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    It was nice to see this morning that (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 07:58:50 AM EST
    you will be a featured writer at DKos.  The future is daunting, we will need imagination.  The status quo isn't going to take us anywhere any of wants to go but more importantly where we need to go so that everyone can at least get a shot at having some quality of life.

    Cross-posting here I hope.... (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by magster on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:26:03 AM EST
    ... as wading through the comment threads there is tedious.  This will especially be true when the Obama supporters defend BTD calling out Obama's cave-du-jour.

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    BTD seems to be able to (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:35:35 AM EST
    handle that better.  For me there was a learning curve for the internet medium.  One thing I've noticed, whether I agree or disagree I can't wait to read what he has to say about things.  And he has proposed some unique solutions to a few issues.

    I think A LOT of people read him too over here and just didn't say anything, and they may not have commented but they read him.  It will be very noisy and crowded over there, so I hope he cross posts here a lot too.

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    A little dog humor (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by ruffian on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:41:34 AM EST
    Your laugh for the week. I think we need it. Watch the whole thing.

    German Shepherds (none / 0) (#27)
    by MKS on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:22:25 PM EST
    are awesome dogs.  So primal, fast, big, strong.....friggin' wolves they are....

    Great video...

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    They are so crazy (none / 0) (#55)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 05:01:25 AM EST
    It seems like the chasing down spraying water thing has a genetic component and does run in specific German Shepherd families so how funny that they are all three related.  Gorgeous dogs though, they have what is called great bone.  Their skeletal structure is large when you gauge the circumference of their leg bones.  We have lost some bone at times in America.  

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    Simple and to the point (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:11:38 AM EST
    The costs of our "wars"

    All the costs.  Somehow we talk of the costs of other things but wars are never talked in this way.  

    That really really (none / 0) (#48)
    by Amiss on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:10:46 PM EST
    ticks me off too. Not ONE peep about the costs of all the wars we are in that are absolutely NONE of our business. They still searching for WMD's in Iraq? And did Bin-Laden have an evil twin we havent known about all these years?

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    And I think today is going to be a (none / 0) (#2)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 08:27:17 AM EST
    horrible day for investors not so much because of any job report, but because rumors of EU bank insolvency and Bank of America means that credit could freeze AGAIN.  Already rumors of China pulling credit.

    A good example (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:36:51 AM EST
    of why long term investing is smarter and safer than day trading. (although admittedly it is still very early in the day)

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    to be fair MT (none / 0) (#16)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:26:44 AM EST
    I haven't a clue from day to day or I wouldn't have bought Friday while at the same time saying I should wait until Monday. (albeit for the long term the investment remains stable based on statistical evidence although not as good as it would have been had I waited until Monday)

    Large scale computer trading is what makes day trading so attractive to folks like you and me because there are instant swings up and down throughout the day that appear so predictable and inviting. In reality, we think our brain has predictive powers that it just doesn't possess, leading to far more ex-daytraders than potential Warren Buffett's.

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    I was gone all day (none / 0) (#56)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 05:02:51 AM EST
    How did it turn out?  I would lose everything trying to day trade.

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    Up (none / 0) (#59)
    by CoralGables on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 09:04:28 AM EST
    over 400 I think.

    I've failed to mention that I've enjoyed most all your posts the last few days. It's nice to see someone that doesn't believe in pixie dust cures for problems that have been years in the making.

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    Remember my main man... (none / 0) (#3)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:11:15 AM EST
    the Barefoot Bandit?  He just inked the the movie deal for his story, all proceeds to go towards restitution.

    I knew I liked this kid...hope the movie does his wild story justice, and that he doesn't get slammed at sentencing, he seems most remorseful.

    Remember to leave... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:33:09 AM EST
    your TL 4th Amendment Tote bag carry-on at home BTD, TSA hates to be reminded of their criminality.

    What's a 4th Amendment ? (none / 0) (#14)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 10:57:28 AM EST
    Weird thing when I went on vacation a couple weeks ago, both ways, one scanner of 4 or 5 was not being used.

    It was subtle and the only reason I noticed is because I am tall.  Both ways, same scanner, the one to the left the furthest.

    I don't think the equipment was down because they weren't patting people down, just directing them threw the metal detector.  Barely noticeable so the line wasn't any longer.

    The really odd thing, I had a TSA tag in my checked luggage both ways stating they went through it.  I have had them before, but maybe 1 out of 10 flights.  I take it back, the really odd thing was that my clothes were totally rearranged, yet repacked neatly.

    Maybe it's all coincidence, who knows, but it made my day, low expectations, to not be subjected to body scan or a pat down.

    I really wish I had taken some video footage pre- 9/11 because even thinking back, it's hard to imagine the security back them.  I remember going home from the military and getting waved through after mentioning I had steel toe boots, or having various people wait/meet me at the gate, or bringing my own booze on the plane and making mixers from a cooler with dry ice.  I can even remember smoking on a flight to California in the late 80's.

    Again, what is this 4th Amendment you speak of ?

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    Smoking on a plane... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:29:09 AM EST
    I wish I had Doc Brown's Delorian to enjoy some of that action:)  But that change stands up to reason at least.

    I sure do miss that pre-9/11 flying, what a breeze...got dropped off at Laguardia once for a early flight to FLA after an all night bender, totally sh*tfaced...so much so I forgot to stow my stash...cleaning out my pockets for the metal detector I just whip it out...look at the sack, look at the security guard, look at the sack and stick it back in my pocket...security guy just smiles and waves me past.  I owe that kind soul a drink:)

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    No You Don't (none / 0) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 03:35:36 PM EST
    Those flights were nasty, air travel in general was much more low class.  The only reason I brought booze is because it was a crapshoot, some planes has this or that, some charged, some cash, and they had yet to discover the art of plane/flight management.

    Security sucks, but in general, the rest of the system is a lot smoother, cleaner, and cheaper.  Efficiency I suspect parallels computing power in that industry very closely.  And in the late 80's, it was a disorganized mess.

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    Been watching UK coverage ... (none / 0) (#8)
    by Robot Porter on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:36:52 AM EST
    of their riots the last few days.  

    It's amazing to see them trotting out all the same lame "explanations" that were used in the eighties.  And acting like they are totally novel ideas. While, at the same time, trying to discredit anyone who draws comparison to virtually identical events in the eighties.  Or makes any political analysis.

    And, also like the eighties, the press is doing everything they can to stir up racial tensions.  It's really quite shameless.

    And, if past is prologue, and it always is, this will play right into the Tories hands.  And it really shouldn't.  It just shouldn't.

    I hope if similar events occur over here, and they well could, people will see through coverage like this.  But I wouldn't bet on it.

    It's like they're begging... (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:53:29 AM EST
    for continued unrest...dropping the tired iron fist instead of calls for reconciliation and redress...and ya get a load of the online petition to strip any convicted rioters of all government bennies?  

    That'll go over big in high unemployment areas if implemented...stupid, stupid, stupid.  But I guess its true that when your only tool is a hammer, ya treat everything like a nail.

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    The right wing loves it ! (none / 0) (#11)
    by Robot Porter on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 10:02:33 AM EST
    It's their perfect recipe.  Mix some fear-mongering with law and order demagoguery.  Season it with a dash of racism and xenophobia.  Then they sit back and watch their polls numbers rise and rise.
     

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    Yes, and criticisms (none / 0) (#13)
    by KeysDan on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 10:33:33 AM EST
    for a lack of assimilation would seem to be hampered by the stratified society. In actuality, it is no more likely for a little girl in this country to realize her dream of being head of state than UK; however, becoming Queen of England is known to be bloody out-of-reach.  And, an aspiration of becoming, say, Chancellor of the Exchequer, probably does not hold the same allure.

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    Just saw this this AM: (none / 0) (#33)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:58:51 PM EST
    One case dealt with was a 16-year-old boy who admitted trespassing at Swarowski jewellers in Manchester city centre with a view to steal.

    "I am sure looking at the horror on his mum's face when she heard what he had done, it will not be a pleasant return home for him"

    The boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, decided to go into the city centre after he received a Blackberry message saying "come to town". He was arrested as he attempted to flee the shop.

    His mother was in court where she heard her son say he knew he was wrong and was "caught up in the moment" as he unsuccessfully tried to prise open a cabinet.

    "Caught up in the moment."

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    He was "caught up" (none / 0) (#34)
    by jbindc on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    After receiving a text, getting himself downtown, walking into a jewelry store, and then attempting to steal something.

    Right.

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    Adjourning the case for reports and granting bail, district judge Khalid Qureshi said: "The aggravating feature is he has responded to a message. It was pre-planned, it was organised. He has then gone there to meet people.

    "He knew full well what was going on in the country. Somebody from the moon would be aware of what has been going on in the country.



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    I like the girl... (none / 0) (#36)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 01:14:39 PM EST
    I saw on the news last night, who said to a reporter "I'm getting my taxes back".

    Of course, the reporter made her out to be a regular Marcus Agius.

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    Lost me, who is Marcus Agius? (none / 0) (#37)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 01:20:21 PM EST
    Chairman of Barclays Bank... (none / 0) (#39)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 01:31:26 PM EST
    the Lex Luthor class of criminal like to keep low profiles.

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    Silly girl (none / 0) (#57)
    by jbindc on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 08:33:56 AM EST
    She's getting her taxes back - dumb comment.  Of course, what she doesn't realize is that her taxes will now go to pay for things like extra police and cleanup and won't go for things like, oh, helping solve the economic problems of the people in her neighborhood.

    Why does the media always find the idiots to interview?

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    I thought it was a good answer... (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 09:10:49 AM EST
    no taxation without representation...by that measure, only 1-5% of the world should be paying taxes cuz the top 1-5% are the only motherf*ckers gettin' some representation 'round here.

    What she done wrong was failing to perform her citizen's asset forfeiture with government property, to which she has a rightful claim imo.

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    Travel day Plus DK (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 10:18:21 AM EST
    is well nigh impossible to navigate via Blackberry.

    More Private Lock-ups Please (none / 0) (#18)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:29:15 AM EST
    Former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella Jr. was sentenced Thursday to 28 years in federal prison for taking $1 million in bribes from the builder of a pair of juvenile detention centers in a case that became known as "kids-for-cash."

    HERE

    How many kids does it take to generate a million dollar bribe ?  And the A-hole judge is still claiming the bribe was legal and had no effect on his judgment.  

    To be this clueless must be bliss.

    That's not clueless (none / 0) (#20)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:36:44 AM EST
    that's defending his honor in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. He's not clueless, just totally dishonest.

    His favorite country song is obviously "That's My Story".

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    PGA Championship (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:31:36 AM EST
    gets underway today. For those that are interested in the leaderboard rather than who will most likely be the hyped name this week, Steve Stricker takes an early 3 stroke lead after 10. For those interested in the player that makes the headlines even when in terminal meltdown, he's 11 shots off the pace after 13 holes and without some miracle turnaround will likely be home watching TV this weekend.

    Aside from the golfer-who-shall-not (none / 0) (#21)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 11:52:36 AM EST
    be-named seeming to be breaking down physically (which also makes me think about the PED rumors), I think the fact that no one fears him anymore has to be having an effect on his mental game.

    Honestly, if he keeps playing like this, the talk won't be about when or whether he will beat Nicklaus' record, but about when he's going to hang it up.  And it's not like he's old enough - or even close to being old enough - to find some refuge on the Senior Tour, either.

    I'd like to see him rebound enough so that he could - if he wanted to - retire or take an extended break with some dignity; it can't be easy after so many years of success to be staring at defeat in every aspect of his life.

    How's McIlroy looking?

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    Tiger will miss the cut (none / 0) (#22)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:00:34 PM EST
    That's my prediction.  He knows he doesn't intimidate anyone anymore, he's been exposed personally as no one would ever want to, his entire facade is gone forever.  I see him winning big late in his PGA career, and on the senior tour, with his son on the bag, after all this sh*t is long and past.  Don't know why, that's just the image I have.

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    He's done for the day (none / 0) (#29)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:33:51 PM EST
    14 shots behind the current leader who is still on the course, with many more that have yet to tee off. I feel like a rubbernecker at a car accident.

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    no interview after the round (none / 0) (#32)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:54:14 PM EST
    right to the range.  i don't think it'll help.  i agree about his mental game just not being there like it once was.  how could it ever be?  i mean, unless he's literally a sociopath, which i don't think he is obviously.  human frailty, gets the best of everyone eventually.  i still think he's going to pass Nicklaus in majors, don't know why, i just see an incredible late career run like no one has ever seen.  for whatever physical problems he has, it's still golf, he'll pull through, it's not like he's strapping it on at running back in the NFL every week.

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    Rory (none / 0) (#23)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:15:53 PM EST
    tees off in 35 minutes.

    As to he who shall not be named (I do love Harry Potter references) I've always had a theory on those that think they have hit bottom (me included). Folks rarely have a grasp on where the bottom is. When you "think" you've reached it, strap in because you still haven't hit the rocks.

    As for your theory, a mental crack coinciding with a physical breakdown can't be easy on the brain late at night.

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    McIlroy hurt (none / 0) (#50)
    by Amiss on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:16:27 PM EST
    his left wrist today, but has been assured he can play.

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    was Tiger's worst score ever at (none / 0) (#49)
    by Amiss on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:14:35 PM EST
    the PGA. Steve's little interview was a little over the top and uncalled for and Tiger took it with class. I know he has done a lot wrong in his life, but I cant help but blame most of that on his "hero" his father. After all the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

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    Except that Tiger is an adult (none / 0) (#53)
    by christinep on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 08:15:03 PM EST
    Whether he falls "close to the tree" doesn't matter, does it?  What matters is who he has beome & what he takes reponsibility for as a mature man?

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    You're a Dr. of what? P's & Q's? (none / 0) (#24)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:17:54 PM EST
    "Schultz, who earned a doctorate after writing a dissertation on the proper role of a university president's spouse..." (LINK)

    I shouldn't make fun, since I'm currently in the process of earning my doctorate in the science of corduroy dependency.

    ack, hit post accidentally (none / 0) (#25)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:19:48 PM EST
    Of course, I meant to add that the whole thing is hilarious, obviously, because the dude's in hot water for having a fling with the univ prez's wife.  This really can't be serious, can it?  i hope so.

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    Obviously (none / 0) (#26)
    by CoralGables on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:21:09 PM EST
    he takes his research seriously.

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    He was well positioned... (none / 0) (#30)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:42:18 PM EST
    ...to get the inside story.

    Ahem.

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    Maybe the question is... (none / 0) (#28)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:30:55 PM EST
    did the affair lead to the dissertation or did the "research" for the dissertation lead to the affair?

    Either way, and especially because it made me laugh, it beats the general doom and gloom and crepe-hanging over the economy...

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    Gotta be an onion piece, I thought (none / 0) (#31)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 12:50:37 PM EST
    Reminds me of the nutty history teacher I had at my hardcore evangelical high School, he of the "Just because the Declaration of Independence says all men are created equal doesn't mean GOD said it or intended it for his creation," who talked about working on his PhD in "how to run a biblically adherent athletic department at a christian high school."  Makes the proper role of a university president's spouse seem like physics comparatively.  

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    Pelosi announces her selections for (none / 0) (#35)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 01:01:16 PM EST
    the SuperCongress Committee:

    Jim Clyburn, Chris Van Hollen and Xavier Becerra.

    Her statement:

    "The Joint Select Committee has a golden opportunity to take its discussions to the higher ground of America's greatness and its values. It must meet the aspirations of the American people for success and keep America number one.

    "The thrust of the committee must be to grow an American prosperity enjoyed by all Americans. It must:

    • Focus on economic growth and job creation that reduces the deficit;
    • Make decisions regarding investments, cuts and revenues and their timing to stimulate growth while reducing the deficit; and
    • Increase demand by offering recommendations that ensure that wages grow with productivity and reduce America's families' dependence on credit.

    "The work of the Congress must go beyond the deliberations of the committee. Without waiting for the committee to complete its work, we should pass legislation for sustainable job creation. Congress should send to the President the long delayed highway and FAA bills, which generate hundreds of thousands of American jobs; and Congress should approve a national Infrastructure Bank to create jobs and improve our competitiveness.

    "We must achieve a `grand bargain' that reduces the deficit by addressing our entire budget, while strengthening Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Our entire Caucus will work closely with these three appointees toward this goal, which is the goal of the American people.

    "Because the work of this committee will affect all Americans, I called last week for its deliberations to be transparent; the committee should conduct its proceedings in the open."



    "balanced" (none / 0) (#40)
    by KeysDan on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 02:12:54 PM EST
    the big word in play for deficit/budgets does not seem to be in play for the make-up of Cat Food II membership: one Black, one Hispanic and one woman.  But, then, their work will be balanced only if you consider something like no revenue and all cuts balanced.   Hope Cat Food II has the same fate as
    Cat Food I.

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    One black, one Hispanic, one woman (none / 0) (#54)
    by shoephone on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 09:32:29 PM EST
    Golly, they're just like the Mod Squad! "One black, one white, one blonde."

    Julie: When I was growing up, my father used to lock me in the closet.

    Mike: At least you had a father.

    Linc: At least you had a closet.

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    Golly, gee, shoephone...you would have (none / 0) (#63)
    by christinep on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 02:22:36 PM EST
    preferred all white older men on the committee (aka Repub representatives?)

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    Where did I say that? (none / 0) (#64)
    by shoephone on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 02:40:04 PM EST
    My comment was ... a joke. (For those who are TV trivia buffs, as I am.)

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    Achtung kdog: (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 02:23:47 PM EST
    Village we visited today has pernabebt population of 300. Used to have police dept. but no longer as crime rate is too low to merit it.

    Also:  no internet connection for upcoming 24 hours. Damm fjiord!!!!

    Enjoy your 24 hrs... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 02:56:20 PM EST
    of internet silence...it's golden.

    And must know the name of this village!

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    No cops in my village (none / 0) (#45)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 04:01:23 PM EST
    either, or most rural VT communities.  Don't know about other rural states, but I assume it's the same.  No crime, no need.  Once every few years, there's a small burst of clumsy home burglaries and the county cops easily trace them to a handful of teenagers or young men, round them up, return the property, speak sternly to their parents, etc., and that's the end of it.

    VT's annual murder rate is something ridiculous like 8 or 9, almost all of them domestic or people otherwise entangled in each other's lives a little too deeply.  Literally nobody bothers to lock their doors or their cars.

    I used to think all that lyrical praise of small town American life was a buncha hooey, but it's not.

    Prolly way too quiet for you, kdog, but it sure is nice to have no worries about being burglarized or assaulted or ripped of by workmen or anything like that.


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    No wonder... (none / 0) (#46)
    by Dadler on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 04:16:48 PM EST
    ...I used to dream about living in Vermont when I was a miserable kid in the smog-encrusted sprawl of east L.A. county.  Last line of my little story I've been diddling on lately: "If I make it to eleven years old, I really want a book about Vermont for my birthday."

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    yup (none / 0) (#47)
    by CST on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:06:11 PM EST
    I remember a few years ago, they finally came out with street names in the town where my family lives in VT.  That's right, up until a few years ago there were none.  But they finally had to put them up so that they could get 911 service.  Of course, the road is now named after the biggest family that lived on it.

    Unfortunately the house was broken into and robbed two years ago. They took things that had virtually no monetary value at all but sentimental value to us.  They took really random stuff, like an old wall mounted phone that my grandfather had.  And a straw basket that my grandmother made for my parent's wedding.  They were hoping that maybe they would catch them if they tried selling the phone, since you don't see too many of those (maybe that had monetary value of some kind, who the heck knows), but alas nothing ever came of it.  I guess they decided to just keep it... It was really weird, and we were completely flabbergasted that something like that would even happen.

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    I remember those days (none / 0) (#52)
    by Amiss on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:38:34 PM EST
    growing up in my small hometown in North Fla. I long for those days. Actually my husband and I really enjoyed our time in New England and have been giving serious thought to Vermont. His younger years were spent in New Hampshire and we spent several pleasant years in Maine and I thoroughly enjoyed that time even with the snows. I had thought I would hate the snow there as I did in Michigan, but it was far different and pleasant.

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    kdog: Geiranger (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 03:49:40 PM EST
    Permanent pop. 300. Tourist season pop.: 600. But even the Queen Elizabeth II and the Norwegian king and queen come here in July-Aug.  Spectacular. But today's Austrian college student hike leader says he can't afford to buy a drink!

    Richard Clark accuses the CIA (none / 0) (#51)
    by oldpro on Thu Aug 11, 2011 at 05:17:17 PM EST
    of a coverup re 9/11.

    That addresses some unanswered questions which Tenet and others can only explain away as incompetence and ignorance.  While there's no denying both of those explanations cover a lot of ground year in and year out, in this case probably not.

    Michele Bachmann on being "submissive" (none / 0) (#58)
    by Yman on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 09:00:59 AM EST
    At last night's debate Michele Bachmann was asked about her prior statements re: being "submissive" to her husband and whether she would be submissive as President.  She said "submission" just means "respect" to them.

    Interesting definition.

    Good thing (none / 0) (#60)
    by jbindc on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 09:05:21 AM EST
    She won't really ever be President.

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    From your lips, ... (none / 0) (#61)
    by Yman on Fri Aug 12, 2011 at 09:10:38 AM EST
    ... to G0d's ears, ...

    ... to her husband's mouth (apparently).

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