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It's not a first amendment case but rather a case of the first amendment working. We are free to say what we want and also free to suffer the consequences from our choice of words. Parent
Warner once zinged a Golden Glove boxer from my old neighborhood real good when he was on CBS Channel 2 back in the day...something like "get that bum outta there!". Classic.
And he was one of the last to cover everyday horse racing on the evening news.
"Lets go to the videotape!" Parent
He's got his own show on ESPN Radio on Saturdays too. Parent
But Glenn Beck was his guest.... Parent
its hard to read that transcript and come to the same decision about her Parent
But I would not begin to attempt to rank one as worse than the other -- but then again, I seem to have been one of the few I have found who closely watched the team's news conferences and watched the faces of those marvelous young women, some of our best and brightest and strong and hard-working ones, who essentially had been called whores.
And I also never will forget the faces of their mothers and fathers who were there.
Ask any of them whether it was a gendered slur or a racial slur. It was both, but who cares? when it's your daughter so denigrated in front of the country. Parent
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I just read the whole transcript. The least of her transgressions was shouting a racial epithet. Basically, she just called Jade a stupid, self-pitying person exhibiting these characteristics as racially programmed behavioral deficits - and then found a lame-ass excuse to start shouting racial epithets. The caller was looking for a strategy to deal with some cruel stereotyping from her husband and his friends that had nothing to do with racial epithets and the radio lady decided she just needed to be put in her place for interpreting this vile abuse accurately as emotional violence. This is where she crossed the line into white supremacist rhetoric: "And what I just heard from Jade is a lot of what I hear from black-think"
SarahPalinUSA Dr.Laura:don't retreat...reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence"isn't American,not fair") SarahPalinUSA Dr.Laura=even more powerful & effective w/out the shackles, so watch out Constitutional obstructionists. And b thankful 4 her voice,America!
SarahPalinUSA Dr.Laura=even more powerful & effective w/out the shackles, so watch out Constitutional obstructionists. And b thankful 4 her voice,America!
Not just applauding -- encouraging. Parent
I want her to be the nominee. I fear Romney. Parent
I predict here and now that she is gone after Super Tuesday (if not before).
Don't forget - ALL the focus will be on the Republicans, so every Tweet, every quote, every FB entry will be magnified. Not to mention that the media hates her, so she will get no fawning adoration or halos airbrushed in photos. Parent
They are hungry to win. She'll get spikes in the polls when she says something that throws them red meat, but she cannot sustain for the long term through a campaign on her own.
She'll be used as a fundraiser, but when many Republicans don't even like her, she doesn't stand a chance. Parent
and about Huckabee. I think he could also be a threat. possibly more so than Romney. he is a very skilled politician. unlike some people. Parent
Romney - noticed from a recent photo has stopped his Botox treatments. He does have deep furrows across his forehead - wonder if networks, other than Fox, will air brush those out! Parent
George Dubya Bush Parent
Appealing - Bill Clinton must have been making a joke! Parent
and more importantly he is no Palin stupid. he is smart and articulate (in a neanderthal way) and he knows the issues.
be afraid. Parent
He is smarter than Palin, and still has that folksy (sp??) way. I think he can go beyond thumpers in another run. If he pulls back a bit, his "base" already knows him, he could fool others . . .
I can't tell ya how much I want to live somewhere where I don't have to deal with this sh*t. Parent
Chris Rock and more Chris Rock.
Please note: maybe offensive language or maybe not Parent
I think it would be a good thing if demeaning language was not tolerated within anyone's own cultural, ethnic, family or community group, because it serves no overall positive purpose. Parent
Words gain their meaning by the intent of the speaker. Two people could use the word nigger and mean completely opposite things. In fact Dr Laura's use of the word was not offensive at all. What was offensive were all the other normal every day words she used to show what a racist she was. Parent
"I can say this and do that because I'm in the group where it is allowed and you're not" is just plain asking to be offended. Parent
It is their right alone - not those that didn't face the oppression and discrimination.
(Trying to make sense in words what I feel in my heart.) Parent
As long as you have not heard the exchange, you really don't know have a firm grasp on what you are talking about. Parent
I guess I will have to live with that because I would rather pierce both my eardrums with rusty forks than listen the that braying harpy. Parent
Just don't be surprised if your use of certain words reflects poorly on you, or offends others...that's all. Dr. Laura's use, apparently, offended others and reflected poorly on her. Parent
Hearing it is much different than reading it. Parent
I did not and will not hear it. I read it. I know what she said. and even if I did I doubt very much her engaging folksy style would change my opinion of what she said. Parent
Some say experience mattered more then, personality less -- but personality communicated on the screen apparently mattered most, at least in the debate. Interestingly different factors were delineated in the election, though -- but some factors then were discounted in later studies of the election.
And it was early days in trying to assess the impact of teevee -- as well as the impact of a presidential candidates' debate at all, with no basis for comparison. Parent
She's a nasty, nasty piece of work, IMHO.
To me, the worst thing she said in her whole tirade was after the caller objected to her use of the "N" word, she said to her, "Don't NAACP me." Wow. Parent
"OK, what do blacks think? What do whites think? What do Jews think? What do Catholics think?" Of course there isn't a one-think per se. But in general there's "think."
I agree, with her here. How is that racist. People of different backgrounds have different points of view. I'm a white person, and with this Arizona law I asked some of my latino friends what they thought of it, because they are latino and may have a different point of view on the subject because of it. Parent
Breaking from the president and the majority of her party, Robin Carnahan, the Democratic Senate candidate in Missouri, announced on Thursday that she supports extending the Bush tax cuts for all recipients, including the wealthy. In an appearance before the state fair in Sedalia, Missouri, Carnahan stressed that "now [was] not the time to raise taxes" for members of any income class. Tony Messenger, a reporter with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, was at the fair and tweeted the news. A Carnahan campaign aide confirmed the Secretary of State's position to the Huffington Post. link
In an appearance before the state fair in Sedalia, Missouri, Carnahan stressed that "now [was] not the time to raise taxes" for members of any income class. Tony Messenger, a reporter with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, was at the fair and tweeted the news. A Carnahan campaign aide confirmed the Secretary of State's position to the Huffington Post. link
P.S. I abandoned the book when the protagonist jumped out the window at the ashram. Talk about a navel gazer.
You can use words that apply to yourself differently than you use words that apply to others. Period.
And that's true no matter what group you self-identify with. Parent
But there is the history and power-relationship factor to the n word which does not exist with cracker - that's true as well. Parent
You can use words that apply to yourself differently than you use words that apply to others. Period. And that's true no matter what group you self-identify with.
And that's true no matter what group you self-identify with.
So in todays society, for the most part, its ok for black people to call black people the N word, for white people to call white people cracker, for black people to call white people cracker (or any other derogitory term), but its unacceptable for white people to say the N word in any context at all. Parent
read more of my comments. you will. Parent
But I don't think public figures could really get away with either one. Can you imagine Oprah getting away with calling someone a cracker? I sure can't.
Unless they are comedians. And I've certainly heard white comedians who are free with the N word and do not get heat for it - because of how it's used. Parent
I didn't even know who Dr. Laura was before this happend, but I listened to the audio to form my own opinion and she was asking why its ok to hear the word over and over again from black people, but if a white person says it then they are a racist, no matter what context they used it in. It may not have been the best way to ask the question, but I don't think it was a racist question. Parent
So I caught that Oprah episode with the cast of `Crash' last night and I am now inclined to believe that the Chappelle Theory is at least somewhat based in fact. It was so disgusting how Oprah sat up there and chastised Terrence Howard, Luda, and Don Cheadle for using the word nigga, while the camera cuts to shots of her 90% white audience nodding their heads in blind agreement. Oh please, you mindless middle class white soccer moms who can't even go into a bookstore on your own and buy something unless Oprah deems it worthy, can spare me your irrelevant opinions. Like who the hell asked ya'll anyway what you think of that word? Your ancestors created it, but now you can't even hear it because it offends your politically correct sensibilities? And then they all want to cry and sh!t while Howard tells the story about his father getting beat up and thrown in jail? Kill yourselves. And did you see that racist black chick talking about she wouldn't let a black locksmith change her locks because she's afraid he would turn around and sell the key to somebody? Luda looked like he wanted to slap spit outta her mouth. I will say however, that although it was obvious that Luda's comments were edited, I don't feel like he came across as `the ignorant rapper.' He made some decent comments, but it was painfully obvious that Oprah didn't appreciate his presence on the show. It's all good though Oprah, `cuz in 20 years when somebody like Hov or Russell are in the position you're in, we won't have to deal with close minded fools like yourself that feel they should control the domestic policy of black people. To borrow a phrase from Bol, let's hunt and kill Oprah.
Do some comedians do it and get away with it? Sure. But I know plenty of white comedians who get away with the other one too because of context. Comedians will always have more leeway than others, depending on how it's being used.
But I don't think you'll really see too many people defending the use of the word cracker in other contexts. Do people use it? Sure. But it's meant to be offensive. Kind of like all the white people who use the "n" word (sorry Louis C.K.) when they are talking about black people to each other - which does happen. Parent
Summit Entertainment have released the movie trailer for Doug Liman's political drama Fair Game. The film stars Naomi Watts as real-life undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame and Sean Penn as her husband Joe Wilson. We all know the story which captured the news headlines, but the movie tells the tale from a more personal perspective. I had a chance to screen this film at the Cannes Film Festival and very much enjoyed it. I think a lot of people will be surprised at just how uninteresting the life of an undercover CIA operative really is, definitely nothing like it has been portrayed in most of the films over the years. But the political story that results from Plame's identity leak is far more interesting and compelling. Watch the trailer now embedded after the jump.
Watch the trailer now embedded after the jump.
Somebody get them real jobs...pretty please:) Parent
And I couldn't care less that Roger Clemens was on the juice and lied about to Congress...you're supposed to lie to authorities about your illegal drug use...I mean duh! Parent
What about all the Bush people that lied on every subject for 8 yrs? Whether it was leaks, wire tapping or torture.
As a citizen I am a lot more concerned about what the crooks in government are doing, than what some athlete is doing. (Like we didn't know steroids are common in all sports today). Parent
Also relevant, as I recall his career, were his stints playing for teams like the TX Rangers, Boston RedSox, and NY Yankees -- just about the trifecta as far as despised baseball teams for me. Although I didn't mind the cursed Sox so much until Schilling came along and they actually started winning WS.
That said, I'd gladly trade a Clemons indictment for the fed going after look-the-other-way MLB Comm'r Bud Selig, if that could be arranged. Parent
Yes, I'm that petty. Parent
I. cant. wait. sept 26th
And the NYPD must be so proud...another pointless drug sweep, but this time it is they netted a 12 year old girl. Naturally she will be charged with felonies...we're as bad as the crew that put her on the streets to sling dope, I swear. This girl surely needs some hugs, not chains and a cage.
The results from a new Pew make you want to shake your head about, well, the entire media landscape of the 21st century. Per the survey, only 34% believe -- correctly -- that President Obama is a Christian (down 17 points since 2008); 18% think he's a Muslim (up six points since '08); and 43% say they don't know his religion (up 11 points). Inside the numbers: "The belief that Obama is a Muslim has increased most sharply among Republicans (up 14 points since 2009), especially conservative Republicans (up 16 points)," the poll's press release says. "But the number of independents who say Obama is a Muslim has also increased significantly (up eight points)." These results don't many anyone look good -- Obama's political opponents (who have helped spread false information about the president's religion and birthplace), the press (which obviously hasn't done its job here, thanks to some outlets even serving as a megaphone by running false equivalency debates), and the American populace (which should be embarrassed).
wtf Parent
And ya never know, miracles happen and a lighbulb can illuminate in the dimmest of craniums. Parent
But with all sorts of ground rules established early on about civility -- and especially even encouraging compliments to each other before critiquing -- most in this very disparate group are able to discuss, if agreeing to disagree.
What is important, I think, is not challenging religiously held beliefs -- so imposing my own -- but challenging misinformation. So I just wrote yet another of my many, many clarifications of the facts (about Roe v. Wade, about subsequent rulings, about the Thomas-Hill hearings, about the ERA, etc. -- or in other courses, it would e all those and about antiwar protests in the Vietnam Era, etc., etc.). Sigh.
Will they change their beliefs? I hope not, not based on one college course. Will they examine their beliefs, in the light of some corrected information? I hope so. If we have better informed conservatives, especially those who learn from this to challenge all that they will hear ahead without clarifications to find out on their own, we may be able to get back to civil discourse and effective compromises in this country. Parent
Federal authorities have decided to indict Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs
NY Times
I went out to lunch one day with some co-workers, and there was an elderly gentleman outside the restaurant handing out recipes. One of my male co-workers asked for one. The man told him "just get your wife to make it for you" and handed the recipe to the woman standing next to him - who most certainly was not his wife. Jaws dropped but we all just kind of laughed about it, and she gave him the recipe when we were inside.
If that was anyone under 70 I guarantee they both would have said something.
Tho' I sort of think gaydar exists. Parent
wonder woman? Parent
Passengers Detained On Delayed SFO Flight SAN FRANCISCO -- Two people were detained on an American Airlines 767 aircraft Thursday after a phone threat was called to local authorities, a witness on the plane told KTVU. A threat of a potential hijacker onboard an American Airlines 767 jet at San Francisco International Airport Thursday forced the flight to be delayed and the passengers rescreened, officials said. A spokesman for the San Francisco International Airport said a threat was called in to the Alameda County Sheriff's Department reporting that a hijacker may be onboard. The plane was taken to the tarmac and the passengers were to be removed and rescreened.
SAN FRANCISCO -- Two people were detained on an American Airlines 767 aircraft Thursday after a phone threat was called to local authorities, a witness on the plane told KTVU.
A threat of a potential hijacker onboard an American Airlines 767 jet at San Francisco International Airport Thursday forced the flight to be delayed and the passengers rescreened, officials said.
A spokesman for the San Francisco International Airport said a threat was called in to the Alameda County Sheriff's Department reporting that a hijacker may be onboard.
The plane was taken to the tarmac and the passengers were to be removed and rescreened.