Open thread.
Go Yanks!
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On another note - here are a few photos of the Anti-War / OWS rally that is taking place outside my office as we speak. I'm not the greatest photographer, and it would have been better if I was on a balcony taking pictures of the crowd, but there are some interesting signs over there. There are a few hundred people over there - Veterans for Peace, union groups, immigrant groups, etc.
My favorite (which I didn't get a picture of) is from a co-worker. It says, "Citizens United Against Citizens United". (Ah, lawyers.....)
"They sent me to Iraq, and when I got home they sent me the bill." Parent
"Rev. Shuttlesworth died yesterday at Princeton Baptist Medical Center in Birmingham."
Some very powerfull stuff in there.
Photos from the march.
Photos from last night's police action.
The very first Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The editorial writing in today's issue is heavily pro-protest, a noticeable change in tone for the NYDN. Even pro-everything police Denis Hammill is on point today, pointing out how police union protests have used the same tactics without mass arrests being necessary. Different rules, different fools common ground...sh*t common ground in strange places popping up all over the place. Haven't been this high on hopium since...since, err ever!
OWS, the gift that keeps on giving...and it's only just begun.
BTW all, autumn chill is coming, the occupiers are gonna need blankets, lots and lots of blankets. I'll be raiding linen closets of friends and fam to bring some downtown. Parent
But a pint or 3 o' the Guiness and a visit to OWS is a given if you're down! Parent
I don't expect ya to camp, I think they're at camper capacity actually...but ya gotta check it out. I insist:) Don't worry, I'll be your human shield should the NYSE Private Security Force try and get cute. Can't say if I'm ready to get locked up for the movement just yet (I really hate them cages!), but I'll be damned if they lay their greasy swine hooves on my pal oculus...that I'd bite the 6x8 bullet for:) Parent
That is so pathetic on at least 3 different levels.
And Chicago, the idiots at the exchange with their "We are the 1%'ers" signs in the windows.
Much respect for these people not getting violent, because when I see this non-sense I wanna bust some heads. Parent
Pepper spray is go fricken weak, It must kill the 'real' cops to have to use a little bottle instead of some good old fashion baton-skull-crackin'. Parent
In the irony of ironies I will be occupied by Wall Street this weekend (my college roommate planned an impromptu visit - will be interesting to hear her take on this - her political positions are sometimes very confused/ing).
The next weekend my mom is turning 60 and the weekend after that I'm throwing my sister a babyshower. So I won't be able to make it down before Halloween. Will keep you posted though if I do end up heading that way. Parent
Occupy PDX person said basically, hey, we saw what happened in NYC and on the Brooklyn Bridge, and we see no reason to give the police a big heads-up on our route so that they have time to set up barricades and bring in the plastic fencing and plan how to trap and arrest us.
Portland mayor Sam Adams has said the city and the police will work with the marchers to keep it peaceful. Supposedly, no arrests will be made unless things get "out of hand." That phrase is, of course, open to interpretation. So, we shall see.
I was planning to be down there today, but my arthritic and crumbling knees have taken to just giving out on me, the result being that I find myself unexpectedly crashing to the floor. This is the first time since my political awakening in the '60s that I have had to take myself out of the game. I have to say, it is killing me to have to sit here at home. Occupy Portland will be camping out in the main downtown park, so I hope to get down there at some point to show support.
I don't know how this will end, what will result from the Occupy Wall Street uprisings, but for the first time in more than 30 years I feel a spark of hope taking hold. As we used to say back in the day, "Power to the People!" Parent
The city has temporarily suspended the no camping ordinance so the Occupy PDX people can bed down without fear of being rousted and arrested. No word on how long the city will allow the camping, though.
Excellent showing, Portlanders. Keep it up. Parent
I really wanted to see them. Parent
Lot's of stuff happening yesterday, students walked out of class and the nurses union joined in. So far the only stand-off with the police happened when 50 kids tried to shut down Atlantic Ave. But they eventually moved with no arrests. The Boston police I've seen so far have been very subdued, just hanging out. Cornell West came down for a visit too. Maybe I'll take/post some pics if I go out there again tommorow. They are camped out and probably staying for a while too.
Dd you see the other day when Nobel economist, Joseph Stiglitz, addressed the crowd? He would speak a half sentence to a small group of 4 or 5 people in front of him, and they would turn around and repeat it to the several hundred behind them. The look, the uncontrollable smile on Stiglitz's face, told you all you had to know that something unique, something wonderful, is taking place there. Parent
David Dayen:
For perhaps the first time, President Barack Obama was forced to explain why there have been no prosecutions of Wall Street executives for their fraudulent actions during the run-up to the financial crisis. Asked by Jake Tapper to explain this behavior, Obama basically suggested that most of the actions on Wall Street weren't illegal but just immoral, and that his Administration worked to re-regulate the financial sector with the Dodd-Frank reform legislation. "Banks are in the business of making money, and they find loopholes," the President said. Apparently forging and fabricating documents to prove ownership of homes that are subsequently stolen from borrowers is now a loophole. Many of the practices on Wall Street "weren't necessarily against the law but they had a huge destructive impact," said the President. The work of Bill Black, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and a host of other official studies, analyses, and even court cases cut against that. Just the other day, a new whistleblower lawsuit against banks for setting illegal fees against military personnel wasn't joined by the Justice Department.
"Banks are in the business of making money, and they find loopholes," the President said. Apparently forging and fabricating documents to prove ownership of homes that are subsequently stolen from borrowers is now a loophole.
Many of the practices on Wall Street "weren't necessarily against the law but they had a huge destructive impact," said the President. The work of Bill Black, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and a host of other official studies, analyses, and even court cases cut against that. Just the other day, a new whistleblower lawsuit against banks for setting illegal fees against military personnel wasn't joined by the Justice Department.
It all makes sense now - thanks Barack!
And now, for some icing on that cake:
Obama also added this, approximately: "I expended a lot of political capital to keep the banks afloat, and I have the scars to prove it. And I still think it was the right thing to do, because otherwise our economy would have been worse off." This is the President taking ownership of TARP, which did not pass under his Presidency but which he whipped as a candidate for President in 2008. He took ownership of the extraordinary financial support given to banks as they teetered on the verge of collapse. And this is a central grievance of the protesters on Wall Street and across the country.
And I'm sure it was legal when Goldmann, again, just decided to erase an entire month from their financial records. Oh no, no fraud there.
"Then there's case of Goldman Sachs' missing month. On Apr. 13, the bank reported eye-popping profits of $1.8 billion for the first quarter. Not bad, but Goldman switched to a calendar year from a fiscal one ending Nov. 30. That meant December, and its $780 million loss, was an orphan--omitted from the results for both the full fiscal year of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009." From Business Week...two years ago.
What a phucking piece of nothing he proves himself to be over and over again. Parent
"...knowing it was junk...'
of course, they knew it was junk,
They specifically designed it to be junk.
And that's why Goldman's actions were criminal, not just immoral, odious, and rotten.
My hair erupts on fire every time I hear one of those Limbaugh butt lickers say, "hey, nobody put a gun to those applicant's head and forced them to take out a mortgage." Goldman beat their brokers bloody, admonishing them to sell, sell, sell more & more junk. And, the same to their "underwriters" (or whatever they're called) to design more and more $hitpile derivatives to hide the crap they were pushing.
You know, the public has a pretty good idea that what those banks did was bad. But, if they only knew how bad they really were they might have reacted a little stronger. You would think the media would've jumped at the chance at exposing that "breaking story," instead their line was, "mistakes were made by both sides."
Blech!! Parent
The pressure reached down to the mortgage market - lenders wanted in on that action - so they lent more and more to less and less qualified borrowers - they simply didn't care if any of them ever made a mortgage payment, because that wasn't their end game.
My daughter and her boyfriend are looking for a house to buy; they met with a lender that their real estate agent uses, and you know, they are still pushing people to borrow up to the max. I told the kids, in no uncertain terms, that they are the only ones who know what they can really afford, that they have to be able to sleep at night, to know that if something unforseen happens, it won't mean losing their house.
Because, the truth is, these lenders still don't give a crap; they will turn around and sell the mortgage, get their money out of it, and move on to the next borrower.
Really too bad there wasn't a comprehensive investigation, that people weren't held accountable, that lines were not drawn, because it's going to happen all over again - it's just a matter of time. Parent
Just because my neighbors and I can afford a loan does not mean we are not getting ripped off by the industry. Parent
and for reading the Suskind book for those of us that don't have the iron stomachs. Parent
He kept bringing up Dodd-Frank too but failed to mention to anyone that his Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has failed to implement 90% of the legislation that was passed. It should be a phucking outrage, but I feel like I rage alone. Just me and my butter knife Parent
Occupy Birmingham, Occupy Tuscaloosa up and running kid! Parent
otoh, if I had a nickel for every bullsh*t summons I ever got with a quasi apology along the lines of "if my Sgt. wasn't standing over there I'd give ya a break", I'd have at least a quarter. Parent
Jackson Parent
I just finished the sections on the auto bailout, Obama's meeting with the Gang of 13 (WS and banksters), Geithner's blase approach to the Citi situation (Sheila Bair was the "real" problem), the WH stonewalling of those in Congress intent on financial reform, and the Alan Krueger disclosure that Tim and the Treasury Boyz didn't think Obama understood the situation, or that they believed Obama to be wrong and Tim right, and were required to save him - Obama - from himself.
No wonder the WH hated this book; Obama comes across as being in so far over his head as to be drowning, and of a WH that brought new meaning to the term "disarray."
I had a feeling it was bad, but this bad? Pass me the butter knife. Parent
And, oh, how removed they all are from the lives of real people...that it took someone shouting that if they shut Chrysler down, there would be hundreds of thousands of people who would never find work again, and Robert Gibbs, of all people, to distill the consequence into a bumper sticker ("What are we going to do when a guy walks out of the plant after we've shut it down, and he's holding a sign that says, `I Guess I Wasn't Too Big To Fail.'"), to get Obama to change his mind, is the stuff of nightmares.
If you hear any screaming off in the distance, it will probably be me, when I get to the section on the health whatever "negotiations." Parent
If Obama held a position before his advisors did their back and forth arguments, and then came to an agreement, Obama stuck to his prior position. So you ended up with the bizarre situation whereby his experts with opposing views were able to come to a consensus, yet Obama rejected their advice anyway.
The look of puzzled contempt on Summer's face told you all you have to know about why so many decisions coming from the White House make no sense whatsoever, and satisfy no one. Parent
Summers did his share of manipulating, both on policy and internally, in terms of who had or didn't have the upper hand. To a significant degree, the dynamic duo of Emanuel and Summers were Obama's gatekeepers - which is not to say that the president's schedule doesn't need to be managed, it does - but I'm getting the impression that often, Obama didn't even know who wanted to see him or why.
There were -and still are - a fair number of people inside the administration who seem not to know that it is their job to carry out the president's will, not to be deciding what that will is, but to an extent, this president has been lacking in direction and will, which means there was always fear that this person or that group would get to Obama and change his mind about something those in the inner circle had already maneuvered Obama into.
It's a horror show. Parent
What he was saying is, here we have two experts on the subject, with two opposing views. Obviously, one was correct, the other not. By the end of their debate, one of the experts was able to convince the other, through logic, reason, mastery of the topic, to change his mind and agree with him.
Then, with unanimity in the room Obama shocked everyone by rejecting their decision and insisting on his predetermined view. Now, what I can't express well using a keyboard was the look & sound of exasperation Summers had when looking into camera. There was no question about the disdain he felt as if he had said, "You've got the two pre-eminent experts on a complicated subject, and they both agree on a solution, but then along comes a no-nothing schmuck holding his breath and stamping his feet to have his own way.
Summers went on to say (It may be in Susskind's book) that his staff had many, many meetings in the hallway after a staff meeting where Obama had made ridiculous claims or decisions. He said it was becoming increasingly difficult to carry out good policy when you had an erratic, and inexperienced President. And, while everyone knew about Obama's publicly stated opinion about conducting "open & strenuous debate," Summers looked into the camera and said, "but, he is the President, and he never let anyone forget it."
I know those guys sucked, Anne, but you have to have at least a little bit of sympathy for them as the President made their lives miserable. Parent
If you want an even better one, see if you can get Rose from last night, Wed. 10/5.
His guest was Jeffrey Sachs.
If you don't know who Sachs is just Google his name and be prepared to see what a progressive genius looks like. ' A truly wonderful person. An economics professor from Colombia, he specializes in advising impoverished countries and has been credited with having performed nothing short of miracles in transforming desperate countries back to health and prosperity.
And, oh yeah, he was sucked in like many of us by Obama, and now speaks with a very loud voice in pointing out how easy our solutions are, and how paralyzed Obama is in doing them.
Check it out; there are good people out there. Parent
I probably won't read this book because I'll be like Ann asking something to please pass the d*mn butter knife. Parent
Good news. Now I can finally -- after many years -- un-Mute the sound during the opening of the broadcast.
Never understood how anyone could like a rather unmemorable and unstirring song that's being shouted rather than song by some overweight, full-of-hisself redneck wearing shades.
Looks like it's on to the senate race in TN for this RW idiot, something in the footsteps of a far saner country singer of yesteryear, Tex Ritter, who also ran for the senate from that state in 1970 (unsuccessfully). Let's hope it turns out even worse for Williams.
No question though, they need to hire a professional songwriter to kick-start things with something musically more robust. Parent
Think of the children if they capped profits!
And, just so you know, it isn't just that the bank is allowed to make a profit, it's that he has an inherent responsibility to get a return for "his" shareholders. And it's so much harder to do that these days, you know.
So, between the new debit card charge and the 400,000 employees they plan to let go, the shareholders and the board will be thrilled and he will no doubt be handsomely rewarded at the appropriate time.
Remind me again - what is it that OWS is all about? Parent
Below is the text, I haven't found the clip through the backdoor means yet (You Tube is blocked in China, as is Facebook, but there are ways around that.) Someone march for me, okay, and let the 1% have it for me!
Jackson
Citizens of the United States: This is a message from Anonymous.
This is a message to the 99%.
This is a message to what is becoming the American Autumn.
This is a message to the whispers of the revolution beginning to stir in every major American city and in the heart of every afflicted member of the youth.
It is becoming obvious that due to certain technical difficulties the revolution will not be televised. It will not be broadcasted.
This is quite all right, media, you serpents of the elite for we will go under you. We will go around you. We will go over you and we will go beyond you. You no longer control the floodgates.
The era of the internet has arrived and it will consume you.
This movement will be downloaded. It will be streamed. It will be circulated and it will spread like a wildfire, without direction, unpredictable, vast and devastating.
Look around you, America. The leaves are beginning to sour. Cracks are appearing in them. They are falling from the branches, dead and rotting.
So are our politicians.
So are our banks.
So is our media and so is our society.
This country has never seen a movement from our generation. They have never seen a movement from the children of the internet.
They haven't the slightest clue what we are capable of, we masters of information, we conductors of thought.
The tipping point has arrived.
We have reached critical mass.
This is the point of no return.
Carry this movement through the winter.
Carry this movement through the bitter cold and into spring.
Shake off your morning dew, youth, for you are many, they are few.
Washington:
We have no bombs.
We have no weapons.
We have no threats.
But behold the power of the quill and ink.
Members of the military:
You took an oath to defend this country from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Walk with us. Among us as one of us.
Unions:
You have a score to settle.
Artists:
Move the movement. Stoke the flames.
We are all the 99%.
We are all Anonymous.
We are all legion.
We will never forget.
We will not forgive.
Expect us.
Meaning, you can have lousy actors, but if the story is great, the play is great regardless. And, conversely, if an actor is great, the actor is great (even if the story sucks)
Anyway, thanks, I'll check it out. Parent
I had kefir yesterday for breakfast, and today as well. I must remember to order the sweetened version, because the plain kefir is too strong for me, and the taste cannot be ameliorated by simply adding sugar. The sweetened version is quite pleasant, and seems to have a bit of rice in it as well.
I went shopping again yesterday. This trip was also to the Khan Shatyr; I suspect this is because new faculty are always taken there, and there was a Japanese math professor with us. I bought a cheap new razor at "Shulpak", the electronics store. This place has more employees than any store I have ever entered---it seems that there is at least one employee per section of an aisle. Actually purchasing something requires the services of at least 3 employees. The air here is quite dry, and I wanted to buy a humidifier for my bedroom. The lowest priced option was a fancy digital machine which cost 36,000 tenge, or about $250. I can stand dry sinuses, for that price.
Lunch yesterday was interesting. I was with my chair, my dean, the dean of students and a couple other professors. A lot was said about politics and employment in the US. I just want to mention one interesting thread. Many of these people have industry experience, and were complaining of how hard it is to fire incompetent people, even in industry, and even in right-to-work states. One guy told of the following incident at Bristol-Meyer. A research Ph.D decides to tidy up the lab in another area (not hers). She throws about 100 petri dishes which were lying out. Point 1: these were special dishes, made with gold, and cost $50,000 each. Point 2: She destroyed 6 months of research of another team. She was NOT fired. My thinking is that the concerns these people have about industrial and academic hiring and firing are really pretty far from the experiences of the vast majority of working Americans, yet obviously can have some legitimacy for certain sectors. I didn't think of this at the time, but I should have asked about, say, Japanese and German industrial workers, their contracts and unions, etc.
Lots more going on. The recital last night was jazz and improv, and fun, but I don't feel that I can say anything perceptive about the music. I was mildly entertained, and certainly enjoyed the chance to experience my first Astana night life. Speaking of which, I just learned that a black leather jacket is de rigeur for night life. I will look into that, but probably won't buy until my first paycheck, which will be on Nov. 10.
One last tidbit: Astana has the nickname of "mini-Dubai", which I would say is quite apropos. The new Japanese professor was just teaching in Dubai, by the way, and is going to ship his car to Astana. This may cost $15,000, because the direct route through Iran is not possible. Ouch.. must be a nice car!.
I'd splurge on the humidifier, but then again I get so dried out my skull practically starts to crack.
And I have to say, the thought of a "mini-Dubai" is unsettling, only because the real one is so truly friggin' awful as it is.
Stay warm and don't you dare buy that black leather jacket (humidifier money!). Break the mold. ;-)
Good luck with the chess club, and keep up with the updates. Parent
Are all the faculty members at your school foreigners? Is this a major Kazakhstan college? And so, are your students primarily Kazakhs (is that correct?) Parent
I'm glad that things are looking positive for you there and I look forward to your updates.
I don't know if it is feasible time wise or if Jeralyn would have an interest, but it would be nice IMO if you could write occasional diaries about your experience. Parent
Somewhere I heard people shout, tonight we are all Detroiters.
Go Tigers - beat the Rangers! Parent
You can give free money to the banks, or you could give free money to everyone else assuming some of that money would be deposited in banks and/or used to pay down debt owed to those banks. You could also, say, just add $10,000 to all the bank accounts, giving the banks more reserves and many people more cash. The point is, if you're handing out free money to save the banks you can do it in a way that saves the rest of us, too.
The point is, if you're handing out free money to save the banks you can do it in a way that saves the rest of us, too.
I guess I'll settle for a check payable to cash:) Parent
Me, I haven't cared much about this matchup in recent times since both states went full-bore Redneck for Republicans. Back in the day though, when OK could be repped by decent mod-lib Dem senators like Fred Harris and TX by mod-lib Dem senator Ralph Yarborough and neither state was quite as politically extremist to the Right as they are today, I didn't mind spending a few hours watching them and throwing my support behind one team (usually OK) or the other.
But that's how I evaluate these distant regional rivalies outside my bailiwick -- the political animal in me has never developed a solid wall between politics and sports and I doubt I'll ever change. Parent
I did some research and turns out it's been legal in the US since 2007. My local liquor store carries about 10 brands, with maybe 7 being authentic (made w/ grand wormwood).
It packs a punch, around 140 proof and tastes like black liquorish. Mostly you get drunk, but there something behind it, real light, beyond the alcohol, real mellow.
There is even a distillery in Philadelphia that makes what others consider a pretty respectable absinthe. See Here
I can not believe I didn't know this. Just thought I would pass it along.
The stuff at your liquor store has it, but you have too look because some brands simply flavor grain alcohol/vodka. If it has Grand Wormwood it has thurjone.
They have tested thurjone and it doesn't have psychoactive properties, they think bootleggers were mixing methanol alcohol with ethanol alcohol, and as one would image, people did some really dumb stuff after drinking wood alcohol.
Plus the 'refer madness' propaganda campaign wine makers waged on absinthe had the same effect. People thinking you will go mad from it or cut off your ear, or whatever other non-sense they use to scared us all straight. Parent
In olden absinthe days, absinthe usually contained a great deal of thujone, we don't really know what it can do. We didn't have ongoing studies back then. We do know that it caused some people to have seizures though. Who knows what it did to everyone else? Parent
A curious phenomenon known as the "doll-house" effect is one of the more distinctive wormwood effects. Users describe perceiving objects as idealized representations of themselves or as simplified copies of the real objects, as though they belonged in a doll house. This effect is often experienced along with wormwood's other common effects. Objects may be perceived with a striking clarity of definition and color, however, wormwood only serves to enhance perception and has no hallucinogenic properties.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-main-wormwood-effects.htm Parent
Amid complaints that nearly half of tax filers in the U.S. won't pay federal income taxes this year, this has been lost: Those making $75,000-$100,000 a year are the fastest-growing share of people who don't pay federal income taxes. Not working poor people -- but those who are firmly middle class. They still make up less than 1% of the total number of income tax filers who pay no tax at all, but their overall number has exploded, from fewer than 5,000 not paying taxes in 1996 to nearly 500,000 in 2009, the most recent year of available data. The lowest-income Americans -- those who make less than $25,000 a year -- account for the largest number of those not paying any federal income tax: 76% as of 2009. But that share has been decreasing for years. Meanwhile, the percentage of nontaxable returns has been growing for people with higher incomes. As of 2009, more than 20,000 filers making more than $200,000 a year -- 1,470 of whom had adjusted gross income of more than $1 million -- owed no income tax, a Free Press analysis showed.
Not working poor people -- but those who are firmly middle class.
They still make up less than 1% of the total number of income tax filers who pay no tax at all, but their overall number has exploded, from fewer than 5,000 not paying taxes in 1996 to nearly 500,000 in 2009, the most recent year of available data.
The lowest-income Americans -- those who make less than $25,000 a year -- account for the largest number of those not paying any federal income tax: 76% as of 2009. But that share has been decreasing for years. Meanwhile, the percentage of nontaxable returns has been growing for people with higher incomes. As of 2009, more than 20,000 filers making more than $200,000 a year -- 1,470 of whom had adjusted gross income of more than $1 million -- owed no income tax, a Free Press analysis showed.
"Mathematically, you're not going to pay taxes" if you have a modest income and qualify for a lot of those breaks, Stretch said.
This sounds like the tactic of putting a billionare in a room with 20 working stiffs to distort the "average income" calculation.
And then they have the call to headline it with Soaring? as in
Soaring number of middle class are exempt from federal income taxes
Nope, not buying it. Parent
"Several union leaders complained that their own protests over the past two years had received little attention, though they had put far more people on the streets than Occupy Wall Street has. A labor rally in Washington last October drew more than 100,000 people, with little news media coverage. Behind the scenes in recent days, union leaders have debated how to respond to Occupy Wall Street. In internal discussions, some voiced worries that if labor were perceived as trying to co-opt the movement, it might alienate the protesters and touch off a backlash.
Others said they were wary of being embarrassed by the far-left activists in the group who have repeatedly denounced the United States government."
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I think OWS is a net positive, but even the hard left establishment is struggling to get their heads around it.
Maybe that is a good thing, but at the end of the day, I hope that the unions are on board 100%. We need them. That will require some level of focusing of the goals.
If only... Parent
Go read Matt Stoller at naked capitalism; he has an excellent post up there that should enlighten you as to what OWS is all about.
Here's one excellent paragraph for you:
One of the most constant complaints one hears in DC about #OccupyWallStreet is that the group has no demands. Its message isn't tight. It has no leaders. It has no policy agenda. Just what does "it" want, anyway? On the other side of the aisle, one hears a sort of sneering "get a job" line, an angry reaction to a phenomenon no one in power really understands. The gnashing of teeth veers quickly from condescension to irritation and back. Many liberal groups want to "help" by offering a more mainstream version, by explaining it to the press, by cheering how great the occupation is while carefully ensuring that wiser and more experienced hands eventually take over. These impulses are guiding by the received assumptions about how power works in modern America. Power must flow through narrow media channels, it must be packaged and financed by corporations, unions, or foundations, it must be turned into revenue flows that can then be securitized. It must scale so leaders can channel it efficiently into the preset creek bed of modern capitalism. True public spaces like this one are complete mysteries to these people; left, right, center in America are used to shopping mall politics.
I don't expect you to get it. Parent
because you know if they (OWS, women, whatever) would just calm down and tell us what they want, well then we (men, politicos, whatever) could either solve their little problems for them or show them why what they want just isn't possible or practical.
But NOOOOOOO, they have to go being all independent and, well, emotional, and they just flat refuse to understand how things are done. How can we (men, politicos, whatever) fix this if they won't tell us what they want? Parent
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something , when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
Even union leadership and other establishment institutions on the "left" are subject to becoming beholden to the current way...the current uber-corrupt cronified way. Parent
We need small business owners down with this thang too...the hoops guys like you gotta jump through without the ability to write your own rules and regs, or just ignore them at will...thats gotta suck.
Sh*t the hoops ya gotta jump through to own a hot dog cart for gods sake. Parent
Clarity is not a vice.
That said, it's only my opinion, and I am happy to march with them and join the cacophony of voices. Parent
But that's only my opinion. :) And while I have not [yet] marched with them, I too will join the cacophony of voices.
The kids are alright. They're doing fine. We haven't done such a hot job, let's give them the room to find their way and support them along the way. Parent
How to achieve that goal?
Soak the rich? Not with this government, pointless excercise.
Vote a better government? Another tough nut. And this is a globalized problem now, ya need quality government in all the world and unprecedented cooperation.
Overthrow the government? That would get so ugly, and until we evolve a little the next won't be any better.
This is a challenge of unprecedented proportions, right now all that needs to be done is putting the ruling class on notice that the jig is up.
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These kids (and, yes I'll continue to call them kids, though I realize its not just kids) are so much smarter, so much further along, and so wonderfully in-tune, that I wish I held a "mute" button in my hand to block out the, oh so irritating noise, coming from so many places.
If you go there and say, "I want to donate $1000 to your cause," they actually have a committee to decide if they'll accept it. Because, in the end, what they want is you, and your good heart. The $1000? "we'll check it out."
Did you hear about the nurses who took time off, or on their lunchtimes, came and offered their services? So, and this is becoming customary, they held a discussion. Of course nurses would be welcome to come and treat those who needed medical services. (and here is what I mean be breaking out laughing) But, the value added which evolved from the discussions was the decision to set up training sessions where the nurses would teach everyone, or anyone, first aid, cpr, and things like that.
There are so many things I feel like saying, then I stop and ponder a minute, nah, silence, a smile, and observing a thing of beauty so trumps anything I've got to say, and the decision is done. Parent
Every night at 10pm the camp moves all tents onto the sidewalk to comply with local laws. Earlier this week around move time, a guy and his girlfriend showed up and asked what they could do to help. What are you good at? asked Media Lisa (who volunteers her webcasting, media and producing skills and has been involved in planning and coordination since September 24). The guy responded Do you need trash hauled? I could do that! Media Lisa pressed further: Yes, but what would you like to do? What can you do? The guy replied: I'm an actor. He then helped lug tents, signs and equipment from the lawn to sidewalk. As the couple were leaving, they stopped by the finance department's table where he wrote a check for $5,000. Until then, no one knew the helpful guy was Lucas Neff from the Emmy-nominated series Raising Hope. link
What are you good at?
asked Media Lisa (who volunteers her webcasting, media and producing skills and has been involved in planning and coordination since September 24). The guy responded
Do you need trash hauled? I could do that!
Media Lisa pressed further:
Yes, but what would you like to do? What can you do?
The guy replied:
I'm an actor.
He then helped lug tents, signs and equipment from the lawn to sidewalk. As the couple were leaving, they stopped by the finance department's table where he wrote a check for $5,000. Until then, no one knew the helpful guy was Lucas Neff from the Emmy-nominated series Raising Hope. link
Stepping completely outside the bounds of electoral politics was unexpected and could only have been done by the young. That the growing power and force is subtle and cannot be subdued by scorn and jackboots must also be alarming. So naturally more scorn and concern [trolling] is necessary.
Just watching him squirm is rather like a barometer or microcosm. From dismissive to patronizing to sneering to now trying to position himself as a logical leader.
As if. LOL Parent