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Posted on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 05:32:18 PM EST
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Saturday starts tonight - my college football picks:

PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Autzen Stadium - Eugene, Oregon v. UCLA, Over 66 (2 units) (the win line is a zillion, too much)

MAC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Northern Illinois -3½ over Ohio (2 units)

Iowa State +10½ over Kansas State (2units), Houston -14 over Southern Mississippi (2 units), Cincinnati -9 over UConn (2 units), Baylor -3 over Texas (3 units)

BIG 10 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Wisconisn -10 over Michigan State (5 units)

SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - LSU -14 over Georgia (4 units)

ACC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Virginia Tech -7 over Clemson (5 units)

BEST BET - Oklahoma State -3½ over Oklahoma (10 units)

Bonus Premier League pick - Arsenal (-1) over Wigan.

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    Huntsman & Newt one on one debate (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by loveed on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:01:28 PM EST
    Huntsman & Newt will debate Dec.12.
     I think this is a big deal for Huntsman.He will get a lot of national exposure.
     Why is Newt doing this? I think he wants Huntsman to be the nominee. Because he knows he cannot beat Obama. He has to much baggage. And Huntsman has the best chance.

    My take (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Addison on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:11:24 PM EST
    Newt is doing this to raise his exposure (that's why he does everything though), but insofar as there's a strategic reason for raising Huntsman's profile it's that Huntsman represents someone who will siphon votes away from Romney but not Newt. So Newt can set up Huntsman as a drain on Romney from another political flank without worrying that he's setting up his own competitor.

    That's my opinion, anyway.

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    Thanks Addison; I must have been asleep (none / 0) (#3)
    by christinep on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:23:30 PM EST


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    Newt has all the exposure he needs (none / 0) (#4)
    by loveed on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:24:07 PM EST
     It's Huntsman who needs it.
     The media will treat this like a Ali & Fraiser fight.
      Newt cannot win,and he knows it. He also knows Romney will lose. The republican best choice is Huntsman.
     

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    The media (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:45:01 PM EST
    will not treat this like the Ali-Frazier fight.  I'm sorry, but they just won't.

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    I disagree (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by loveed on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 08:06:52 AM EST
    The media has treated the primaries like a sideshow. The country is in serious trouble,and the media is following Cain.
      I have said from the being, the republican want to win,and wants someone who has experience and a plan. Also there is a changing of the guards in the repub. party(dems is now the Obama party). If you followed the polls no one is over 25%. There never was a front runner.
     The media has never given Huntsman fair coverage.
    Lately that has been changing. Joe Scrabrough is behind him. His name is starting to get out there.
    Repub. blogger are encouraging there readers to take another look(it will be the first look for most of them).His economic plan endores by the Wall St. Journal.
     Huntsman is the most qualified candidate hands down. Working for Obama is a plus (he also worked for Reagan,Bush 1st.&2nd), it gives him experience on China no one else has. His record as governor is astounding(won his 2nd term by 80% of the vote). Number one in job creation,best state for business. Initiated a flat tax.
     Huntsman promblem is name reconition. He will get this in a debate aganist Newt. The media will follows Newt anywhere he goes.
      Two intellegent men discussing the issues that concerns all Americans. No petty moderator,asking stupid questions(Anderson Cooper).
     There will be a lot of people watching this debate not just repub.(Obama aproval rating 43%).Huntsman's appeal, crosses party lines.
     Newt offered to debate all the candidates. Romney refused.
     Huntsman refused to participate in the Trump debate.
     The media will hype this debate like and Ali&Fraiser fight. Old guard vs the new.

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    If Huntsman had not deliberately (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by MKS on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 02:47:12 PM EST
    tweaked conservatives on a couple of issues, he could have been the anti-Romney choice by now.

    He is a consistent conservative....Still think he is running fro 2016.  It will be his turn next time.

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    Huntsman just lost a lot of women voters (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Towanda on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 03:29:34 PM EST
    with his comment that Cain's problems were owing to "another bimbo eruption."

    Yeh, right; blame sexual harassment on "bimbos," like the communications director at the Inspector General's Office of the U.S. Treasury Department.

    And this from a man with three daughters.  Or are they three "bimbos" on the campaign trail for him?

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    Huntsman (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by CoralGables on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 03:47:41 PM EST
    has to have voters, before he can lose voters.

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    I had the same thought, after (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by Towanda on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 05:25:29 PM EST
    I hit "post," and I had a chuckle.

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    Seeing as how (none / 0) (#54)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 04:34:56 PM EST
    "bimbo eruption" was a phrase originated in Clinton's 1990 campaign.... I assume you didn't vote for him.

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    I believe you've missed the point (none / 0) (#55)
    by CoralGables on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 04:51:07 PM EST
    It was said by Huntsman about Cain. It was never said by Clinton.

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    It was coined by Betsy Wright (none / 0) (#68)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 08:46:50 AM EST
    in response to the various claims re Clinton.

    I think "trailer trash" was reserved for Paula Jones.

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    Yes, jim, I know that well, but (none / 0) (#57)
    by Towanda on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 05:26:35 PM EST
    did not think that a treatise on the history of the phrase was necessary with this group of commenters.

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    There you go again! ;-) (none / 0) (#69)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 08:47:38 AM EST


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    If the media hypes this debate ... (none / 0) (#44)
    by cymro on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 12:40:04 PM EST
    ... like an Ali-Fraiser fight, I will eat my spellchecker.

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    Eh. (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Addison on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:29:40 PM EST
    I feel very strongly that there is no upper limit on the amount of exposure Newt thinks he needs.

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    I just (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:24:54 PM EST
    don't see the GOP nominating someone who worked for Obama.

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    You can NOT be be serious!! (none / 0) (#18)
    by cymro on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:59:39 PM EST
    Anyone who thinks that any Huntsman-Gingrich debate will compare in any way to the series of Ali-Frazier bouts--which included the "Fight of the Century"--must not have been paying attention when Ali and Frazier were fighting.

    A Huntsman-Gingrich bout does not even generate enough interest to make the undercard of an Ali-Frazier fight.

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    An excellent (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 08:15:48 PM EST
    John McEnroe through your keyboard bringing an "international" flavor of sports to the debate.

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    What time do you anticipate going (none / 0) (#29)
    by nycstray on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 10:47:27 PM EST
    through security? I'll watch for 'breaking news', as we all know, airport outrage always gets better coverage than "if it bleeds, it leads" post 9/11 :)

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    Sounds like fun! (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by nycstray on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 11:28:37 PM EST
    After you land that is! Enjoy and have a safe, uneventful trip back to the "international" Islands :)

    D@mn it's depressing what some people believe in this country . . . .

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    You would have enjoyed (none / 0) (#30)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 10:51:01 PM EST
    my home state much more with an Albany victory. And as a lifelong Gator there is nothing I would have enjoyed more than hearing you give the rundown on a Great Danes victory over the Seminoles.

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    Do Alaskans get this treatment? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Towanda on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 11:15:43 PM EST
    They became territory about the same time -- although we at least paid the Russians, while we just stole your lovely land from the Hawaiians -- and they became a state about the same time.

    Ask the next idiot Floridian (not the smart ones, that is, and I do know some) who pulls this whether their beloved Sarah Palin is a furriner, too.

    And tell them that unlike Alaskans, you can't see a furrin country from your front porch.  Aloha!

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    International? (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 06:51:02 PM EST
    He really said "international"????
    Oh, geez Louise.  The educational system in this country is even worse than I thought if people think that Hawaii is some kind of foreign country.  As someone who lives in the mainland, I must apologize, Donald.  

    Oh, dear (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:14:56 PM EST
    Well, I wish the best for Albany, Donald.  (And, as for the geographical ignorance of Americans, I seem to remember reading something years ago about citizens of New Mexico occasionally having problems convincing others in this country that, yes, "New Mexico" is a state in the USA, not a part of the country of Mexico.)

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    LOL! (none / 0) (#16)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:46:52 PM EST
    Well, through there, or Texas, or Arizona, or California.   ;-)

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    Hmm.. but which side did (none / 0) (#14)
    by observed on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:37:49 PM EST
    Hawaii take in the War  of Northern Agression?

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    Excellent. That sounds like history (none / 0) (#27)
    by observed on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 10:25:02 PM EST
    which could be used in a Clive Cussler novel!


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    Just checked. Actually the Shenandoah (none / 0) (#33)
    by observed on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 11:06:25 PM EST
    ---actually a relic from it---is a central part of Lost Empire, by Cussler. I read that last year.


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    So funny. Welcome to Florida! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by ruffian on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 10:02:35 PM EST


    I like Florida (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 07:47:36 AM EST
    My Sundays are free in Florida panhandle, because I went to church all week while I was sitting at the stoplight :)

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    Ol' Tally... (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 07:58:40 AM EST
    I have great memories...met very cool intelligent people, killer keggers, The Guthrie's "Gut Box", 75 dolla lids of denny, pre-dawn 'shroom picking.

    Good times!

     

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    Just don't be ordering denny... (none / 0) (#49)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 02:08:45 PM EST
    at the Burger King drive-through down there.

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    I understand, (none / 0) (#61)
    by Amiss on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 11:25:31 PM EST
    really I do. It just makes me sad for the state I was born and raised in is in such dire straits from every angle. It also makes me sadder to think my Mother who was from Georgia, used to always brag "I was born in Georgia, raised in Alabama and came to Florida to live." She dearly loved the unspoiled part of Fla. where we lived.

    I am so sorry you had to endure the ignorance that dwells there now.

    My apologies.

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    Cain throws in the towel (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 10:03:18 AM EST
    A Farewell from Herman Cain

    But here's the part that really kills me.  You're kicking me to the curb because I was messing around, and instead you're going with... Newt Gingrich?  I repeat: are you fu*king kidding me?  Oh, I know what you're saying: you love Newt because he's an "intellectual."  Well, Newt Gingrich is the intellectual of the Republican field the way Moe was the intellectual of the Stooges.

    And that leads me to my final point: you disgust me, America.  Right now if I had my way, I'd up and move to another country.  I really, truly would.  Only I don't know where any of them are, and my wife won't let me leave the house.

    Goodbye forever,

    Herman
    Bye Bye Rick. (none / 0) (#12)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 07:28:29 PM EST
    The Ducks are going to send you out with a beat down.  

    Why does this guy keep getting hired?  

    Go, Ducks! (none / 0) (#38)
    by caseyOR on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 12:27:00 AM EST
    And it's on to the Rose Bowl.

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    I'm sure you'll destroy... (none / 0) (#58)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 09:23:53 PM EST
    either Wisconsin or Michigan State as per usual when a team from the Heartland ventures to Pasadena.  Still, it will be nice to have a "traditional" Rose Bowl again.  I'd love to see more inter-conference preseason games too--especially if say, Iowa, would play in Boulder or SLC.

    I'm very much enjoying the first ever Big Ten Championship game.  The best thing about it (aside from actually being a good game) is that Ohio State, Michigan and/or Nebraska aren't there!

     

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    Well, my water fowl have not fared (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 12:16:34 AM EST
    well in post season bowl games. Last year they lost to Auburn in the BCS Bowl. The year before that the Ducks lost to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.

    On the plus side, the Ducks have a been quite successful in defeating water rodent teams. Hopefully, that will hold true when the meet the Badgers.

    Like you, I am looking forward to a traditional Rose Bowl game. Screwing with the Rose Bowl is one of the reasons I dislike the BCS.

    And yes, what's not to love about a Rose Bowl that does not include the Buckeyes, the Wolverines or the the Cornhuskers?

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    Boo! (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 12:17:02 AM EST


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    Hey! (none / 0) (#64)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 12:18:56 AM EST
    I always cheer for Michigan when they play Ohio State. That's as much as I can give you.

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    Oh, mile high is the "parent"! (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 12:23:49 AM EST


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    Having lived in or around Tallahassee (none / 0) (#20)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 08:33:48 PM EST
    for a good part of my life, most are not like that, I can almost guarantee you he is a transfern, although, we live with 1/3 the US homeless and support them with that huge crook Rick Scott and before him Charlie Crist and then there was Jeb. Our education budget has been pared down to almost or nothing, so what teachers we do have are waaaay overloaded. I really feel for them, but they have ruined the Florida I grew up in.
    Having lived in or around Tallahassee (none / 0) (#21)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 08:34:45 PM EST
    for a good part of my life, most are not like that, I can almost guarantee you he is a transfern, although, we live with 1/3 the US homeless and support them with that huge crook Rick Scott and before him Charlie Crist and then there was Jeb. Our education budget has been pared down to almost or nothing, so what teachers we do have are waaaay overloaded. I really feel for them, but they have ruined the Florida I grew up in.
    I'm for Clemson over Va Tech (none / 0) (#22)
    by Amiss on Fri Dec 02, 2011 at 08:43:07 PM EST


    Of course. That would help Stanford ... (none / 0) (#39)
    by cymro on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 03:02:12 AM EST
    ... clinch a BCS bowl berth.

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    Cain (none / 0) (#45)
    by CoralGables on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 01:10:43 PM EST
    officially fades away into the Georgia sunset.

    The Cain Mutiny, (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by KeysDan on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 02:09:31 PM EST
    his "investors" were staying away in droves.  I would have thought that as savvy businessmen, the Koch Brothers would have vetted him better.  Although, he is family being another brother with a different mother, and all.   But Herman did get a good business tip from someone--suspend the campaign, don't end it.... you will then still be eligible for federal matching funds in 2012. The other tip was don't tell your Tea Party people.

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    In a few (none / 0) (#46)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 01:23:46 PM EST
    months Newt probably will too.

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    And the comedy team ... (none / 0) (#47)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 01:29:11 PM EST
    aspect of this campaign lost one of its "Shemp".

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    And the comedy team ... (none / 0) (#48)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 01:30:35 PM EST
    part of this campaign lost its "Shemp".

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    If I had a vote (none / 0) (#59)
    by CoralGables on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 09:38:34 PM EST
    I'd give Oklahoma State the National Championship game with LSU. Alabama had their shot, played at home, and lost. What the Cowboys are doing to Oklahoma tonight makes them more deserving than letting Bama have a rematch.

    Agreed. (none / 0) (#60)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 10:59:26 PM EST
    The computers seem to like OSU and maybe tonight's thumping of Oklahoma will get them over Bama.  

    Or maybe T. Boone will just buy their way into the NCG.  

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    The computers (none / 0) (#70)
    by CoralGables on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 09:22:31 AM EST
    will like them even more after a win over number 10 while Alabama was sitting. It's hard to ignore that stomping and would like to think the human voters were watching.

    Alabama may very well be the 2nd best team in the country but they have no claim to number 1. If OSU loses to LSU by more than three and Alabama wins their bowl game, make Bama number 2 again. But now let's see if the Cowboys can knock off number 1.

    On a side note, my daughter's school lost to one of your Iowa teams yesterday (Northern Iowa) after a brain freeze by a player that would rate up there with Leon Lett and Chris Webber.

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    OWS @ Met. Opera tonight just b/4 downbeat. (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 12:21:04 AM EST
    Sounded like a guy on top of balcony had an. Electronically enhanced bullhorn    First applause. Then: throw him out

    Astana welcomes Elmer Fudd (none / 0) (#67)
    by observed on Sun Dec 04, 2011 at 02:32:23 AM EST
    I was just shopping in the market in my apt. complex. I bought some chicken, but there was also a package of meat with a smiling Bugs Bunny on it. Someone will be having HasenPfeffer this week.
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