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    had to happen I guess (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 11:41:43 AM EST
    "UP" inspired floating house

    Yesterday morning, March 5 at dawn, National Geographic Channel and a team of scientists, engineers, and two world-class balloon pilots successfully launched a 16' X 16' house 18' tall with 300 8' colored weather balloons from a private airfield east of Los Angeles, and set a new world record for the largest balloon cluster flight ever attempted. The entire experimental aircraft was more than 10 stories high, reached an altitude of over 10,000 feet, and flew for approximately one hour.

    lots of great pics at the link

    Now that just brings a smile (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by ruffian on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:32:15 PM EST
    I don't know if it has any redeeming social value, but I like it.

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    agreed (none / 0) (#60)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:21:30 PM EST
    something about a house hanging from colored balloons.

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    great (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 11:49:33 AM EST
    announcer covering a horse race with a horse named

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    Padres home opener: April 5. (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 11:53:43 AM EST


    Misery loves company... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 01:46:04 PM EST
    The Wilpons are the McCourts only rival in dog doo-doo ownership sweepstakes...less drama, but more ineptitude.

    The running meme in Muttsville is if the Madoff thing forces the Wilpons to sell the team, Bernie Madoff's bronze head should be inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame post-haste!  It will be the best thing to happen to the franchise since the '86 Series.

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    You'll be fine. Afterall, you've got (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 01:43:15 PM EST
    T. Gwynn, Jr.  

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    Ha! (none / 0) (#16)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 01:58:05 PM EST
    If I was Tony Gwynn I'd be checking for a resemblance between his boy and his mailman of 25 years ago:)

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    That's mean (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:40:17 PM EST
    Fair enough you guys... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:42:56 PM EST
    Besides, Ted Williams Jr. is a more likely mailman's kid suspect...that apple fell really far:)

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    T. Gwynn, Jr. looks quite a bit like (none / 0) (#123)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 06:23:23 PM EST
    the college basketball/baseball player T. Gwynn, Sr.  Although it is kind of hard to tell w/Sr.'s Afro.

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    this is great (none / 0) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:01:25 PM EST
    saw this link on a right wing site:

    DONT MAKE US PAY


    In December, the government issued a new regulation that will create price controls on what merchants pay to accept debit cards.  As a result, community banks and credit unions may be forced to raise fees, decrease rewards, and put more restrictions on debit card users.

    Washington bureaucrats shouldn't be setting prices in a free market - especially when consumers are the ones who will have to deal with the consequences.

    YES!leave is banks alone.

    this (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:36:23 PM EST
    must be why businesses like Target now have their own debit card?

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    Death row inmate (none / 0) (#5)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:05:58 PM EST
    Gets a little help from the Supremes

    WASHINGTON -- In a case involving a Texas death row inmate, the Supreme Court on Monday opened up a new avenue for prisoners to seek access to DNA evidence when they believe it could help establish their innocence.

    The court's narrow, 6-3 ruling means that Hank Skinner, who was about an hour away from execution when the Supreme Court intervened last year, will be not executed in the near future while his legal case continues.

    The court ruled that prisoners may file federal civil rights lawsuits to get DNA material. But at the same time, the court's decision suggests that all a prisoner can claim is that a state failed to follow its own rules for access to DNA evidence. The court's decision today does not recognize a broad constitutional right to seek DNA material.

    What it means, as a practical matter, is that when prisoners claim they've been improperly allow access to DNA testing, they have a method for trying to get it that buys them more time.



    Gadhafi (none / 0) (#6)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:08:26 PM EST
    ordered Pan-Am bombing, so says ex-CIA official.

    Color me shocked.

    According to the Clowns that... (none / 0) (#7)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:36:20 PM EST
    ... claimed Saddam had WMD's and suggested mushroom clouds.

    Sorry, but any claim by the CIA needs a lot of scrutiny, especially when the claim in made at an very opportunistic time.

    Sorry, but this is wayyyyyyy to convenient.  Where was the claim when the bomber was released back into Qaddafi's care ?

    I call BS, not that he was behind it, he probably was, but that the CIA actually knows.

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    I kind of thought (none / 0) (#126)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 08:58:42 PM EST
    it was pretty much known and proven by the early 90s only both US and British governments essentially gave Libya a pass because of all that sweet, sweet oil and the precedent it would set to let lawsuits against Libya by the families of the Victims of Pan Am 103  stand.

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    I'd still feel comfortable (none / 0) (#18)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:02:05 PM EST
    Betting you all the money in the world that Gadafi was behind it.  No matter your opinion of the CIA.

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    As I understand it (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by christinep on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:11:59 PM EST
    the PanAm event pointed to Gaddafi/Qaddafi for some time...independent of CIA's conclusion.

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    For all we know... (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:43:29 PM EST
    the Charlie Sheen of Libya has been working for the CIA for the past 30 years.

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    Or, for all we know (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:48:48 PM EST
    Charlie Sheen has been working for the CIA.

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    Heavy... (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:51:47 PM EST
    What could Charlie's black-op be?  Weapon of Mass Distraction?

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    For the best Don... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:38:22 PM EST
    we wouldn't wanna jeapordize our amateur a-hole status by going pro:)

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    Keeping your amateur status (none / 0) (#46)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:39:20 PM EST
    to compete in the Olympics?  :)

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    I think that's it (none / 0) (#30)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:03:16 PM EST
    What have people been talking about and what has the news been focusing on?  Wisconsin has kinda fallen off the radar, and Libya - well, it's just mentioned now.

    But Charlie Sheen is a good distraction.

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    Could be... (none / 0) (#31)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:12:59 PM EST
    or maybe he's buying in such bulk he qualified to buy direct from the CIA under their preferred customer program.

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    He is (none / 0) (#32)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:17:09 PM EST
    A one-man economic stimulus program.

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    In all seriousness... (none / 0) (#33)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:20:13 PM EST
    if Charlie puts together a third party run in 2012, I'd be hard pressed not to vote for him...no brainer in a 3-way Obama/Romney/Sheen ticket.

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    Oh dear. (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:21:51 PM EST
    the last installment of our game (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:26:18 PM EST
    got Gary Busey to do the marketing.

    I could see them getting Charlie this time.

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    just heard that (none / 0) (#62)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:32:19 PM EST
    I have to say.  he was sounding a little like the crazy uncle who is better kept locked in the attic in a couple of those interviews.

    it was not just the Skeletor look.  

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    Let's see (none / 0) (#64)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:33:13 PM EST
    If he can distract as long as Lindsay Lohan.

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    this whole recent (none / 0) (#67)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:43:52 PM EST
    thing seems a little like a cry for help.

    "help me I am drowning in hot women money and drugs"

    help you, he said.  how about I replace you?


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    heh (none / 0) (#70)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:51:33 PM EST
    I guess he did.  I was thinking more like replace you like, I will take your place.  

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    who said it (none / 0) (#73)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:17:13 PM EST
    Charlie or Hunter Thompson?

    I got 12 out of 15 correct.

    my favorite quote.  
    (I knew this one)

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"


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    most are pretty easy (none / 0) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:18:45 PM EST
    they may both be druggies but Hunter is more articulate.

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    or (none / 0) (#75)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:18:58 PM EST
    was
    I should say.

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    I prefer your purer (none / 0) (#43)
    by jondee on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:37:33 PM EST
    Gandhiesque as*holery to theirs, Don..

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    He's the tester (none / 0) (#127)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 08:59:42 PM EST
    for CIA imported Coke- the good stuff goes to his frineds the bad stuff gets cooked and sold as crack.

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    Final 4 in Houston... (none / 0) (#8)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:39:25 PM EST
    Can not wait.

    Big East Tourney... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 12:43:44 PM EST
    bracket is out...Johnnies face the winner of Seton Hall v Rutgers on Wed., and face Syracuse should they advance to the quarterfinals.  I like the draw.

    Went to Senior Night on Saturday vs. USF, scary close first half, Johnnies pulled away in the second...good times, but I left my Steve Lavin bobblehead giveaway under my seat:(

    Funny (none / 0) (#39)
    by ruffian on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:26:21 PM EST
    I live in FL and I thought he was talking about University of San Francisco too!

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    And here I thought... (none / 0) (#48)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:39:42 PM EST
    the University of San Francisco was the cop spot in the Haight.

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    not a Tom Cruise fan at all (none / 0) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 01:16:52 PM EST
    but I am sort of starting to look forward to this:

    Simon Pegg Calls `Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol' A Rebirth; Praises Brad Bird

    I think you're right, when a film goes into number four you're like, `Isn't this just like flogging a dead horse now?' But what they've done is they've brought in a director who's never done live action before but who's had a 100 percent hit rate for his previous movies: Ratatouille, The Incredibles, and The Iron Giant are all just five star films. Brad has just brought that sensibility to this film. And the fact that's it's Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, it's not Mission Impossible 4.


    really to bad (none / 0) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 01:52:27 PM EST
    Ensign to Announce Retirement

    Sen. John Ensign is expected to announce at an afternoon news conference in Las Vegas that he will retire rather than face a brutal 2012 re-election campaign, according to knowledgeable sources.


    "anti-appropriations committee" (none / 0) (#17)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:00:25 PM EST
    this is not from the onion:

    Orrin Hatch, Mark Udall back anti-appropriations committee in Senate


    In a major development on spending cuts, Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah and Democratic Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado are introducing a proposal for a new congressional committee focused only on eliminating duplicative and wasteful government spending.



    interesting article (none / 0) (#20)
    by CST on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:13:55 PM EST
    in the times about the next generation of farmers.

    With an ever expanding market for local and organic produce, young people are more interested in farming than ever before.  One of the major issues is - they don't know what they're doing, or how to do it.

    "There is a knowledge gap that has been referred to as "the lost generation" -- people their parents' age may farm but do not know how to grow food. The grandparent generation is no longer around to teach them."

    That's sad (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:16:08 PM EST
    They can come on up here (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Zorba on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 02:41:49 PM EST
    And we'll teach them.  We've raised beef, grown our own hay to feed the cattle, and have a huge garden and a variety of fruit trees and berries.  My husband also knows how to brew beer and make mead.  And I can teach them how to can and freeze their produce, as well.  Oh, and we can teach them about using a smoker to smoke meats and fish.  

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    and all of that is (none / 0) (#29)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:02:55 PM EST
    on the internets.  a personal garden is not hard at all.  that is its not complicated.  its a lot of work.

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    that's (none / 0) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:39:25 PM EST
    what I was thinking. So what if they don't know. they can learn. People aren't born knowing how to farm. My grandfather certainly wasn't. he learned it albeit at a younger age than this group but it was still learned nonetheless.

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    well and if you read the article (none / 0) (#52)
    by CST on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:48:48 PM EST
    you will see that that's what's happening.

    I just thought it was an interesting dynamic that farming essentially skipped a generation.

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    That's (none / 0) (#53)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:58:44 PM EST
    a really neat article. Thanks for linking. I'm glad to see young people picking up farming but kind of sad that their grandparents aren't around to impart a lot of their knowledge and wisdom to them.

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    also I think it depends (none / 0) (#55)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:00:08 PM EST
    some on where you are.  gardens never went out of style in the country.
    everybody pretty much still has one.

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    my mom has always had (none / 0) (#57)
    by CST on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:07:24 PM EST
    a garden, at times rather large, and this is in the city where the junk in the soil will kill your food.

    But 20 straight years of fertilization and soil replacement will do wonders.  I never knew about all that so when I moved, I tried to start a garden only to find out that $hit just won't grow in that soil...  I guess we could spend years re-habbing the ground back to fruition, but we are renters and honestly just not that motivated since we may not be there long enough to reap the benefits.

    So now we are stuck with a few planters and small pots for herbs.  But I am definitely seeing more and more local produce available at stores, and CSAs popping up all over the place.

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    it was (none / 0) (#54)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:58:59 PM EST
    interesting.  we were sort of talking about two different things I think.  that seemed to be about farming to sell.  
    gardening is more about farming to eat.


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    We've done both (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Zorba on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:09:06 PM EST
    We bred, raised, and marketed our beef cattle.  Castrated our own male calves.  Doctored them when they were sick.  And I had never done any farming in my life.  My husband had helped some on his uncle's farm in the summer when he was young, but that's it.  We asked friends and neighbors who farmed, and they gave us lots of good advice.  (BTW, when you have a bull that is breeding the cows in the field in back of the house, the kids learn about sex education very early.)  What we really didn't realize at the time is that we were essentially growing "organic beef."  They were free-range, ate only our own hay and our own grass, no hormones, no antibiotics, we used no chemicals on the hay fields or pastures.  We could have made a whole lot more money, I suppose, by getting an "organic" designation for them, but on the other hand, "organic" wasn't as popular back then as it is now.

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    it was the same (5.00 / 0) (#59)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:12:31 PM EST
    with my sisters family that I got to live next door to, and reap all the benefits of, when I got to live in arkansas.  they have cows and chickens and horses and pigs.  all on a pretty small piece of land and its not like you smell the pigs.

    I loved having the horses over the fence from my backyard most of all.  horses are great.  theirs were like big dogs.  one would have sat in your lap is he could.

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    horses (5.00 / 0) (#65)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:34:23 PM EST
    Zorba (none / 0) (#112)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:34:42 PM EST
    I was born and raised on a farm in Wisconsin.  I think your farm history is missing one huge factor, organics.  Back when I was on the farm, fertilizers, weed killers, hormones, and a whole host of other no-no's were used extensively.  Not so with the organic farmer, which I might add relies on day labors almost exclusively to do what chemicals did back when we were on the farm and still do on the non-organic farms.

    I haven't lived there in 20 years, but I could do it, fairly easily, so long as my dad was giving me advise.  He stopped with the animals long ago and only cash crops.  His biggest crop is soybeans, which is a mystery to me.  The learning is the easy part, the work is the hard, and instinct is crucial and not something a lot of people have.

    You need to accurately predict the weather, my Dad is so spot on, that it's rare if crops suffer weather damage, or don't get planted/harvested on time.  He's got all kinds of old times tricks, from looking at cloud formations, to checking the dew, to an endless database of knowledge on can only attain through trial and error.  One wrong call on a start up, and the bank is auctioning your farm.  Seen it over and over when I was a kid.  You know, harvest corn to soon and it molds, harvest wet hay, barn fire, and on and on, stuff you can only learn with experience.

    I think anyone that takes farm as a job is crazy, even my pops had a regular job, farming ~400 acres was his side job/hobby.

    I remember castrations as well, what a fricken circus.  The strength of the laziest animal on earth is amazing.  Butchering chickens, I remember my grandma tossing headless chickens in our direction and everyone thinking it was soooo funny watching little kids getting chased by decapitate chickens.  To this day, I will not eat chicken, no birds for Scott.  But the odd thing is I eat beef and they were slaughtered right there in front of me, twitching legs and all.

    I hated all of it, not because the work was hard, but because everything is dirty, from dust to hay to manure to everything, if you are farming you are dirty.

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    Gaddafi offered resignation for security (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:20:48 PM EST
    Al-Sharq al-Awsat reports Libyan leader wants rebels to drop demands to try him in international court, guarantee his security as well as that of his family and funds in exchange for his departure from country

    ??????

    Screening of `A Serbian Film' (none / 0) (#36)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:22:55 PM EST
    Might Get Film Festival Director Cited For Child Pornography

    At last year's South by Southwest, one of the most talked about films was A Serbian Film. Directed by Srdjan Spasojevic, it's about a former Serbian porn star who is seduced back into the business but gets in way over his head. From there, the film goes to some of the deepest, darkest places imaginable: pedophilia, necrophilia and worse. It's sadistic, incredibly offensive and, looked at in a certain light, highly provocative.

    However, the October 2010 screening of the film at the Sitges Film Festival in Spain took the controversy over the top. Subsequent to the screening, a Barcelona prosecutor filed a complaint against festival director Angel Sala accusing him of exhibiting child pornography, and the details of the suit are now emerging.

    I've seen A Serbian Film and the images will never be erased from my mind. And while I feel like the film's subtext, about the Serbian government and their control over their people, is completely and totally lost because of the diagetic action, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be seen. Do I think the film is a failure? Yes. But if I was a festival director, of course I'd try to show the movie. It's an instant, controversial conversation starter. Also, it's not like the film was shown in the middle of the afternoon to a room full of children. It played late night in adults-only sessions. Precautions were taken.



    We're over 1000 now (none / 0) (#37)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:22:58 PM EST
    One year waivers, that is, for companies to adhere to HCR.

    Loved my trip there in 2001 (none / 0) (#51)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 03:48:32 PM EST
    We were only there overnight, but we drove down Chain of Craters Road at night and walked out to see the lava flowing.  Very cool.

    Makes you feel very small when you see the awesome power of nature like that.

    alas (none / 0) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 04:53:51 PM EST
    no checkpoint cheesehead

    Wisconsin gov: Democratic senator's border meeting idea 'ridiculous'

    it was a great idea I thought.

    Of course, it was. But Walker (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by Towanda on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:23:44 PM EST
    is not at all interested in negotiating, in budging on his so-called budget bill about the non-budget items like little old rights (since all of the budget items already have been conceded).  He wants it all because, y'know, elections have consequences.

    And he seems entirely impervious to the polls that are dropping, dropping for him by the day because, y'know, not giving a darn thing to get government going there again has consequences, too.  

    So it becomes more clear by the day that, so I have read, he is not worried a bit about re-election as governor.  He won't fill out the term -- he is going for the Senate seat.  Heaven help us all.

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    Walker offered to do a meeting (2.00 / 1) (#81)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:15:45 PM EST
    the day before.

    Lots of games being played.

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    Source? (none / 0) (#82)
    by Towanda on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:38:17 PM EST
    Haven't seen that anywhere, and I've been reading a lot on this.

    The day before, he was in Madison for the Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity tour, after that was inflicted on Wisconsinites all across the state.

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    Heard it on the radio (none / 0) (#84)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:49:33 PM EST
    He offered to send two staffers to meet and talk.

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    Oh. Not Walker. (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by Towanda on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 08:42:15 PM EST
    Not quite the same, now, is it?  "My staffers will meet your staffers at the Mars Cheese Castle."

    Uh huh.  More of Walker's passive-aggressive games.

    The Wisconsin 14 are state Senators, elected officials, too, who didn't talk about dumping this on their staffers.

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    If the Dems had wanted (none / 0) (#87)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 09:34:52 AM EST
    to talk a meeting with the Guv's staffers would have started things rolling.

    After all, he was elected by a majority of all the people, they were not.

    Of course, if they felt slighted they could have sent their staffers.

    Then again their staffers were probably busy demonstrating inside the capital.

    I think they are the ones beating the tom-toms.

    ;-)

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    Governor Liar? (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 09:45:15 AM EST

    In the presser, Walker made the surprising claim that two senate Democrats were privately negotiating with him and senate Republicans to reach a deal to end the impasse. As Eric Kleefeld reports, Walker singled out Dem senators Tim Cullen and Bob Jauch, claiming that they had met with Walker and Republicans near the Illinois state line in an effort to reach some kind of compromise. Walker then charged that Dem leaders keep blocking these efforts.

    But in going public with this claim about Cullen and Jauch, Walker has only succeeded in antagonizing them and making them less inclined to deal with him, senator Chris Larson just told me in an interview.

    "Walker just knocked down the last two people who thought Walker could be reasonable," said Larson, who said he had heard this directly from the senators in question on a call after the Walker presser. "He threw those two guys under the bus. It hardened their resolve."

    Jauch himself has adamantly denied Walker's characterization of ongoing discussions, saying he has not been trying to reach a deal with the governor independent of other Dems.


    Click or Plum Line Me

    No charge for the information  :-)

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    Who do you trust? (none / 0) (#89)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:13:54 AM EST
    Supposedly Walker lied about something that would be immediately denied???

    Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Pick something that passes the smell test.

    Walker is guilty of telling the truth when the Demos didn't want to be singled out.

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    Sure, he's not that stupid (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:25:36 AM EST
    unless he is that stupid, and his lies have gone undetected in the past:

    Walker: His bill is about fixing a budget crisis.

    The truth: Even Fox News' Shepherd Smith couldn't swallow that one, declaring that it's all about politics and union busting, and "to pretend that this is about a fiscal crisis in the state of Wisconsin is malarkey."

    Walker: says he campaigned on his budget repair plan, including curtailing collective bargaining.

        "We introduced a measure last week, a measure I ran on during the campaign, a measure I talked about in November during the transition, a measure I talked about in December when we fought off the employee contracts, an idea I talked about in the inauguration, an idea I talked about in the state of the state. If anyone doesn't know what's coming, they've been asleep for the past two years."

    The truth: Walker, who offered many specific proposals during the campaign, did not go public with even the sketchiest outline of his far-reaching  plans to kill collective bargaining rights. He could not point to any statements where he did.  In fact, he was caught on tape boasting to what he thought was his billionaire backer that he had "dropped the bomb."

    Walker: keeps saying that "almost all" of the protesters at the Capitol are from outside the state

    The truth: "The vast majority of people protesting are from here -- Wisconsin and even more from Dane County," said Joel DeSpain, public information officer for the Madison Police Department.



    Click or 20 Lies and Counting Me

    And you have to do it the Michael Kinsley way, "Oh, Please!" if you want to have a future in entertainment, PPJ, outside of the amusement you give some of the folks around here on occasion, albeit, unwittingly.

    As Shep put it himself:

    SHEP SMITH: First to Wisconsin, where the governor, Scott Walker, is making good on his threat to start sending out lay-off notices if the Senate didn't passed his so-called budget-repair bill by today.  One of the "repairs" it would make is to end most collective-bargaining rights for most government workers: that's no repair to them.



    Click or Newsbust Me

    So, I should believe you over a Fox News person, PPJ?

    Interesting choice to be made here.............

    Again, no charge for the information.

    ;-)

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    Why would anyone trust Walker? (none / 0) (#100)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:01:17 PM EST
    Given his history of lies on this issue, the question is why would anyone believe him.

    Another whopper.

    Yet another.

    ... and another.

    Anyone with a modicum of sense would have to be skeptical of anything Walker says at this point.

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    Too bad (none / 0) (#120)
    by jbindc on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 03:15:00 PM EST
    Those pesky Republican Wisconsin State Senators don't have clean hands when it comes to bilking the taxpayers.  But we all know it's government union employees who are the problem!

    WASHINGTON -- At least three of the Wisconsin state Senate Republicans currently demanding that public workers sacrifice benefits, wages and even collective bargaining rights for the sake of the budget have applied for and received hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal farm subsidies, a Huffington Post review of state and federal records shows.

    From 1995 through 2009, state Sens. Luther Olsen, Dale Schultz and Sheila Harsdorf all had stakes in farms that received between them more than $300,000 in taxpayer funds.

    Those federal appropriations had no direct impact on the state's current budget woes, but the cash spent on those subsidies, which went to support a range of functions -- from soybean production to small hog operations -- could have been used elsewhere, perhaps even in Wisconsin. More than that, critics say, it muddles the notion, pushed by these lawmakers and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), that only they are serious about reining in an overextended, overspent government.



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    very cool (none / 0) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:00:28 PM EST
    ok (none / 0) (#77)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:26:12 PM EST
    definitely the cutest thing ever.

    slow loris with umbrella.

    its even better than this

    Military tribunals to resume at Gitmo (none / 0) (#78)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 05:36:00 PM EST
    by presidential order.

    Under Obama's order, Defense Secretary Robert Gates will rescind his January 2009 ban against bringing new cases against the terror suspects at the detention facility.

    The first trial likely to proceed under Obama's new order would involve Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the alleged mastermind of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole. Al-Nashiri, a Saudi of Yemeni descent, has been imprisoned at Guantanamo since 2006.

    Closure of the facility has become untenable because of questions about where terror suspects would be held. Lawmakers object to their transfer to U.S. federal courts, and Gates recently told lawmakers that it has become very difficult to release detainees to other countries because Congress has made that process more complicated.



    Joran van der Sloot (none / 0) (#79)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:00:06 PM EST
    More (none / 0) (#80)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:00:50 PM EST
    The "violent emotion" plea is typically used in Peru for crimes of passion where a spouse, for example, is surprised in the act of adultery.

    If it were to be accepted by a trial judge, Van der Sloot would be sentenced to 3 to 5 years, and Altez said his client could be freed in 20 months.



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    Paging kdog! (none / 0) (#83)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 06:39:10 PM EST
    The top 10 states with the most vice and the 10 states with the least vice.

    #1 is no surprise, but #2 was a bit surprising...

    Jersey... (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:47:39 AM EST
    # 2 state with least vice?  Not the NJ I've seen!

    I'm forced to question their algorithm:)

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    i think they go by (none / 0) (#99)
    by CST on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 11:51:56 AM EST
    sales receipts, etc...

    Maybe everyone in Jersey is getting their vice on in NYC.

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    It's the opposite... (none / 0) (#108)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:19:54 PM EST
    for a gambling binge proper I gotta cross the Hudson to NJ or head north to CT.

    I wasn't suprised at all that NY didn't make top 10 or bottom 10...we're a vice-drenched state with vice friendly people, yet our state and local governments & law are very unfriendly to vice...probably the most unfriendly to vice local governments of all blue states, and even rivaling some fundamentalist christian red ones.

    And don't get me started on Guiliani/Bloomy and how they ruined Vice City...aka Times Square.  That place used to be special...  

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    you are not alone it would seem (none / 0) (#110)
    by CST on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:29:33 PM EST
    "The state is not in first place on this list because of its gambling problems, ranking 33rd highest in this category with 11 casinos."

    Oh man, and I caught this gem from our first place vice-free winner Utah:

    "it ranks in the best ten in every category but one. The state's one dark side is pornography.  5.49 out of every 1000 broadband users subscribe to pornography - easily the highest rate"

    "One major factor which may shape the state's rank is that most of its residents belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and therefore abstain from using alcohol or tobacco."

    For some reason I find this hilarious.

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    It is hilarious... (none / 0) (#113)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:40:38 PM EST
    Utah is so behind the vice curve they haven't realized nobody actually pays for pron anymore...people are giving it away.

    But I guess that nugget is not something they mention at Mormon services...that or our friends in Utah are into really freaky-deaky sh*t that is only available by subscription:)

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    Hey, hey, hey! (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 11:42:26 AM EST
    Fuh-GED-ah-bow-dit!

    Heck, if we got rid of the cast of Jersey Shore, we'd probably move up to #1 ...

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    Where were this list when I was (none / 0) (#90)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:15:01 AM EST
    young enough to care.

    ;-)

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    the trick jim (none / 0) (#92)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:34:02 AM EST
    is to ALWAYS be young enough to care.


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    Good luck with that! (none / 0) (#101)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:08:03 PM EST
    its working (none / 0) (#107)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:19:00 PM EST
    so far

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    Is that... (none / 0) (#109)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:20:50 PM EST
    tiger's blood coarsing through your veins my warlock friend?

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    nah (none / 0) (#114)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:48:10 PM EST
    just that of an irrepressible social malcontent.

    sfunny tho.  my 20 something coworkers make jokes about me and Keith Richards being indestructible.  being able to walk into burning buildings and stuff.

    amateurs.


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    Semi-relate... (none / 0) (#116)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 02:09:08 PM EST
    haven't been around the block as many times as you my friend...but I get the Ironlung and Physical Specimen jokes too from my breathren of lesser fortitude, particularly as I'm running them into the ground playing b-ball or futbol.

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    give it a few years (none / 0) (#117)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 02:14:44 PM EST
    like the Hunter Thompson quote I posted yesterday:

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"


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    At first I thought maybe kdog wrote (none / 0) (#124)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 06:33:00 PM EST
    that.

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    Gary Locke (none / 0) (#85)
    by jbindc on Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 07:06:37 PM EST
    Former governor of Washington, and current Secretary of Commerce, has been tapped to be the next ambassador to China.

    Mardi gras legal fact (none / 0) (#93)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:34:47 AM EST
    There is a "Coconut Bill" to Protect Zulu
    Used to be, Zulu riders threw their signature coconuts, and for many generations, that was just fine. Then America began its love-affair with personal injury lawsuits, and people started going to court to claim all manner of damage from coconut impacts. In 1987, the Krewe of Zulu couldn't get insurance coverage unless it stopped passing out coconuts. The next year, however, the Louisiana Legislature and Governor Edwards gave us SB188, AKA the "Coconut Bill," which excludes the coconut from personal injury as long as the coconuts are handed, rather than tossed out.
    Coconuts are hand painted by Krewe members and in many cases have become collector's items


    accidental truth (none / 0) (#94)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:37:26 AM EST
    NPR's then-senior vice president for fundraising Ron Schiller is seen and heard on a videotape released this morning telling two men who were posing as members of a fictitious Muslim Action Education Center that:

    -- "The Tea Party is fanatically involved in people's personal lives and very fundamental Christian -- I wouldn't even call it Christian. It's this weird evangelical kind of move."

    -- "Tea Party people" aren't "just Islamaphobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it's scary. They're seriously racist, racist people."



    The disgusting thing (none / 0) (#95)
    by sj on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:46:19 AM EST
    is that NPR, like everybody else, officially treat the tea party as if they should be taken seriously.

    His analysis is right on.  Too bad they won't share it.

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    hubge rowe about this (none / 0) (#97)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 10:50:57 AM EST
    top of the list on HotAir.

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    This was spoken (none / 0) (#102)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:18:14 PM EST
    by a a member of an organization that employees people who state that they hope the grandchildren of someone they disagree with dies of AIDS.

    I mean I just really want to take this guy seriously NOT!

    I add that he has never attended a Tea Party meeting and most likely knows no actual Tea Party people.

    Yet you take him as a serious commentator about a group of people?

    Really? You think that is a liberal thing to do?

    Have you forgotten these racist rantings?

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    You obvioulsy (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:27:04 PM EST
    haven't seen the GA Tea Party that the KKK attended. Or the confederate flags that they are always waving.

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    what you mean (none / 0) (#104)
    by CST on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 12:29:35 PM EST
    ghost costumes and "states rights" flags?

    heh

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    Here are a few photos from (none / 0) (#106)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:10:24 PM EST
    Tea Party protests:


    Image 1


    Image 2


    Image 3

     

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    Oustide of the fact that (none / 0) (#118)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 02:47:47 PM EST
    you have presented no proof that the signs were carried by actual members.... and that the KKK was invited....

    But I will say that if they do and if they were...

    They were not taxpayer funded and don't mention hanging, among other physical threats.

    I realize that when your Ox is being gored it is hard to understand that others might not want to have to purchase and then feed it.

    Time to cut the budget.

    We can let the NPR people meet the Tea Party people. Should be interesting.

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    A Ga Tea Party member (none / 0) (#119)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 03:09:03 PM EST
    Yeah (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 09, 2011 at 06:29:10 AM EST
    Herman Cain the sole African-American and apparently the only one with any guts to stand up to these people.

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    Re:Tea Party Protests (none / 0) (#121)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 05:53:56 PM EST

    Oustide of the fact that (none / 0) (#118)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 02:47:47 PM EST
    you have presented no proof that the signs were carried by actual members.... and that the KKK was invited....

    Actually, it was Ga6thDem who mentioned the KKK being present at a Georgia Tea Party meeting, so your beef on that front is with him, not me.

    As for proof:

    Google Image Search Racist Signs Tea Party Pictures

    I knew you'd be doubtful, so you can click the link, and learn the truth, as unpleasant as you may find it.

    You'll find them all in the third row of pictures, if you do so.

    This one here is more your style, PPJ, no racism involved IMHO.

    Again, no charge for the information.  

    :-)


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    BTW: No oxen were gored (none / 0) (#122)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 05:58:18 PM EST

    I haven't listened to NPR for years, because I live in a radio hole where it's hard to pick up at home, and that they've become so wishy-washy these days that I wish they would have no Federal funding whatsoever so that people like you would find other things to b*tch and moan about instead.

    But thanks for trying to understand me, you'll get it right one of these years.

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    Breitbart's bigoted BS as evidence. (none / 0) (#125)
    by getoffamycloud10 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 07:53:26 PM EST
    Breitbart's bigoted BS as evidence.

    That's a good one. You can chalk that one up as a win in charlie sheen speak.

    Just when it appears you've hit bottom ya manage to drain just a wee bit more from the bottom of the pool.

    Always a pleasure.

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    I take him as a fundraiser (none / 0) (#128)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 09:03:12 PM EST
    who is willing to tolerate a lot and humor prospective donors in exchange for no-strings-attatched funding.

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    And did he accept their offer? (none / 0) (#130)
    by getoffamycloud10 on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 09:50:52 PM EST
    That's what I thought.

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#105)
    by CST on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:03:18 PM EST
    Obama is in town today.  And he's visiting my neighborhood to talk to some high school kids.

    Two articles about his visit in the globe today, one about the school he is visiting, the other about the apartment he used to live in during his harvard years.

    Some interesting exerpts:

    "Since 2002, the school has drawn from the populations that traditionally struggle in the classroom, students from tough neighborhoods and low-income backgrounds. Many have special needs and one-third come from homes where English is not the first language.

    But performance measures at TechBoston have soared. The 83 percent graduation rate is 20 percentage points higher than the citywide average."

    It goes on to mention that this happened because the Gates's threw a ton of money at it, and Melinda will be visiting as well.  Still, a nice success story. From the other article:

    "John Adams had a mansion in Quincy. John F. Kennedy had a compound in Hyannis. Barack Obama has the basement apartment in Somerville ... in the Winter Hill neighborhood better known for organized crime"

    What exactly (none / 0) (#111)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:30:08 PM EST
    is Tech Boston? The article never really states whether it's a charter school or whether it's a public school. Do you know?

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    It's a "pilot" school (none / 0) (#115)
    by CST on Tue Mar 08, 2011 at 01:51:27 PM EST
    Which according to wiki means "public schools that have been granted the flexibility to determine their own budgets, staffing, curricula, and scheduling but remain part of the local school district and subject to collectively-bargained pay scales and seniority protections"

    So it's essentially a charter school with unions.

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