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Connecticut Rabbi: Tebow Success Could Lead To Persecution of Non-Christians

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Posted on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:07:10 PM EST
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If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, against all odds, it will buoy his faithful, and emboldened faithful can do insane things, like burning mosques, bashing gays and indiscriminately banishing immigrants. While America has become more inclusive since Jerry Falwell’s first political forays, a Tebow triumph could set those efforts back considerably.

The rabbi, Josh Hammerman of Temple Beth El in Stamford, appears to claim to be a progressive. I claim he is an idiot.

Speaking for me only

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    Connecticut Rabbi: Tebow Success Could Lead To Persecution of Non-Christians | 101 comments (101 topical)
    Okay, this is over the top (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:22:49 PM EST
    The good rabbi needs to sit down and take a few deep breaths.

    Wonder if the "good" rabbi is (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:35:26 PM EST
    tuned into evangelical mvt. in general.  Also, has Tebow publicly stated anything re Israel?

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    Who knows? (5.00 / 5) (#8)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:11:22 PM EST
    And, really, who cares?  This whole Tebow thing is starting to get on my one remaining nerve.  Let the guy play football- whether he's really, really good or not will eventually make itself known.  As for his religious beliefs- I sincerely and profoundly don't care if he is Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew, Hindu, Wiccan, Bahá'í, Confucian, Druze, Rastafarian, Shinto, worships the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or whatever.  People need to get beyond this.  It's getting stupid.

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    Your last nerve? (5.00 / 0) (#14)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:31:41 PM EST
    Try living here and putting up with crap like this 24/7/365.  

    OMG--the horse, why its Tebowing!!11!  Grrrrr.

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    I sure hope God gives you guys (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:37:09 PM EST
    a break soon.  Can't any of the real talent on the offensive line come up with some sort of notable gesture they make during play?

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    Where you here... (none / 0) (#111)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 12:59:59 PM EST
    ...for the early Elway days?  When the press used to camp out outside his house to see what kind of candy the Elway's were giving out?  It's like that--only magnified by about a million.  

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    Secretariat, (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 04:28:38 PM EST
    who was a truly great horse, is no doubt rolling over in his grave, contemplating what one of his descendants is reduced to.  I feel for you, MileHi.  I really do.  If it's getting on my last nerve, I can't imagine what it must be doing to those of you who live in Colorado.  You have my sympathies, my brother.  Namaste.  ;-)

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    Ah... Secretariat... (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by sj on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:30:17 PM EST
    That is all.

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    never worshipped a singer, actor, (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:52:41 PM EST
    or sports star.....

    And, forget even watching Secretariet run, just watching him walk around the paddock area.....

    if you didn't get goose bumps, and instinctively know you were witnessing greatness, you weren't human.

    Amazing how a "dumb" animal can do that to us "advanced" humans. lol

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    Did you see (5.00 / 0) (#45)
    by sj on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:18:04 PM EST
    Secretariat in person? ... or would that be "in horse"?

    Anyway, you saw him?

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    I did (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:30:58 PM EST
    at Aqueduct, in '72, in the stables/paddock

    didn't see him run. A friend of mine was an apprentice jockey, and his father was an owner/trainor (not of Secretariat) They were teaching me how to place bets for them (and myself.) But, that's a whole 'nuther story.

    Anyway, "pops" wanted to show me a young Colt that was going to set the world on fire....Secretariat.

    I saw him, and, Boy, was he right!

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    I am filled with envy right now (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by sj on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:39:39 PM EST


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    I wish I could provide some solace (5.00 / 2) (#100)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 07:37:15 AM EST
    but I'd be lying.

    It was a moving, life long, profound experience.

    I'm sure the feeling was something like an accomplished violinist getting the opportunity to hold a Stradivarius.  

    But, since then, I've satisfied my urge for greatness, in a slightly different direction. My Dobermans are the love of my life, and, as the years passed, this vice has practically bankrupted me. I won't go the normal dog-lover clap trap here, but owning animals like the ones I've got, bred through many, many generations, as gentle and loving as they are ferocious, keep me as close to that day at Aqueduct as one could hope for.

    p.s. The two, two year old sisters, "Storm & Sasha" say hello:)  


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    And my Sasha (none / 0) (#109)
    by sj on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 12:52:35 PM EST
    replies in kind :)

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    Really? (none / 0) (#112)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 02:24:11 PM EST
    You have a little czarina of your very own?

    Please, spill your guts

    (was that too vulgar?)

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    My little czarina (none / 0) (#114)
    by sj on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 07:24:06 PM EST
    (and that's a perfect description) is not Doberman (sorry if that disappoints), but a black Chow-Chow.  She appears to be purebred but I have no papers for her because I rescued her from the street.  Took me almost a month to catch her and luck played a big part in that.  

    Incredibly, no one had reported her as lost.  It's especially incredible in that she was well trained and well socialized.  She came crate trained and house broken.  And she got on well with the dog I already had.  Of course, my beautiful boy was a superior dog (really!) and he adored her, so he made it easy to integrate.  As gentle and loving as she is ferocious -- your description is perfect.  

    The only problem I have with her is probably a holdover from her life on the streets.  If she sees a rat she goes instantly into hunter mode and is very difficult to distract.  She also thinks they're the best squeaky toys ever.  And she can be very playful with her squeaky toys.

    Oh, and also it takes two hours to give her a bath.

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    Does one also have to drop a treat (5.00 / 3) (#49)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:24:23 PM EST
    in the dirt to get this Tebow guy to pretend that he is praying?

    I am a great admirer of great horses.  I feel your pain.

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    Lol, that's nasty! I gave you a 5. (none / 0) (#106)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 10:24:27 AM EST


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    Minorities (none / 0) (#79)
    by koshembos on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:22:02 PM EST
    have the right to be apprehensive. Christians have a certain history with Muslims and Jews. Now, the rabbi could have been more reserved, but screaming is legal and common.

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    Hmmm. Christians didn't fare too well (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:56:38 PM EST
    under the Ottoman Empire.  

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    Tebow Derangement Syndrome (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:37:54 PM EST


    Perfect. Yes indeed, it officially warrants that (5.00 / 0) (#29)
    by ruffian on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 04:22:34 PM EST
    name now.

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    As If God plans on (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:58:21 PM EST
    letting Tebow win the Superbowl.  Maybe, if there wasn't such a thing as a Tebow thong but there is.  And then there was the underwear photos.  Nope, Tim Tebow has sinned too much for God to go out on a limb for him like that and pull Superbowl strings :)

    Which just goes to show (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:07:09 PM EST
    crazy does indeed cover all religions.

    Crazy doesn't even begin to explain it, (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:15:36 PM EST
    his bio says he's a Red Sox fan....

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    hey now! (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CST on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:16:38 PM EST


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    Ahh (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:17:55 PM EST
    the truth comes out. The good Rabbi is probably a Patriots fan.

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    that alone (none / 0) (#18)
    by cpinva on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:44:33 PM EST
    his bio says he's a Red Sox fan....

    is sufficient to get him cast into purgatory. on the other hand................

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    I sincerely and (none / 0) (#9)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:12:34 PM EST
    profoundly agree with you, CoralGables.

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    I for one (5.00 / 0) (#7)
    by CST on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:08:31 PM EST
    am not afraid of Tim Tebow and the resulting Godpocalypse.

    It gets even more ridiculous... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Addison on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:20:11 PM EST
    Here's the full text of Hammerman's column, which appears to have been removed from The Jewish Week's web site.

    Just want to point out, What Armando blockquoted wasn't just a one-off statement, or some facetious joke taken out of context. It was the whole point of the column. Hammerman began his column with:

    I've got a Tim Tebow problem. I want to root for the guy, but I'm afraid of what will happen if the hulky Denver Bronco quarterback continues to pull off what is fast becoming the Greatest Gridiron Story Ever Told.

    He fears that fellow Jews may be seduced by Tebow's story, should he win the Super Bowl:

    His story is so improbable that if he were to win it all, a part of me would be wondering whether there is a Purpose behind it, just as I saw a divine hand in the equally unbelievable Red Sox victory of 2004. And it makes me wonder whether other Jews, the ones who don't happen to have advanced degrees in religion and a few decades of rabbinic experience, might be even more seduced by this unfolding drama.

    He even managed to imply that part of the narrative in the upcoming Broncos-Patriots game is that the Patriots' owner is Jewish, and was being forced into the role of Pilate!

    While the Patriots are adored by their fans (myself included), to many nationwide they are regarded as the Sons of Darkness, with their perfectly coiffed Hollywood quarterback and their brilliant - one might say diabolical - hoodie-clad coach. And, oh yes, the most identifiably Jewish owner in sports. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft are all upstanding citizens, moral exemplars in their home communities, but in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate.

    Which could be taken as a joke if the rest of the column was grounded in some sort of reasonable perspective. Oh, and one more thing, he is apparently somewhat ignorant about football as he makes the statement:

    Now tiny Tim has grown and is on track to possibly appear in this season's Super Bowl - on the field - and that is what scares me.

    Winning the AFC West this year hardly counts as "on track to possibly appear in this season's Super Bowl". If this were a different sport, the entire AFC West would be relegated...

    I will let the rest of you in on a secret ... (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Peter G on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:05:55 PM EST
    We Jews get together and pay a rabbi extra to make really stupid remarks like this every once in a while, just to undercut the aspect of antisemitism that claims all Jews are smart.

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    Please do not offer a serious response (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by Peter G on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:43:48 PM EST
    to a tongue-in-cheek post.  It upsets the rhythm of the universe.

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    Nothing is (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:53:37 PM EST
    going to happen but I'm not surprised at this Rabbi's thinking in a way. When Tebow winning becomes a reflection of his religious beliefs to some people rather than his skills as a football player it could become a problem. The thing that I think is interesting is if people think Tebow is winning because of his religiosity, what are they going to say when he loses? Or what if a tragedy befalls him? Is it now because God has decided to hate Tebow? It would have to be if you buy into that line of thinking.

    Oh, no problem, God works in mysterious ways. (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:23:26 PM EST
    The thing that I think is interesting is if people think Tebow is winning because of his religiosity, what are they going to say when he loses? Or what if a tragedy befalls him? Is it now because God has decided to hate Tebow?


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    Is God the rest of the offensive line though? (none / 0) (#56)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:00:15 PM EST
    Is this all really about Tebow and who empowers him?  Is a football team that has been winning by very small margins really managing to be This Fabulous only because of its quarterback?  I have thoughts.  I have questions :)

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    The answer is NO (none / 0) (#68)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:53:04 PM EST
    and if you asked Timmeh he would say the same thing, it is NOT HIM, it is the TEAM.

    Hope that answered at least one of your questions.

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    I've only ever read one interview (5.00 / 2) (#101)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 07:53:49 AM EST
    with Tebow, but when he mentioned one of the backs he said he liked the way the guy lived his life.  I thought that statement and the way it was said and what it implied was so insulting in many ways.  I've obviously been shaken down one too many times by the saving Evangelicals though.  They are nothing but social antiscience bullies shrouded in scripture as far as I'm concerned.  They are the American Taliban.

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    If God Wanted Tebow to Win the Superbowl... (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 04:10:16 PM EST
    ...Denver would not have drafted him.

    Would it be blasphemous of me to say, (5.00 / 0) (#59)
    by Anne on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:17:32 PM EST
    oh, dear Lord...?

    Tebow, however his season ends up, and whether or if he continues to win, is just this season's fad athlete, and he will be replaced eventually.

    I find it unlikely that the Tebow Effect will be one that sees people abandoning their non-Christian faiths because Tebow has made it cool to be Christian.  Or that Christians will be emboldened to rid the world of the heathens and non-Christians who sully the world that Tim Tebow lives in.

    I don't know why I am called to pepper my comments with religious references, but Jesus H. Christ, can't we just let these men play football, savor the wins, vent about the losses, and stop trying to make them into symbols or icons or - any day now, I'm sure - the second coming of Christ Himself?

    If I didn't know better, I'd think the rabbi had escaped from Seinfeld in much the same way that Father Guido Sarducci escaped from Saturday Night Live; that's the stuff of laughter, which I suggest we all do instead of actually taking this nonsense seriously.

    Life's too short, you know?
     

    But, but but, see this: (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 02:08:45 PM EST
    Tebowing

    I claim he is an idiot. (none / 0) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:34:58 PM EST
    So as BTD

    May I add.....

    What an understatement.

    gesh (none / 0) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:35:51 PM EST
    So says BTD...

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    You? (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:33:28 PM EST
    calling ANYONE an idiot?

    LOL!!

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    Nice personal snark (none / 0) (#102)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 09:01:39 AM EST
    there NY.

    For someone who admits they know "nil" about science your comment just makes me grin.

    See you on the flip side.

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    hmmm (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 09:19:08 AM EST
    didn't realize calling someone an idiot required scientific knowlege.

    quoting that great scientist, JimakaPPj, "the things I learn here."

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    Nope, it requires no knowledge (none / 0) (#104)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 09:25:59 AM EST
    What it requires is a mean spirited nasty person who gets off on making a nasty attack because they can't debate.

    Congrats on showing us what you are.

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    am I missing something here? (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 09:38:40 AM EST
    Who was the "mean spirited nasty person who gets off on making a nasty attack," such as calling a Rabbi an idiot, and an understatement, at that?

    But, I got the best idea yet; let's just get off that subject, and find something else to "debate" about. O.K?

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    Says BTD: " I claim he is an idiot." (none / 0) (#19)
    by christinep on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:46:32 PM EST
    Says me <to that>: "Amen."

    i think someone should check (none / 0) (#20)
    by cpinva on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:52:10 PM EST
    the rabbi's pipe, i don't think that's cherry tobacco in that bowl.

    Tom Brady will break the streak (none / 0) (#21)
    by MKS on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:52:53 PM EST
    Denver even with Von Miller will not be able to hold back one of the two best QBs to ever play the game.

    And, the other QB is not Tebow but Peyton Manning.  Peyton is No. 1 all time best, and Brady No. 2....close call which is No 1.  But both are far, far better than anyone else....

    you forgot to interject, "IMO" (none / 0) (#33)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:02:02 PM EST
    regarding #1 Manning, of all time!

    "one" of the top 10, o.k.

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    True, but one wold be hard pressed (none / 0) (#53)
    by MKS on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:47:16 PM EST
    to come up with someone better overall.

    With Peyton, the colts are always at least on the verge of contention; without him, they are one of the worst teams evah.

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    My respect for the greats (none / 0) (#96)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:37:20 PM EST
    is second to none.

    When you're talking about the top 10 in any sport, I just don't see how you can claim any ONE is the BEST.

    The difference between all pro's is imperceptible, among the top 10, practically invisible.

    Of course, that's just my opinion.

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    "Through the years (none / 0) (#66)
    by the capstan on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:44:34 PM EST
    with the Volunteers!"  Them were the days (not my days, which were the early 50's, when it was still pretty exciting to be in the student section.)

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    Is there anyone (none / 0) (#23)
    by lilburro on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 03:56:55 PM EST
    who seriously thinks the Broncos have a shot at the Super Bowl?  I'm having a hard time understanding the ruckus.  Teams go on runs.  Perhaps you all remember the undefeated Buffalo Bills of this year?

    Seriously. An 8-5 record? That's awful (5.00 / 0) (#32)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:01:29 PM EST
    and hardly SuperBowl level.  

    I had to look that up, as I don't know a bit about Tebow except that he surfaces constantly at TL and seems to be an obsession for BTD.  Now that I see that season record, well, really now.

    Of course, I root for a team that remains undefeated, so I may have higher standards.

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    shhhhh (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:21:55 PM EST
    or you may be the next idiot!

    If we can tag a Rabbi an idiot (not his views, or his opinions) but him, imagine what a lowly poster can be tagged?

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    Offended on behalf on the rabbi are you? (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:30:56 PM EST


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    Offended? Nah (none / 0) (#44)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:08:47 PM EST
    I been called an idiot here more than a few times, so how bad can it be? I'm still here.

    Since motive is everything, and I figure the accuser's heart is in the right place,...... not offensive at all.

    in perspective, it was pretty funny.

    (although, calling myself a Jew, while technically a non-Jew, I would have preferred "nuts" to "idiot." but, that's just me.)


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    Idiot is the right word (none / 0) (#46)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:18:49 PM EST
    It often is.

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    I have NEVER (none / 0) (#98)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:40:01 PM EST
    known you to be wrong.

    lol


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    Not so awful (none / 0) (#34)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:19:11 PM EST
    He's only started 8 games and is 7-1. As a quarterback that gives him the second best record during that stretch, trailing only your favorite cheesehead.

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    Ah. Well, when he has gone 18-0 (5.00 / 0) (#48)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:21:33 PM EST
    as has my cheesehead, I will count on BTD to let me know that this Tebow is worth my time.  

    As that would not be until 2013 or so, I will remain blissfully oblivious to whatever this obsession is about until then.  

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    Towand, I have to say, (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:33:55 PM EST
    wear your cheese head gear proudly.  The Packers have been truly awesome!

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    Just remember (none / 0) (#54)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:51:08 PM EST
    if you don't go 19-0 for the season at this point, you kind of disappear into history as a team that almost did it. (ask Mr Brady)

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    Oh, yes, every game is a nailbiter (none / 0) (#60)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:58:08 PM EST
    and there have been a few worrisome weeks.  The streak will end, of course, but the Packers never will disappear into history, central as they long have been and will be to the ethos of American football culture, for almost a century now.

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    Also too (none / 0) (#35)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:21:20 PM EST
    I'm the only person in the country interested in the Tebow story tight?

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    Nando!! (5.00 / 0) (#58)
    by shoephone on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:04:21 PM EST
    He was living proof that the American Leagues's DH rule is outmoded, unfair, and just plain dumb. Some pitchers can hit.

    Nando!!

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    Shoephone, I totally agree (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:06:13 PM EST
    The AL DH rule is an abomination unto the Lord, as far as I'm concerned.  
    PS  Of course, I'm also a life-long National League fan.         ;-)

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    To quote Crash Davis (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:21:51 PM EST
    "I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter."

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    I'm sorry, but in this thread you must (5.00 / 0) (#89)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:58:28 PM EST
    include a reference to organized religion, preferably scripture.  

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    Heck No! (none / 0) (#85)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:50:23 PM EST


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    Sam obviously went off the deep end (none / 0) (#51)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:32:03 PM EST
    and tried to make a deal with the devil after losing to the Tebow led Broncos.

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    Yes, and with my Chicago friends (none / 0) (#55)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:55:29 PM EST
    I have to pretend that this is such a sad, sad thing in da land of da beloved Bears, dere.  

    On game days, I just find other Packers fans -- there are quite a few of us, actually, if we have to find each other quietly in a sort of green-and-gold underground -- or watch alone, which also is wise when I must rise to do my happy dance.

    I suppose that I must prepare to head to the home of Sconnies for the playoffs this year, if the Bears make it that far again.  I was in Chicago then, and it was, well, unbearable all weekend.

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    I've never been a Seahawks fan, and their (none / 0) (#73)
    by caseyOR on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:06:36 PM EST
    hiring of Pete Carroll pretty much guaranteed I will not be changing my mind about them in the foreseeable future.

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    A Packer flag flying in Chitown? (none / 0) (#82)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:43:39 PM EST
    That's brave to the point of foolhardy.

    If we head to a Packer bar, I wear a navy-colored coat over my green and gold.  Chicago drunks can be mean drunks.  Actually, Bears fans can be mean when sober.  I think that we once saw a sober one, anyway.

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    Sam Hurd is the least of the Bears' (none / 0) (#71)
    by caseyOR on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:04:50 PM EST
    problems this year. Injuries to Cutler and Forte rank higher on the problems list, as does the Bears' habit of bonehead moves (yeah, Marion, I'm taking to you.).

    This was a pretty bad break for Sam, though. If he's innocent I hope this gets resolved quickly, and he gets his career back on track. If he's guilty, well, I hope he gets whatever treatment he needs and does not spend the rest of his life behind bars.

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    BTD and Tebow (none / 0) (#72)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:06:17 PM EST
    and me, too.... are Fla. Gators, we went through some of the most glorious years they ever had together and I know for myself, I just want to see the guy do well, so I cheer for him.

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    ahem (none / 0) (#81)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:37:31 PM EST
    a proud Gator graduate here.

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    I dunno why, (none / 0) (#88)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:57:09 PM EST
    but I have always had more respect for graduates of Uof F than FSU, maybe its because FSU used to be known to be the only football team in the country to have a sanitary napkin machine in the dressing room (no lie).

    I also know that the Gators require a higher GPA than FSU does to be a member of the team.

    I salute you. I was raised in a tiny town exactly half way between Gainesville and Tallahassee and each team would spend the nite there before their yearly romp. The Gators behaved much better than the Seminoles.

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    Perry? (none / 0) (#91)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:04:13 PM EST


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    Now Donald (none / 0) (#84)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:47:01 PM EST
    there is no team in the NCAA that has a guaranteed bowl appearance for the taking each year like Hawaii does.

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    As I have admitted earlier (none / 0) (#25)
    by christinep on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 04:07:08 PM EST
    ...call me a Tebow fan...for the enlivened sense the Broncos have with him, for the fun game endings (albeit no fingernails here), etc. But, I haven't had that much kool-aid to contemplate anything other than another win or so.

    "Voted off the Island," hula hoops, pet rocks, the latest screen or singing "idol," and just waiting for X in whatever sport to beat a previous record in hits, runs, timing or number. A common fun or divertimento or theme that overtakes the country from time to time. Why? Because we want a respite, a break, something different, and all that???

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    Well just because (none / 0) (#42)
    by lilburro on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:42:03 PM EST
    anything can happen doesn't mean I'm going to expect anything to happen.

    I mean I dunno, if they beat the Pats, I'll be a believer.

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    Although I would be (none / 0) (#90)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:59:10 PM EST
    in shock if they did, it would make me tremendously proud of them.

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    I have to admit, this is fun. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 04:03:19 PM EST
    What is fun?

    Seeing the Rabbi and others, like on this very forum squirm. Are they having second thoughts?  Is there a God?  A Christian God?  A Tebow God?  Do they need to repent?

    I surely hope so.

    Um, we aren't squirming due to second thoughts (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:24:27 PM EST
    or thoughts of needs to repent dude.

    Squirming with contempt maybe....

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    I have no idea (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by sj on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:32:43 PM EST
    wht your point is.

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    I'm having a lot of second thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:03:32 PM EST
    Did Tim Tebow touch himself yesterday? Is he going to touch himself tonight?  Is it time for me to start betting on football games?  Cuz Tim Tebow is going to touch himself soon :)

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    You can blame that (none / 0) (#76)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:12:17 PM EST
    on the Bu**sh@t the news feeds us daily, but its not Tim's fault. Unlike a Kardashian, he does not run around looking to make the news. If he does "touch himself or anyone else" it is nobody's business but his own.

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    Really? (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 12:55:53 PM EST
    So its the press that's making him attend the red carpet events, play in celebrity golf tournaments, get miked up for NFL films and go on tours to promote his "book"?  

    Poor Timmah.  Who knew he had no free will of his own!  Darn liberal media.  

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    Have you seen Lindsey Vonn? (none / 0) (#108)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 12:47:54 PM EST
    Not my type, but I mean, come on!  If he's not touching himself, that brings up another set of questions.  :)

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    The rabbi has now apologized, ... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Yman on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:56:00 PM EST
    ... and the column's been yanked.

    Well done Rabbi (5.00 / 3) (#92)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:08:17 PM EST
    a sincere apology is always good after what, even if sober, came off as a drunken rant.

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    Then I will speak more on it. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:21:55 PM EST
    Blessed is the Rabbi and he is forgiven.

    That comes from me, but my thought is that Tim would feel the same way.  

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    I "pray" for the day (none / 0) (#99)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:55:12 PM EST
    a Muslim quaterback graces our presence in the NFL.
    Can't you just see it, score a TD, kneel on his mat, face Mecca, and bow 5 times.

    Wow! Listen to those delerious cheers, see those exstatic faces, feel the tolerance flowing!

    Even while sprinting in the heat (none / 0) (#107)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 10:54:38 AM EST
    Even while sprinting in the heat and humidity during drills, sometimes in full pads, Minnesota Vikings safety Husain Abdullah is adamant about his faith. He will not allow himself so much as a cup of water until the sun sets and before it rises.

    "I'm putting nothing before God, nothing before my religion," Abdullah said. "This is something I choose to do, not something I have to do. So I'm always going to fast.




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    Hey, good catch (none / 0) (#113)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 02:31:08 PM EST
    was not aware of Husain.

    thanks

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    The Rabbi has nothing to worry about. (none / 0) (#115)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 10:56:35 PM EST
    The Ravens will be winning the Super Bowl.

    I'm afraid it will be (none / 0) (#116)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:23:00 AM EST
    the Green Bay  Packers, ChuckO.  (Towanda, help me out here!)  But the rabbi still will have nothing to worry about.   ;-)

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