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    funny (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:43:47 PM EST
    I googled "cordoba center safety concerns" and the first selection was my own comment in the previous thread.

    would that be called chasing your tail?

    Great minds think alike (none / 0) (#20)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:51:54 PM EST
    And that is fast indexing by Google....

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    Pillars (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:11:21 PM EST
    Is anyone watching the miniseries Pillars of the Earth based on Ken Follet's book?  It is on Starz and features the Deadwood actor Ian McShane....Great villain.

    Pretty good stuff...

    yes (none / 0) (#31)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:51:52 PM EST
    pretty good.
    they are taking some of the fire away from HBO and SHO with this and Spartacus

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    Yep (none / 0) (#34)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:28:45 PM EST
    I like it.

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    When did it start? (none / 0) (#42)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 08:31:01 PM EST
    If I start watching now will I be lost?

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    Starz on demand (none / 0) (#47)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:08:05 PM EST
    You can watch from the beginning.

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    Wow (none / 0) (#49)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:22:18 PM EST
    Looks good...

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    Bail (none / 0) (#53)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:47:27 PM EST
    Didn't like Sparticus either.  

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    Too Gooey For Me (none / 0) (#50)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:42:48 PM EST
    Or something....  got through 20 minutes...

    Just watched Hamlet with David Tennant (Dr Who) and William Stewart (Capt Picard)....  3 hours.  Really good, even though an hour is edited out of the play.

    Good to watch with the text nearby, in case you don't get something they are saying.

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    Link (none / 0) (#51)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:43:46 PM EST
    PBS Hamlet

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    yes (none / 0) (#55)
    by CST on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 09:20:56 AM EST
    and for those of us who don't have starz, it's also available on Netflix instant streaming.

    First couple episodes were ok, but it keeps getting better.

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    I'm trying (none / 0) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12:59 AM EST
    I have to DVR it and watch it when nothing distracting is going on.  I liked the book much better, even though it has been forever since I read it.  I got a much more profound feeling for some reason from the book, so much of what I would consider poverty and giant Cathedrals taking form directly out of that.

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    arcane color information (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 04:50:27 PM EST
    color is very important to us here.  we take it very seriously.  so variations in color can be a big problem.  in trying to find the source of some of the variations our tech people made an interesting, and I think rather stunning, discovery.

    the browser you use has a HUGE influence on the color of the image displayed.  HUGE.  
    we didnt believe it at first but side by side comparisons prove it.  I cant show you because you would see in with the color influence of whatever browser you use.  

    but be aware.  if exact color is important to you make sure you look at it in all available browsers.

    ps
    chrome was the worst.  which I hate because I love chrome.

    Hilarious In A Way (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:20:15 PM EST
    Because color is not a constant. It looks the way it does due to the color of light it is seen in. IOW a green leaf, in natural light, changes color through out the day.

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    well sure (none / 0) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:23:18 PM EST
    and frankly its a nightmare for us.  it was even worst when I worked in broadcast.  the standard is called NTSC.
    which we always said means Never The Same Color.

    but you are correct.  it the worst when you are trying to do something subtle.  like a very dark scene.  on one monitor it looks great on another it is completely black.  and on still another it looks flat and washed out.

    its the burden we bare.

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    Bare your burden (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:04:30 PM EST
    Someplace else buddy.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:28:15 PM EST
    I have done quite a bit of color printing for exhibition, and shooting transparencies of painting and sculpture for reproduction....  

    Nightmare indeed.

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    My sculpts were easy (none / 0) (#35)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:32:58 PM EST
    all white matte type surface, so in a light overcast/open shade setting details/detail of the form was there. My studio had large double doors I could open for lighting from the second floor. I actually worked a lot from that light as I used it in the pieces, so photographing it from there . . . . My paintings, not quite such a breeze.

    I was just out back trying to photograph my first apples from the tree and get an accurate rep. The Dot ate the big one, Yankee the youngster cat thought it was a game, but I think once I sorted the animals, I got something decent, until the light and surroundings change that is ;)

    Do we ever know what color anything is?

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    Sounds Beautiful (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:42:10 PM EST
    And yes, we do know what a color something is, at a given moment. It is also hard to know what someone else sees.

    Synesthesia is interesting in that those who have it, see a particular color when they hear a particular note or key. The problem is that no two people who have synesthesia see the same color in their minds eye in response to a give note or key.

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    My son (none / 0) (#45)
    by Molly Pitcher on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 10:19:45 PM EST
    has that; he is a musician.

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    Nice (none / 0) (#46)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 10:42:04 PM EST
    It is a pretty special condition, imo....  Skryabin had it... and Kandinsky as well..  

    Both great artists who used their gift of synesthesia to inform their art.

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    [Scriabin.] (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:14:45 PM EST


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    I Prefer The Russian Looking Spelling (none / 0) (#52)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 11:46:21 PM EST
    looks better IMO. Considering that his name was in cyrilic..

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    From (none / 0) (#56)
    by oculus on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12:13 AM EST
    скриабин

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    Yup (none / 0) (#59)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 12:34:33 PM EST
    And I think I got my transliteration from german editions of his piano music...  

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    um (none / 0) (#14)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:37:26 PM EST
    bear?

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#17)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:49:16 PM EST


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    the burden we bare (none / 0) (#18)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:50:07 PM EST
    the burden we bear?

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    Got It (none / 0) (#24)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:49 PM EST
    Yeah homonyms are tough for bad spellers like me who totally depend on spellcheck.... lol

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    Not surprising. (none / 0) (#2)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 04:53:46 PM EST
    For a while I was fairly involved with cinematographers and digital post-production. Browsers, monitors, different software, etc., they pretty much all vary...

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    well (none / 0) (#3)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 04:56:38 PM EST
    we certainly knew about different monitors and software.  that is why I sit in front of five monitors because doing lighting I need to see it in as many situations as possible.

    but none of us had any idea that the browser itself could influence the color so much.  on the same monitor.


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    In that same vein (none / 0) (#5)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:06:50 PM EST
    I wonder if different ISP's have different color renditions? DSL v. say cable? Different cable providers? Different servers? Different modems? I used to be into this geeky stuff, not so much anymore...

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    excellent (none / 0) (#6)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:08:01 PM EST
    question.  

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    Monitor age? (none / 0) (#7)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:09:36 PM EST


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    I wonder if anyone (none / 0) (#4)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:00:07 PM EST
    has a Tebow's-first-concussion pool going yet.

    Did anyone else catch the Tim Tebow hazing? (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:13:55 PM EST


    I thought it was a good look... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:30:54 PM EST
    ...for Timmay.  There was a dude at the game last night with a monk wig--and a Tebow jersey.

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    I thought the monk's tonsure (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by scribe on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:38:08 PM EST
    really worked for him.

    Too bad he decided to ditch it in favor of the buzz cut.  It would have made some good anti-concussion padding inside the helmet.

    And been very distinctive, too.

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    Tebow is more contriversial... (none / 0) (#13)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:35:25 PM EST
    ...than what the PGA did to Dustin Johnson (stupid cheeseheads and their idea of a sandtrap) or the Twins coach pulling his pitcher while he had a no hitter going?  

    BTW--enjoy Carmello you Knick fans.  

    Slowey was pulled by his manager, not coach (none / 0) (#22)
    by DFLer on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:52:56 PM EST
    As you know, that's what they call the boss in baseball.

    Secondly, Gardenhire was looking out for the longer health of his pitcher, Slowey, by not doing a Lasorda on him. Lasorda ragged out many an arm by overuse, including the great Fernando Valenzuela...for which I will never forgive him (Lasorda, that is).

    As for Slowey, he would have never finished nine anyway:


    "I'd be booing, too," Gardenhire said. "I want to see a no-hitter myself, but I also know that I'm responsible for this young man's arm, and we were going to protect him no matter what."

    Slowey needed 106 pitches to get through seven innings. He was making his first start since Aug. 5, when he threw a season-high 114 pitches in a start at Tampa Bay. He missed his next scheduled start -- last Wednesday at Chicago -- because of elbow tendinitis.

    "I'm not going to let him throw 125-130 pitches; it's just not going to happen," Gardenhire said. "If he went back out for one more inning, he'd probably be around 115-120 and be done anyway. There's no way he was going to finish. He's got too big of a career ahead of him."


    Star Tribune

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    No problem with pulling Slowey (none / 0) (#28)
    by scribe on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:47:33 PM EST
    Joe Torre pulled David Cone after pitching 6 perfect innings in his first start back from aneurysm-correcting surgery in the middle of the Yankees' 1996 stretch drive.  Gardenhire was quite correct for doing it.

    As to knuckleheads, try this one:  Mets closer K-Rod not only got busted for allegedly beating up his [approximately] father-in-law in the players' families lounge at New Shea, after the F-i-L told him to "be a man" and "play better" (for that he got a two-game suspension without pay from the Mets last week), and not only was the first player to spend the night in the jail at the stadium before being perp-walked in the cold light of morning over to Queens Criminal Court for his arraignment.  There's more.

    He did the alleged beating with his pitching hand.  Now he's reported to need season-ending surgery to repair a thumb ligament in said pitching hand and is not travelling with the team on their current road trip.

    Maybe he missed the screening of Bull Durham in the minors:  never hit that drunk with your pitching hand.

    But it would be a Met doing this.

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    what did the pga do? (none / 0) (#58)
    by pitachips on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 10:16:10 AM EST
    If he hadn't hit it 40 yards off the fairway he wouldn't have had the problem.

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    prop8 appeal denied? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:47:31 PM EST
    or so I hear.  detail to come.
    Prop 8 remains in effect in California. (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:50:56 PM EST
    The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals granted a stay Monday afternoon, scheduling a hearing for the week of December 6 in San Francisco. Gay marriages, which had been set to resume as of 5 p.m. Wednesday, are back on hold.

    Arguments must be submitted prior to the December hearing:

       The opening brief is now due September 17, 2010. The answering brief is due October 18, 2010. The reply brief is due November 1, 2010.

    More details in a moment.

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    this is from stinque (none / 0) (#21)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:52:39 PM EST
    not sure where he is getting it.

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    Here we go.... (none / 0) (#23)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:17 PM EST
    And the stay would likely be re-issued by the Ninth Circuit pending any action by the Supreme Court....

    No marriage licenses for awile.

    So, it would be the term in 2011 that the Supreme Court takes this case--with a decision right before the 2012 election....

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    More importantly (none / 0) (#26)
    by jbindc on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:13:55 PM EST
    If it would get put off any further, there will be a new governor and attorney general in California - ones who may actually want to pursue the litigation (since they would be the actual appellants).

    Volokh and SCOTUSblog and Prawfsblog have some great rundowns about the standing issue.

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    And the 9th Cir, accelerated the briefing (none / 0) (#30)
    by scribe on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:50:24 PM EST
    and required the appellants to brief the issue of whether they have standing.
    FDL has the order up on their site.

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    Meanwhile, the court of appeals (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Peter G on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:56:50 PM EST
    has extended the stay until issuance of the appellate decision.  Following briefing the case will be heard before three judges on some day, yet to be pinpointed, during the week of December 6.  For those in the mood to read shadows of tea leaves, the court did not merely order the proponents to brief the issue of whether, without support from either the Governor or the Attorney General, they have standing to appeal, but actually directed them to include in their brief "a discussion of why this appeal should not be dismissed for lack of Article III standing" -- which spins the question against them.  To download and read the order from the "How Appealing" blog, click this link.

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    So, don't leave us in suspense. Did (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 06:48:24 PM EST
    Tebow do o.k.?

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by magster on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:18:11 PM EST
    He did better than Brady Quinn, and the QB controversy is who gets to be Kyle Orton's backup. Tebow looked like he wanted to be out there. Quinn looked like he wanted to quit.

    Orton had a great game, calling an audible that led to a TD, had another TD pass, had two long completions... he even <gasp> scrambled away from a couple of sacks.  

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#39)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:59:43 PM EST
    ...Quinn looked just awful.  So much for that fresh start in a new town.  I can't see the Broncos keeping 3 QB's on the active roster once the season starts and Brady looks to be the odd man out...

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    Via link from right side of TL page: (none / 0) (#36)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 07:39:21 PM EST
    Income difference between spouses leads to infidelity

    Caution:  Drudge.

    The first comment sums it up perfectly.

    Got my new passport... (none / 0) (#40)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 08:06:50 PM EST
    ...in the mail today.  Already lined my portfolio with tin foil, so I'm good to go.  Pretty quick turn around--which is nice as I get a bit antsy not having one.  There's talk of a South American cruise next year...  

    But my oh my, what an terrible picture--it looks like I am mentally challenged (which some might argue is the case) or a stroke survivor.  Gawh...

    If you look like (none / 0) (#54)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 08:39:27 AM EST
    your passport picture, you're too sick to travel.

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    Gates leaving Defense Dept in 2011 (none / 0) (#41)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 08:29:56 PM EST
    After POTUS completes evaluation of the status of the war in Aghanistan he told Slate's Fred Kaplan.

    Let the jockeying for position begin.....

    Judge issues a well-deserved rejection (none / 0) (#43)
    by shoephone on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 09:05:14 PM EST
    of confinement under California's three strikes law.

    Judge Peter Espinoza, who denied (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 16, 2010 at 10:00:57 PM EST
    Mr. Polanski's motion.  This one took a reallllly long time:  

    Law students are reviewing about 20 more three-strikes cases, said Reiko Rogozen, a student who worked on the Taylor case. The cases are chosen based on letters from inmates, or are selected from a list presented by District Attorney Steve Cooley of Los Angeles as some of the harshest sentences under the law. Mr. Cooley often spoke of Mr. Taylor's case in his 2000 campaign for district attorney against Gil Garcetti, who supported the law.


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