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    Just when you thought... (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 12:48:23 PM EST
    investigative journalism in the service of the public was dead, here's the Village Voice absoultely killing it with their 4 part series on all kinds of nasty going down in the NYPD.  It's got it all...quotas, under-reporting crimes and stat fudging, and even a Kafka-esque involuntary commision to the psych ward of one of their own who tried to blow the whistle.

    Check it out...and Thank You Village Voice for exposing all this nasty...keep up the excellent journalism...NYC needs ya.

    Geez (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:37:39 PM EST
    Surprise surprise, not...

    Great article kdog, Nice to see it all exposed in black and white. I am sure that the tapes will make it into a movie or a teevee series like the wire..  Nice tidbit:

    The pressure is the worst at the end of the month and at the end of every quarter, because that's when the precinct has to file activity reports on each officer with the borough command and police headquarters. (Put another way: If you want to avoid getting a ticket, stay away from police officers during the last few days of the month, when the pressure for numbers is the highest.)....

    But then again when the pressure is on to make more arrests it may not be so good either. Politics, no doubt, have everything to do with the fact that we are #1 prison nation in the world.

    Curiously, after questions were raised earlier this year about the 81st Precinct statistics, crime there jumped by 13 percent.

    That increase has remained steady, fueled chiefly by a huge 76 percent jump in felony assaults. That jump in assaults is far ahead of the citywide increase of 4.6 percent.

    In the 81st Precinct, at least, it appears that assaults are no longer being downgraded since Schoolcraft blew the whistle.



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    It was a real eye-opener... (none / 0) (#3)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:46:58 PM EST
    even for a guy like my who considers the NYPD one of the NY crime families.

    What the NYPD is doing is the exact opposite of sound community policework...surprise surprise, as you said.

    Thank goodness that poor cop (did I just say that?:) who got comitted against his will had the sense to record everything...otherwise it would just be a case of a disgruntled cop gone off the deep end.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:57:38 PM EST
    Well once he finally realizes using "official" channels will only get him deeper in a hole with no reform to show for his efforts, he will move it to hollywood, provide a real civil service that may actually embarrass politicians enough to clean up the corruption.

    But did anything change in Philadelphia because of The Wire, I do not think so..

    Problem is that the pols are reacting to the crowds who support prison nation. Lies, about reducing crime, or lies about increased  numbers of arrests, all to make the bedwetters feel safer, and to keep them voting tough on crime.

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    You got that right... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:12:30 PM EST
    Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

    Now the whole NYC drop in crime comes into question, the justification for all the civil liberty intrusions and "quality of life" b*ll-bustin' bullsh*t. Is rape really down if rapes are just called sexual misconduct misdemeanors? And the fraudulent downclassing of other major crimes? How deep does the rabbit hole go?

    And where are the major dailys on this?  That's right, they're corporate propaganda arms now...double thank goodness for the Voice.

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    Thanks for the link, my friend (none / 0) (#18)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:48:26 PM EST
    For tonight's reading list.  

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    Blaze up... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:58:11 PM EST
    beforehand my man, or else your blood will boil.

    Congrats on the Lakers!

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    Boiled blood (none / 0) (#32)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:06:18 PM EST
    My problem is the increasing frequency of it.

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    Lieberman strikes again! (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:56:43 PM EST
    Jobs bill fails

    Sens. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) and Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) voted with a united Republican caucus to block the approximately $120 billion package. The measure needed 60 votes to advance, but garnered only 56.

    When will Democrats just accept the fact that he's only interested in sticking it to them at every opportunity?

    The vote was 56-40 (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by BTAL on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:00:41 PM EST
    Reid, himself didn't even vote on cloture.

    Self inflicted Dem wound.

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    He didn't vote on purpose (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Joan in VA on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 06:23:03 PM EST
    since he knew 59 votes weren't there.

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    I want my life back... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by waldenpond on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:08:16 PM EST
    Tony Hayward gets his wish...

    Mr. 'Small' People Svanberg thinks Tony has 'foot in mouth' disease....

    "It is clear Tony has made remarks that have upset people," Svanberg tells Sky News. "This has now turned into a reputation matter, financial and political, and that is why you will now see more of me."

    So who has he picked as the suave replacement?

    Mr. 'Shoot the Dog' Dudley: "I think I would look at some of the process today as just making sure that through that sentiment we don't actually shoot the dog who is trying to bring home the bone and meet its obligations all across the Gulf, and we are going to be there a long time."

    For a guy... (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:15:21 PM EST
    with many a zero on his paycheck, he doesn't know much does he.

    Food for one of my corporate theories...the bigger your paycheck workin' for a mega-corp, the less you know about the business.

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    Hard to tell if they do (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:39:24 PM EST
    or not..

    Even though they're taught in business school that their only responsibility is to the shareholders, they still know on some level how bankrupt that is, so when it's time to make public statements about the corps goals and methods, most of these people become mealy mouthed, vague and overly image conscious; like their D.C errand boys and girls.

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    True, but Tony Hayward (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 04:43:01 PM EST
    knows, or at least at one time knew, the oil business from the ground and seabed up.  He holds a geology degree (first class) from Ashton in Birmingham and a Ph.D in the field from University of Edinburgh.  He started with BP in 1982 as a rig geologist and moved through BP proving, apparently, to be the best little geologist in corporate-dom. So much so, that when his predecessor, the hapless Lord Browne abruptly retired after revelations about his private life with Jeff Chevalier and his lies about it to the High Court, Tony was there to continue the good work.  Now, our new face of BP, Carl-Henric Svanberg, does come from Ericsson Communications, a field unrelated to oil, if you do not count the slickness common to their positions.

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    I still think the main (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by jondee on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:16:47 PM EST
    problem has to do with these narrow Randian, Freidmanian paradigms embraced by those who are constantly exerting increase-market-share pressure on the Haywards of the world..

    These people want nature (if they're considering nature at all) to conform to some for-profit clockwork - ticker tape machine standard of economic efficiency, and aint happenin'..And never will happen.    

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    Yes, BP's engineering (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 07:30:35 PM EST
    has taken a decided back seat to their accountants and managers.  That is why the blow happened in the first place.  That Tony let his professional background be subjugated to BP's higher call and lower culture makes him all the more culpable in my view.

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    The Early Daze, part 12 (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:50:07 PM EST
    The Freudian hi-jinx continue at the memoir blog.

    Have a great weekender, y'all.

    Right back atcha... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:59:50 PM EST
    on the weekend reading!

    For those who haven't tuned in to the hijinks yet, Dadler's got skills....you're missin' out.

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    I liked that (none / 0) (#45)
    by jondee on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:27:18 PM EST
    "fat, cardboard rain stick"; nice touch, D. :)

    Odd world, odd existence is right.

    Very nice piece. Now I cant wait to hear how the night time shenanigans unfold..

     

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    some times tweety finds a nut (none / 0) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 01:50:01 PM EST
    Tea Party Coalition Wants Sponsors to Pull Ads from 'Hardball'

    A coalition of Tea Party groups is calling on advertisers to pull their commercials from "Hardball" over host Chris Matthews' new documentary "The Rise of the New Right." The doc, which debuted last night at 7pmET and came in second in its timeslot (behind FNC) as well as being MSNBC's second-most watched show of the night (behind Countdown), is being called a "left-wing propaganda hit piece" by the Tea Party groups, reports The Daily Caller.
    All 100 of them.. (none / 0) (#72)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 12:00:51 PM EST
    as well as being MSNBC's second-most watched show of the night

    Sorry... couldn't resist....

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    I love it when the Brits (none / 0) (#7)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:01:36 PM EST
    Out sing the Vuvutoxin.  I bet you can't hear yourself think in that stadium though.

    Wow, Prince William is going bald (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:16:23 PM EST
    He'll be shiny headed or doing a comb-over in less than 5 years.  

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    Sign Of Masculinity (none / 0) (#13)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:23:25 PM EST
    Not to mention that men who start losing hair in their 30's, have a lower rate of prostate cancer.

    Going bald is pretty manly, odd that it is seen as a sign of impotence because it is due to high testosterone. Hair has been more of a sign of the feminine through out the ages.

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    No problem with baldness (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:29:16 PM EST
    My observation is more a reflection of how old he's (meaning me) getting.  Why, I remember watching his parents get married on TV.  

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:37:48 PM EST
    He is almost 30. Interesting prostate cancer study here..

    I was helping a couple friends select some drawings of another artist, to purchase. One of the drawings was a bald man, and my friend said, oh not that one, probably for the same reasons you have. Another friend, male and gay, chimed in to say that he found bald men the sexiest because only men go bald (in general), and therefore it is a sign of deep masculinity.

    I was sort of shocked because most men are freaked out about going bald, as if it is a loss of their masculinity. Anyway, thinking it through, it does appear that losing ones hair is very masculine...

    I passed that on to a few friends since, who were freaked out about going bald. It did give them small comfort, particularly the prostate cancer part.

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    I gotta tell... (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:52:57 PM EST
    one of my best friends about that prostate thing...he's ready to start bic-ing it and he's a year younger than me...he's all broken up about it.  He needs a brightside besides saving money on haircuts.

    My day will come too...I'm the spittin' image of my mom's dad and when he got old he had more hair growin' outta his ears than on his head...fun stuff!

    As for hair being feminine...I don't know man, the ladies dig hair except when it's on your back...and look at Samson:)

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    I was gonna say.... (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:59:20 PM EST
    My brothers were both nearly bald by the time they hit 30 and I don't think they would tell you it helped them with the ladies. Some guys look good bald and some don't, and unfortunately my bros looked better with hair.  More testosterone does not necessarily make you more attractive to the ladies - luckily they have other sterling qualities.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:04:52 PM EST
    Well my friend probably just has a thing for bald men.

    I thought it might be because it made them look like waking pen!ses.

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    LOL! (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Zorba on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:22:55 PM EST
    I've always thought that some bald men are sexy- Michael Jordan Vin Diesel, Patrick Stewart, Taye Diggs.  What can I say?  Bald or hair, it doesn't make much difference to me.

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    LOL (none / 0) (#33)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:06:56 PM EST
    Could be!!!

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    Fortunately (none / 0) (#61)
    by Upstart Crow on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 06:21:30 PM EST
    He doesn't need ladies.  Just women.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#22)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:58:34 PM EST
    Well the ladies dig rock stars, they classically faint ooh and ah, and there is no more feminine man than a rock star, from the hair to the makeup to the glitter.

    IOW women swoon over femininity... what can I say. Nothing is so clear cut..

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    I never got that (none / 0) (#27)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:03:17 PM EST
    long hair = femininity thing. I think conservatives made it up in the 60's. In plenty of cultures men had longer hair through most of history than they do now.

    If you flip it - do women associate short hair on men with more masculinity? Not in my experience.

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#73)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 12:03:26 PM EST
    everyone wore long hair to be different.

    In the 50s everyone wore short hair to be different.

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    Bottom line (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:08:45 PM EST
    Prince William is always going to be a chick magnet, with or without his hair.

    Hair is not the priority for women.

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    What a comforting message for his bride to be (none / 0) (#37)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:18:37 PM EST


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    Marrying into that family (none / 0) (#66)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 08:45:18 PM EST
    She better keep her eyes wide open.

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    "You wont make much money, (none / 0) (#47)
    by jondee on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:55:35 PM EST
    but you'll get more p*ssy than Frank Sinatra". According to Robbie Robertson, that's what Ronnie Hawkins, who gave him his first guitar playing job, told him.

    A short but effective motivational talk for a young man, if I ever heard one.

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    yes (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:59:31 PM EST
    the hair that disappears from your head will reappear in your ears.

    I have held on to my hair pretty well.  which is surprising.  most men in my family are smooth by the time they are my age.

    dont even have a bald spot.

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    Maybe there is hope for me yet... (none / 0) (#28)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:04:21 PM EST
    my old man had a full head of mostly black hair when he died.

    I try not to be vain but I really wanna keep my hair:)

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    I always heard it was inherited from the mother's (none / 0) (#31)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:06:07 PM EST
    line. Holds true in my family anyway - my bothers have my maternal grandfather's hair, unfortunately not my Dad's. He is 82 and has lots of hair.

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    Oh well... (none / 0) (#35)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:08:51 PM EST
    guess I'm proper f*cked.

    And my game is hurtin' enough as it is...it consists of letting the ladies pick me:)

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    doesnt always work (none / 0) (#42)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:22:59 PM EST
    it was my moms side that was bald.  my father had a full head when he died.

    I must have gotten the hair from him.  also he had "indian hair".  thick and straight and shiny.  when I had hair people were forever asking me is it was real.

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    Got tired of looking in the mirror, (none / 0) (#26)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:02:11 PM EST
    so I shaved my head last week. Now I'm freezing!

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    LOL... (none / 0) (#30)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:05:11 PM EST
    I used to do the summer buzz cut but not for a few years...scared it won't all grow back!

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    we were talking about the (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:19:51 PM EST
    "fake stuff" the other day?
    its still legal in Il.  dont know what happened but I just picked some up at the local head establishment.

    very handy for when the man is out of town.


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    Had somebody askin' me about it... (none / 0) (#40)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:22:34 PM EST
    last week...I told 'em Capt. Howdy says the stuff is legit:)

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    Im tellin ya (none / 0) (#43)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:23:38 PM EST
    it works.


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    Jjapanese city bans beards on (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:56:02 PM EST
    city employees.  Claims this will save energy as beard wearers run hot.  link

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    did I miss something (none / 0) (#59)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:56:52 PM EST
    but, what are you talking about?

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    Mine's reaching the point (none / 0) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 12:08:47 PM EST
    where I'm thinking of a short buzz type cut... I hate the "let what's left  grow to 24" and comb it around on your head" look.

    'Course at 70 plus my priorities aren't what they were at 30..... or 50 for that matter..

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    Did you hear that Harry is going to be (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:29:32 PM EST
    an Apache pilot?  It came on the news awhile back, out of the corner of my eye I swear to Jesus...I saw my husband's chest begin to stick out more.  So I scratched myself and said, "Gee, just what Apaches need....another drunken womanizer :)"

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    hmmm (none / 0) (#12)
    by CST on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 02:18:14 PM EST
    actually an england-algeria tie might be the best case scenario here.

    0-0 (none / 0) (#36)
    by CST on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:12:19 PM EST
    with only 5 minutes left.

    This is gooooood for team USA

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    So how does this game out for the USA? (none / 0) (#39)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:21:05 PM EST
    Root for Slovenia against England, and then all we would need is a draw against Algeria?  

    If we beat Algeria, are we in 100% for certain?

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    if we beat algeria (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by CST on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:26:58 PM EST
    we are in 100% because if England wins, Slovenia is out, if they tie, England is out, and if Slovenia wins England is out.

    If we tie, we can still get in if Slovenia wins, or if they tie but we have more goals.

    If we lose we are out.

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    Found this summary on SBNation (none / 0) (#48)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 04:14:20 PM EST
    Win and in.

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    Oops, that link won't work for long (none / 0) (#49)
    by magster on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 04:16:02 PM EST
    try this.

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    Wiki has a pretty good synopsis. (none / 0) (#56)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:37:32 PM EST
    If we win we're in.

    If we lose and England loses we're in.

    If we lose and England ties we might be in.

    If we lose and England wins we're out.

    So, root for the US to win. And if England plays first, root for Slovenia...

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    Actually, what I wrote above is wrong. (none / 0) (#57)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:40:43 PM EST
    Wiki has it right here.

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    Thank you Algeria! Rock el Casbah! (none / 0) (#63)
    by Ellie on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 07:05:31 PM EST
    With apologies to the late, great Joe Strummer.

    Sharing the widespread bafflement about disallowed USA goal; surely the US has a strong case for appealing/contesting result.

    • there was so much rough house in front of the net, and nothing so obvious/ egregious that not only a card, goal, or even GAME ridea on it ... but the Group outcome.
    • if FIFA's reconsidering a GD yellow on Portugal's Ronaldo, then they should look at this too.


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    Just my guess, (none / 0) (#65)
    by brodie on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 08:20:10 PM EST
    but I suspect it's highly unlikely FIFA will make a decision which results in overturning the final point results of a match.  Unless they want to schedule a special mini-match, in this instance, to finish out the remaining 15 minutes with the US up a goal, today's result will likely stand.  

    It's much easier for them to look fair and justice-minded by reviewing and overturning rulings on yellow cards and the like, since that's a matter affecting a single player.

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    this is my favorite (none / 0) (#46)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 03:36:33 PM EST
    game trailer from E3 so far.

    other than ours of course.

    XCOM

    I love the 50s look

    Face Blind? (none / 0) (#50)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 04:32:00 PM EST
    Well now you can test yourself for Prosopagnosia.

    I did not do so well on the test...

    I did well on the test... (none / 0) (#52)
    by vml68 on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 04:57:10 PM EST
    only got 1 wrong. In the real world I am absolutely terrible, I have a really hard time remembering people.

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    lol (none / 0) (#54)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 05:07:19 PM EST
    I got one right, and am terrible in real life. If anyone I know changes their hair, shaves a beard, dramatically new glasses, hat, I do not recognize them. And for those I just meet, forget it,  I will never recognize them.

    A good friend on the other hand is always pointing out celebrities, I cannot attest to her ability because I can never verify, just trust.

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    17 of 18 (none / 0) (#60)
    by waldenpond on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 06:05:50 PM EST
    Didn't know who Margaret Thatcher was.  Not as great with actors as others.

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    9 of 19 (none / 0) (#67)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 09:02:35 PM EST
    If I had stuck with my first guess on a few of them I would have done better.

    I thought George Clooney was Alan Grayson. I'm an idiot.

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    Weird (none / 0) (#68)
    by sj on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 09:08:22 PM EST
    I didn't realize how much I relied on other clues to identify people.  And I didn't finish the test because it freaked me out :)

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    I had the same feeling (none / 0) (#69)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 09:39:34 PM EST
    After I got a few of them wrong that I should have known I freaked a little and felt like quitting. Interesting exercise.

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    Very poorly designed test, imo (none / 0) (#71)
    by jondee on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 01:25:19 AM EST
    no one - without some other condition with a long name - normally sees faces in that sort of visual context to begin with, so what is this test supposed to prove?

    Also, they might want to think about a clinical  term for people who recognize too many celebrities of questionable relevance, but that's another study for another day, I suppose.

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    BP Gross Negligence (none / 0) (#70)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 18, 2010 at 10:57:46 PM EST
    Partner in damaged oil well slams BP for 'reckless' actions -- and inaction

    It was the first time since the blowout in the Gulf of Mexico that Anadarko Petroleum had given its view of the accident, and its chief executive, Jim Hackett, did not mince words. In a statement, Hackett said he was "shocked" by information that has emerged from investigations of the accident. He said it "indicates BP operated unsafely and failed to monitor and react to several critical warning signs during the drilling of the Macondo well."....

    ....Hackett's comments have huge financial implications. As a 25 percent partner in the well, Anadarko would ordinarily be responsible for a quarter of all cleanup and damage costs. But, Hackett said, "BP's behavior and actions likely represent gross negligence or willful misconduct and thus affect the obligations of the parties under the operating agreement."

    WaPo

    They are just getting started (none / 0) (#75)
    by ruffian on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 04:28:04 PM EST
    turning on each other. These cases are going to go on for years and get very interesting.

    BP's behavior and actions likely represent gross negligence or willful misconduct and thus affect the obligations of the parties under the operating agreement."

    But of course....

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    Well (none / 0) (#76)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 19, 2010 at 04:38:28 PM EST
    I think that the memos that came out showing that BP, in order to save $10mil, made some really bad decisions a week or two before the disaster, have let Anadarko Petroleum off the hook due to bad faith or something like that on the part of BP.

    Not that Anadarko Petroleum would have assumed their 25% responsibility had BP had all their ducks in a row. IOW they would have sued in any case.

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