educational Talkleft, not spankthemonkey.com...and we get our work done.


when I saw the numbers (none / 0) (#6)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:57:06 AM EST

of times, I was surprised. one person viewed either 16,000 images or websites in a month?

It's hard work checkin those pron sites for SEC violations, I suppose. Glad I don't have that job. Blech.

Sixteen THOUSAND? in 160 hours? ten per hour...

I would say someone needs a new hobby.


: bad math on my part-- 100 per hour (none / 0) (#15)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:57:40 AM EST

Eight hours (none / 0) (#33)
by Zorba on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 01:42:44 PM EST

a day???? Who could watch that much porn? Wouldn't it have been nice if that senior attorney (and the rest) had spent just half that time investigating people like Bernie Madoff and companies like Goldman Sachs? Are any of these bozos going to get fired? I think I'd thoroughly wipe down and sanitize their offices before assigning them to anyone else, though- I bet some of them were doing more than just "viewing" at work. Eeeeeewww.


Just what a team with a miserable offense (none / 0) (#5)
by magster on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:56:01 AM EST

that closed out a season 2-8 needs -- a project at QB following the trade of Brandon Marshall.

Maybe the inspiring words of a passage cited on Tebow's eye-black can provide me solace on this dark day in Broncos history.

So, there I was, waiting to see who (none / 0) (#19)
by Anne on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:05:54 AM EST

the Ravens would draft at 25, when it was announced that we had traded our pick to Denver, for Demver's 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks. At first, I thought that was insane, but then I realized that when we acquired Anquan Boldin from Arizona, we gave up a 3rd and 4th round pick for him - so getting Denver's picks in those rounds, higher up the board than what our own would have been, essentially means we ended up acquiring Boldin for our 1st round pick.

Ozzie Newsome, the Ravens GM, said that the deal with Denver was so good that they would not have passed it up even if the Cowboys had not taken Dez Bryant.

Pending Baltimore's picks, the final word isn't in on which team made the better decision, but at this stage it looks to me like the Ravens come out on top. If I were a Denver fan, I'd be wondering what the heck McDaniels was thinking...


: Congrats (none / 0) (#21)
by ruffian on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:11:26 AM EST

Hope the Ravens do well on the field. Seems like that is where they concentrated their efforts. How quaint!

: The Ravens (none / 0) (#32)
by Makarov on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 01:05:00 PM EST

unquestionably make out very, very well.
For comparison, Denver payed more for Tebow than the Redksins did for Donovan McNabb (2010 2nd, and 2011 conditional 4th).

Egad (none / 0) (#7)
by DancingOpossum on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 08:58:04 AM EST

And they are apparently stupid about computer usage, too.

Love the fact that it was all senior execs, who probably screamed and ranted every time one of their underpaid assistants made a personal phone call or took an extra-long lunch break.

: Some corrolary to "fiddling (none / 0) (#10)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:00:38 AM EST

while Rome burns" is entering my thoughts...

: Different rules for different fools... (none / 0) (#11)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:02:24 AM EST

it's the American way D.O.P.
I'm further left to wonder if we all wouldn't be better served by anarchy, as opposed to different rules/different fools.

The Left Margin of the TL site (none / 0) (#9)
by Inspector Gadget on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:00:12 AM EST

Am I the only one who has a problem with some hidden link about 4 inches down the left margin of the TL site?

If I scroll with my cursor in the left margin, a link to createapetition at change.org appears and instantly opens a new window to that site. It's positioned at just about exactly one wheel scroll down from the top headline.

Crazy day... (none / 0) (#13)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:51:40 AM EST

in the ghetto-burbs yesterday...the guy I see every morning putting his son on the school bus who lives directly next door got locked up, allegedly he's pulled a string of armed robberies over the last year.

Crazy stuff...seemed like a really nice guy. I wonder if the job market had anything to do with it, I used to see a landscaping truck drop him off, but not in a long while. And I didn't see his son waiting for the bus this morning, hope he's ok.

Tebow will sell a lot of merchandise (none / 0) (#16)
by ruffian on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:02:34 AM EST

This is not about football.

: Only if he changes his # (none / 0) (#18)
by magster on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:05:02 AM EST

There are already a lot of Brandon Marshall jerseys out there.

: I'll expand on that (none / 0) (#20)
by ruffian on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:07:18 AM EST

It was my sense when I left Denver that the Broncos were starting to become the Cubs of the NFL. The fan base is so loyal that the team does not have to win anymore to do well financially. All they have to do is pump popular players through the system. Tebow will be a big hit with 'the base' even if he barely plays.

Plastic laminated cards celebrating (none / 0) (#17)
by ruffian on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:03:54 AM EST

Earth Day...such was yesterday's brain child of the major American corporation to which I subcontract.

I kid you not.

New meaning... (none / 0) (#22)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:19:26 AM EST

to Classic Coke...Coca-Colla hits the shelves in Bolivia, containing the natural stimulant used for centuries until some 20th century mooks started playing tyrant.

I'd love a taste of this stuff...never cared for refined cocaine, but I'd love to try some coca...if only our nanny allowed it, or I at least could find a black market connection.

Where is my incisive (none / 0) (#23)
by lilburro on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:30:51 AM EST

Cooper Union speech analysis? You really raised my expectations about this speech BTD.

I'm pretty busy right now (none / 0) (#24)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:32:29 AM EST

Maybe this weekend?


: Try this until BTD comes through. (none / 0) (#40)
by scribe on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:58:14 PM EST

Obama:

"Wall Streeters, listen to me because this could be pointed at you if you don't pony up to my re-election.

America, we need Wall Street because wtithout it, Main Street will shrivel and die. My plan is that Nobody gets hurt. By the way, you're Nobody.

Applause.

a few years ago in Colombia (none / 0) (#25)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:37:57 AM EST

I had soroche, a pumonary inflammation/altitude sickness/diesel smoke issue. I was sick as a dog, and not a kdog, let me tell you. I was given coca tea. Cleared up the wheezing and achein the pumlones, and gave me a nice boost of energy, akin to taking a lot of liquid b12. Better feeling than from a cup of coffee, even though the flavor of coffee I prefer.

Last time in Colombia the coca tea wasn't available. Used to buy the teabags at the pharmacy. Now? not so much.

I wonder if the US State Dept... (none / 0) (#26)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 10:47:26 AM EST

has something to do with that jeff...there are alotta strings attached to that pile o' cash we give to Colombia to fight this "scourge"...lol.


: More likely the DEA (none / 0) (#27)
by jeffinalabama on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 11:12:00 AM EST

Kdog, and Defense...both are major operators there, and lots of $$$ flowing to the Colombian Government. Drug eradication is still sending major dollars to Colombia.

Palin is in Knoxville-town in frenzy (none / 0) (#28)
by Teresa on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 11:46:40 AM EST

Yuck. Testifying against that kid who guessed her email on Yahoo.

Legal people, is this kid going to go to prison for what he did? The FBI testified against him yesterday. If my mom was on the jury, it would hang for sure. She thinks that kid is adorable.

The articles say he could get a sentence as high as 50 years??

Good to see ya T... (none / 0) (#34)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:04:29 PM EST

Hope you're feeling ok!

My non-legal take...in American justice, anything is possible when it comes to draconian sentences. Little common sense or decency to be found.

I have a hard time believing its even a crime myself...of course it ain't cool or righteous to hack into an email account, but if your password is that easy to figure out, isn't that a "fool me once, shame on me"?

Hopefully some people like your moms are on the jury, far as I can tell this kid is due a mulligan.


Hey kdog (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by Teresa on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:21:54 PM EST

Nice to see you too. I hope he gets a mulligan. He should for her not being more careful. An Alaskan official of some kind testified that he told her to quit using Yahoo. I'd be mad if someone did that to me but I wouldn't want to see a kid go to prison for it.

I worry about the East TN jury, you know? The defense attorney wanted a questionnaire for the jurors to see their feelings toward Palin but the judge said no.


: True dat... (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:29:16 PM EST

A jury full of Palin fans is not good for the kid...wonder why a judge would shoot that down, seems reasonable to me, to insure the kid gets a fair shake.
Like if I was on a jury where someone was accused of hacking Keith Richards email...who am I kidding, I'd still vote to acquit:)

South Park Update... (none / 0) (#37)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:37:34 PM EST

now you can't say Muhammed on Comedy Central.

Shame on Viacom...if only we could get the suits as afraid of censorship as they are of the muslim whackjobs.

Suits (none / 0) (#39)
by jondee on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 02:57:09 PM EST

I remember a couple of years back when Jon Stewart was pressurred (Im assuming) by parties unknown into issuing a on-air apology for a rant he had done a couple of weeks before questioning the use of the bomb at the end of WWII.

Certain sacred cows you still mess with at your own risk, particularly when you're relying on corporate sponsorship.


A good episode topic (none / 0) (#41)
by jondee on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 03:14:25 PM EST

might be why all relgions originating in that part of the world assume it would be a horrible thing to think that God might have a sense of humor.


Paul Mooney... (none / 0) (#43)
by kdog on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 03:31:49 PM EST

would have to play the Notorious G.O.D...that could be hysterical.

If he/she does exist...all evidence points to the higher power being a real practical joker...I mean just look around man:)


: Her-His (none / 0) (#44)
by jondee on Fri Apr 23, 2010 at 09:43:44 PM EST

best attribute, in my holy opinion..
I like that "Notorious G.O.D"..:)