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Watching tonight: The finale of the Next Food Network Star (go Susie or Jeff.) The season opener of the Great Food Truck Race. And, of course, Big Brother and Breaking Bad. Am I missing anything?

This is an open thread, all topics welcome, TV related or not.

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    Joy of joys in my lessons (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by jeffinalabama on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 09:19:21 PM EST
    for tomorrow. How to self-catherize. I guess I'm glad I've been too out of it this weekend to get a diary written.

    I thought I lost my mom's dog . . . (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by nycstray on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:51:21 PM EST
    scared the crap outta me!!! My heart may be okay tomorrow . . .  Had Abby here (for the first time) less than an hour and I thought she had done her famous beagle escape act. Yes, that was me running up and down the street barefoot (but thankfully still in street clothes!) frantically looking for a dog who was hiding behind the couch . . .

    both dogs are now working on some fresh bones while I have a drink and chill . . . . I think tomorrow we will spend some quality time down on the green at the marina, supposed to be a perfect day weather wise :)

    Definitely have experience with (none / 0) (#11)
    by MO Blue on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 11:25:57 PM EST
    famous beagle escape acts. My daughter and grandsons have a beagle. I was dog sitting one week when Hunter (the wonder dog) broke the leash after going crazy when a motorcycle drove by where we were walking. He proceeded to dash across one of the busiest streets in the neighborhood and disappear into a wooded area behind some houses.

    Here is this not so young and at the time definitely out of shape lady with her heart beating wildly chasing after this darn dog. At one point I dove trying to get what remained of his leash and of course banged up my bad knee. After more physical activity than was good for me and with visions of having to tell my grandkids that I lost their dog or that he had gotten hit by a car, I finally captured him and limped back to the house. I was a nervous wreck for several days and needless to say kept him on a short leash during his walks.

     

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    Abby has a history of escaping (none / 0) (#12)
    by nycstray on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 12:27:16 AM EST
    which was why my mom was nervous about leaving her here. No probs with Lola (the other pup). I swore it wouldn't be a prob, secure fence and all . . . and my biggest fear with shelter and my own dog was them getting loose and knowing the chase is sometimes (many times) futile. I called my mom after the fact, and she said, "oh, I should have mentioned she hides behind the couch . . ." OY. What made it worse was, Wed night when I came home, we drove by the cross street by my house and there was a hit-by-car kitty that looked like one of mine. Not all my cats responded to my call, so my friend and I had to take a walk and check out the poor kitty. That was one of the streets I was going to check after I got some shoes on . . .

    I must give my sweet gal Dot some credit here, she NEVER EVER bolted or did a wander when she found herself suddenly free of restrictions.

    The heart really races a bit more when you think you have to 'inform' a family member, ey? I'm still not 'calm' . . . :P

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    Oh, those pesky unions! (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jbindc on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:57:11 AM EST
    Some may not participate in the 2012 Democratic convention

    About a dozen trade unions plan to sit out the 2012 Democratic convention, because they're angry that it's being held in a right-to-work state and frustrated that Democrats haven't done enough to create jobs.

    The move could pose a larger problem for President Obama next year if an increasingly dispirited base of labor activists becomes so discouraged that it doesn't get the rank and file to the polls in the usual strong numbers.

    The unions - part of the AFL-CIO's building and construction trades unit - told party officials this week they are gravely disappointed that labor was not consulted before Democrats settled on Charlotte, N.C., where there are no unionized hotels.

    "We find it troubling that the party so closely associated with basic human rights would choose a state with the lowest unionization rate in the country due to regressive policies aimed at diluting the power of workers," Mark Ayers, president of the building trades unit, wrote in a letter to Democratic Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

    My favorite part (my bold):

    But the angst goes beyond the trade unions. The International Association of Machinists, which is not part of the building trades, said it has also decided to skip the convention after participating for decades.

    "This is the union that came up with the idea for Labor Day, and this convention starts on Labor Day in a right-to-work state," said spokesman Rick Sloan. "We see that as an affront to working men and women across this country."
    missed the food network star finale (none / 0) (#1)
    by desmoinesdem on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 09:12:24 PM EST
    I will try to catch it one day this week while exercising--they often show reruns during the day.

    I found out recently that an old friend wrote and directed a short narrative film about casualties of war and the impact of war on a combat veteran's marriage (trailer here). Hope it gets to a festival somewhere near my part of the world. We don't get enough independent cinema in Iowa.

    Tea Party Economics (none / 0) (#3)
    by Politalkix on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:14:29 PM EST
    "Living in debt is living in sin".
    link

    From the article
    "His Christian prayer rally at Houston's Reliant Stadium was a discrete appeal to politically important religious conservatives who want a government that reflects their values, not only on abortion and gay rights but also on spending and debt.
    Their moral universe includes not just social, but fiscal issues. Living in debt has become the new living in sin.
    There is a sense that there is a right and proper way in economics as well as personal behavior, and we've collectively as a nation strayed away from that," Green said. "And we need somebody who will have an absolute confidence that he or she can get us back."

    If Teapublicans win in 2012, I will not be surprised if the new Treasury Secretary is selected based on his/her knowledge of Biblical Economics.

    Hard to see how they (none / 0) (#7)
    by Slado on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:17:52 PM EST
    Could do much worse then three years of Obama

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    Well (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 06:05:16 AM EST
    you're obviously forgetting that they want a social jihad in this country. Having a miscarriage should be punished by the death penalty. These people are nuts who want a fundamentalist theocracy on the order of what they have in the middle east.

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    Oh please (none / 0) (#19)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 09:00:16 AM EST
    Quit making things up.

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    You (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 09:37:37 AM EST
    haven't been paying attention then. That's the kind of laws they have been writing here in GA. You apparently aren't even aware of what you've been voting for.
    link

    It's also being done in other states. Get a clue instead of accusing people of making stuff up.

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    This idea (cf. link) (none / 0) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 10:56:04 AM EST
    is insane, and that Marietta guy behind it needs medication.

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    Oh double please (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 01:20:13 PM EST
    This guy doesn't represent the Tea Party anymore than Code Pink and PETA represent the Democrats. All you are doing is demonizing a lot of people because you disagree with their politics.

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    Quit (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 01:25:43 PM EST
    writing the *$%^@^ legislation then. The fact that they are writing this junk means they actually want it to become law.

    When code pink starts writing legislation then get back to me.

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    Look, the guy is elected to the GA (none / 0) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 02:58:16 PM EST
    legislature . He is not on the national stage.

    And he is as nutty, or no more nutty, than these
    wack jobs.

    And when you stop looking for any excuse to demonize your political opponents, then you can get back to me.

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    any excuse.. (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 03:04:24 PM EST
    from Mr Swiftboat himself. Now thats funny.

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    jondee, I have been ignoring you (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 04:52:11 PM EST
    But from time it is necessary to point out some things.

    1. I honored Kerry's Vietnam service right here.

    2. I never "swift boated" him. My criticism was based solely on his actions after he returned from Vietnam.

    Now you know that.

    Please quit making things up. You embarrass yourself when I call you on them.

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    no, I'm afraid I don't know that (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 06:28:58 PM EST
    what I do know is that if you were caught in flagrante delicto with a goose, you'd say you were stuffing sofa cushions.

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    Prove it (none / 0) (#45)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:08:25 PM EST
    If you can't then we know what you are.

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    Once again (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 03:09:50 PM EST
    are those people writing legislation? You keep trying to change the subject but you are silly when you are comparing an elected Republican official to some people who may have made a tape and put it on you tube. For all I know, conservatives could have made that tape. To compare that to an elected representative is just being in denial of what the GOP is and what they stand for.

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    Uh, the video is from a Common Cause (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:01:10 PM EST
    meeting. In it we have calls for killing a SC justice.

    So please quit trying to act like it doesn't exist.

    I mean your "may have made" is just laughable. Try Google.

    If you want to excuse them because they aren't in the GA legislature, have at it.

    But my point remains. There are nut cases on both sides. Ignoring the ones on the Left while pointing out the ones on the Right accomplishes nothing beyond demonstrating why our government is effectively gridlocked.

    And trying to say that these people represent the "Tea Party" is no different than people on the right claiming the people in the video represent the Democratic Party.

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    Are common (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:15:46 PM EST
    cause elected officials writing legislation? No, they are not and trying to make it equivalent is just silly.

    If common cause wrote legislation that called for the lynching of Clarence Thomas then you would have equivalence but no matter how hard you try you can't compare an elected official who actually wrote legislation to some meeting you constantly want to talk about. Desperately trying to equate the two is silly. When those people win an elected office let me know.

    Let me say it really slow for you I am discussing an ELECTED and OFFICIAL MEMBER of the GOP not some fringe individual

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    The fact is that (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:50:49 PM EST
    the equivalence is in these people are fringe players.

    Recognize that and quit using them to attack your political opponents and we have no disagreement.

    And I think I posted two, maybe three or four comments describing my impressions of the "Tea Party." I realize that the fact that the actuality of them doesn't fit what you want, but that's just life.

    Like I said, McCarthy would be proud.

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    One (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 06:19:55 PM EST
    is an elected official. Can you understand the difference between someone who is actually elected and just someone in the general public. You could equate David Duke and those people but none of those people are elected officials. That would be an equivalence since neither of them are elected officials of any party. Franklin is an elected and official member of the GOP. There's a huge difference.

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    Of please with sugar on it (none / 0) (#46)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:11:11 PM EST
    A state legislature rep is this super powerful person speaking for all the Tea Party?

    Really?????

    Come on. Quit trying to demonize thousands of people by quoting something someone on the fringe is doing.

    Or else promise to never ever never mention Joe McCarthy again.

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    Look (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 06:56:26 AM EST
    tea party members have called this guy their "darling" now are you going to say that these tea party members are fringe operators too? Using your own standards, then there are a lot of tea party members who are fringe operators.

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    oh triple please.. (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 02:30:07 PM EST
    with a teabag on top..

    Bachman has said that she'd be in favor of only granting the right to vote to property owners, and abolishing the minimum wage. Do THOSE positions represent the Tea Party?

     

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    Do you actually believe that she (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 03:02:49 PM EST
    a) will be nominated?

    b) runs the Tea Party?

    I mean, puleeezzzzzzeee. You consider it acceptable strategy to demonize your political opponents. We both understand that. But don't think that you won't be called on it.

    BTW - Hint. No one runs the Tea Party.

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    not even the spirit (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 03:08:42 PM EST
    of Nathan Bedford Forrest?

    Obviously Bachman and the other assorted screw balls in the Tea Party are in danger of demonizing themselves every time they open their mouths in public. Which does have it's entertainment value, I must say.

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    There are screwballs in the Tea Party? (none / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 04:38:21 PM EST
    Wow! Stop the presses!

    Of course there are no screwballs in Code Pink, etc.... Wanting to lynch SC Justice Clarence Thomas, among other violent acts, is just my imagination....

    Wait.... There was that video.

    I just love technology.

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 03:13:32 PM EST
    all we have to go by is who the polls say the tea party supports as a candidate and it's Bachmann that the tea party rank and file is supporting according to the polls.

    You have said that you don't know who is going to get the nomination so how do you know who is NOT going to get it?

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    Please repeat after me (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 04:48:19 PM EST
    THERE AIN'T NO "TEA PARTY."

    So how can there a "poll?"

    Did the pollsters get a copy of ALL the membership rolls of the thousands of individual organizations and call them?

    I don't think so.

    And if you actually think she is going to get the nomination.... well, wow.

    Look. If you want to say she is a favorite of the Right Wing and that Paul is a favorite of the far Right Wing have at it.

    But quit the demonizing of thousands of people because some nut case in the state you live in flaps his jaws and some reporter somewhere decides he must represent the "Tea Party."

    I mean, isn't that what you claim McCarthy was doing??

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    They (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:00:35 PM EST
    poll by people asking people if they are members of the tea party. It's no different than any other poll.

    Bobby Franklin has been called a "tea party" darling by the member of the tea party here in GA.

    I didn't say that she was going to get the nomination. I said that she is beloved by the self professed tea party members according to the polls. I asked you since you said you DON'T KNOW who is going to get the nomination how do you know that she isn't? The only thing I know for sure who is NOT getting the GOP nomination is Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Tim Pawlenty. The polls tell you that they don't have enough support and they don't have enough money.

    Quit having the tea party call people like Franklin a "darling" then if you don't want him to be tied to them. The tea party here in GA never spoke out about this legislation and frankly was apparently in support of it. This is an elected official that has written crazy legislation but he is well respected by his GOP peers here in Ga. You simply cannot deny that. One of the leaders of the GOP called him the "conscience of the legislature" that hardly ranks with McCarthyism if it's your own people holding this guy in high esteem.

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    What Tea Party? (none / 0) (#36)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:07:31 PM EST
    Is there an actual GA state Tea Party??

    Or are there a bunch of organizations across the state with no actual "state wide" leaders?

    And who is "they?" I mean, what else does "they" poll for? Who owns "they?"  Who pays "they?"

    And since there is no state wide organization, who was supposed to speak out????

    And "apparently in favor???"

    Lemmee see....

    "The Committee will come to order."

    "Are you now or have ever been a member of the Tea Party?

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    No (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:19:52 PM EST
    there are leaders. Have you not seen the national leader of the tea party on TV? There is a state leader of the Tea Party here in Ga.
    link
    They even have their own website

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    That's meaningless (none / 0) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 05:53:28 PM EST
    There is no registered organization with the sole right to the name.

    Heck, I could start my very own Tea Party and claim that I speak for ALL members.

    And if I made my pronouncements silly enough the press, and you, would agree that I was The Man!

    ;-)

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    and to think.. (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 06:18:41 PM EST
    if only Bush hadn't left office with that radioactive 28% approval rating, they'd all still be calling themselves conservative Republicans.

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    Oh, (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 06:22:00 PM EST
    so now you're moving the goal posts once again as to what the Tea Party is. Here in Ga it's an official organization with leaders and everything. I guess you never thought the Christian Coalition was an official group either.

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    heh (none / 0) (#47)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:17:46 PM EST
    Nope. And you can quit your ducking. This is what I said:

    This guy doesn't represent the Tea Party anymore than Code Pink and PETA represent the Democrats. All you are doing is demonizing a lot of people because you disagree with their politics.

    I also pointed out time and again that the Tea Party is not a structured organization, state or national. Just a bunch of organizations with some of them wanting to become "leaders." Doesn't work well.

    I just formed the PPJAKAJIM Tea Party. So I now just as much right to speak as the GA Tea Party.

    Why is that hard for you to grasp? Is it because you think we must all belong to a central organization and you can't grasp a bunch of people  who do not believe that someone can speak for them??

    Maybe that's it. You aren't being nasty on purpose. It's a cultural thing.

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    Look (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 06:52:32 AM EST
    the Tea Party here in GA has official spokes people and so called leaders. You may not want to believe that but it is what it is. I'm not the one ducking. You are.

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    Look??? You said what you said (none / 0) (#50)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 10:32:32 AM EST
    you're obviously forgetting that they want a social jihad in this country. Having a miscarriage should be punished by the death penalty. These people are nuts who want a fundamentalist theocracy on the order of what they have in the middle east.

    That was in response to PoliticalKix's and Slado's
    comments which were about the Tea Party.

    Your example? A GA Rep that isn't even id'd as a Tea Party member in the article you linked to.

    Now, is there a group called the GA Tea Party? Yes. But it has no standing outside of itself. It speaks for itself just as the people demonstrating outside the Common Cause meeting were speaking for themselves.

    What you are doing is demonizing a political opponent.

    The Left has criticized McCarthy for years.

    Congratulations on joining him.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#51)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 16, 2011 at 12:11:43 PM EST
    but the GA tea party officially calls Franklin a "darling". The point I'm making is that if you don't want to be associated with jihadists don't praise them. The tea party did that all by themselves. I'm not trying to make a connection that's not there. There would be nothing to say about the tea party and Franklin if the tea party had kept their mouths shut right? Would you be saying the same thing if an elected Dem praised that video you love so much?

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    I am all HBO on Sunday (none / 0) (#4)
    by Slado on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:16:52 PM EST
    True Blood , Curb and Entourage.

    It's the best TV night of the week.

    Also Bonanza and (none / 0) (#18)
    by brodie on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 08:59:31 AM EST
    The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour.  Agree, Sunday nights make for quality teevee.

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    I thought for sure it would be Susie (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:16:58 PM EST
    Go figure.

    Shoot, that's probably a spoiler (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:17:16 PM EST
    SORRY!

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    That it was! (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by nycstray on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:44:39 PM EST
    but I'll forgive you ;) I'm a tad too distracted to really concentrate on the show tonight, plus I'm not overly invested, lol!~

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    Me, too...but I have a feeling she'll (none / 0) (#14)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 07:07:43 AM EST
    end up with something - others who have finished near the top have ended up with their own shows.

    My sense was that they felt there was a spot for Jeff that no one else is really filling - whereas, with Susie, there's already Mexican Made Easy, which is not significantly different from what Susie wanted to do.  I'd be willing to bet they will spend some time tweaking the concept and then find a spot for her.

    I actually enjoyed the reunion show - in the hour before the finale - more than I did the finale.  

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    Didn't watch that! (none / 0) (#15)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 07:28:59 AM EST
    Oh well.

    And yes, I think it's clear that she'll end up with something.

    And look at how many "winners" melted away in no time.

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    American idol (none / 0) (#10)
    by Lil on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:55:49 PM EST
    Got to see those 11 kids in concert tonight. They put on quite a show, if it comes to your neighborhood, it was worh it at 45 bucks a ticket. I would not normally byt tix but a friend had them and asked me to go, and I was surprised how good it was.

    Finally some good news (none / 0) (#16)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 07:52:35 AM EST
    .

    Gun crime drops!

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