I think I understood her to say that it's the judge who has to directly order the laptop to be examined and that he is expected to do so before meeting with Joran for his interview/interrogation at the end of this week (at the jail, apparently, for Joran's safety).

IOW, it sounds like there's no warrant procedure for law enforcement to search things per se, but that the "investigating judge" orders searches and results are reported to him, not the prosecutors.

I could have that all wrong, or Casarez could, but she speaks at least some Spanish and does have a law degree, so the error, if any, is probably mine.

She also said that while defendants or accused are not explicitly legally compelled to cooperate and talk to the judge, the judges can and do hold that against them in making their determination on cases.

One missing girl and one dead girl and no known pattern.

Supposedly Joran claimed a confrontation with Stephany began with a message on his computer from someone about killing him, mongoloid, due to the Holloway case. It is unbelievable if the computer has not been examined to determine if that information is accurate and who sent the message. Have there been any reports about who sent the alleged message?

Did Joran have any psychological testing previous to the death of Stephany?  How unfortunate that process wasn't or couldn't be accomplished when Joran began telling the various stories about the Holloway case.

At least Joran's family members have learned that speaking with the media only feeds the frenzy. Of course, they do need to find a way to deal with inappropriate reporting, etc.

Joran has befriended his co-prisoner the Colombian murderer. They are playing poker together.

In the beginning Joran had his meals with the prison guards out of fear of poisoning. (Doesn't say whether his or theirs.)

Also, remember that Mr. Van Der Sloot eventually remarked that Joran was a boy changed which appeared he thought the situation brought about a difference in Joran. Had Mr. Van Der Sloot seen or known of violence or some need of disposal rather than a body he would been less likely to view the situation as the reason for the change and would have unlikely made that comment?

Whether or not Mr. VDS was involved in a disposal I don't know but there are many reasons to also believe he would have preferred a body.  

If Natalee died there is nothing to show initial intent or preparation to hide a body in such a short period of time. In a case of panic three boys or a boy or ?? manage to successfully hide a body, return home, take a test the following morning, etc. One boy, Joran didn't have a car which limited his ability to an extent.

So far no real proof that Natalee is dead although most appear to consider that is the most likely theory.

The money theory involving Stephany's death just doesn't make sense. To kill someone for money in your hotel room knowing you won't get far sounds like desperation to explain or an attempt to place an unjust charge for harsher punishment, which didn't happen. So, either no motive or these two had something kinky going on which got out of hand. Just curious but if he was choking her and she was willing and the situation got out of hand how much time is that?  Maybe rage such as someone actually sent a message about the Holloway case and Joran had a meltdown. So many have hassled him about that case without the rage so ? maybe just the fact she tried to leave or hit him in the head led to blows but to strangle her with his shirt on top of all of that? And then no previous history of violence with women that I have heard.  

Mr. Van Der Sloot would have been better off explaining an accident and dead body rather than what followed as a result of the disappearance, not to mention subjecting himself to a crime. Also, Mr. VDS would probably have not suggested the boys try to say they dropped Natalee at the hotel, which they said initially.

Joran's failure to recognize he was better off with a body could have been panic, not suppose to be away from home, etc., if Natalee is dead and without obvious violence that couldn't have been attributed to an accident or self protection. Possibly if all three boys had dna in her that would be a problem but no history of violence or rape reported about any of the boys involved?

So much mystery but possibly, if Natalee's disappearance was an accident rather than murder, Joran decided he would never be considered a guy who could make it doing good again and decided to be a notorious poker playing story telling hustler ending in a meltdown murder rage?

How do you figure?  

If Natalee's brother is correct then possibly the Holloway case did eventually lead to Joran's meltdown. Such an injustice to Joran as well as Natalee if there was some way to encourage Joran's confession to panic and disposal of a body due to an accident. Keep in mind that I am unaware of the punishment but? the punishment that Joran has absorbed since Natalee's disappearance has been enormous. Possibly Joran refused to admit to the disposal of the body or possibly the implication if someone helped, such as a friend.

Yes, it is possible that Natalee is alive. One thought is she could have had seizures or distress due to drinking and or drugs and someone was called, possibly the drug dealer for instance, who put her on a boat and Joran doesn't even know if she lived. Not so much as a flip flop turned up to prove she is dead.

I doubt that Joran's father helped dispose of a body and thought up the dumb story that they dropped her off in front of her hotel but who knows?  If Joran's father had no part in a disposal then he took such an unfair beating and should have looked for ways to sue the media?

Without a body, so many stories, and the recent murder, Natalee's disappearance continues to be no more than speculation, but considering the recent, with a possibility for a more dangerous twist.

The fact that Joran's brother believes the seizure and ocean version appears to mean he does not think Joran murdered Natalee? Or, I am confused about what he meant thinking the Holloways did think that Joran murdered Natalee?

Yes, I agree, why doesn't Aruba go back to investigating others who are not locked in jail in Peru? Maybe they are and we are not informed. By placing Joran on the beach with Natalee without the Kalpoe brothers why would they want to involved themselves further unless Joran told them something that they can now repeat?

How difficult is it to dispose of a body in the ocean alone without a boat? Joran didn't have a boat? The best I could tell the there wasn't much time frame. If someone else was involved what would have been their interest unless they provided the drugs and would have been implicated in that respect or something like sex trade? My theory is that if someone helped dispose of a body then most likely there was self interest involved but? stranger things have happened.

Leaving Natalee on the beach would prevent questions about what happened to her, accident or not, if her body was disposed because with that story there is nothing to indicate that she was dead. Somehow a short term goal such as that didn't work long term.

In film the VDS home was also very clean so it could be they keep the car real tidy too. Take a look back at the inside paint job to recognize they weren't cleaning or painting half way. I think the clean thing might be a german or dutch trait. No way to rule out anything at this point about the car. Joran could have used the car? Also, if there is a death scent involved I am unsure how difficult that would be to remove or how the car was examined, dogs, etc.

Possibly I missed some earlier reports but I don't remember anyone testifying that Joran killed animals or of anything to indicate a facination with death. Considering the many girls and friends the lack of unusual stories about Joran adds to the confusion. The lack of an obvious background of problems made Natalee's disappearance appear unintentional regarding death.

Do the VDS continue living on the property? Maybe the property can be examined now? People bury pets on their property but would someone with a fasination of killing animals take the time to bury them? I don't know,

There is a picture of the VDS property taken from the air shown online somewhere which was taken during the Natalee investigation period, I think?, and there is a pool.

One point, I remember reading that Mrs. VDS said she didn't know the Kalpe brothers well which indicated Joran might have ventured outside of his usual school friends. By venturing out he might have picked up new habits, such as ????? which led to disaster.

Asking for a search warrant sounds typical somehow, especially for a lawyer?

If Mr. VDS was involved or wanting Natalee then what would have been the plan to keep her from talking? Did they plan to kill her? sell her? or think she wouldn't remember?

One BIG point is that Mr. VDS wasn't in Peru and there was a dead woman in Joran's hotel room.

PS. One thought that stays in my mind is a letter that one of the Kalpoe brothers wrote to someone which was posted online at one point. In the letter he is describing the activity the night that Natalee disappeared. If you read the letter and then read between the lines there is a need to question why does he say they didn't turn off anywhere else or Natalee wanted to go see the sharks and so on. He also said that Natalee fell and Joran tried to help her, regardless the claim was made outside the hotel where they didn't really drop her off but?  a lot of detail to make up about falling and Joran trying to be helpful. There was so much to read at that time but for someone to go back over the letter might be important.

On one site discussing the Holloway case someone put a link for something to read. Although I am always reluctant to click on a link, I clicked to read and there was what appeared something like a lot of newpaper print written in a foreign language. I only read and write english so no idea about the content. After that, much happened to my computer including a little star * which would pop up on the right hand side of whatever I wrote into search and slowly backspace out the wording over and over again. Also, other notices and then started the warnings to re install my computer protection and so on.  My computer protection had somehow been wiped out. What took place did not appear like a virus.