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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 08:44:28 AM EST
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Tom Friedman now:

Iraq was always a war of choice. [. . .] seemed to me to be a legitimate strategic choice. But was it a wise choice? My answer is twofold: “No” and “Maybe, sort of, we’ll see.” I say “no” because whatever happens in Iraq, even if it becomes Switzerland, we overpaid for it.

Tom Friedman then:

Friedman writes "I have nothing but respect for the Americans, Brits and Iraqis who paid the price to make it possible." Speaking for me only, eff you Tom Friedman.

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    And the horse you rode in on. (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by TJBuff on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 08:59:01 AM EST


    You meaning Friedman (none / 0) (#2)
    by TJBuff on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:13:57 AM EST


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    I got your intention :) (none / 0) (#7)
    by sj on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:09:34 AM EST


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    Thank you (none / 0) (#21)
    by Stellaaa on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 07:42:41 PM EST
    Triple eff him.

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    Atrios on Friedmann and the rationalizations (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by MO Blue on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:19:18 AM EST
    on invading Iraq.

    We Did It Because We Loved Them Very Much

    The easy point is that Tom Friedman is full of sh!t. More charitably (not really) is that no one can really remember why they supported the Iraq war because there were 300 competing reasons that didn't make any sense.



    Friedman (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Edger on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:47:31 AM EST
    should move to Baghdad and write these columns there, from a street corner kiosk....

    What's "it", btw?

    You speak for many of us on this one (5.00 / 0) (#9)
    by BobTinKY on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:30:10 AM EST
    Saw the column headline, did not even bother to look

    Those (1.00 / 4) (#8)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:27:26 AM EST
    The Americans, Brits, Iraqis, Poles, et al, that paid the price to end that ugly dictator's reign of terror do indeed deserve our respect.

    Friedman writes "I have nothing but respect for the Americans, Brits and Iraqis who paid the price to make it possible." Speaking for me only, eff you Tom Friedman

    Eff you BTD.  Sideways.

    Gee, trade an ugly dictator (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:44:30 AM EST
    for the constant threat of civil war while strengthening the hold of the Ayatollahs who are so against turning Iraq back into a dictatorship :)  Only this dictatorship would be squarely in Iran's court.  Way to go George Bush, Dick Cheney, and GOP USA....WAY....TO....GO

    At least coffin manufacturers got jobs though, in both countries.  Gotta find that silver lining.  It's in there somewhere, even if that somewhere is a coffin.

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    Tom Friedman's respect (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by sj on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:46:07 AM EST
    is worth no more and no less than your respect.  Probably less because yours might even be sincere.  His is just words.

    And his words are worth nothing.  His opinion is worth nothing.  

    And your final statement is just plain boorish.

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    Reading comprehension (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 11:35:48 AM EST
    not your strongest suit, I guess.

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    for being tools to commit war crimes and (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by cpinva on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 12:40:24 PM EST
    crimes against humanity? i think not.

    The Americans, Brits, Iraqis, Poles, et al, that paid the price to end that ugly dictator's reign of terror do indeed deserve our respect.

    eff you abdul, and the sorry assed horse you stumbled in on. no one asked us to invade iraq, least of all the iraqi's. bush, cheney, et al should be tried at the hague, since nuremburg's already taken.

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    I think you misunderstand the target... (5.00 / 0) (#14)
    by Addison on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 01:02:00 PM EST
    I think it was clear that BTD found it incredibly distasteful that an "ideas man" neo-con war cheerleader is now leaning so hard on the sacrifice of others -- that's too abstract, the death of others -- to throw up a cloud of sentimental smoke to obscure his terrible mistakes.

    Somehow Friedman thinks that the horrific cost of his error somehow means he was righteous in making the error. That's deserving of an obscenity or two.

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    That was not clear (none / 0) (#17)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 01:30:42 PM EST
    although you thought otherwise.

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    It was perfectly clear (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by cal1942 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 02:52:25 PM EST
    to anyone who can read.

    Friedman will gladly sacrifice someone else's kids to satisfy his personal blood lust.  Now he says he has respect.  If he'd had any real respect he would have opposed this stain on our nation and many thousands would today be alive.

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    with respect (none / 0) (#20)
    by The Addams Family on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 04:43:30 PM EST
    i don't think Tom Friedman's opposition would have stopped the invasion of Iraq . . . it was clear at the time that nothing was going to stop it

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    I agree (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by cal1942 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:31:02 PM EST
    but opposing the invasion was the right thing.

    I would never expect that a single pundit could stop a decision on public policy.

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    That's true (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by sj on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 10:45:40 PM EST
    But he eagerly did his part to sell it to the public.  He has something to answer for.

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    It was clear to (none / 0) (#18)
    by sj on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 02:22:14 PM EST
    [most of] the rest of us.  But, as one who has previously misinterpreted the obvious, I offer this thought:

    A mea culpa is probably in order.  From you (in case I wasn't clear).

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    Wooooooooosshhhhhh .... n/t (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by Yman on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 01:06:14 PM EST


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    Shoot, shucky darn (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:19:47 AM EST
    It is illegal for me to help Tom Friedman feel the pain and suffering that only person paid to make the Iraq War "possible".  I think it is highly likely that Ted Bundy would have listened to Friedman on the tube and thought, "I'd like to have a beer with that guy".

    A small photo gallery (none / 0) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 09:44:28 AM EST
    That Salon put up about the unseen of the Iraq War is here.  Warning though, gruesome prices paid.  This amounts to about a penny's worth of what was paid.

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    tracy, i expect there are many, many others, (none / 0) (#22)
    by cpinva on Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 07:58:58 PM EST
    who would be quite happy to take your place, in helping mr. friedman personally feel the "pain and suffering". fortunately for him, most of those people are law abiding, and the very worst he'll have to endure is not being invited to a cocktail party or two. but think of all the great shrimp he'll be missing!

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