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Wikileaks: Biggest Leak Yet of Military Documents

Wikileaks has published a 200,000 pages of secret documents on the Afghan war.

The files, published online by The Guardian, the New York Times and Germany's Der Spiegel, include details of 144 incidents in which Coalition forces have killed civilians.

The Guardian says the leaks show that troops killed hundreds of civilians in previously unreported incidents.

The White House is livid.

US national security adviser James Jones says the publication of the documents puts the lives of soldiers and civilians at risk.

"The United States strongly condemns the disclosure of classified information by individuals and organisations which could put the lives of Americans and our partners at risk and threaten our national security," he said in a statement.

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The papers say, "a real-time history of the war reported from one important vantage point - that of the soldiers and officers actually doing the fighting and reconstruction.".

The NY Times has a "War Logs" page up with reactions to the disclosure.

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    Earth to James Jones... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by kdog on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 08:53:11 PM EST
    If anybody is putting American lives and national security at risk, it is you lot...not those who wish for the American people to get an idea of the "services" they pay for, the "services" you provide.  More like disservice chief.

    I'd say that it is the 144 incidents where (5.00 / 5) (#3)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 08:58:32 PM EST
    US forces have killed civilians that put the troops at risk, not the public knowing about them. The people on the ground in Afghanistan already know about it, and it feeds the insurgence and helps the Taliban. It was only a secret to the American public.

    Yes, the White House seems to be livid (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Cream City on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:42:44 PM EST
    about the wrong thing.

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    They seem mostly to be worried about (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:46:31 PM EST
    any conflicting information they might have given out in the last 18 months. I suspect a lot of cross checking of public statements is going on tonight.

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    Oh, I would suspect that the worry (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Cream City on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:48:25 PM EST
    is about November.

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    Oh yeah, there's that (none / 0) (#11)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:51:53 PM EST
    Regardless of political preferences I do like to see authorities with their panties in a wad over freedom of information.

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    After reading most of the stories on the NYT site (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:43:36 PM EST
    It seems like very loose classification standards were used on these reports. I think keeping information away from the American people was the goal, rather than keeping it away from the enemy.

    People want to understand what is going on. I for one am tired of being told I can't possibly understand the situation and what the troops are going through.

    "The United States strongly condemns"? (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Edger on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 11:17:24 PM EST
    A little news for Jim Jones. You're not The United States, Jim.

    The United States is who you want to keep from knowing what's happening in Afghanistan.

    Try to get that straight, Jim.

    Heh (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:05:39 AM EST
    I of course have mixed feelings about the leaking.  Jim Jones is the worst though.  He is nothing but old school.  He is against COIN, which is where we work hard to not kill civilians while dealing with the Taliban and Al Qaeda threat...and guess who was running Afghanistan when most of these civilian collateral deaths took place?  Yup.....Jim Jones.  Will any mainstream media pick up on that? And because he would really just rather bomb Afghanistan than deal with anything, he is going to be livid and presumptive that HE IS the United States :)  His ego knows no bounds.

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 12:10:30 PM EST
    he's hoping they'll name a town in Guyana after him, after he takes a few more thousand people into the sky with him.

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    Oh, behave! ;) (none / 0) (#27)
    by jbindc on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 01:56:01 PM EST
    Heh. (none / 0) (#28)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 04:04:39 PM EST
    I will if he will. ;-)

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    I fear never having leaks (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 04:47:34 PM EST
    a lot more than I fear leaking.  There are still many things that happened in the early couple of years in Iraq that are not spoken of.

    Someday there will be books written about horrors.  It was a bunch of cowboys thinking they were part of a Wild West show, it was crazy, and I could feel the crazy all around me until Abu Ghraib broke.

    I do have to say that under Obama things are much different.  Things were much different when Petraeus had to step in and save Bush's a$$ too though.  There was a new accountability by God because crazy is what was handing us our a$$e$.  Bush gets off scott free though right now.  That is hard for me at times.

    Things happened in the early years of Iraq though that will never be okay but are still not spoken of either....and I'm not sure why that is except that maybe it is because we still have not left yet....therefore we can't face fully as a nation what happened and what was done in our names.

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    I don't think things are any better under Obama (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 06:39:00 PM EST
    I think things are much worse under Obama, because the same things Bush did Obama does and more, and millions of people think that's better and back off on the pressure.

    He's a far better salesman than Bush, I'll give him that much.

    Bush, or any republican nutbar, would never have had a hope in hell of getting away with all things Obama's done since he was inaugurated while being able to convince people they are supporting any kind of progressive changes.

    Bush gets off scott free because Obama is an accessory after the fact. A getaway car driver on the same team as much if not more than Pelosi was.

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    Wow (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:06:32 PM EST
    How quickly you forget..  

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    Not at all (none / 0) (#36)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:33:26 PM EST
    If I'd forgotten I'd think Obama was doing great.

    You do know that there are now about the same number or more of US troops in Iraq/Afghanistan than there ever were under Bush at his peak, and more than that number of 'civilian' contractors, all apparently chasing down 50 or so superhuman al-qaeda terrists.

    Backup for the drones, I suppose.

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    Well (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:58:15 PM EST
    I can understand the rhetorical flourish, but if it were true, it would be better to vote for GOP. In fact if Obama was about the same as Bush, it would still be better to vote GOP.

    But, I do remember the Bush years, and quite frankly there is a world of difference, imo. Not that Obama is a champion of liberal/progressive policies, but at least he is not an outright fascist with an agenda of permanent GOP rule.

    Permanent GOP rule is not a wacko  conspiratorial theory, but a war plan which banks on having power long enough to be able to rig the game so that GOP wins every time. It started with the 1971 Powell memo, and culminated in the PNAC mission statement. Rove's wet dream never came to fruition.

    Although their hard work of creating a nation of bedwetters, did manage to shift the country to the right. It is not surprising that Obama defines the center, right of where I stand, but substantially left of mainstream GOP, imo.

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    Good point. (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:03:28 PM EST
    The gop is scary.

    They have a president in the white house. And most people don't notice because he calls himself a democrat, which is a good thing for him and the gop, since if he called himself a republican while doing all the things he's done since inauguration half the world would be screaming for his impeachment. No card carrying republican could get away with it.

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    Silly (none / 0) (#39)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:13:35 PM EST
    Just because Obama is to the right of you, doesn't make him a Republican.

    And, really, I do not see the point as an activist of going there. It makes more sense to fight for policies, and win a 2 out of 10 battles, than to be written off as someone that cannot be pandered to.

    IOW those who adore Obama and those who write him off as being like Bush, are the same from his point of view, Neither group has any influence because their positions are fixed.

    The groups he has to answer to are those who he may lose, or those he may win over.

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    Hmmm. You may have a point here. (none / 0) (#40)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:39:09 PM EST
    There is, I suppose, a remote possibility that Obama and the democrats might finally wake up and realize they need the independent and liberal votes they've thrown away since inauguration day last year, and that all the corporate donations in the world aren't going to save them without those votes, and start producing some useful progressive legislation and pass it in time for the midterms.

    They could have independents and liberals all across the country rewarding them for results instead of turning their backs on empty promises and the largest landslides in history this November with just a few simple moves.

    Creating and passing a an actual, real, universal single payer health care bill and rolling back the bailout of the insurance industry for example might do it all by itself, for example.

    Although they could probably sew it right up it for themselves by also starting torture and war crimes trials for Bush and Cheney, while withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan and breaking up the big Wall Street investment banks and doing Ken Lay numbers on Goldman Sachs's Lloyd Blankfein and Magnetar's Alec Litowitz, while firing Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke, and Rahm Emanuel.

    They've got 3 whole months, after all.

    They're smart people, right? They should be at least half as smart as all those independent and progressives who won't vote for them unless they do those things, right?

    It is a remote possibility I know, but really, they could wake up, I suppose, though I won't recommend that anyone hold their breath.

    After all, Obama and the democrats can't possibly be stupid enough to actually believe that independents and liberals are stupid enough to to vote to continue being screwed by them, can they?

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    Of course (none / 0) (#41)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:51:13 PM EST
    maybe having the Secret Service or the Capitol Police take lieberman and boehner down in the basement or out in the alley for a 'discussion' and 'explain' to them how it's going to be from now on might do it for them all by itself. ;-)

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    Yes (none / 0) (#43)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:03:43 PM EST
    I see that you want the entire candy store.

    The problem with prosecuting Bush and Cheney is where will it end. Grey Mail, after doing a whole lot of damage to the Democrats, imo.

    Now if there were an international tribunal that could use secret rendition, and announce a televised trial of the two, I would go for it.

    Here it would most likely fail, and tie up the DOJ, Congress, and WH, essentially shut down government for the next four years. And if you think the blue dress was expensive ($80Mil) well you aint seen nothing yet. Oh and the Democrats would have more egg on their face, enough to make the GOP look reasonable...

    Not worth the effort, imo. There are higher principals than granting 10% or less of US voters a big wet dream.

    And don't get me wrong, I would love to see them squirm and be sentenced to jail time, but not here in the US, rather in an international war crimes court.

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    Well, I'd like the entire candy store (none / 0) (#44)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:18:05 PM EST
    but all they really need to do is just one of those things and the republicans would be history in November.

    The problem with not prosecuting Bush and Cheney is where will it end:

    What we do, and what we vote and say, today, will ring down through the centuries.  And those who stand with Bush and Cheney, or oppose removing them, will do so at the peril of being on the wrong side of history.

    I wonder what it will be like to live, say a century or two in the future, when people may well look back at these days, shake their head and wonder "what ever possessed them, that they discarded all the rights they'd won, defended, and brought into other nations, merely for the illusory promise of 'security'?"

    Every now and again, when I listen to Austrian radio, I'll hear them refer to the "Grossdeutsche Wahn*" - that's the mass hysteria which accompanied the bullsh*t Hitler and his cronies sold the German-speaking (and a lot of the rest of the) world.  Sixty years on, they're still shaking their heads wondering "what the hell were we thinking".

    *"Wahn" means, roughly, "Craziness", "insanity" or "Hysteria".

    On the other hand, in a century or two, torture, degradation and authoritarianism may, because of Bush, Cheney and their henchmen, be as normal and accepted as breathing, eating and drinking.  After all, in ancient Rome, not only were there multitudes of slaves, but a slave could not testify without having been tortured first.  And everyone thought that normal.

    The paradigm for the future - for the descendents of those who may have kids today - is what the choices made today will decide.  And that is why the precedent we set today is eternal.  Once that choice is made, or ducked, it's done and the alternative path now available, is gone and can't be gotten back.

    Kapish?

    The concept of "eternal precedent"... will be blamed on Obama and the democrats. Not on Bush and Cheney. And will do a whole lot of damage to Obama and the the Democrats, not to mention the to the whole country. If there is one left.

    See, if the republican are batsh*t crazy, then what, exactly, is bipartisanship? Besides a way to sink the ship.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#45)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:40:19 PM EST
    Well I certainly do not believe in progress, in that we are no different and will be no different in a Century.

    Case in point, a century after slavery, most Americans do not shake their head and say, how could they have done that, most americans still think African Americans are a little smarter than monkeys.

    And the Austrians that scribe uses as an example, most of them wish that Hitler got all the jews and scum.

    So I am not particularly worried about what people think in a century, I am more concerned with now, and slowly weaning the fearfull from their depends®, while moving the country back towards the left side of the aisle.

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    Moving the country back towards the left? (none / 0) (#46)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:00:58 PM EST
    How's that working out?

    Jeralyn's title is an understatement. Assange's release of the documents is the Biggest Leak Yet of Documented War Crimes.

    It's no wonder Obama and Jim Jones are livid.

    There's no more room under the oval office rug to sweep all this stuff, after everything else they've swept under it the past year and a half.

    How is he going to 'pardon' this? And who's going to 'pardon' him and the democrats in November?

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    Working Stiffs v Pandering Pols (none / 0) (#47)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:19:16 PM EST
    Considering where we are coming from, and where we could be now, I think we are moving away from the craziness of BushCo. That would mean a move to the left.

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    Stupid Auto Fill (none / 0) (#48)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:20:22 PM EST
    Subject should say: Moving

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    Anyway, I've been up since 3am (none / 0) (#50)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:28:26 PM EST
    so I'm down for the night now. Take care, huh? Good conversation. Thanks. :-)

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    Yeah Goon One (none / 0) (#52)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:39:30 PM EST
    Thanks!

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    Good One...lol (none / 0) (#53)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:40:12 PM EST
    It's sounds like it is, but (none / 0) (#49)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:26:36 PM EST
    what is really happening for the past year and a half is that Obama and the democrats are pulling almost everyone to the right, while everyone who thinks that not pushing them as hard as possible is somehow "moving to the left" isn't noticing, and out of fear of republicans is becoming republicans.

    And asking those few of us who are hard left and pulling as hard as possible to ease up means only moving farther to the right.

    Two steps right and one step left repeatedly means you are moving toward the craziness of Bush, not away from it.

    Bipartisanship and 'give him time' and incrementalism is moving toward the craziness of Bush, not away from it.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#51)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:38:55 PM EST
    Optical illusion, imo.

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    And the numbers are real. (none / 0) (#42)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:54:13 PM EST
    You can look 'em up. I did.

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    No commander is telling any medic (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:25:34 PM EST
    that they must smother to death an Iraqi insurgent that they just worked very hard to resuscitate.  Marines aren't being ordered to  run around shooting people in the head who are carrying weapons and protecting a local farm while also working with the local Army troops.  Army soldiers aren't frantically trying to explain and stop it and crying while people they know are being blown away right in front of them.  These are only a few of the things that  supposedly happened in that first year in Iraq, shameful things.

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    Don't get married (none / 0) (#34)
    by Edger on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:28:41 PM EST
    outside in Afghanistan or Pakistan...

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    I'm not Polish (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 07:32:14 PM EST
    But Obama told liberals to keep fighting (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Dadler on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:42:46 AM EST
    Link

    I guess he meant "Fight, but not in ways that involve courage and genuine risk, or that might actually expose the idiocy behind this policy."

    The End? (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 08:45:03 PM EST
    Hopefully this marks the start of our withdrawal. It has been long enough, the longest, in fact.

    hmm .. we want to withdraw from ... (none / 0) (#30)
    by nyrias on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 05:09:38 PM EST
    iraq .. but why do we want to withdraw from Afgan.

    It is not like it is a lie that the taliban harbored al qaeta, is it? Don't tell me there is no Al Qaeta in Afgan.

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    apparently, we're now doomed (none / 0) (#4)
    by cpinva on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:05:18 PM EST
    to repeat the " Pentagon Papers" once a generation, with nearly replicated warnings coming from the white house, as from the nixon administration.

    of course, the original Pentagon Papers merely embarrassed both the military and two administrations, with zero effect on either national security, or the safety of our troops. it would appear the newest crop repeats that as well.

    Oh, no. If this one went to the Supremes (none / 0) (#7)
    by Cream City on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:45:25 PM EST
    as did the Pentagon Papers re prior restraint, I would not count on the same result with the Roberts court.

    Good thing for our Constitution, I guess, that this came out in the Guardian.

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    I forgot to add (none / 0) (#9)
    by Cream City on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 09:47:49 PM EST
    for sher again that this is snark, i.e., historical irony.  

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    Repeat . . . . (none / 0) (#12)
    by nycstray on Sun Jul 25, 2010 at 10:53:58 PM EST
    seems to be the way of life/history. I used to get so frustrated in history classes "studying" the "history" of "repeat" . . .

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    Greenwald says (none / 0) (#14)
    by kmblue on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 01:55:55 AM EST
    the media frenzy will be about whether the leaks should have been published, not what they reveal.
    And this is what's changed since the Pentagon papers.  Great press we got now.  And cheers for Wikileaks, long may they wave.

    One of my 'through the looking glass' (none / 0) (#15)
    by ruffian on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 08:42:26 AM EST
    moments in the tributes to Dan Schorr this weekend came from one of the blowhards pontificating that when Dan was working in the 70's it was a totally different media environment - it was not like now where the government and media have an adversarial relationship.

    May have been Howard Kurtz on CNN, cuz I believe I was at the gym at the time. In any event, I'm sure he had to take a break from talking to his anonymous WH sources to make the comment.

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    It strikes me that many of the leaked reports (none / 0) (#17)
    by ruffian on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:11:24 AM EST
    I've read are the types of things that decent reporting by press in the field would have been telling us all along.

    and has, in many cases, by the way (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:12:09 AM EST
    You are correct in one way (none / 0) (#20)
    by Slado on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:48:52 AM EST
    But as I post below we've distracted ourselves with the issues of proper trials and whether terrorists should be kept in Cuba or Illinois.

    Meanwhile there is very little comparative coverage or concern about the killings our government is carrying out daily by remote control.

    Its almost like Bush/Obama would rather have us argue about the ideals of our legal systems rather then worry about what our armed forces are doing half way around the world.

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    Good point (none / 0) (#21)
    by ruffian on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:06:58 AM EST
    I agree that we can walk and chew gum at the same time, but we don't do it often enough.

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    I hope these papers put the war on terror (none / 0) (#19)
    by Slado on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 09:44:56 AM EST
    in its proper perspective.

    Instead of worrying about what we are doing in our own country and in Gitmo people should take their concerns across the ocean to where our government is actually killing people.

    While we've whined about the cushy accommodations of known terrorists our government has been executing "suspects" with no trial or jury and taking a few civilians with them in the process.

    Why the outrage over water boarding and not outrage over drone killings and secret hit squads?

    I guess it's easier to complain about the stuff you know or understand then the stuff you only wonder about.

    Hopefully this lets people know where the truly questionable behavior in our war on terror is happening every day without much fan fair.

    While concerns over our home grown war on terror are valid my point is not to say we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.  My point is only that while we've ruminated our government has used these concerns to distract us while it does the real dirty work over seas.

    We could water board 1,000 Mohammeds in my view and not do 1/1,000th of the damage and destruction we've done with unmanned predator drones.  And unlike water boarding that is still happening.

    Coverage (none / 0) (#22)
    by waldenpond on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 10:14:15 AM EST
    CNN-weather
    MSNBC... Pak supporting attacks in Afghan, Assange clip 'tried hard not to put innocents at risk, data is more than 7 months old' Talking head-most would disagree with that, I lost someone in '07, Gen what's your view of this hemorrage? Gen-lets enemies see what we evaluate, they can adjust, it's a problem for the troops... [box-review of Wikileaks will take days or weeks.]  

    CNN-[box-website posts classified documents] Starr on-are we publishing info that could put troops at risk.  Other guy-what would the US like to do to that man? (Assange) Starr-that's a given.  Leaked other info.  Guy-we need to find out if there is an arrest warrant out for this guy.

    Summary seems to be that the docs are no big deal which would indicate not a threat to the troops but the leak is a threat to the troops.  ok then.


    9:00 (none / 0) (#26)
    by waldenpond on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 12:47:09 PM EST
    MSNBC BP
    CNN Af/Pak Pakistan supporting the Taliban fighting US.  Pak fears India.  Leak puts troops at risk.  How sensitive? Secret not top-secret.

    10:00
    MSNBC: BP then Af/Pak tropps at risk, questioning the war strategy, big problems for the WH
    CNN: Af/Pak Pak says reports utterly false, Pak spies and weapons to Taliban.
    Fox: Assange trying to undermine support, may have been war crimes-no one in this building agrees with that, how does Assange manage to stay outside reach of US law, (replay of clip discussing capturing Assange when he visits US) what will happen to Assange.

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    WH Press Confer (none / 0) (#25)
    by waldenpond on Mon Jul 26, 2010 at 12:43:15 PM EST
    Breach of Fed law.  Giving names, ops, programs against law, harmful to thos in military, those coop with our military and those keeping us safe.  An ongoing investigation into leak predates this leak of highly classified docs.

    Is Pak a reliable partner? we've seen what's reported publicly discussed by you and named govt officials.  Historical relationships between Tali and Pak discussed,... no blank check for Pak, had to change, no more safe havens, extremists there targeting inno Paks so you've seen progress, status quo not acceptable.  Ability of govt to protect info? no doubt, concerning in op sec., real and potential threat to those keeping us safe.

    US continue billions to help Taliban? as I said Pres said 2009 mixed results, can't give a blank check to Pak.  Progress in relationship, safe havens, extremists in SWAT and S Wasiristan, extremists that had safe havens now threaten their country.  We are there because of what happened on 9/11.  No safe havens in Af, and will continue to make progress. Sec State comments in Pak, our criticism is public and private, will continue to do so.

    Leak, is it accurate?  What is being reported has been discussed.  NYT in Mar 2009 by same authors.  

    Consumer regulator?  No time line.  Criteria? Many good candidates, reason Pres wanted this because most not on WS trading level.. loans, buying a home, protect those on Main St.  WS opposition to Warren being weighed? Warren terrific candidate, criticism won't disqualify, confirmable.  MSNBC moves on

    CNN: Gibbs- potential to do harm.  Names put individuals at great risk.  Worse embarrass WH?  No revelations.  Info covers 01/04 12/09 can't speak for most of that time.  O ordered more troops, painstaking review, speech new direction, emphasis on our relationship.  Can you erase mistakes made prior in a situation too far gone to turn around with policy change?  not resourced enough, threatens our security, for years troops needed, painstaking review.  Pak govt has spies meeting with Tal to attack troops and Af soldiers?  If Pak working with Tal how can you say war going better?  relationship improving.  Fighting for commom cause(slightly mocking)?  Yes, extremist marching on Pak became a threat to Pak.  Can you say Pak no longer working with Tal? making progress,  no one has declared mission accomplished,  9/11 years underresourced,

    Leaks, WH immediate change? DoD can discuss changes.  Motivation of Wiki?  No, DoD might.  President response angry, concerned?  Against the law, alarming 90k published on website.  Sherrod job? Don't know.

    Focusing on release rather than content, civilian casualties Pak/Taliban? 03/09 speech, debate about McCrystal demonstrates frustration around rules of engagement and civilian casualties.  Nothing changed by these docs. 03/09 Pres safe havens, hearts and minds capture with civilians captured in firefight

    Shocked? Pres does not need to read to be shocked by unnecessary casualty of civi lives, McCrystal Eikenberry saw Pak areas of horrific civi casualties, tragedy, job harder

    Harmed or will harm war effort? potential names, missions, secret for a reason, that's the law.  Op security concerns.  Challenges the same today as last week.  Anticipate progress difficult, slow.

    Constitute need for eval?

    Wiki not objective?  compared us to secret east-german police, has an agenda.  Impact accuracy?  Did they hold back favorable?  We don't know what they do/don't have.  Attack credibility of docs?  haven't seen 90k, coverage does not materially change challenges with Af/Pak.

    Leaker in custody?  ongoing investigation.  

    LeBaron letter US preferred compassionate release?  Letter released by State Dept, no preference, pref in letter, pref in Pres, Al Megrahi not be released.  Not released, it was we agreed with.  Don't let him go to Libya.  Asked for inde Med eval.  CNN moving on.  Talking head... ? Assange is someone who clearly has an agenda.