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    Dr. Ira Leifer, a member of (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:04:59 PM EST
    the Flow Rate Technical Group (Marine Science Institute, UC, Santa Barbara) claimed that "it is apparent that BP is playing games with us, presumably under advice of their legal team.  It has been six weeks that it has been dumping into the gulf and no measurements."  BP previously rejected the idea of using subseas equipment to measure its response to the flow rate, now says it is up to the flow-rate group. The Interior Department previously said that 5000 barrels are gushing per day, but now is saying 12,000 to 19,000 barrels a day. The Environmental Defense Fund is concerned that BP is not giving the data needed, and research is dependent on the grainy video footage from the ocean floor. BP is now capturing 15,000 barrels a day, since the cap but the flow rate is exceeding the capacity of the drill ship they have provided. New videos suggest that 4 to 5 times the amount is gushing from that taken out, or 50,000 to 100,000 barrels per day (2 to 4 million gallons, or one Exxon Valdez spill every 2.5 to 5 days and we are on Day 50 and counting).

    Thanks for the great summary Dan. (none / 0) (#29)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 10:54:18 PM EST
    Here's a link to the story from McClatchy, June 07/10: BP well may be spewing 100,000 barrels a day, scientist says.

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    It's time to teake a break. (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:08:45 PM EST
    the people of Luouisiana, alabama and mississipi have been blamed by commenters on this site for the BP/halliburton.deepwater oil leak.

    I'm done. I'm going to drive my eldery ill father to the gulf coast. not where we usually went, but to a beach in florida. I only hope I can find a beach wheelchair to carry him to the gulf.

    I'd like to do more, but at his age I can't.

    I'd like to also kick the rear ends of people on this site who blame the residents of Alabama, Mississipi, Louisiana, and Florida for this oil spill.

    Jim, Kdog, keep them straight while I'm on vacation.

    As Forrest Gump's mom said in the movie, "Vacation is when you go away and you never come back."

    I'm not to Mama Gump's attitude yet. But I know I am disgusted by the comments. I need a break.


    Don't know who you're (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:14:48 PM EST
    referring to, but don't count me among those blaming residents.

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    It's not (none / 0) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:24:26 PM EST
    you but there are a number on the other thread.

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    If I recall correctly, (none / 0) (#24)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 08:18:11 PM EST
    comments are more subtle than that; comments talk about issue that voters in the affected states keep putting in office candidates who do not run on pro-environment, pro-enforce the regulation policies.  But, to the extent we are dealing with Fed policy, we are not dealing with the voters of just a few states.

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    Hope not me neither (none / 0) (#25)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 08:24:08 PM EST
    I had strong words for the politicians, but I know the residents are just trying to make a living in the environment created by the pols. Nobody asked for this.

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    Have a good trip, Jeff and Dad. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:29:35 PM EST
    I, too, do not understand the "blame the residents", or worse, they deserve it.  Besides, this is a catastrophe with global ramifications.

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    I forgot to say Squeaky, to go with Jim and (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:32:32 PM EST
    kdog.

    Light 'em up, bring the pain.

    out.

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    Have Great Trip (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:58:25 PM EST
    We will await your reports...  sounds like a nice way to spend time with your dad and get in some r&r... sun sea...  nice.

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    I'll try but most of the ones doing it (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 11:28:05 PM EST
    have no shame.

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    Hillary In Equador (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 11:54:36 PM EST
    Hillary Clinton met with leftist President Rafael Correa in Equador. Seemed to go well, or at least the chill of BushCo is gone. Interestingly enough she repeated her call for tax reform in a speech given at the museum El Centro Cultural Metropolitano.

    After her meeting with Mr. Correa, Mrs. Clinton delivered a speech at a museum in which she called for more economic equality across Latin America. Among a list of remedies, she called for tax reform to curb rampant evasion and to reduce the burden of taxes on the poor.

    "It is also a simple fact that the wealthy do not pay their fair share," Mrs. Clinton said. "We can't mince words about this. Levels of tax evasion are unacceptably high - as much or more than 50 percent in some of this region's economies when it comes to personal income tax."

    "Acknowledging this is not class warfare; it is not even us-versus-them rhetoric," she said. "It is a matter of recognizing that this cannot be a zero-sum game. We cannot take a winner-takes-all approach to our economic future."

    Mrs. Clinton also cited the growth of the black-market economy, which further reduces tax receipts of overburdened governments. She praised President Correa for working to increase social inclusion in Ecuador, which still suffers from wide disparities of wealth in urban and rural areas.

    NYT

    Speech here  Worth a read.

    Van der Sloot (none / 0) (#1)
    by jbindc on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 05:56:52 PM EST
    Is now saying he was high whem he killed Flores, according to CNN

    Hmmmm. (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:06:55 PM EST
    Van der Sloot told investigators he was intoxicated on marijuana when all this happened, the source said.



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    I thought reefer made one less violent (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:29:35 PM EST
    Kdog, a little help here?

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    He's at the Mets/Padres game! (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:31:14 PM EST
    I want to come back as kdog (none / 0) (#13)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:33:48 PM EST
    in my next life.

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    He should have caught (none / 0) (#27)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 09:38:32 PM EST
    the Chinatown bus to the Strasburg show.

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    Pelfrey wasn't too shabby... (none / 0) (#44)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 10:17:21 AM EST
    at all last night, 9 innings of one run ball in the no-decision.  Ike's walk-off was sweet!

    But the phenom in DC exceded the hype...damn!  Has anyone ever thrown such a hard hook before?  I was buggin' watching the highlights this morning.

    As to your reefer questions...it chills me out and keeps me peacefully sane, but effects everybody differently.  I do find it has mood-enhancing qualities...if you're happy it makes you happier, sad and it can make you more blue.  If you're in a bashing skulls mood I suppose it could enhance that too...the Afghan resistance during the Soviet Occupation used to hash it up before battle to get in "the zone".

    One thing I'm confident of...it's not gonna turn a peace-loving person violent...no chance.  And for Sloot to play the "stoned" card is beyond lame...I hate when people do that, take responsibility for yourself, don't blame "substance x".

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    Strausberg (none / 0) (#45)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 10:20:10 AM EST
    was pretty amazing last night. I flipped on the Orioles game and the announcers were talking about the Nats game - saying they gave over 130 press credentials out - for the Nats!  It was nice to see the stadium filled too.

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    How do you like the new ballpark? (none / 0) (#46)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 10:51:07 AM EST
    BTW, congrats.  

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    Gracious of ya... (none / 0) (#47)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 10:56:44 AM EST
    the lefty you guys had on the hill was most impressive as well...love a good pitchers duel.

    Ballpark is nice...with real edible food, even if you do need a co-signer to buy some.  Mets Hall of Fame in the Robinson rotunda was neat, they need to get Doc and Straw in there though.

    But I still can't get past the stupid name.  They name a little footbridge after Bill Shea...I took it as an insult to his memory.  If I break my "under the radar livin'" plan and get in this game, my first order of civil disobedient business is defacing the Citi-Field sign...what an eye-sore.

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    Really wish Petco had (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 11:03:25 AM EST
    "real edible food."  Price is horrific and the only thing with any taste is the pulled pork sandwich--not all that healthy!

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    Thought you guys were famous for... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 11:10:00 AM EST
    the fish tacos...or is that one of the other CA clubs?

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    It certainly should (none / 0) (#26)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 08:50:12 PM EST
    and usually does.  I've never seen a rundown of crimes committed while high on pot, but I doubt there are many violent crimes.

    But what I'm hearing is that intoxication of any kind, alcohol or any drug, is actually considered a major mitigating circumstance for crime in Peru.  He will get a lesser sentence if they believe him on that.

    Don't know whether that's the same as in Aruba so he already knew that from his previous encounters with the legal system and his father's coaching, or whether he's actually got a good attorney there now advising him.  My guess would be the former.

    A confession that's born out by the evidence and participating in a reenactment, plus being high, plus getting two days off your sentence for every one you spend behind bars up to the time of sentencing, plus parole after serving one third of your sentence, could mean he would only serve a few years.

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    Interesting, thanks (none / 0) (#28)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 10:23:39 PM EST
    I'm sure he does know how to play all the angles, having learned from the Aruba experience.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#5)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:08:52 PM EST
    He fell asleep and then remembered that he was supposed to be killing someone...  Reefer Madness.... lol

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    He did go out for munchies. (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:11:15 PM EST
    Munchies? (none / 0) (#10)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:16:00 PM EST
    Bread and coffee in the AM are considered breakfast, not  "munchies"... but you knew that.

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    Plus she did the driving. (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:12:27 PM EST
    Does seem like his judgment was somewhat impaired.  

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    Her Car (none / 0) (#9)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:13:26 PM EST
    But you knew that.

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    Impaired judgment only counts (none / 0) (#17)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 07:12:04 PM EST
    when you're behind the wheel of a car in the U.S. and judgment impaired due to alcohol, it seems.

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    Reuters caught providing cover for Hamas (none / 0) (#2)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:00:01 PM EST
    Link

    Nothing like a little cropping to hide what you don't want the world to see.

    This is the second go around for Reuters. Last time they fired some folks. Wonder what they will do now.

    Of course the damage is done. Which was the intent.

    Faux News... Hilarious (none / 0) (#4)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:07:37 PM EST
    Yes, like (none / 0) (#14)
    by Zorba on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:48:41 PM EST
    we can believe absolutely everything that the Israelis are spouting, LOL!

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    Im sure the truth is EXACTLY (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 06:13:22 PM EST
    the way that Fox story is reporting it.

    No need whatsoever for any further "impartial" inquiries..

    Like that Carl Cameron, Israeli spy network report Fox put out right after 9/11.

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    Uh, the link takes you photos (none / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 11:27:14 PM EST
    You could be right (none / 0) (#23)
    by Yman on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 08:09:46 PM EST
    After all, Fox News knows a lot about doctoring photos.

    OTOH, unlike the cropping of the edges of Reuter's photograph, Fox's intent with their photoshopping is self-evident.

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    You guys are funny (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 11:24:37 PM EST
    Your heroes are caught red handed and you act like it is FNC's doing the crime.

    You have zero credibility.

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    Caught? (none / 0) (#33)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 08, 2010 at 11:31:16 PM EST
    The world is not looking at the minor cropping that reuters did, or at the Faux news that pointed it out. The world is horrified that Israel used excessive force and killed 9 people on a Turkish relief ship heading to Gaza. Of course, for you the cropping is waaaaaaaay more important than a few murders.

    Spin your BS Faux news story all you want, no one is paying attention.

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    Really? Where's the evidence ... (none / 0) (#36)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 07:55:48 AM EST
    ... that your theory is true (the cropping was intentional) or that Reuters explanation (the cropping was an incidental, normal part of publishing a photo) is false?

    Oh wait, .... that's right.

    You don't believe in facts or evidence.

    Kinda like the time you accused the people on the convoy of smuggling weapons.

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    Not to help Jim out (none / 0) (#38)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:18:54 AM EST
    But Reuters admits they cropped the photos "inadvertently"

    At the end of the comments, Reuters says:

    A number of readers contacted us about this. At the top and bottom you can see our initial cropped versions on the left, and the full frame versions on the right.

    The images in question were made available in Istanbul, and following normal editorial practice were prepared for dissemination which included cropping at the edges. When we realized that a dagger was inadvertently cropped from the images, Reuters immediately moved the original set, as well.

    We also used one of the uncropped photos on our reuters.com home page, and linked to a slideshow which used both full-frame knife shots: GBU Editor



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    I think the more important point (none / 0) (#39)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:19:57 AM EST
    Is that Israeli commando wearing a thong?

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    It's okay ... you didn't help him (none / 0) (#40)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:43:53 AM EST
    Jimmy is arguing that that Reuters intentionally cropped the photo (to cut out knife) as part of some politically motivated plan to "provide cover for Hamas".  Reuters says the cropping of the knife was inadvertent and "following normal editorial practice were prepared for dissemination which included cropping at the edges".

    Personally, I don't know why the photo was cropped the way it was, but my point was that Reuters explanation is certainly plausible, and Jimmy has no evidence to support his theory that the cropping was intentional -  unlike the Fox News situation where the reason for their actual doctoring of the photos was self-evident.

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    Well (none / 0) (#41)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:51:01 AM EST
    It does give some creedence to the Israeli argument, I think - right?

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    Oh, sure ... (none / 0) (#43)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 09:02:02 AM EST
    ... and the photo appears to corroborate the Israeli claims that they were defending themselves.  Personally (leaving aside the issue of the legality of the blockade) I think that, if the Israeli soldiers were attacked by the protesters, they had every right to defend themselves.  Not a popular opinion here at TL, but ...

    ... oh, well.

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    I think the question is (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:49:01 PM EST
    who had MORE right to defend themselves under those particular circumstances -- which are still being unraveled and examined -- not whether any person involved had "no right" to defend themselves.

    Everyone knows how quickly these type of things can spin out of control: all it takes is one or two people on either side flipping and going Rambo and the situation can very quickly degenerate into chaos.  

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    I didn't notice the knife (none / 0) (#51)
    by nycstray on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 11:20:03 AM EST
    in the uncropped photo right away. That (photo) could have easily passed across someone's computer and they just did a common crop to zero in more on the central figure in the image. Many times when you are cropping photos, you are looking at different things, not necessarily what the photographer was.

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    Oh sure (none / 0) (#55)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:43:47 PM EST
    photo editors don't look at what they are editing.

    wow and lol

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    He didn't know the picture was loaded (none / 0) (#56)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:45:26 PM EST
    and she's so sorry my friend....

    My apologies to Frankie and Johnny...

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    Im just not quit sure (none / 0) (#58)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:52:36 PM EST
    what qualifies you to be a judge of other's "credibility" around here..

    A mail order diploma from talk radio school?

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    I forgot.. (none / 0) (#59)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:54:17 PM EST
    Heh and lol..

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    Actually common sense (none / 0) (#61)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 01:50:28 PM EST
    tell us us that photo editors look closely at pictures they edit.

    It is their job.

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    Because everyone knows (none / 0) (#63)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 01:57:48 PM EST
    Uzis, flak jackets and Apache helicopters are no match for a knife and a few pipes.

    Just as those Israeli jets were no match for the U.S.S Liberty.

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    The soldier is stretched out (none / 0) (#64)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 03:27:53 PM EST
    on his back with neck exposed...

    Reminds me of Daniel Peral... You know, the journalist who had his head sawed off by the radical Muslims........

    Link

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    Daniel Pearl? (none / 0) (#65)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 03:36:49 PM EST
    Anyone stretched out like that reminds me of him -- and any number of collateral casualties who were the victims of that chickenhawk jihad in Iraq..

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    That would be a ridiculous argument (none / 0) (#66)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 04:35:36 PM EST
    ... photo editors don't look at what they are editing.

    Too bad you're the only one making it.

    "Lol"

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    "My heroes"??? (none / 0) (#42)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:54:35 AM EST
    Sorry, Jimmy ... they're not my "heroes" - personally, I disagree with what the protesters did.  I just think it's funny that you:  1) falsely accuse them of smuggling weapons, 2)accuse Reuters of intentionally cropping photos to "provide cover for Hamas", and 3) claim that they're my "heroes".  Hey!  A trifecta of falsehoods, all in one thread!

    Guess that's the problem with most of your arguments, jimakappj.  You're always making those fact-free assumptions.

    You do know the old adage about "assumptions", right?

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    Ymanny, in case you missed it (none / 0) (#54)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:41:30 PM EST
    Reuters is a serial offender when it comes to fake photos causing harm to Israel.

    And when it comes to the Left and Palestine, I have been trained by the Left to know that they are "your heroes."

    You just can't help yourselves.

    BTW - Given that rockets are still falling on Israel, suicide bombers still killing people and attacks are still being launched using various weapons.....

    Why would not a reasonable person expect Hamas to attempt to smuggle weapons into Palestine?

    BTW - In case you missed it, people who call me "Jimmy" are responded to in a similar disregardful fashion.

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    Just call him Jjim: (none / 0) (#60)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 01:06:22 PM EST
    Staunch defender of those who never blew a family to pieces that wasn't being used as a "human shield" by terrorists..

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    Jjondee that works for me (none / 0) (#62)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 01:51:37 PM EST
    'kay, Jimbob (none / 0) (#67)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 05:12:00 PM EST
    "Serial offender"? - When Reuters found out that Adnan Hajj, a Lebanese freelance photographer, was submitting intentionally doctored photos to them, they fired him and removed all of his photos, because that's what professional journalists do.  There is zero evidence they participated in or even knew about what he was doing before it was brought to their attention.  Now what did Fox News do when they broadcast their own doctored photos of two journalists they didn't like?  Oh, yeah ... nothing.

    You've been "trained by the Left to know what to believe"?  Since when are Rush, Fox News and Little Green Footballs "the left"?

    Why would not a reasonable person expect Hamas to attempt to smuggle weapons into Palestine?

    Nice try, Jimmy.  You didn't say you expected Hamas to try to smuggle weapons into Palestine.  You claimed that the people in this convoy (as opposed to Hamas) were smuggling weapons.  Once again, another fact/evidence-free assumption brought to you by jimakappj who is once again, ...

    ... wrong.

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    Mr Credibility himself (none / 0) (#50)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 11:19:57 AM EST
    speaks.

    The guy who said the flotilla was carrying weapons to Hamas and that Thomas called for the forcible removal of Jews from Israel.

    Unimpeachable credibility all the way.

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    Well (none / 0) (#52)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 11:54:26 AM EST
    Considering that the whole world circulates around ppj and his theories, Reuters cropped out the knife to hide the fact that Hamas was delivering weapons to Gaza. The IDF commando in the picture, called ppj up when he saw the photo, ppj called Faux and there we have it.

    All to show that Hamas was smuggling weapons to Gaza: a pocket knife. That was worth at least a dozen deaths. Ppj is on his way to the Hague right now to argue that the pocket knife weilder was a war criminal. While he is there he will argue that waterboarding is not torture.

     ppj a man for all seasons...

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    Yes that moon (none / 0) (#53)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:09:53 PM EST
    of Saturn has seasons too.

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    Ghost of BushCo Enabled by Congress (none / 0) (#35)
    by squeaky on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:52:32 AM EST
    A Texas pipeline tycoon who died two months ago may become the first American billionaire allowed to pass his fortune to his children and grandchildren tax-free, The New York Times's David Kocieniewski reports....

    Had his life ended three months earlier, Mr. Duncan's riches -- Forbes magazine estimated his worth at $9 billion, ranking him as the 74th wealthiest in the world -- would have been subject to a federal tax of at least 45 percent. If he had lived past Jan. 1, 2011, the rate would be even higher -- 55 percent.

    Instead, because Congress allowed the tax to lapse for one year and gave all estates a free pass in 2010, Mr. Duncan's four children and four grandchildren stand to collect billions that in any other year would have gone to the Treasury.

    NYT

    CNN is full of LA coasties (none / 0) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 08:18:25 AM EST
    upset about the possibility they could lose their oil industry jobs because of Obama's moratorium on deep sea drilling, and I'm guessing the temporary suspension of shallow water drilling.  Not a care in the world though that MMR and the Republicans they put in charge of everything for eight years have deregulated everything to the point that nobody knows if the industry is safe in any respect at this time.  As usual, the Southerners are all choked up over what?  33 deep sea wells have been suspended.  There are over 4,000 operating productions rigs in the gulf, and those aren't doing anything other than pump oil and do the same things they have done every day since the day they were born.  I am tired of the B.S. conflaguration.  We don't even have the technology to safely drill deep sea.  But they don't care.  Only 33 "possible" wells have been suspended....a drop in the oil bucket that is the gulf oil industry, but I have to listen to this crap on T.V. all day I suppose.  And CNN should be ashamed of themselves feeding a frenzy that isn't even there.  And since those 33 rigs were never a sure thing.........how about if the South puts some of those wind farms off the coast.  They could employ people to do it even and to maintain them too.  And as far as how ugly a windfarm is conflated to be, it can't hold a candle to how fugly all those platforms are or the crap they toss in the water.