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A Problem With Women At National Review

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:18:16 AM EST
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Via Atrios, Media Matters reports on NRO's sexism:

[T]he problem is not with women leaders — the enemies of the Virgin Queen and the Iron Lady can attest to that. The problem is not even with the president having strong female subordinates. Rather, Obama's pusillanimity has been hugely magnified by the contrast with the women directing his foreign policy and the fact that they nagged him to attack Libya until he gave in. Maybe it's unfair and there shouldn't be any difference from having a male secretary of state do the same thing, but there is.

The title of the piece - They Know Who Wears the Pants in This Country. Nice.

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    When it comes to the obambi administration (1.00 / 2) (#6)
    by Bornagaindem on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:42:24 AM EST
    someone has to wear the pants so if it is the women I say good for them.

    Calling it nagging him into it is of course where the real problem lies.

    "wear the pants?" (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:46:28 AM EST
    Sheesh.

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    it was the title of the piece after all (none / 0) (#19)
    by Bornagaindem on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 05:12:42 PM EST


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    Indeed (none / 0) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 05:34:26 PM EST
    A further indictment of your comment.


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    I am a woman and am not offended by the use of (none / 0) (#22)
    by Bornagaindem on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 12:38:05 PM EST
    wearing the pants. As much as we would like to think that we live in a society where being male or female doesn't matter it does- tremendously. I am though not in the cadre of people who think that if we simply start using chairperson rather than chairman that things are going to get better and so I sometimes use common terms like "wearing the pants" when referring to making decisions although in this case it was based on the fact that the title of the article said that.

     I much prefer remedies such as the old star wars series where every officer  was referred to as sir whether they were a male or a female.  

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    I think you mean Star Trek (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 01:39:14 PM EST
    but in addition the women got to wear those cute little mini dresses.

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    I am no fan of O's (5.00 / 0) (#14)
    by sj on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 12:54:42 PM EST
    but even I'm offended by the Obambi moniker that you just can't let go of.  It's as childish and offensive as the term "rethuglian".  Or as offensive as the implication in "nagging him into it".

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    Interesting (none / 0) (#12)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 12:20:28 PM EST
    so prior to this would you say Obama had a generally pacifist bent to his Foriegn Policy? And if so what are you smoking? I mean he's not Bush II but Bush II wasn't normal he was an aberration that pushed the US near to rouge state status- Obama's the post-coldwar consensus.

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    No I'd say Obama doesn't know how to make (none / 0) (#18)
    by Bornagaindem on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 05:11:22 PM EST
    decisions. So if we are at war we will remain at war until someone pushes him to do something else. It is like inertia. He couldn't make a decision to help the Libyans and so others had to make the decision for him.

    I read somewhere that Clinton doesn't want to stay in the administration because she can't  stand working for someone who can't make up his mind whether it is Tuesday or Wednesday. I'd say that about sums him up.

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    Right... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Thanin on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 05:04:03 PM EST
    because no administration could ever be successful if they all wore dresses...

    Pathetic

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    No, no (none / 0) (#1)
    by jbindc on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:21:07 AM EST
    They LOVE Maggie Thatcher.

    And of course, there's K-Lo.

    this stuff (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:26:41 AM EST
    would never be said, by anyone, about a conservative woman.

    This stuff should never be said (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:30:29 AM EST


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    of course not (none / 0) (#5)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:35:14 AM EST
    but like we were saying the other day.  there are all kinds of double standards for liberal vs conservative women.  these same people would be losing their minds if someone said this about some conservative female office holder.

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    Not understanding your point (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:47:05 AM EST
    I suggest you see my lastest post if you think this is just a problem on the right.

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    Well said. (none / 0) (#24)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 02:27:59 PM EST


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    Haha (none / 0) (#4)
    by lilburro on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:35:08 AM EST
    But does anyone think our enemies abroad are as enlightened as we are about feminism?

    Yes...you are the definition of enlightened Krikorian (esp. with that intro!)

    Krikorian's column would've been better saved for his therapist.

    Obama (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 11:51:19 AM EST
    has always been a milquetoast but they certainly didn't complain about his milquetoast ways when he did "the deal" (conservatives that is).

    The real problem isn't that Hillary, Samantha et al did what they did so much as Obama 1. has NO core values anyway and 2. as I said above, he's pure milquetoast.

    Where do you get the milquetoast thing (none / 0) (#11)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 12:18:47 PM EST
     its basically the same stupid criticism Clinton and Bush I got about there Foriegn Policy because they wouldn't do something stupid and abandon the hard won International Regime structure.

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    Obama (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 12:53:44 PM EST
    himself has portrayed the "milquetoast" persona with his absolute inability to negotiate anything. I mean who else gives away the store before showing up at the table other than a milquetoast?

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    Isn't Neoliberal (none / 0) (#10)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 12:17:20 PM EST
    International Relations with a strong tendency towards working within (and to strengthen) existing structural arrangments kind of what Obama ran on in terms of foriegn policy-- you know a return to the Bush I/Clinton post-Cold War model, aka exactly what's happening here? If that's the case how exactly is he being pushed into anything?

    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 01:33:01 PM EST


    If he'd listened to McCain... (none / 0) (#21)
    by diogenes on Tue Mar 22, 2011 at 07:07:06 PM EST
    Then Obama would have set up a no-fly zone weeks ago when the rebels were ready to topple Gaddhifi, and the end game would be clear.
    That's what comes from not listening to old white guys.

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