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What's the White House serving for the Super Bowl? Hotdogs, hamburgers, pizza and ice cream. What's on your menu?

Sam Elliott has a great voice. It looks cold in Dallas. Here's Christina Aguilera and the national anthem, only they just went to commercial. (Ok, there she is, I think she did great, even though she missed a few words, and I loved her shoes.)

Update: The line "O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming" came out "What so proudly we watched as the twilight's last gleaming"

Whether you're watching the Super Bowl or not, here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Christina Aquilera was horrible. (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by byteb on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:27:33 PM EST
    Sam Elliot does have a great voice; sadly, Aquilera does not.

    Yes! A wailing, tuneless dirge. (none / 0) (#115)
    by rennies on Tue Feb 08, 2011 at 05:41:17 PM EST
    Yes, this game certainly is just as important (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:33:57 PM EST
    as d-day. What a bizarre into.

    I know! (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Dr Molly on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:53:28 PM EST
    So weird...

    desperately trying to work in some militaristic analogy. nonsensical!

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    Well you know, football (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 06:01:20 PM EST
    is full of all those military metaphors, as George Carlin famously observed.

    Another kinda weird and awkward thing is they did the usual military jet flyover, but this is an indoor stadium.  

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    Also (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:13:29 PM EST
    I really could have gone the rest of my life never seeing George W. Bush and Condi Rice sitting together at a highly publicized event ever again.

    Brett who? Rodgers' face (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:13:32 PM EST
    when he saw, from the sidelines, that Packer play that put it away:  Priceless.

    So glad that scum Roethlisberger is a loser, officially.

    Front page in NFL's smallest town (none / 0) (#53)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:23:48 PM EST
    is a treat -- just sent to me by a friend near there, where the paper seems to be a bit of a loss for words:  

    The Green Bay Packers are world champions again.  Champions! Champions! Champions! Champions! Champions!


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    Don't forget the Yuengling lager. (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:13:04 AM EST
    Best PA beer since Rolling Rock got bought by A-B and moved to NJ. You guys west of the Mississippi probably haven't had the pleasure.

    That said, go Packers.

    You forgot Iron City (none / 0) (#83)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:22:14 AM EST
    Nah.... (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by smott on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:50:07 AM EST
    Yeungling beats IC by a far shot and RR too...

    Though a cold Pony after a few sets of tennis goes down smooth LOL!!

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    Well, yes, sort of. (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 at 08:22:12 AM EST
    But that because IC is nothing but forgettable. It doesn't rank anywhere close to Yuengling. IC is horrible beer.

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    sounds like something (none / 0) (#86)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 11:02:02 AM EST
    Yoda would drink.  with a pic of a child on it or something.

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    some things just make you smile (5.00 / 2) (#94)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:53:22 PM EST
    GENEVA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Former U.S. President George W. Bush has cancelled a visit to Switzerland, where he was to address a Jewish charity gala, due to the risk of legal action against him for alleged torture, rights groups said on Saturday.


    Am I a (none / 0) (#96)
    by Zorba on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:11:09 PM EST
    terrible person for immediately feeling a sense of deep, deep schadenfreude?  ;-)

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    America sung with Glee (none / 0) (#1)
    by DFLer on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:21:10 PM EST
    Arrangement by Disney

    Unless I'm completely (none / 0) (#2)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:26:50 PM EST
    not paying proper attention, Christine Aguilera just messed up the words to the Nat'l Anthem.

    I thought that thing was supposed to be all-canned?

    I'd play it back but I don't (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by byteb on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:28:56 PM EST
    have the heart to "listen" to her again.

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    Looks like I wasn't (none / 0) (#6)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:31:25 PM EST
    alone in catching the Aguilera botch, according to the Twitter folks.

    Next year they go back to canned vocals I bet ...

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    What was the botch? I really didn't catch it (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:34:42 PM EST
    I think it was (none / 0) (#9)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:37:19 PM EST
    the verse starting with "And the rocket's red glare" -- instead of that she repeated some lines from previous verses, iirc.

    Have to see the replay though, don't quote me.

    Game started.

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    I rewound and put the botched line (none / 0) (#10)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:48:42 PM EST
    in the main post -- she missed the ramparts

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    So she did (none / 0) (#13)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 06:38:08 PM EST
    No one seemed to react to it in the cutaway shots. Very disciplined members of the military there.

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    I wonder (none / 0) (#78)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:10:35 AM EST
    how many people in the stadium actually know the words.

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    She did mess up---from another blogg (none / 0) (#19)
    by mogal on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:36:32 PM EST
     "At about 51 seconds in, as she was about to sing the fourth line ("O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming"), she accidentally sang a hybrid of the second line: "What so proudly we watched, at the twilight's last streaming."

     

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    It did not sound canned (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 05:30:55 PM EST
    I didn't catch a wording change, but my attention span is too short to really listen when the thing takes 3 times as long as it should.

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    Vanessa Williams (none / 0) (#14)
    by andgarden on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 06:52:58 PM EST
    researches her family history. One great great grandfather was born free and joined the Union Army from NY in the 1860s. Another was a member of the TN general assembly in the 1870s (before the tragic compromise of 1877).

    For pop history, I'm surprised at how well this is done. Kudos to NBC.

    Saw that Friday (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:36:01 PM EST
    It had 6 episodes last year also. They do a good job. So many interesting stories.

    Last year Sarah Jessica Parker found out her ancestor was almost burned as a witch in Salem, but the trials were halted right before her trial.

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    Watching the (none / 0) (#28)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:11:17 PM EST
    Lisa Kudrow one now. She's in Belaurus/Minsk tracking her great-grandmother who was killed by Nazis. I saw a few last year and thought they were a bit over-dramatic and way too slow moving, but I'm going to try this one since Shameless doesn't start for an hour.

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    I watched the Kudrow one too (none / 0) (#41)
    by andgarden on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:33:46 PM EST
    It hit close to home.

    Parent
    Yes, I remember that one last year (none / 0) (#84)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:28:40 AM EST
    They must have replayed it Sunday.

    Regarding the production, I think the new episode with Vanessa Williams was better done than last year's episodes. They don't spend as much time reviewing what they did before the commercial break. Last year I would ff through the first minute after it came back from commercial, and I didn't have to do that this time.

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    nail on the head (none / 0) (#111)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 11:08:55 PM EST
    that's what makes it so awful, that they replay the last minute when coming back from commercial. I didn't realize it until they did it over and over during Kudrow. I could recite the dialogue by heart by the time it ended. Glad to hear they changed it for this year.

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    Chilling video of police in Alexandria shooting (none / 0) (#15)
    by jawbone on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 06:56:31 PM EST
    unarmed civilian.

    From The Atlantic's Day 13: Protest City aggregation from various sources.

    Some videos seem ambiguous; this does not to me.

    SB halftime show (none / 0) (#16)
    by DFLer on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:24:05 PM EST
    Wow..what a terrible mix for tv! Can't hear any of the track. The Peas sound pretty exposed....which isn't always good. Slash sounded good, though.

    and what's with all the neon sperm guys on the field?

    a show targeted to, what, 11-year-olds?

    yikes. bring on the football players...please

    Yeah, that was bad (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:39:17 PM EST
    Reminded me of a really bad Olympics closing ceremony.

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    sound was terrible (none / 0) (#22)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:52:54 PM EST
    Could barely hear them. I wonder how much it cost to hire all those dancers. Their outfits were amaateurish. Usher didn't add much, but maybe it was the sound.

    Parent
    What was e little Slash interlude all about? (none / 0) (#23)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:58:15 PM EST
    Just to give those of us over 40 30 seconds of a song we might recognize?

    Parent
    "I think she did great, even though.... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Key on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:33:20 PM EST
    "I think she did great, even though she missed a few words."

    I suppose it's possible, but this a bit like saying of a football player who just fumbled the ball, "he did a great job!"


    How can someone miss a few (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:01:20 PM EST
    words of the Star Spangled Banner and be born and raised in the USA?  It does blow me away that there are many "serious" singers out there that don't know the words.

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    I think it might have to do with (none / 0) (#26)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:06:31 PM EST
    singing it alone. When I try to think of the words I stumble a little too. But fergawdsake I would practice if I were going to go solo for an audience.

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    My husband said it is because (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:10:19 PM EST
    of the stress, I counter with how can it be any more stressful than the audiences they normally sing to?  I told him that if I were up there singing it I would not forget the words.  And then my Rockband bassist has the gall to tell me that they wouldn't ask me to sing it.

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    Maybe, maybe not (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:13:10 PM EST
    We had to learn all four verses of The Star Spangled Banner when I was in 8th grade.  I still remember them.

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    So do I (5.00 / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:14:43 PM EST
    I am not a huge lover of music and singing like my daughter is, but I was attracted to choir and our music teacher was a Nazi about knowing and singing the words.

    Parent
    Different experience here: (5.00 / 0) (#36)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:24:57 PM EST
    we were mercifully spared having to sing that song, except at the ball park.  

    Instead, in 5th grade our very musically-inclined Euro immigrant wanna-be Julie Andrews teacher had us learn practically the entire soundtrack to the just-released The Sound of Music.  Ask me to sing some of those songs properly, and 45 yrs later I could still do most of 'em, word for word.

    As for The Star Bungled Banner, I've been hearing it for decades, almost always at sporting events, but I still need notes or cue cards to keep all the words and verses in order.

    I feel for her.


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    My same music teacher (none / 0) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:37:57 PM EST
    also had a small children's German choir after school hours that I joined.  I can still sing a couple a German songs and couldn't tell you one lick of what they mean :)

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    My elementary (5.00 / 1) (#109)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 07:14:19 PM EST
    school choir -- participation was mandatory -- sang lots of Xmas Carols for Xmas and Irish songs for St. Patrick's Day.  I'm the only one I know, Jew or Christian, who knows all the words to Adeste Fideles in Latin!  

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    I never had it that well ingrained (none / 0) (#33)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:18:32 PM EST
    The part she messed up is the part I mess up too. I think "o'er the ramparts we watched" is just bad lyric writing!

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    You didn't have (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:26:20 PM EST
    my eighth grade teacher!  All four verses of The Star Spangled Banner, plus the complete America the Beautiful, plus the first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence, plus a whole bunch of other stuff!

    Parent
    Nope, I had nuns! (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:29:00 PM EST
    I know all the hymns I have not heard for 40 years!

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    Oh, dear! (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:37:11 PM EST
    Same type of thing, but with a completely different emphasis!

    Parent
    i was taught by nuns, too. (none / 0) (#56)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:17:32 PM EST
    We learned the patriotic songs, and we learned the Catholic hymns. Each school day started with the Pledge of Allegiance (to the flag) and the Pledge to the Cross.

    I stumble a bit with The Star Spangled Banner, which I think is a terrible choice for a song that all Americans are supposed to be able to sing. A better choice would be, IMO, American the Beautiful, which is also sung at all major sporting events, at least the televised ones. I don't remember that song being part of the program before 9/11.

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    My brain was always going (none / 0) (#35)
    by ruffian on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:20:49 PM EST
    'what is a rampart and why were we watching it?'

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    Well me too (5.00 / 0) (#38)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:26:24 PM EST
    but a scowling pacing music teacher can flame such silly questions right out of your head :)

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    I don't know whether (none / 0) (#32)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:16:01 PM EST
    singing it alone had anything to do with it.  We had to learn all four verses of The Star Spangled Banner when I was in 8th grade.  I still remember them.  I would have thought that she would, indeed, have practiced it a whole lot before the performance.

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    Sorry that (none / 0) (#34)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:20:44 PM EST
    I repeated myself- I thought that my remarks above had not been posted.

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    Was anybody else embarrassed for our (none / 0) (#21)
    by mogal on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:46:43 PM EST
     culture watching the half time show?


    I tried a little over (none / 0) (#44)
    by brodie on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:38:20 PM EST
    5 minutes of it -- it looked and sounded to this 60s/70s guy like someone's disturbing, dystopic effort at Blade Runner: The Musical.

    Rap or whatever they call that stuff -- musically it just doesn't get my juices flowing.  And the post-apocalyptic fashion look of the performers made me want to count the days remaining until we can finally be done with all this on 12-21-12.

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    I did a little research on BEP (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:42:43 AM EST
    during half time.  Didn't realize will.i.am was part of the group.  How's come he gets so much publicity?

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    I don't know about his music (none / 0) (#110)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 07:16:10 PM EST
    but I've seen him on talk shows, e.g., Bill Maher's Real Time, and I think he's an interesting fellow.

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    Missed the opening (none / 0) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 07:59:54 PM EST
    We decided to tune in later, not much for football around here but Joshua's love of Auburn is slowly turning that around.  I'm here mostly for the commercials but they don't seem that good this year.  Halftime sound quality seemed to be having problems.

    Mother of God (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:30:00 PM EST
    Green Bay is trying to make BTD correct about his total number of points scored.

    Aren't they sitting exactly (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:45:50 PM EST
    where BTD calls this?  Steelers by three and over 45 pts scored.  It can't be over can it?  If it ends like this we'll never get BTD's fat head through a doorway :)

    Oh no....it's Green Bay by 3 (none / 0) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:46:40 PM EST
    Whew!  Heh!

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    As they say, (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:52:42 PM EST
    It ain't over 'til it's over.  

    Parent
    I know (none / 0) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 08:58:23 PM EST
    Anything can happen

    Parent
    Well, over (none / 0) (#52)
    by Zorba on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:21:08 PM EST
    45 points scored, yes, but Green Bay by 6.

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    Was there a Lambeau Leap? (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:43:14 AM EST
    The Packers are very happy (none / 0) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:06:10 PM EST


    Is it me? (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 09:08:18 PM EST
    Or do the Steelers really not look that bummed?  Must be that "Socialist" society that makes you feel less suicidal when you lose :)

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    Make no mistake (none / 0) (#55)
    by smott on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:15:34 PM EST

    We are bummed in Pgh, though we know we've been spoiled in the footbal dept (and hockey).

    However I really could not bring myself to follow them that closely this year after the Roethlisberger off-season "activity". It was too much, and in such a small town like Pgh everyone know's Ben's MO and in fact it was not that big of a surprise. He's lucky he's not in jail, and I hope the other woman in Tahoe takes him to the cleaners in civil court.

    And I've been a Steeler fan since I was old enough to know what football was.  Still recall being a young squirt in front of the TV and watching their first SB v Minn.

    So the Rooney's decision to keep Roethlisberger went down really hard, for me and no small number of fans. People were mailing their jerseys back. It really took the class out of what had been up til that time a very principled, well-run family-owned organization that you could be proud to root for.

    Not anymore, unfortunately.

    Anyway congrats to the Pack. The better team won today.

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    It is a bummer (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:10:43 AM EST
    that Roethlisberger tainted this Super Bowl.  He wasn't the only player on the field, and I tried to keep that in mind.  It wasn't all about him.  But he did really ruin the experience of the game for me by being there.

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    Well there's (none / 0) (#76)
    by smott on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 09:35:54 AM EST
    50-odd other Steelers on the field and most of them are true tough competitors.
    I hope Ben gets himself together too, but in the same way I can never really support Vick, I can never get behind Roethlisberger either.

    I still hope the Rooneys unload him.

    The fact that they tossed Holmes for tweeting about toking makes it all the more ridiculous IMO. (And yes I know he was on his third strike...)

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    Jet Fans... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 09:47:29 AM EST
    appreciated that sh*tcanning of Holmes...I just hope we can resign him!

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    Hope you do too kdog... (none / 0) (#79)
    by smott on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:11:29 AM EST
    Tone is a good guy. A bit dim-witted when it comes to weed, but in a loveable way LOL.

    Unlike ROethlisberger who is not lovable in any way at all....

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    Yep... (none / 0) (#88)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 11:34:07 AM EST
    kind of a microcosm of society at large...smoking a little grass treated more harshly than, ya know, an actual crime with one of those victim thingies...lol.

    Pretty ridiculous that the sports leagues even test for reefer...but ridiculous is nuthin' new:)

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    That's good to hear about (none / 0) (#59)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:33:47 PM EST
    good people in Pittsburgh.  I have friends in Wisconsin who said the same thing about behavior of Packer players who were players off the field, too, including a certain ex-QB.  That lost support for them as well for a while, even there, because it is the Green Bay community that owns the team.  But mailing back jerseys?  That really was a statement.

    Did I read that Roethlisberger really went out on the town in recent days in Dallas, dropping hundreds of dollars for frolics in bars?  If so, well, that's no way to train for a big game.

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    I hope not but I expect so (none / 0) (#67)
    by smott on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:08:31 AM EST
    ....and likely not hundreds but thousands of dollars spent in the bar, tabs which he frequently walks out on, or tries to. There's places in Pgh that won't let him in anymore. He's had this MO since his college days in Miami-Ohio. Just a pig, basically.

    (I will say this - he's smart enough to have cops and state troopers as part of his posse. Smooth things over with the local law when things get out of hand. Or destroy evidence for him as in the GA case...)

    And yes, mailing jerseys back. Around here, that's big.  (I waffled on sending my #20 Rocky Bleier back...but kept it. Different era.)

    It was funny - at all the shops w/Steeler stuff, the #7 jerseys disappeared to the back of the rack when they used to be displayed prominently.

    I still cringe when I see a woman, or some guy with his kid daughter in a 7 jersey. Some people put their fanaticism over anything.

    Anyway that whole thing broke my heart as a fan more than the SB loss.

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    Seriously. (none / 0) (#63)
    by huzzlewhat on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:20:20 AM EST
    As a Steelers fan (born and raised in PA) who relocated to Wisconsin a few years back, I'm bummed, just because the Steelers are my team, and always will be. But I can't say that I was whole-heartedly behind them this year after they caved and halved Roethlisberger's suspension. And given Favre turning out to be such a similarly inclined pig (while having been the next thing to a saint in WI), I can't say I'm completely sorry to see Aaron Rodgers pull it out.

    Sincere congrats to the Packers, though my heart was with Pittsburgh.

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    Oh, happy Packer Backer here! Oh, frabjous joy! Oh (none / 0) (#54)
    by jawbone on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 10:20:43 PM EST
    Green and Gold! (They could lose the neon yellow, btw.)

    Sooooo nice to see them win, that great team from a small city, owned by regular citizens!

    And, were my dad still alive, he would be so happy too.

    AOL buys Huffington Post. (none / 0) (#57)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:22:53 PM EST
    Arianna Huffington and the executives at AOL completed the deal today. AOL will pay $315 million for Huffington Post.

    Arianna, in addition to the $$$, gets a major executive role managing AOL's online info gathering services.

    Heh (none / 0) (#58)
    by andgarden on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:32:41 PM EST
    Remember the last time AOL bought a media company. . .?

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    I do remember that merger debacle. (none / 0) (#60)
    by caseyOR on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:49:50 PM EST
    I think Arianna is getting a lot of the sale price in cash. I hope so, anyway.

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    Looks like she is (none / 0) (#61)
    by shoephone on Sun Feb 06, 2011 at 11:52:48 PM EST
    $300 mil in cash, $15 mil in stock.

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    That's a crazy amount of money (none / 0) (#64)
    by andgarden on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:24:18 AM EST
    I mean, I could find a way to spend even a few trillion Dollars, but I can't fathom being paid hundreds of millions in one transaction.

    If I had all the resources in the world, I'd probably spend a few billion Dollars a year trying to influence elections.

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    I daydream about the same thing... (none / 0) (#69)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 07:57:52 AM EST
    but I'd fund revolutions...and I'd leave the house with ten grand cash everyday just to slip c-notes in random people's hands.

    That was fun, now back to reality:)

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    Thought you might have a comment (none / 0) (#91)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:26:07 PM EST
    re this Digby post:  Libertarians on the road

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    Any legislation... (none / 0) (#92)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:39:41 PM EST
    that would render the DMV obsolete sounds good to me...that place is one of Dante's Circles of Hell.

    And I like the poetic waxing about papers please and inalienable rights and the crazy notion that we absolutely have to know "who is who"...they may be crackpots, but boy are they my kinda crackpots!  Way cooler than the central plan everything crackpots.

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    Although, in many states, no driver (none / 0) (#97)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:12:16 PM EST
    license unless applicant is "documented."  I would anticipate resistance to the idea of "let anybody drive."  

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    I see it as similar... (none / 0) (#103)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:30:28 PM EST
    to the illusion of security/safety song and dance we do at the airport...everybody who wants/needs to drive does so, whether they have a license in good standing or not...why bother playing the silly game ya know?  Ya gotta get to work whether the man gives you permission or not.

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    Two Latino adult friends recently (none / 0) (#104)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:32:19 PM EST
    told me about their kids driving, say at age 15, w/no license, learning permit, driver training, etc.  OK with the parents.  I worry about the parents' liability.  

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    I "borrowed" the car... (none / 0) (#105)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:43:31 PM EST
    at that age too...just for a spin around the block.  My parents were in the dark though...they never would have allowed it.  

    My pops would let me drive, with him in the car, in parking lots and such from around 12-13, if memory serves....just to get my feet wet.  Illegal, but what isn't these days? :)

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    "In the parking lot" (none / 0) (#106)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:48:24 PM EST
    Which I assume was empty, does not put any other driver or pedestrian at risk.

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    Of course... (none / 0) (#107)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:51:01 PM EST
    my pops was anti-authority, not stupid:)

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    I imagine :) (none / 0) (#108)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 02:36:20 PM EST
    She's also shaking a lawsuit (none / 0) (#62)
    by andgarden on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:20:10 AM EST
    (in progress) from Peter Daou and James Boyce. At least, I don't think they settled.  

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    saw a great movie this weekend (none / 0) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:24:30 AM EST
    Unthinkable.

    looks like it streams.
    this is a serious movie on a serious subject.  it has Samuel L. Jackson as a black ops type interrogation specialist who works for some shadowy agency of the US government.
    the crux of the story is how far is it justifiable to go to make a US born Islamic terrorist tell where he has hidden three nuclear bombs.  I wont spoil it by telling you where it goes because when it went there I was, like, wow, I didnt see that coming. its just so "unthinkable".  the terrorist Michael Sheen in a very different role than the one we saw recently in Frost/Nixon.
    recommended.


    another great movie from this weekend (none / 0) (#73)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:30:52 AM EST
    (tv sucked because of the SuperBowl)

    A Woman, a Gun and a Noodle Shop
    this is Yimou Zhangs (Hero/House of Flying Daggers) remake of the first and IMO still best Cohen brothers movie Blood Simple. which was among other things Francis McDormands first movie also.
    wonderful.  if you have never seen Blood Simple I recommend you get both from netflix. in any order you choose.  it would be fun to see either one of them first.

    from a review (none / 0) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 08:54:37 AM EST
    To be completely honest, when I first heard there was going to be a Chinese remake of the Coen Brothers brilliant first film, Blood Simple, I thought it was a crazy - and completely idiotic - idea. Even after I learned that it would be directed by Zhang Yimou [Ju Dou, Raise the Red Lantern, Hero], I wasn't convinced. Then I blinked and missed its brief theatrical run. Fortunately, I was able to garner a review copy of this week's DVD release and I am flabbergasted by just how good it is.
    ***
    The cinematography, by Zhao Xiaoding [House of Flying Daggers], is frequently spectacular. He captures the beauty and isolation of the area in ways that both hold the eye and propel the story. A Woman, A Gun and A Noodle Shop is one of Yimou's most gorgeous films and certainly his most unusual.

    Where Blood Simple is a darkly twisted blackly comic take on noir, A Woman, A Gun and A Noodle Shop is a bright, sunny, deeply twisted period piece with equally black [but more sunnily shot] humor.



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    interesting thing in the Grey Old Bat on (none / 0) (#75)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 09:24:24 AM EST
    the Judicial Math on Health Care

    . . . some scholars are already wondering how much damage, if any, a party-line ruling striking down the [healthcare] law would do to the court's prestige, authority and legitimacy.

    ---

    Neither Bush v. Gore nor last year's 5-4 decision in Citizens United, which allowed unlimited corporate spending in elections, appears to have seriously harmed the court's reputation.

    um, k.

    Congresswoman Jane Harman resgining (none / 0) (#80)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:11:45 AM EST
    tomorrow and will run the Woodrow Wilson Center, HuffPo reports.

    good (none / 0) (#82)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 10:18:39 AM EST
    the anniversary issue of The New Yorker (none / 0) (#87)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 11:16:50 AM EST
    has a great write up on our new partner in crime Guillermo del Toro.

    Show The Monster
    Guillermo del Toro's quest to get amazing creatures onscreen.
    by Daniel Zalewski February 7, 2011


    more good news from the knuckle draggers (none / 0) (#89)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 11:56:21 AM EST
    "From the Wired article: 'If educators in New Mexico want to teach evolution or climate change as a "controversial scientific topic," a new bill seeks to protect them from punishment. House Bill 302, as it's called, states that public school teachers who want to teach "scientific weaknesses" about "controversial scientific topics" including evolution, climate change, human cloning and -- ambiguously -- "other scientific topics" may do so without fear of reprimand. The legislation was introduced to the New Mexico House of Representatives on Feb. 1 by Republican Rep. Thomas A. Anderson. Supporters of science education say this and other bills are designed to spook teachers who want to teach legitimate science and protect other teachers who may already be customizing their curricula with anti-science lesson plans.'"


    I finally listened. God, she's awful. (none / 0) (#90)
    by observed on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:24:37 PM EST
    Terrible sound, awful diction, but her pitch is not completely off.

    Obama plays media like a fiddle (none / 0) (#93)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 12:44:28 PM EST
    In early November, Barack Obama was one sad sack of a president -- his agenda repudiated by midterm voters, his political judgment scorned by commentators, his future darkened by a growing belief he might be a one-time president.

    In early February, Obama is master of the moment -- his polls on the upswing, his political dexterity applauded by pundits, his status as Washington's dominant figure unchallenged even by Republicans.



    cheerie stuff from Krugman (none / 0) (#95)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:04:32 PM EST
    We're in the midst of a global food crisis -- the second in three years. World food prices hit a record in January, driven by huge increases in the prices of wheat, corn, sugar and oils. These soaring prices have had only a modest effect on U.S. inflation, which is still low by historical standards, but they're having a brutal impact on the world's poor, who spend much if not most of their income on basic foodstuffs.

    The consequences of this food crisis go far beyond economics. After all, the big question about uprisings against corrupt and oppressive regimes in the Middle East isn't so much why they're happening as why they're happening now. And there's little question that sky-high food prices have been an important trigger for popular rage.

    So what's behind the price spike? ... But the evidence tells a different, much more ominous story. While several factors have contributed to soaring food prices, what really stands out is the extent to which severe weather events have disrupted agricultural production. And these severe weather events are exactly the kind of thing we'd expect to see as rising concentrations of greenhouse gases change our climate -- which means that the current food price surge may be just the beginning.



    Did you hear the Al Jazeera piece (none / 0) (#98)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:16:09 PM EST
    about food shortage/price increases yesterday?  Corn being processed for ethanol instead of as food supply.  One main point:  ask people in Africa if they believe there has been climate change.  No equivocation:  yes.  

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    I did (none / 0) (#99)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:21:30 PM EST
    its is beyond sad and disturbing that petty politics has taken control of such an important issue in this country.  

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    A friend told me I was really missing (none / 0) (#101)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:29:32 PM EST
    what was happening in Egypt because I don't watch CNN.  I disagreed.  

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    BAHAHA (none / 0) (#102)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 at 01:30:08 PM EST
    wow

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